I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • trill1943
    trill1943 Member Posts: 1,135
    edited October 2020

    I DO--I BELIEVE YOU.


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
    edited October 2020

    What to say this close to the election. I think many ( but certainly McConnell ) are just like us. Hanging on for dear life. I don't know if he fell, ( face looks like it ) or what. One of the startling things for me is how career politicians ( a good reason for term limits maybe ) could allow themselves to get so entrenched with the likes of trump that they are now damned if they do or don't.

    As to the upcoming election: Who knows but here is a thought. If you realized how powerful your thoughts are, you would never think a negative thought.~ Peace Pilgrim Thoughts become things which is how we got so many great things in this world. I'm old enough to remember when there wasn't t.v. or polio vaccines which my parents were afraid I had one time.

    I try not to give negativism too much leeway. There is all sorts of it out in the world and lots of time it is easier just to give in which to me is another way to give up. We had scant proof that Hillary ( though it is now said there was plenty if you looked ) was going to lose in 2016. There is much more to make me think Biden ( for one thing he is not Hillary ) can get voted in, then to show me that Trump will get a second term. Women seemed to have abandoned him along with many of the conservatives in his own party who are running very good ads against him. Young people for the most part are voting against him. Black people, and minorities for the most part don't want him. He has lost a lot of the military vote and people who don't let others think for them are not on his side of the ledger. Anything is possible and I'm aware there is cheating, bribery, and all sort of suppressions could be going on right now -- and so I let a part of me worry because that helps you not be complacent. I'm not going to think Trump into winning -- I'm going to go the other way.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
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  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited October 2020

    The younger voters numbers-wow! And Democrats are using video games to reach this young base.

    Just last night I was discussing the young voter topic with my son. He's a software engineer in his mid-20s and I think that goes hand-in-hand to say he's also a gamer. We bonded over a few video games as he grew up (Pokemon, Legend of Zelda, ect.) so he keeps me current on the latest gaming fads.

    A very popular game currently is “Among Us". Ds plays with his friends (everyone plays from their own homes) and also his co-workers, who live across many continents. People who play can live-stream so others can sit back and watch (gamers version of watching a tennis match).

    Last night ds mentioned AOC (how he always refers to the congresswoman). She plays “Among Us" and according to WaPo:

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's "Among Us" stream is the third most-watched stream by an individual person on Twitch, peaking at about 440,000 concurrent viewers.

    She maintained well above 300,000 for the three hours she played "Among Us" with about a dozen other gaming influencers and celebrities all of whom streamed on their own and kept the concurrent viewers for the total experience well above half a million. It was part of a "Get Out the Vote" effort to push "voting plans" on viewers.

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    AOC playing 'Among Us' shouldn't surprise you. Streams are a beloved pastime

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2020/10/21/aoc-twitch-stream-explained/


  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited October 2020

    WaPo:

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez hosted an inaugural livestream on her new Twitch channel on Oct. 20, as part of an effort to encourage young voters to register and get to the polls.

    Ocasio-Cortez played and streamed the popular game "Among Us," drawing a peak viewership of about 438,000 — one of the highest peaks for an individual streamer this year.

    The stream reflects an increasing understanding by politicians and political consultants, especially on the left, that video games and the streaming platform Twitch are among the most engaging entertainment venues for younger voters.

    Twitch is owned by Amazon, whose CEO, Jeff Bezos, owns The Washington Post.

    With so many politicians embracing livestreaming, it has become the latest medium of choice to connect with younger audiences.

    Given this focus, politicians are just one more type of influencer and they have to master these forms of communication to connect with future voters," said Doron Nir, CEO of StreamElements, a livestreaming tools provider.

    AOC also appealed to left-leaning voters to vote for the Biden ticket, even in sure-thing states like New York, arguing that it gave them a chance to "tell the Democratic Party they gotta do better."

    Full article:

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez played 'Among Us' in a bid to get out the vote

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/video-games/2020/10/21/aoc-twitch-stream/

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited October 2020

    A fun, popular video game ds and I played is called “Animal Crossing”. You create a little village and travel about, ect. The Democrats also used this platform to promote Joe Biden:


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    Joe Biden has his own island on 'Animal Crossing' where you can learn about his campaign

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/18/business/biden-animal-crossing-island-trnd/index.html

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited October 2020

    So all this is to say, are the young voters more liberal leaning? Are all the young voters voting for Biden?

    I look at the Florida young votes cast and think of the Parkland mass shooting and how it seemed to galvanize the young people in that state who demanded gun reform. Has that momentum carried over to this election?

    One of the pollsters who has Biden leading with 4% said he will be out of a job and no one will ever trust polls again if Trump wins.

    Right now, either candidate has a chance. I am not counting out Biden.


  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
    edited October 2020

    I do have hope for the future. The younger politicians are connecting with their peers (other young people) in ways we older people can't even understand. DS & his girlfriend are in the Yang Gang, Mayor Pete connects across the board. I love that he goes on FOX News and really lets them have it......which even that audience seems to be attentive to......and he did a Town Hall there during the primaries, when the other Democrats wouldn't, and was very well received by the audience. You mentioned AOC, and there are many others. Once the present crop of Old White Guys is gone (either voted out or Mother Nature taking her course), I think there real be real change.

    *Mitch's bruises are real. My guess is that he took a tumble & braced himself. He's old & if he's on blood thinners that would explain the ugly bruising. I think he should retire and take care of his health......or better yet, be retired by the voters.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
    edited October 2020

    Heather Cox Richardson·

    October 22, 2020 (Thursday)

    Today had two important takeaways:

    Intelligence officials warned today that Russia recently hacked into our local and state computer networks. This could compromise our voting infrastructure. Intelligence officials believe our adversaries will try to help Trump, possibly by casting doubt on the voting results. While the administration has tried to insist that Iran and China are as significant a threat, experts disagree. Yesterday, Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe identified Iran as the originator of fake emails purporting to be the from the alt-right gang the Proud Boys warning Democrats to vote for Trump, but the information they used for the enterprise was all public. Russia, though, has hacked our private election systems, making officials worry that it could change or delete voter data, throwing people off the rolls or invalidating mail-in ballots.

    Bottom line on tonight's final presidential debate: Trump needed to move the needle in his direction. He didn't. Biden needed not to lose voters. He didn't. The debate will likely not change the trajectory of the election.

    If you need a break after this week's news hurricane, you can quit reading right here.

    For those sticking around….

    This was not a good day for the president's reelection campaign. He seemed unable to get over how angry he was at Lesley Stahl from CBS's 60 Minutes after yesterday's interview for a special program Sunday evening, and ultimately decided to post on Facebook the video the White House took during it. Trump's team had said they were recording "for archival purposes only," and posting the video meant Trump violated his agreement with the network.

    Trump seemed to think showing the clip would illustrate how poorly the media treats him, but in fact it shows Stahl behaving professionally, asking solid questions and fact-checking the president, while Trump argues and denigrates her. If the clip was supposed to generate sympathy for him, it backfired.

    The debate did him no favors either. Debate moderator Kristen Welker of NBC News was far more effective at keeping control over the debate than the previous two moderators were, especially at first, when the two men appeared to be afraid of her cutting their mics. Trump could not contain himself for long, though, and slipped pretty quickly back into talking over Welker and Biden both. Still, he was far more restrained than he was at the first debate.

    More significantly, he made little effort to use his time to connect with voters. He focused simply on badgering Biden and rehearsing the talking points that have become almost set pieces in his performances. They are not entirely comprehensible to someone who is not reading or watching right-wing media, but they are quite shockingly full of lies. And while his language is familiar to his usual audience, it is unlikely to attract new voters, who will likely be confused at best and, possibly, bored after hearing the same phrases for so long.

    While Biden, too, strayed from the truth on occasion, CNN fact checker Daniel Dale put it this way: "For a fact checker, you're kind of sitting there w/Biden. Occasionally you're like oh that's wrong. With Trump you're like the 'I Love Lucy' episode in the chocolate factory. You don't know which one to pick up because there's just so much." He noted, "From a lying perspective, Trump is even worse tonight than in the first debate."

    Trump did not make much of a case for his reelection tonight. He seemed to have no plans for what he would like to accomplish in a second term, although he did say he hoped to create a new healthcare plan (he has said repeatedly he already has one). He mocked Biden for talking about the so-called "kitchen table issues" that are important to ordinary voters, and insisted that Biden should have done everything he talks about accomplishing in the future back when he was vice president under President Barack Obama. At one point, Trump talked about what he would do "when I become president."

    For his part, Biden largely ignored Trump's wild answers and tried to outline his policies, which he described with more detail than clarity, but which were interesting nonetheless because they offered something new when compared with Trump's rote performance, worn thin by familiarity. Biden had no major slips. Trump pounced on Biden's declaration that the nation must transition away from oil, instantly responding, "Will you remember that Texas, Pennsylvania, Oklahoma, Ohio?" But Pennsylvania and Ohio produce just a tiny bit of crude oil—they are both primarily natural gas states—and Trump's identification of Texas and Oklahoma was a self-own. He is worried about carrying Texas and Oklahoma?"

    Most telling was that Trump was unprepared for Welker's final, excellent but softball question: if they were to be elected, what would they say on Inauguration Day to voters who did not support them. Trump claimed that rebuilding the economy "to make our country totally successful as it was prior to the plague coming over from China" would bring Americans together, and then pivoted to attacking Biden, warning that if he were elected, "you will have a depression the likes of which you've never seen."

    Biden, though, recognized that Welker had deliberately lobbed them the opportunity to make a final pitch to voters. He promised to represent all voters, not just those who voted for him, and promised to put "science over fiction" and "hope over fear." "We're going to choose to move forward because we have enormous opportunities, enormous opportunities to make things better," he said. "We can grow this economy, we can deal with the systemic racism, and at the same time we can make sure that our economy is being run and moved and motivated by clean energy creating millions of new jobs. That's the fact."

    On the ballot this year, he said, are "Decency, honor, respect, treating people with dignity, making sure that everyone has an even chance, and I'm going to make sure you get that."

    Instant polls gave the debate to Biden by the same margins showing in the polls in general. CNN had Biden at 53% and Trump at 39%; Data Progress had Biden at 52% and Trump at 41%; US Politics had Biden at 52% and Trump at 39%.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
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  • JACK5IE
    JACK5IE Member Posts: 654
    edited October 2020

    I don't know. Trump has been looking like the cat that ate the canary to me. Like he knows something the rest of us don't.

    Whoever wins, I think we will see some civil unrest over the results.

  • mountainmia
    mountainmia Member Posts: 857
    edited October 2020

    If trump looks happy, it's probably because he's getting fed by the rally-superspreader events he's holding. Like Godzilla gets fed by radiation.


    But as to civil unrest, I think that's inevitable.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
    edited October 2020

    Ruth, excellent memes and so glad you put in Heather C. Richardson as I had not time to go read her and it was quite a column. I also feel

    Un-rest if Trump looks like he is riding high it is because he does get off on his rallies and he is likely thrilled about all those people he may be doing in with his super-spreader at the same time. That he seems to not think of these people as possible voters for the Reps. that come after him -- well no surprise there. When has he ever thought about anyone but himself.

    Un-rest -- probably. Trump keeps lighting that fire over and over -- every time he is out. Then again, I'd think plans the other way have been made to hopefully deal forcefully and quickly with that. Trump is sooo evil and has made it possible for other like-minded people to turn their own evil loose. Birds of the feather and all. If I believed in a hot place ( which I don't ) I'd sure be thinking that is where they would all end up.


  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
    edited October 2020

    Some things to watch on TV this weekend: Tonight's SNL should cover the debate. 60 Minutes will air the spot that Trump walked out on (I am sure it will bug him if it's watched "bigly", and the First Lady being covered on CNN First Ladies special is Eleanor Roosevelt.

  • ruthbru
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  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited October 2020

    Here's the full story about that photo Trill posted of “Trump's Covid Plan"

    On Friday, the Biden campaign revealed a new site called TrumpCovidPlan.com, featuring a photo of Trump and a promise: "You've never seen a plan like it."


    “After eight months of this pandemic, we finally found President Trump's plan to beat COVID-19. https://t.co/KO4g328Uvr
    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) October 23, 2020

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    The link's preview assures readers that "Everyone who's seen President Trump's COVID-19 plan says it's tremendous".

    However, when you click on the link, this is what pops up:


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  • WordGirl1968
    WordGirl1968 Member Posts: 29
    edited October 2020

    Hello! I’ve been lurking on this board and admiring the needed humor!! I’m only 17 days post-op from a bmx without reconstruction but have had a few setbacks (infection, severe anemia) so I haven’t felt quite witty enough to contribute here. I will say, however, that I own a small indie bookshop on the outskirts of Philly. I opened it 3 days before the 2016 election and, oh boy. I hate to hate but Trump inspires it daily. Hope to connect with you as chemo starts next month...I’ll be far more nauseated if Biden doesn’t win. Be well, everyone.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
    edited October 2020

    Welcome WordGirl! Lurk away and chime in whenever you feel up to it. Sending a healing virtual hug your way!

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited October 2020

    Welcome Wordgirl. Wishing you a speedy recovery, and so glad you have joined us.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
    edited October 2020

    As George Washington said, "Good moral character is the first essential in a man."

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
    edited October 2020

    Wordgirl, sorry you are having some issues and not feeling up to posting with us. Were a good group. We will wait for you. We aim to attempt to save each other's sanity here. Frankly, I'd be so lost if I could not come here. I started out as a lurker too -- best thing I ever did for myself and my brain cells. They don't always work so well, but it just makes me appreciate this place all the more.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
    edited October 2020

    Oh, Lordy. Get a load of the first and last row. Hope most of them get the door with their fearless bunker boy leader on Nov. 3rd.


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    Make that all the rows. Not all are up for Nov. 3rd. -- but hopefully their time will come too.

  • beaverntx
    beaverntx Member Posts: 2,962
    edited October 2020

    Wordgirl, joining the welcoming crew. Glad you found us. I, too, sometimes lurk and sometimes comment but visit regularly for a sanity visit!!