new and future flat sister, with questions
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Zills, I do that to myself too. I get all worked up beforehand and after it turns out things weren't as bad as I made them in my mind. Nowadays I try to tell myself, this (whatever it is) will be over in x time and I'll be doing (whatever) afterwards with the bad behind me. Basically I look right past the "bad" thing on to the good after.
I took Xanax and Ativan both at different times after my husband died, my memory is the same the Xanax was calming and the Ativan made me sleepy.
Idesim, thanks for the link! I'll check it out. Not sure my back will take it, but I'll look at it.
Thanks too about mom and DH. I think because of my mom I always had in the back of my mind that bc was coming my way too. Maybe that is why I am more calm about it.
Still no word on if my ins will cover the BRACA test I had submitted, but it is too soon I suppose. I was hoping results would be in when I saw the BS.
Oh well, I suppose I will know way more than I want to know about what she (BS) is going to do to me after tomorrow. It is going to be a frackin' hot drive up to the hospital with the broken airconditioner in my car!
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I know how to knit, but I'm chicken to try the 4 needle thing you have to do to make sox. I found smart wool sox 2 years ago and I can wear them - usually can't wear wool at all. They are warm and washable and I love them. Plus they come in wild colors and stripes.
Last year DD gave me boots lined with fake fur - to wear for house shoes. My study is over the garage which is totally unheated and I just freeze.
I only had a umx, but the snb was the part that was painful. The mx was only a little uncomfortable. Hardest part was not being able to sleep on that side.
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I read some other threads that said some of them didn't really get much numbing during the SNB and that it was really painful. Is there something I should ask for, some med that will numb it better or is this one of those things that vary person by person. With the diabetes I have come to know that each and every one of us react very differently to meds and the drs don't always know as much as we that are walking the walk know. Any input here before my appointment this afternoon would be appreciated.
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I can't tell you how difficult is has been to get back on. I have just sat here watching the little twirly thing go round and round. I don't do patience well, so the foot tapping and the pen tapping were getting a bit aggressive as I waited. I finally had to get up and go out to do something. When I got back the page was here.
ldesim, hope your stomach has improved a bit since you posted. F those appointments taking so long. How hard would it really be to streamline it so you aren't waiting, and you're in and out in just over an hour?
The childcare costs are the same here. I was very lucky that I had my parents close to me. I used to have to fight them for Bec though! They loved her so much and had a replica kid place at their place, highchair, cot, pram, everything. My dad even built her a playroom that was better than home. They lived between our house and her school, so picking her up was something they always wanted to do. I was so very lucky, I never had to deal with childcare.
Let's think of a side business we could all do to make some "Mad Money!" and meet up in Hawaii or somewhere!
Thank you ldesim for the "age" comments. I am afraid over here we get presented with a Seniors card, the day we turn 60. I am not complaining, it's a discount card! Yay...silver lining..LOL
Now Zills, what can we do to make this a little easier for you? Is there anything?
I think about you so often when I know you have these appointments coming up. Knowing you're in a state about it makes me so mad, just as Bobo defends us I want to make it better for you! F these treatments, but just remember those Packman Munchers.
Can you get Ativan, to have, when you feel this way? Just as grammaB says she's not "Holding", maybe you should be, for these days..couldn't hurt? maybe? I am sending you the biggest smooshy, gentle hugs, and I am there if you need me, just put me on the other side of the bag so Bobo doesn't spill beer on the Marika ensemble!
grammaB you are so well prepared for this. We aren't joking when we say the surgery is so doable. you'll be surprised. As Zills says the drains are hot and annoying but they are gone, fast, and you won't believe how free you feel without them. I found two "grabbers" in Colin's wardrobe. I didn't even remember they were there. Some physio or OT must have given them to him, The only thing i ever remember him grabbing with them was me!
You have C5/6 fused, that's where Colin's injury is, C5/6 quad. I had a chiropractor who put me in hospital for a week after a treatment with a bulging disc that touched a nerve at C5. They wanted to do a laminectomy through the front of my neck, but I declined.
Bobo, I had no idea how much the camps cost you. I had a look at the school, we have one here in the Adelaide Hills. It looks just beautiful, and serene.
I am very demanding when it comes to the chemicals in the house. all our paintwork was water based and VOC free, but would you believe, the Cedar windows had been coated in oil base before, so wouldn't accept the water based alternative. I had to put up with the smell of the oil one, but fortunately I wasn't too badly affected, just a bit headachy. It doesn't bother Colin in the least.
More bracelets, and Bobo found coupons. You're amazing Bobo!
Director of painting, I like the sound of that. You must not feel the need to get into this too, you are wearing me out with everything else you're doing. Just imagine a beautiful freshly painted house to go into. That's just lovely!
That soup sounds fantastic! I ran the Vitamix by Colin again, doing a fair job of talking it up, with hand model gestures, and everything. I explained about it heating the soup as it makes it, but his response was WOW $800.00, that's a he11 of a lot of f'ing soup before it pays for itself! Maybe another time! LOL
ndgirl, glad to see you! I love that you can't cast on or off, that would be one very long scarf if someone got you started!
I totally agree about buying the designer jeans too! The bracelets are Alex and Ani the 7 swords is our group bracelet. Listen to me, I still don't have mine, but I will!
I got lots of lovely pictures of Colin on the boat this morning. Dexter was hysterical to watch. There were Pelicans, and Black swans. He is more than terrified of the Swans. I was trying to get shots of Colin being lowered into his purpose built Captains seat, bearing in mind, I am standing on a floating pontoon with Dex on a lead. I am holding Colin's backpack and my bag while trying to take photos with a camera that I can't even see what's on the screen.
I can feel tugging and scuffling going on but can't look away from the task at hand. Suddenly the lead went slack and I discover Houdini, I mean Dexter, has escaped from the harness and lead like Houdini getting out of a staightjacket, and is behind my legs peeking out at the swans. He is like a frightened toddler. When I was leaving, I had to carry him all the way to the car because the swans were honking at him. His little heart was beating so fast. He's so, not brave, our Dex.
I had no idea you were so tall Bobo, Bec is about 5'10' and I am just a bit over 5'7'.
I have very fine hair too, but a lot of it. I discovered a product called "Dirt" by Jonathon (Anton) it is great for giving lift and you can piece out the hair with it. He says it gives that second day after washing feel. I don't know about that, I have never gone a day without washing my hair. Works for me.
I am wondering where our Gramwe is, and how everything is going. I seem to remember there was a post on the previous page, but I can't get there to read it without loosing all of this. Posting now and then reading....M x
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grammaB. I was kinda hoping you might not see those SNB reports. I had a run in with a couple of other members when I first joined this site.
There was a SNB thread where newbies were asking about the procedure, and some members were getting on there and really going for it in a big way, describing it as the worst thing ever, and that everyone should be aware of how truly awful it is. Yada Yada. I was actually more terrified of the SNB than the Mx, because of all this.
Well I tell you, hand on heart, it was probably the LEAST painful procedure I have ever had, and that includes simply taking blood. I had askeed my surgeon for numbing before, and he was flummoxed. He said that he had never heard of it being so painful, but I was adamant. He said I could have whatever I wanted. On the day, I went to the imaging department, met the lovely youg an who was going to do the procedure. Unfortunately, when I said I was having a local, he said he wasn't allowed to give it. He rang my surgeon at home, and would you believe the surgeon said to hold off and he would come to the Hospital to do it for me. There was no way I was going to alow him to come in early just for that. I said go ahead, and do it with out a local, it's fine. Th operator said he would talk me thorugh it . and that I could call him anything I wanted to. He said he was so in awe of the ladies he saw the morning of their surgery. He would do whatever he could to make this awful day a little easier, that I had a sensational surgeon, and he hoped all would go well.
He said that he would tell me what was happening, the swab would be cold, now the needle, I will do it slowly, now another needle, and another, not long now. I looked up at him when he said OK that's it Moira. I said, "When does it hurt?" he said "It's all over, just the scan now!" I had to do a lot of massage to get the tracer to go to the node, three goes I think, at the scan. Then he called out Yay, Moira We've got it!" and he showed me the node standing out like a beacon on the scan. He ran me up to surgery pre op telling me that he often saw the women he'd done the procedure on arriving at the pharmacy the next day, and going home.
I was in the surgery in about half an hour later. My surgeon came out and asked me why I'd had an "attack of the braves" that morning. I told him I was embarrassed about getting him to come in to do a local for me, and that I really hadn't needed it, that he was right about the procedure not hurting.
I honestly felt like I was bullet proof at that point. The surgery didn't frighten me one bit, and after such a great positive experience with that gorgeous young man. I felt amazing.
Why does this procedure go so badly for some and not others? I have no clue. My feeling is that if you had a positive experience, that's great, pass it on, but if you had a bad one. It does no good to frighten others who are about to walk that path. Just don't go on and on about it. I took great delight in making sure that everyone who tried to scare me with those dreadful stories was well aware that my experience was nothing like theirs. Some on the thread didn't like it!
The final thing I did before leaving the Hospital next morning, was to call and speak to that young man who had made my experience such a positive one. I told him that I was one of those ladies that got out the next morning and was doing fine. He was genuinely happy for me!
I wish you an experience just like mine! M x
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After all that grammaB I meant to say that a lot seem to use a numbing cream before the procedure. Some say that having a local prior to the tracer makes the tracer less effective. I really don't know. The young man who did mine said that they never use anything to numb at that facility.
I wish I could help you more.
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Thinking of Z! Z, you are at your appointment. Will try not to spill beer. Hope you are 'holding' in a big way. And B, you've got pre-op. Try not to be scared. They're going to tell you everything you need to know.
Have not had SNB, but our Ariom seems to have done an excellent job covering all bases. And, certainly, all bases need to be covered. I am glad you're having BMX instead of UMX. I feel like that will avoid additional surgery, which is always a good thing in my opinion.
So, Z and B, we are all with you today! Love the story about my sweet Dex. Where is Granwe? And why not just get a US Vitamix and have it shipped? They are half the price..
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...and I just wanted to state for the record that I just purchased two EF tops: one was 29 dollars, one was 39, and I had a 25 dollar coupon. That is how I usually roll with EF!
Have real job now -- have to go into the office five days a week! No more of this swanning in and out once or twice weekly. Haven't had real job in eight years. So I need to suit up. XXX
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Yea for such a great deal.
Purse is crowded with notes, a snack, and some supplement I need to get vetted. I don't take anything without authorization.
Did manage to sleep from 10-4 and took another X so I could make it to the Ativan. Another big fight with DH this morning. Can't say either one of else feels better.
I hate waiting. They have a big meeting and apparently it's running over. Still need my blood drawn before the appt so I guess I will be waiting more. Waiting sucks. Sorry girls.0 -
Rant on, Z! DH must stop fighting with you immediately. You are officially right about everything. Tell him I said so.
So sorry about the wait. Know you are completely flummoxed. We're all here for you!
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Z, tell DH its 3 against one, because I am with Bobogirl on your side.. whatever the issue is... you are right and he is wrong and that's that! He is not allowed to raise his voice, disagree or even look crossly at you during your treatment period! That does not mean the actual dates of treatment.. that means ALL the days in between until treatment is over! As Joe says to me, "It's going to be a long 5 years, isn't it!"
XOXOXOXO We are here for you!
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This is an excellent and very clear rule, Z. If he has any trouble with it please let me know. I will call and have a word with him myself. Wait. I'll have our Ariom do it. She will charm the pants off him, and then he will give her a jar of olives.
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Still waiting on labs now. CAT scan scheduled day before my next treatment. Therapist stopped by to visit. Feeling better. Ready for Ativan and lunch!
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Glad you're feeling better.. what's for lunch??
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Yeah Z, what's for lunch?
My lunch... watermelon. Washing and ironing curtains for the move. Teaching in under an hour, in my office, with the kids in the room!! Yikes.
Z, can you order me a beer when your lunch comes?
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Ariom, I agree with you about the tracer. It was uncomfortable, but not nearly as bad as some attempts to find a vein on me. The numbing stuff would be in a needle also, so why get an extra stick.
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Finally! Eating qudoba's rice and beans. Hope all you aren't too cold or the music too loud. Will cover Bobo's bad behavior. You all were in there quite awhile. Sorry but glad you came. Hope GrammaB is having a better time. Nap time now girls.
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Love Qdoba! And I like it cold. I am the Queen of hot flashes.
Love you Z!
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Just jumping on really quickly before I leave for appointment. Thanks so much Moira for the explanation of the SNB. Yes, I was reading that thread and frankly was a bit apprehensive about it.
Z I was there with you for a while but had to fly off to get ready for my appointment. I'm with the others, tell that DH of yours you are officially always right!
Good for you bobo, there were a couple tops in the sale section on EF that I really liked! May revist them later today.
Gotta run, have a great day all!!
Hugs!
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We're with you B! Whew, my arms are going to be tired tonight...
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I'll be drooling on somebody's shoulder probably with cilantro stuck to my teeth but you'll do fine GrammaB. Do we get frequent flier miles with all these appts? Or at least get out of one appt free?
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I love it Zills... a "get out of an appointment free" card!
I've always wanted to visit Montana.. just never thought I'd do it with two drooling ladies by myside.. I think bobogirl is still wasted from her D&D yesterday.
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Just FYI I am not ignoring other posts.. I haven't even read them yet.. just wanted to stick my head in and give support to Zills & GrammaB
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Me too! Sticking my head in occasionally during my work day...
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Good grief. Who was handing out the speed and espressos! I'll have to take 2 hours off my sleep to catch the he11 up.
Yesterday, months of stress caused a major melt down. DD was at the ob/gun in a panic, they could not find the babies heart beat. He was giving her the sad eyes, patting her hand, she refused to listen to what he was trying to tell her. She told him, what he should have KNOWN, that her little uterus is extremely tilted, she insisted on an ultra sound where they found that tiny little bean with its little heart beating just fine. She and I said a big F it to doctors, hospitals, therapist, to this life in general. We both grabbed a bag threw some clothes in, and walked out the door. Drove like Steve McQueen through winding mountain roads with no idea where we were heading. We laughed, we cried, she barfed, we talked nonstop, and finally found a nice little cheap motel surrounded by mountains, with a pool. We submerged ourselves in the cold water, me in shorts and a tee shirt. When the clouds became black and the thunder rumbled we made our way to our room, where I consummed a bottle of wine, while she ate cupcakes and milk. We watched movies til the weee hours, cursed cancer, weasels, debt, fear, and embraced life. 24 hours have never been more precious nor more invigorating. I may make it after all.
When we were almost home she asked me to thank each of you, for loving her mom, and for being here for me. I thank you too. Hugs0 -
Good lord. THat's just terrible about that idiot OB. Get rid of him. Your stressful meltdown turned into the best story ever! You are just like Thelma and Louise!
Excellent job. You are the one who turned that day around, Granwe! I admire you. Your knitted knocks are on the way...
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Oh my! what a maze for you and DD to weave thru! How dare they scare you all like that! I agree Bobo.. Get rid of him. What a way to turn a bad situation around tho.. I learned another lesson from you today.. turn the bad around and make some good.. love your story, you and your daughter had a real mom/daughter experience that neither of you will ever forget, love stories that make good memories! I am with you on cursing cancer myself, having a bad day, seems at least 1 day every week I just cant wake up, have a horrendous headache, cant sleep, yuck! wondering if it is the arimidex se or what the hell is going on, or maybe I play myself out, anyway I will recover and it is nothing compared to what alot of others on this board are going thru. But Gramwe.. I really believe the knitted knockers will be just the ticket for you!! looking forward to them!! Bobo is the best isnt she? she can kick butt when we all need her to help us do the same! All you gals here are the best!
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Awwe Granwe you are the best mom ever. It's exactly what you both needed. I hope in the future you take more unplanned get always. I can only imagine how scared and heartsick and then furious (probably) not a strong enough word for how you were feeling. If you can't change doctors, I bet you educated that one and hopefully he will never, ever repeat that mistake. You go girl! Be glad we weren't in your pockets or he would have had a bigger can of whup @ss besides the fermera fury. That would be a good name for a race horse!
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Z is right -- good thing we were not at your DD's appointment...
How are you feeling, Z? Home? Cozy? In the castle of pillows?
ND, you are so sweet to me. Sending you hugs! {{{nd}}}
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My goodness girls what a day you've all had!
Thankfully I was able to get onto the site easily this morning, it has been so slow.
My darling Zills, I was very upset to see you'd been fighting with DH on this day, when you don't need any stress. Are you able to just shrug it off, or do you need the gang to intervene? We could be a formidabe group! I agree with everyone else, you're right, he's wrong, and that's the end of the story right now! It looks to me like no one won this one, and you both just may have needed to let off some steam...maybe.....F all this treatment and worry for you, Zills. You know we are all here for you!
Reading further down, I see you had some sleep, some drugs and some food, and feeling better. I cou;ldn't be happier! I must have slept through that appointment, so Bobo must have behaved in the bag.
A get out of appointment free card!...I love that! You can drool on me anytime, Zills! Ahh cilantro, that's very good for you, we call it coriander, and it is one of my absolute favorites from my little patch of herbs. Super high in Vit A and C and Potassium plus trace elements!
Bobo, what a team we could be "Good Cop bad Cop!"
I am just hanging out for the move to be over for you, not too long to go now. You won't know yourself my lovely!
Bobo, you are such a bad influence, telling me there is a sale area of EF, now I have to go there. I have thought about the Vitamix from the US, but our electrical current is different, we hav 240v, so I would have to use an adapter every time I used it.
Wren, I am so with you on the extra needle, and I would have thought the numbing cream may only numb the skin, so is that really of any benefit. Whatever the result of that tracer for grammaB, it's really quick, it is the scan that takes the time.
ldesim! been thinking about you too! You've been so busy, and without aircon for a time. Are you traveling OK? You've not mentioned how you're getting on.
grammaB, so glad the SNB report may help you relax a little, as I said above, it's quick, so don't waste time stressing about it. We will all be with you to squeeze your hand if you need it. I believe you'll do just fine. Stop running, we'll all be sick in the bag!!!!
Gramwe, thank you, I thought they had all been on speed yesterday, didn't think of espresso, but you're so right! I just couldn't keep up with it all.
I have been concerned that we hadn't seen you. I am in awe of your divine experience with your Daughter, what a truly excellent thing to do together!
F that OBGyn, how rediculous to frighten her that way. I am so thrilled the baby is well and so are both of you! You're a wonderful Mother, and your DD will in turn be a wonderful Mother. I agree with you F all this shitful stuff, disease and incompetent Medicos. All power to our little group here. What a wonderful circle of love we are generating. Thank you gramwe, for being here for all of us too, and tell you're daughter we're here for her too! A new baby for the group, I can't wait! Hugs to you Gramwe! Is the OG OK?
ndgirl, I am so sorry to hear of your headache and recurring lousy day every week. That's just awful. F these SE's from the drugs. Is there nothing you can do to prepare for it? Do you know when it is coming? Hugs to you too!
Well I think I am caught up now...can do the Rites this morning and go opp shopping, will be thinking of you all...take care...big hugs....M x
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There you go again!
Just as I get up another couple of posts are there!
Hey Zills, how you doing? hiya Bobo, big, long day for you today today?
Hugs..M x
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