I look for other flat chested women. A rant.
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Mumito...So happy for you
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Yahoooo Mumito.
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Happy Dance for Mumito - did they tell you what the "lumps along scar tissue" were? So frightening - happy you are over that one! Hope the rest of scans are "boring" too.
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Great news! Enjoy the rest of the holiday weekend.
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Sunflowers MA is right, Mumito -- you are soooo boring!
Let's all be that boring!
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We could make boring contagious.....
would still want to know what the docs said the 'little lumps along scar line" were, so if I ever find'em, I will have a first line of defense to think about! Let's ALL be Mumito. Boring
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I am bad after I read that no carcinoma was found I sort of blanked out and never read on.Next time I see my Dr I will ask for a copy pf the pathology and let you know sunflower.
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Yay for boring! Mumito, celebrate all weekend.
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LOL mumito - "hello, self"a voice in my head is saying
- I could have spoken the IDENTICAL words you wrote....still laughing WITH YOU - and celebrating that you didn't have to read many words. Boring is SO good. Celebrate.0 -
Mumito - you are SOOOO Boring!!! Congrats!!!!
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Maybe I should start a thread "If I knew then what I know now, I'd NEVER ( NEVAH!) had silicone implants." Had a BLM 6 years ago, let myself get talked into expanders, implants - honestly feel it was the choice most FINANCIALLY beneficial to the hospital where I had the surgery. If I had seen the surgeon & PS I see now, I don't think I would have had any reconstruction. When I told original surgeon I didn't want reconstruction, she said I really "should" talk to the PS she worked with before the surgery. THAT PS downgraded ANY ANY ANY inconvenience, problem, side effects - MY BAD. It was NEVER ( NEVAH!) suggested that I could have reconstruction later in the future if I wanted it then. Grrrrrrrrr...ok, live & learn. LOVE the PS I see now.
Had my small (poached eggs) removed in the PS office - she was great. One had "migrated" ( her words) closer to my underarm, the other one was stationary, but harder. The migrated one came out easily, the other one - yup, you guessed it, had ruptured. Took a while to get it out, and remove what scar tissue could be removed and many injections of sterile saline to "wash out" the pocket/capsule.
GOOD NEWS - I no longer feel like I'm living with a too tight rubber band across my chest, don't feel anything strange under the pec muscles when I move, breathe ( I'm fond of breathing)or do anything using my pec muscles.
6 years after implant - very happy Explantation. My chest feels like MY CHEST again.
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Yeah Sunflowers. Glad you are happy.
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I feel so lucky that when I told BS I didn't want recon, she took it at face value and never mentioned it again. So glad your chest feels like your chest again.
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Thanks - in hindsight I think the PS who put in the expanders, was saying the silicone implants were "easy" - and she was comparing it to the DIEP, or other forms of reconstrution.
I just hope more and MORE women are learning what a PROBLEM having implants placed under the pec muscles can be. Am sure the manufacturers of the implants are not talking "pain, discomfort" - the only SE's referred to are about the possiblity of capsular contraction, or rupture - and anyone would easily think "oh, that won't happen to me" - but the PROBLEM of how AWFUL they FEEEL is not discussed anywhere that I've found, except for women who have had them EXPLANTED - which I think should be as common a word as implanted.
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Sunflowers, am so glad you are breathing again!!!! I have a friend who had prophylactic BMX with reconstruction many years ago, she is a singer, and unfortunately was not told that she would lose lung volume or ability to expand her chest and lungs for singing. She has a beautiful voice, but am sure it would be so much better for her if she could take those full lungs of air and belt it out! I agree that explant should be included in any implant information, as well as pain & suffering that goes along with these MULTIPLE procedures. The PS that I saw at my BS request prior to surgery also made it seem very simple. Am so glad I was smart enough to check out a LOT of information prior to seeing him and found he could not answer all my questions to my satisfaction, so my choice was EASY! NO MORE PROCEDURES and their associated risks!
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Good going Sunflowers. I have talked to many bc ladies who were dx 10 or more years ago. Most of them said that going flat was never discussed as an option. Every single one of them wishes they had not had the recon surgery.
The uniboob ladies are finding it difficult as they age and one sags while the other salutes.
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pip, neither of mine ever saluted - while my real boobs, the ones which tried to kill me, were having a race to my waist, the left one was winnning, the foobs were migrating under my arms, and getting ruptured ( the one which hadn't migrated) - it is a FINANCIAL incentive to get women to have reconstruction, hospitals can CHARGE MORE MONEY, two surgeons ( on hospital staff) the surgeon and then the plastic surgeon who puts in the expander. AND the appointments to have fills, and the problems meaning MORE office visits.
No one will ever convince me the motive is anything but to MAKE MONEY during a terribly stressful time for a woman. I'm only talking about breast cancer surgery - any women who wants to supplement her own breasts with implants is another thing entirely.
Implants are made to look so "easy" - no trouble, "oh, capsular contraction is so rare." Right, and the sun rises in the West. Grrrrrrrr......
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Sunflowers, I am so pleased you have reached a really happy place with your own chest!
I have read so many stories of women who really didn't know there was another option to reconstruction, and have taken the same road as you have, years later.
I was one of the lucky ones who said "I don't want reconstruction, so I need a really straight fine scar!" My surgeon did just what I asked, and never tried to change my mind. His was the first face I saw when I woke after surgery. He said "I have done the straightest scar, I even checked it with a spirit level!" In my anaesthetic stupor, I said " Oh Wow really?!"He laughed and said "No!" He did say that the door would not be closed if I decided to change my mind later. I appreciated that!
My Mother had a radical Mx in '94 with no reconstruction, so I was very familiar with how it looked. She was a very sophisticated well groomed lady, her great sense of style, and wicked sense of humour about it definitely paved the way for me.
I wish you all the very best as Flat and Fabulous, or whatever size you fancy if you go the prosthesis route. It's all up to you now!
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Ariom - thanks. I just WISH women knew how uncomfortable ti can be to have an implant placed under the pec muscle saline or silicone. It is Never, to my knowledge, even mentioned. Only the SE's of cc, and need to probably replace implant after 6 to 10 years - but NOTHING, NADA, ZIP about how it will feel.
BTW - to those thinking pf explantation, I know have SENSATION on my chest - which I did NOT have with the implant. Sore right now, from the cutting and p-u-l-l-i-n-g out of the implant - but FEELING. Yeah. Not numb as it felt before...
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Hey beautiful women, I have again written an article about being flat, but this time it is from a body image/excercise perspective. I appreciated catching up. I am happy that SunflowerM... got your implants removed and are happy with your chest. I laughed out loud at your comment about Being Fond of Breathing.
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MT1 - also, shhhh, it's nice to feel my chest and be able to FEEEEEEEEEEEL it again, without the numb blobs being wrinkled by my pec muscle....I CAN FEEL ME - I FEEL like me again - it's not like touching a foreign substance - it's ME
no more NUMB blobs/foobs...
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Sunflowers, you rock.
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One of the first things that dawned on me after surgery was, 'My mind and my body are aligned in choosing not to reconstruct. This felt large at the time. It still does.
I love my chest and my scars, no doubt about it.
SunflowerMA, way to go. You have a great attitude.
I have experienced a few women who really do not like their results or being flat after going through breast cancer treatment. This feels sad to me. I see great beauty here. Yes, it can be difficult initially anyway (you can read my own travails within this thread), but my scars give me strength and remind me how very much I love myself. I am glad to accept myself just the way I am. I do sometimes miss my breasts, but it is MY breasts that I miss. We should all allow this period of mourning when it comes. But mostly, finally, thankfully, my body is all mine again without external worries, whoas or pressure. I feel solidarity to myself, my choices, my body and I love this. I don't know that I was as loyal or embracing of my body prior to experiencing the treatment for this aweful disease.
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MT... beautiful article, beautiful sentiment.
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MT - can't remember if this is the thread where I posted this, sugest you listen to Carly Simon's song, The Scar, I think was the title, it's on her Bedroom Tapes.
After I heard it, I was thinking of starting The Sisterhood of the Honorable Scar. Never did, but....
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MT, your sentiments echo mine. When I started this journey, I thought I was the only one feeling this way about not reconstructing. I am thankful that my surgeon did not give me a hard time about it. I gained strength from this thread knowning there are other ladies out there like me. Thank you for your elogent words.
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CCFW - cudda been worse - at least you didn't ask her if she was preggars
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CC, I did worse. About 20 years ago, while living in the UK I went to a conference together with a lady from another office. I had never met her before travelling to the conference with her, spent the weekend at the conference, all hunky dory until THE LAST MINUTE – yes I waited ‘til the parting moment for the foot-in-mouth to strike. I was saying goodbye to her at the end of the weekend as we parted ways on a London station platform, having travelled all the way back to London on the train together. “Good luck with the baby” I said, “What baby?” She said……
(This emoticon is meant to be the zip fastner I should have had for my big mouth
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I just found this board--are you flatties still around? Add me to your ranks--I LOVE being flat-told my surgeon she could prescribe prostheses only if she gave me at least 3 sizes for various moods.
I had my first massage yesterday and it was liberating to use no sheet above my waist and feel so free. Swimming is great--and they say archery will be even better (apparently the Amazons lopped off their breasts to be better with bow and arrow?)--I am in upstate NY and would travel to meet my boobless sisters....
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