Pinktober Revolution
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Sas, if we use BCO we could end up with the same problem we have now on this thread. Information getting lost in the pages, depending on how much is put there. I think it would be much easier to get what we are looking from Traveltext's suggestion. I find it fustrating to try and find past pages here and usually give up.
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Traveltext: excellent web name!! I love that all the pics, etc will be in the same place.
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Not a problem on my part, but there were two companion threads to this thread. As much as I encouraged folks to transfer things to save them it didn't work. I created a new storage area and only two have looked. So, that's three storage areas...................
Instead leaving BCO is seen as the only way to manage info. If there was no attempt to save info here, how will a new place fix that?
Love pinktobersucks. Have fun
Not meant perjoratively, tried to think of the most positive thought to encourage you in your endeavor
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I don't see a website as an alternative to any BCO thread on the topic.
Rather, it would be a collection of all the material to date, and more as it comes to hand. Its reach would be wider than BCO and contributors would be from everywhere, not just BCO members. A bit of a parallel pinktober universe with a life of its own.
Mainly though, to be a success, the new site would need a few dedicated people to moderate it. I can set it up, host it, etc, but I'd prefer not to have to run it. I own over 100 sites currently and I have enough work managing them!
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just jumping in here...
Jack,
That is a great piece that you wrote . Very powerful!!
Travel,
Love the domaine name.
Right now I'm just passed off sbout the new Breast cancer movie Miss You Already and I'm just sitting fuming about it. I want to say something... I know the director? And we've had business w/Drew Barrymores company. I know they mean well, and it's tough for a female director to get work. I know they'll be sending this one around in screeners to get award votes for best screenplay and I'm expecting it to arrive at my door any day.
I wanted to say something to the director , talked to my husband/ writing partner about it but haven't been able to articulate anything properly. I don't want to hurt her feelings as it's hard for a woman in our business and the one that's really responsible is the writer who's ira this was....,anyway just cranky and pissed off I think the writer is just being exploitative and arrrrrgh... Now seriously thinking we / husband and I need to write a screenplay about this ourselves. Anyway.., ignore the angry writer shredding paperin the corner
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Katy, I don't want to be upsetting, but I do think you got some of the information about Lands' End Pink Thread Program wrong. They are very specific about what the program donates and to whom:
From September to October 31, 2015, Lands' End is donating 75% of the fee for every Pink Thread monogram and embroidery application to the Breast Cancer Research Foundation® (BCRF), with a minimum total donation from Lands' End to BCRF of $50,000.
http://www.landsend.com/pinkthread/I don't know much about the Breast Cancer Research Foundation and if I would want to give them money, but Lands' End is very specific about how much they donate. In addition, they mention a minimum amount, not a maximum amount.
I realize that a commercial company won't donate money to a cause without using the donation for publicity. The real problem I see is that Lands' End program doesn't make me want to buy anything; it does nothing to enhance their brand in my mind. In fact, it irritates me on general, pink washing principles. And that is the problem. I would be so happy if I never saw another advertisement relating to breast cancer, if the only place I read about breast cancer is news releases regarding new research findings and in medical journals.0 -
I'll have to look at their website again. I thought it said Max donation. Anyway all other points you raised I understood correctly and I still don't like it. And I have an axe to grind with bcrf because they are in bed with big cosmetics. But thanks for the heads up.
Also very annoying is that all of their national4 color ads cost way more than they are donating. I see this as wasting money to toot their own horn.
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Sula, bummer, haven't heard about this film. Guess, I'm under a rock as usual about film. Yet, I have about 300 in the closet alphabetically arranged. Just to cheap to go to the movies. Drat you can't be honest. Sucks. Problem with your rendition is it would be to frightening.
Travel I get what you are saying about time. Essentially I moderate all my threads and then contribute to other threads. Hours a day. But it's my enjoyment and I'm retired. Suggest you check with the MODS about coping stuff from the threads. There is a TOS about it.
Lisa-e, I did a thing about BCRF on the charity thread. The link is in the topic box. It's about three years old.
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Katy, anything that is in bed with cosmetic companies is suspect in my mind, on general principals.
sas-scatzi, I'll go find the charity thread and satisfy my curiosity. Thanks!
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What's a TOS?
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Tomboy Terms of Service
Lisa-e it's in the above topic box, but I'll bring it down here. A Look at Charitable & Non-Charitable Organizations
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A new site would pretty soon build a database of both new and old material. Nearly everything here was posted elsewhere and can be reposted on to the new site without TOS Issues.
The advantage of a stand-alone site is that we could reach millions rather than thousands. So much of the great material here is fading into the back pages without indexing or categorisation. So many good articles and images will be hard to find as time goes by.
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Thank you Traveltext for your work on this. I like the idea of a separate, more open place to collect and store all the information. Would it be possible to organize it into sections of photos, essays, etc?
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Travel, your words of "almost everything here has been posted elsewhere". Not sure how you came to that conclusion. This is your first year on this thread. I find it concerning that you would presume that you can repost "everything". Besides an abridgement of TOS, I think getting permission from the poster is appropriate. Generally, I don't believe that Mods would enforce their TOS in this regard. But I'm in my little pond of BCO, no clue what they would think of your proposal.
If I repost something someone else has written from one thread to another thread within BCO, I get permission from the OP. Anyone wishing to repost their original material is not my call here or anywhere. Just as no one has a right to say how I repost my original material or posts. Except for the Mods.
Starting pinktobersucks.com is going to be exciting for those involved.
rwiley, making companion threads to any thread on BCO is possible. I've done it a few times. The most successful was the prayer and intentions thread to the Catholic thread as pretty limited to only prayers and intentions. All that has to be done is a list of what folks want. Then a round robin linking in the topic boxes. Also, did it with Warm and Fuzzies in a similar way with links to other threads that have a common theme of uplifting the members hearts and minds. I will link to both so you can see how it's done.
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/38/topics/760274?page=5#post_3268415 Archives for prayers
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/102/topics/818346?page=590#idx_17690 Warm & Fuzzies
Another example of how to set up connections of similar subjects is what Fallleaves, 123JustMe, and I did with our topics on Blocks, Nsaids and Toradol. I'll link to my Toradol thread and you can see where it shows linkage between the three. Anyone researching the subjects can travel between the three threads.
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/73/topics/833612?page=18#post_4548265
If folks feel that they wish to be involved elsewhere, let it be b/c they believe it meets their focus of interest, not b/c of lack of understanding of how to make BCO fit their need.
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I have seen many of these "pictures" posted on Facebook forums. Since everything on Facebook is shareable,, seems like it would be fine to post in another site. After all, we have shared them over here. We are just collecting them in one place. And if we have permission of jackbirdie and Divine and others who have written to post their essays and letters over there, I think we will be ok.
One category could be "photos" or "posters" of memes, etc,,, another category could be essays or letters. Makes it easy to locate what you are looking for.
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you all have my permission to use, abuse, modify, steal or share anything I've written. It is not necessary (in fact, imo, not desirable) to share where the writing originated from in my case. I was inspired by others, certain turns of phrase stuck in my head, and I would be delighted for anyone who wants to, touse my work as a template.
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Sas. I meant most of the images. As to text, that's up to the writers if they want their material posted. Lots of other sites are also happy for material to be used wherever it is appropriate. That's what the internet is all about, basically. Any BCO material would, of course, stay in place and be built upon from year to year.
rwiley. Yes, the site would be categorised under the many appropriate topics. There could be menu items for pink-washed products, stories, images, etc, etc even some humor (you gotta have a laugh sometimes at all the pink stuff out there).
Any new site would be a complementary effort that takes our messages out there and is easy for other sites to link to and for the media to mine for stories.
PS. Ditched my chemo look pic. Who wants to look at that!!
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Nice new piccie, traveltext!!
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Thanks glennie, actually yours is pretty good too. If I'm to get a new website together, I want people here to get the impression that I look like I can finish the job.
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WOW great pic
Right, on the pics posted here. Warm & Fuzzies wouldn't exist either without free pics. Thanks for clarifying.0 -
Traveltext, thanks for taking on the idea of a library/collection of stuff. I just thought wouldn't it be great to find the right pic or words to share this important message. Nice new pic.
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sas. One more point. This thread is a fellowship of like-minded people and will continue forever. A website is more informational and this new one would be like a virtual library of stuff that anyone can go to for the latest on Pinktober and all its associated ridiculous happenings.
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Love the new pic, Travel, and have to admit I lol'd at the finishing the job comment
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PS- I am all for the site and would like to help. I want to make sure I don't take on too much, and don't have any official experience moderating, but if you think it's something that with a small group of people the hours wouldn't be overwhelming, I'd be interested. I am retired, but have activities and wouldn't want to get swallowed up if you know what I mean
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Sounds good, should easily fly. The dislike of pinktober is mounting each year. Let us know what's up and what you need?
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Katy, problem with moderating is you have to be somewhat ____________hmmmm careful about what and how you say things. That can take the fun out of a rant.
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I think we'll easily get a small group of moderators from this thread. The first step is to draw up a plan for the site, get input from this group, then build the site. I'll report back on this in a few weeks.
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Lisa-e, just had a thought. The link goes to the last page. BCRF is on page 1.
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This hasn't been done before I don't think. Slogan.
We are the face
We are the voice
We are the dead
BC and MBC KIlls
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Lisa-e this is the link to page one of the charity thread
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/110/topics/794711?page=1
this is the evaluation I did a while back
Breast Cancer Research Foundation
60 East 56th Street
8th Floor
New York, NY 10022
tel: (866) 346-3228
fax: (646) 497-0890
EIN: 13-3727250web home page www.bcrfcure.org/index.html
Founder and Chairman, Evelyn Lauder. (deceased 2011) Established in 1993. Charity Navigator 4 star rating 10 out of last 11 years. 2011 it was given a 3 star rating. Four star rating is Charity Navigators highest rating.
Question1---91% to programs-37,682,559Program expenses+ fundraising expenses 4%(2.6%CN)+2,431,086=40,11,3645, 4% to Administrative costs- 1,072,699 4%(%,6% CN)
Question 2. who gets the money?. This link goes to the page that identifies the researchers by name. You can read a lay persons synopsis of what they are researching. 190(197) researchers were funded in 10/2011 for a total of 40(41+) million, for the fiscal year of 2012-13.
http://www.bcrfcure.org/action_grantees.html
Cure and prevention: how the categories for funding are broken up. As I read it, their application for funding would have to fall into one of these five categories.
http://www.bcrfcure.org/action_topics_cure.html
Impact of research: What they have found
http://www.bcrfcure.org/about_impact.html
Question 4. Could not determine if BCRF is independent of Estee Lauder Company. Evelyn Lauder Was the founder in 1993. She was Chairman of the Board of BCRF until her death in 2011. A Lauder still sits as chairman. I could not find an organizational chart. It says at the BCRF web site and the Estee Lauder web site that they are Partners. Partner between corporate sponsers and charitable foundations is a common representation. With the bigger entities, they accomplish Partnering by contract. It would seem that the companies would be separate to allow for a corporate shield. I could not find this infomation. Anyone reading this that has located the information, please Pm and I will edit. This is important information because Estee Lauder Company will not deny or admit that they are doing animal testing and chemicals that are considered oncogenic(cancer causing) are being used in their products. There are web sites that can be googled by key words Estee Lauder and animal testing/oncogenic chemicals. Since I can't verify that the organizations are separate, it is up to the reader to do their own research and conclusion regarding concerns elicited by question 4. If they are separate entities, then BCRF should not be held accountable for the actions of another corporation.
Evelyn Lauder had ovarian cancer and died of complications of ovarian cancer. She had a vested interest in what she was doing. So, however question 4, causes someone to respond is up to their own belief system. BCRF has funded many amazing breakthroughs for BC. A rush to judge anything should take this into consideration---If BCRF hadn't funded the research that it has funded where would we be?
501c3 status- listed on charity navigator
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