I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363
    edited 7:50PM

    Rolling Stone rips into Donald Trump and his victory:

    “Donald Trump- the twice impeached former president, Jan. 6 coup leader, convicted felon, adjudicated sexual abuser, and man who mismanaged the 2020 economic implosion and coronavirus disaster that killed more than 1 million people in this country, has convinced American voters to give him another term in the White House

    After a campaign marked by nativism, open bigotry, and aspiring authoritarianism, Trump triumphed over Vice President Kamala Harris, despite being denounced by several of those who worked most closely with him in his first term as a ‘fascist’. The 45th president will become the 47th in late January.

    Trump’s win demonstrates that the most powerful people in the country are indeed above the law. An elderly, foul-mouthed, racist game-show host can try, in broad daylight, while the TV cameras are fixed on him, to execute a coup d’état in our nation’s capital, people can die from it, and in a few shorts years be rewarded with the full-throated support of his political party, and now the keys to the White House.

    No matter what policies Trump does or doesn’t manage to shove through when he takes office in January, there is no doubt that he and his new Justice Department are going to shut down the federal cases against him. He will get away with it all, and his enemies will have to choke on that for the rest of their careers and lives.

    And that will just be the beginning.”

    and it is all coming back to money — the root of all evil.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363
    edited 7:53PM

    You voted for it. Enjoy. We tried to warn you. Disgraceful conservative "leader" Matt Walsh said: “Now that the election is over I think we can finally say that yeah actually Project 2025 is the agenda. Lol” Steve Bannon replied, "Put that everywhere."

    Right-wing podcast Benny Johnson also gloated about the project. “It is my honor to inform you all that Project 2025 was real the whole time,” he wrote.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    Will we ever???? Two of the smartest women ever and the male ego just couldn't even consider the best person because they were too busy with their male superiority.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    All right — now you know that it is already starting and those who may feel regrets may actually feel them sooner than even I thought.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    It is something along the lines of what I've considered about our 47th. time to have a president (not that I've ever used the word for FG). That all the things he and in this case the Reps. (2025) have planned may find it a little more difficult. Perhaps, along with some of the Democrats, FG's voters who end up on the pain list early on may offer some odd resistances of some kind. I know there are impediments — they may not stop things in the end, but they could make things a heck of a lot more cumbersome to do and even a few may have to go by the wayside.

    Tariff information has always been available. I'm a little amazed that this will be the second time around for tariffs and apparently there are a whole lot of people who were not in the least curious about them. Welcome to your sad life people.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    I'm not so sure about a massive backlash — there never has been, but I do think way too many did not extrapolate what a lot of things would mean to them on a deeply personal level and so I do think they may find that they made a costly mistake. Tariffs, friends or family who could be deported, savings destroyed. Jobs lost — we'll see.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    Not giving up Barbara — just briefly pausing to collect myself.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    We have to find a way to break this cycle — sadly a lot of women let us down this time. Someday it will come.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    I talked to my BIL a bit ago. He asked if we were going to the Church for the Thurs. meal. They provide meals (doing the Christiam duty) twice a week. I think it's a good thing. Haven't gone for a bit since we have the puppy who isn't used to being left.

    Any rate, he was so cheerful and I thought yes — your Reps. came through big time and you are cheerful now, but you are always griping about what things cost and looking for ways to cut back, even buying cut-rate Ins. And I may be crying now, but you will just start long after I have ceased — so enjoy that cheerfulness to the nth. degree because when the 'worm' turns, it will all be gone for you.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    Not totally true for me, but more to the point I lost faith a long time ago when my family caught the church deacon slipping out of the back tavern door with his liquor for the week. Wasn't so much that he did it — there were plenty of drinkers back then — but he pretended he wasn't one of them.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    Trump will begin operations to deport millions of undocumented immigrants when he starts his term, campaign press secretary Karoline Leavitt. The goal set by the Trump campaign is to detain and remove 13 to 25 million people, they plan to indefinitely detain them across various camps.

    The operation is being called "the largest deportation in history" and it is estimated that it will cost around 88 billion tax dollars to complete. The current US prison population is only 1.8 million. It is estimated that they could remove 1 million people per year. Experts estimate families may be rounded up together, including individuals who are not illegal, including green card holders or citizens born to illegal migrants. Future Trump proposals also include backtracking on green cards that have already been granted and exploring legislation to remove the citizenship of those born to parents not born in the US.

    Economist state that the mass deportation plan, if carried out as described by the Trump administration, will worsen the housing crisis and create an economic crisis in the long run.

    Did you think if you voted for him, he wouldn't do it. Surprise!!!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    Sort gives new meaning to things you could possibly do to yourself.

    Not hard information to figure out.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    I maybe wouldn't use that word for her, but she isn't very bright if she never figured out what her groceries are going to cost when all the farm hands are deported and there are no lined vegetable bins full of produce.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    Such a transparent bunch buying in so thoroughly to their own lies.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    Such a huge difference.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    And to be clear, there is a hell of a lot of pain attached to that.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

    Well, here is your oh wow! moment.

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  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,049
    edited 10:08PM

    The rich will get richer, the poor will get poorer and the middle class will be taxed to death. Amazon, Walmart, etc will record record profits as will the beef and other food industries that have formed huge conglomerates.

    I have family members who all suffer from short term memory loss and voted for this asshole. They will be very upset when the money they made from stocks and other savings will decrease.

    I do not want to lose my SS benefit since I have paid into it for over 50 years and even though I have a pension from my employer, I also had to pay into that. Plus if you lose SS, you will most likely lose Medicare as well. Pity those who have insurance through the ACA and may lose that.

    We should all be entitled to the pension plans and health insurance plans guaranteed to those worthless congressmen and senators who barely work a full year as most of us did.

    I am sickened by the outcome and how people still believe that Trump's words about SS, Medicare and Project 2025 were not true. He has never opened his mouth without uttering a lie.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363
    edited 9:55PM

    How Garland’s 'truly historic legal missteps' let Trump dodge accountability

    U.S. Attorney General Merrick Garland on December 6, 2023 (Creative Commons)Alex HendersonNovember 07, 2024

    Despite awaiting sentencing on 34 criminal counts and having faced four criminal indictments, President-elect Donald Trump enjoyed a decisive victory over Vice President Kamala Harris on Election Night 2024.

    Now that Trump in on his way back to the White House, special counsel Jack Smith's two federal cases against him are almost certain to disappear altogether. And it remains to be seen what type of sentence Justice Juan Merchan will impose in Manhattan District Alvin Bragg Jr.'s hush money/falsified business records case.

    Legal journalist Ankush Khardori, in a biting article published by Politico on November 7, argues that Trump will dodge accountability because of the "truly historic legal missteps by the Biden Administration and Attorney General Merrick Garland" as well as a "series of decisions by Republicans throughout the political and legal systems in recent years that effectively bailed Trump out when the risks for him were greatest."

    "The two federal criminal cases against him are now dead as a practical matter," Khardori laments. "Already there is reporting suggesting that special counsel Jack Smith will leave his post and dismiss the pending cases, which is not that surprising considering that Trump pledged to fire him once back in office anyway. The Georgia case, an overhyped and misguided vehicle for post-2020 legal accountability, is going to remain on ice and perhaps get thrown out entirely in the coming years…. In Manhattan, where Trump was supposed to be sentenced in a matter of weeks after his conviction in the Stormy Daniels hush money case earlier this year, Trump is likely to ask the court to cancel the sentencing date."

    Khardori adds, "Regardless of the mechanics, there is no reasonable scenario in which Trump serves some period of incarceration while also serving in the White House."

    The legal journalist argues that if Trump had "actually faced accountability," he never would have been the GOP's 2024 presidential nominee.

    "It is now clearer than ever that Garland was a highly questionable choice to serve as attorney general from the start," Khardori writes. "From the outset of the Biden presidency, it was readily apparent that Garland had little desire to investigate and potentially prosecute Trump."

    Garland, according to Khardori, moved way too slowly in appointing Smith as special counsel.

    "Garland is a serious, well-intentioned and complex figure," Khardori explains. "But given all this, he may go down as one of the worst and most broadly unpopular attorney generals in American history — hated by the anti-Trump part of the country for failing to bring Trump to justice, and hated by the pro-Trump part of the country for pursuing Trump at all. I sincerely hope he provides a first-hand accounting of what happened after he too leaves office next year."

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,363

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    2. 'Path forward' to Democrats winning may come sooner than you think: analysis

    'Path forward' to Democrats winning may come sooner than you think: analysis

    Image via Shutterstock.

    Brad Reed

    and

    Raw Story

    November 07, 2024

    Former President Donald Trump is inheriting an economy with low unemployment, falling inflation, and a record-high stock market.

    Regardless, the Washington Monthly's Bill Scher thinks it's a good bet that he will royally screw it up in the coming years.

    While the economy performed reasonably well for the first three years of Trump's presidency, Scher argues that is because many of his economic advisers stopped him from implementing some of his truly destructive ambitions such as starting global trade wars.

    Trump will face even fewer constraints in his second term, which makes the likelihood of a significant policy error even higher, according to the analysis.

    "Despite the bravado, Trump is no economic mastermind," Scher contends. "If he follows through on his across-the-board tariff plan, he may jack up prices high enough to cause a major political backlash, which happened to his beloved William McKinley. An immigration crackdown or mass deportation can also disrupt the labor market, causing negative economic consequences."

    He also thinks that Trump's personal characteristics make a massive misstep exceedingly likely.

    "Considering that Trump can never run for president again, doesn’t care about anyone but himself, doesn’t have to worry about the future of the Republican Party, and rarely listens to sane advice, I see the chances of Trump implementing self-indulgent, economically foolish policies to be high, especially with a cowed GOP-controlled Senate and, possible, a GOP House, to boot," he writes.

    However, Scher also thinks that Democrats cannot simply wait for Trump to foul things up. Rather, they have to go all-out to correct public perceptions about President Joe Biden's economy, which voters never warmed to even as inflation cooled and unemployment remained low.

    "Democrats can and should tell the true story of the Biden-Harris economic record, how they cleaned up Trump’s mess and handed him back a humming economy—just as Barack Obama cleaned up George W. Bush’s mess and handed it to Trump in the first place," he writes. "They should start now and repeat it often to help regain lost credibility."

    I do think we need to get some facts set straight. Not for sure, but the Reps, keep repeating their lies long enough to be believed. So, this is likely worth it. At the same time I'm definitely on board with his characterization of Trump and what his behaviors will be like. He is and has been his own 'law' for a long time and I can't see that changing, especially at this late date.