I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
    edited October 2020

    I love him so much!

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited October 2020

    Trish, I very much appreciate your positive logic! Your statistics bolster my hope. And I said the same thing to my husband this weekend that you said, "Can you imagine anyone thinking to themself "I thought Trump was horrible in 2018, but now he's my guy."? I can't.

    The thing is, those who never voted before are voting this election. Now whether that skews Democratic or Republican, sometimes it depends on what that news source is. I want to have faith in the young voters. I want to believe their majority is open-minded, more liberal leaning. It is impressive the numbers of them that have voted so far.

    I do believe the arc of the universe leans towards justice when people take action. That's key. All those marchers for every cause, women's rights, black lives, the gay community, you name it. They march but they must also vote. It is simply not enough to protest.

    How about the people who are waiting to vote next Tuesday? I wouldn't want to chance it. I would find any way possible to vote early. And not to mail it but deliver it or go to where you can vote early.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,359
    edited October 2020

    Thanks for the 'arc of justice' quote. A good thing for all of us to remember. I have too many VERY intelligent family & friends who are still voting for the orange one. Unfathomable. One particular attorney said he would never take a vaccine recommended by Dr. Faucci. I countered that I would never take a vaccine recommended by anyone else.

  • SerenitySTAT
    SerenitySTAT Member Posts: 3,534
    edited October 2020

    There's hope. I know of 4 expat votes that are counted in SC. All for Democrats. Lady G might cry!

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
    edited October 2020

    I think there are many reasons to hope on this election. I personally thing Trump is dumb. He is a con man. He is smart in the ways of reading people because con men have to know whom they can bamboozle and gain advantage. You don't learn that from books. I also think Ruth made excellent points. It is also well to remember what took place in 2018.

    Although I've not much time today -- I'm not seeing or hearing Biden, or Pres. Obama shelling out with a give up attitude. As long as they are fighting I will too. It is easy after the four yrs. we have come through to feel despair and un-certainty and you can hear plenty of negative " here's how they going to do it " kind of ramblings if you are of a mind. You can't build anything with that. Build on that arc. Justice can happen but you have to let it live by helping it. Being negative, worrying about bad outcomes are likely in mind-- and I do think Biden and Harris have had their eye on that ball for some time and have likely plans in place if needed. It is our job to do our best to stay hopeful and helpful.

    Lastly I think you get what you ask for -- so be careful how you paint your picture.

    ETA: Thank you Serenity.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
    edited October 2020

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    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
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  • JACK5IE
    JACK5IE Member Posts: 654
    edited October 2020

    Beautiful photo of your father Trill!

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited October 2020

    We are definitely in a different place than the 2016 election. Biden is doing just what I want him to be doing and that is peaking at the right time. He is, as they say, more likeable than Hillary. The youth have warmed up to him. Trump has a track record, which he did not have last election. Biden has a whole lot of campaign cash and Trump does not. Over the weekend, there were at least 10 tv ads for Biden for every one tv ad for Trump. I've gotten several robo calls for Trump but I'm not getting the vote for Trump flyers in the mail any more.

    I definitely believe a Biden win is possible. It's the stop-at-absolutely-nothing-to-win mentality of Trump that is the unknown factor.


  • Artista928
    Artista928 Member Posts: 1,458
    edited October 2020

    You guys have higher confidence than me. Rump has a lot of people working for him to win..

  • erento
    erento Member Posts: 187
    edited October 2020

    I hope Trump suffers a bigly own goal! This is very promising news.

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    For data geeks, this is the link to googlesheet:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/2/d/1_qHfrO...*35ZBJx9FIKSCa9PYaWbe-A#gid=0

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited October 2020

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  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited October 2020

    My Mom is originally from NC. She moved down here when she was 11, and she is now 83. She said to me last night: I hope NC goes for Biden. I will be so ashamed of my home state if they go for Trump". And while I agree with her, I said: "Mom, I hope FLORIDA goes for Biden or we will all be ashamed." Mom's ballot was mailed, and has been tracked OK. Brother and SIL used a drop box as did I.

    I did my poll greeter shift today. The lines were shorter, and I got to mostly stand in the shade. Which was a huge plus, as it topped out at 92 F today and 98% humidity. Only one really nasty person. Most people were either happy to take the leaflet or tell me that they were good with their selections. A couple of people thanked me for volunteering which was nice.

    One message we are now working to get across: Today is the LAST day anyone should consider mailing their ballot. It runs a great chance of not getting there on time. Many states, including FL, the ballot must be RECEIVED by Tues Nov 3rd,,, the postmark doesn't count. And as things are happening in PA on that subject,,,, please encourage everyone to either vote in person or drop their ballot off at an official drop box.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited October 2020

    glennie, thanks for the volunteering at the polls report. Are you signed up to do any more volunteering?

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited October 2020


    Chuck Schumer:

    "I want to be very clear with my Republican colleagues. You may win this vote. And Amy Coney Barrett may become the next Associate Justice of the Supreme Court. But you will never, never get your credibility back. And the next time the American people give Democrats a majority in this chamber, you will have forfeited the right to tell us how to run that majority.

    You may win this vote. But in the process you will speed the precipitous decline of faith in our institutions, our politics, the Senate and the Supreme Court. You will give an already divided and angry nation a fresh outrage, and open a wound in this chamber that may never heal.

    You walk a perilous road.

    I know you think that this will eventually blow over. But you are wrong. The American people will never forget this blatant act of bad faith. They will never forget your complete disregard for their voices, for the people standing in line right now voting their choice, not your choice.

    They will never forget the lack of consistency, honor, decency, fairness and principle. They will never forget the rights that are limited, constrained or taken away by a far-right majority on the Supreme Court.

    And history will record that by brute political force, in total contradiction to its stated principles, this Republican majority confirmed a lifetime appointment on the eve of an election; a justice who will alter the lives and freedoms of the American people while they stood in line to vote."

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited October 2020

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  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited October 2020

    Divine: Yes, I'll be at early voting on Friday downtown at the Supervisor of Elections office, and I'll be at my precinct on Election day for the 5-7PM shift. Gotta get all those last minute people!

  • miriandra
    miriandra Member Posts: 2,211
    edited October 2020

    I need to go through my jewelry box.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
    edited October 2020

    Divine, I am so happy you put in the Chuck Schumer piece. I was watching him when he gave that little speech, but now and then I just can't make heads or tails much. I wear hearing aids and it may be when the furnace is on or their is some background noise or interference and I felt it was important to hear, but try as I might -- I just couldn't hear it.

    I'm assuming while I hope desperately that many of the Reps. will end up with very deep regrets. I ( unless we all do go down the tubes ) don't see anything for the R's but a short-term high over Barrett that should melt rather quickly. McConnell seems to think things do not look good for the Senate right now and is even worried that he could end up the minority leader. I'd like to see him end up as totally out.

    I do know that Trump has a whole lot of help and it concerns me but many of them are not all that good at what they are doing. The one I'm most surprised about is Bill Barr. He spent a fair amt. of time in government before he auditioned and got the job of Trump's Roy Cohn. Yet, just about every time he has tried to further causes for Trump, in some way they haven't really worked. He got away ( for a while ) with changing around the Muller Report but that has been out now for some time that he altered the case. so as to make it sound there isn't one. He screwed up big time gassing people out of Lafayette Park. He has tried to get Flynn out of jail by dropping the DOJ's case and Flynn still sits in jail. He has tried to make a case through John Durham to get the former Pres., VP, and others dirty for spying or other nefarious activities having to do with Trump and that went bust.

    My fears of Trump are that he just gets crazier and crazier as he panics over the fact he is losing. One of the problems with that side are there is a whole segment of his followers that have some of the same issues as he. They will NEVER really trust anyone and they likely would be the ones to have weapons and start some real problems -- and I don't doubt one bit that Trump will yell that there has been cheating ( especially with mail-in votes ) and he will be the victim then and expect these people to vindicate his loss for him. Yes, I do think there could be some issues, but I also think the right people are aware of all the "troubles " that could crop up. I don't think they will yell from the rooftops that they are ready for whatever comes, but I think they are. Trump didn't just get crazy last month.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
    edited October 2020

    How neat about the pearls. I don't have any pearls, but I likely could borrow from someone who has extra or even find something at one of the stores around here.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
    edited October 2020

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
    edited October 2020

    This is so one of the things that get to me. I look at this woman's record and think -- how can you even come close ( unless she is something of a narcissist too ) to thinking you deserve the honor of being on the Supreme Court. Then I think well the Trump bar is so low that he has completely lowered all the others. This woman should be ashamed to be so blatant as to defile the institution. Maybe it really is time to think about not making the Court for a lifetime.


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,794
    edited October 2020

    Then again:


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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
    edited October 2020

    The author of this piece was one of my Pom Pon Girls when she was in 8th & 9th grade. Her dad is a friend of mine & one of the best teachers ever! It's about being a women in politics:

    "I'll never forget the first conversation I had when managing a very tough race in my political career. Two male, big name politicos from my same party reached out and wanted to have a meeting right when I got to town. As soon as we sat down, they lectured me about everything under the guise of political help in a state that "does things differently". But, the conversation turned into a warning to "stay in your lane" and not mess with their plan. I listened and after 45 minutes, I said "thanks for the help, but I've got this. You don't sign my check."

    I'm almost positive this conversation would never have happened if I weren't a young, female staffer. At the time, it didn't bother me. I was used to being underestimated by men in my field, and conversations like that one happened so frequently, I truly stopped paying attention to it. But I'll never forget the way it made me feel, and how all of my political accomplishments up to that point were not even part of their calculation to offer me any amount of respect as a campaign manager.

    Welcome to being a woman in the world of politics.

    Sexism exists at all levels of the political ladder, behind closed doors and out in the open. At the early October Vice Presidential debate, Senator Kamala Harris threaded every sexist needle our society imposes on women. Whether you're in an office staff meeting or debating the Vice President on national TV, the standard of "success" for women is outrageously high. And when you're a woman of color, it's even higher. At the debate, Kamala used her tone and demeanor to great effect. How many women in the days ahead will use the phrase, "I'm speaking now," the next time someone tries to mansplain to her?

    Sexism in Presidential elections certainly isn't anything new. Hillary Clinton's historic presidential runs in 2008 and 2016 were tinged with sexist reporting and attacks. These attacks ranged from her physical appearance to her "likability" to her marriage to her age. In 2016, she received disproportionately negative media attention compared to both her primary opponent, Bernie Sanders, and general election opponent, Donald Trump. Both Trump and Sanders are older than Clinton, yet attack ads and media outlets focused only on her health, with little evidence to back up their claims.

    And this doesn't just affect the women in the spotlight. The "Old Boys Club" of politics has stuck around, even as more and more women were hired to work on the hill behind the scenes. A field traditionally dominated by men, the culture of the halls of Congress can be hard to break into as a woman. Female staffers have reported being touched inappropriately by men, being offered lower salaries than their male counterparts, and incorrectly being addressed as their male coworker's subordinate.

    In the past four years, women and girls in North Dakota and across the country have seen themselves represented more and more by the women that have stepped up to the plate and run for office — including my old boss, Senator Heitkamp. But still, women only make up 23.7 percent of Congress. That being said, political participation by women often leads to greater outcomes for everyone. Women are more likely to work across the aisle and bring perspectives and priorities that their male counterparts often lack. I see this first hand on many occasions when the women of the Senate met.

    Being a woman in politics can be hard. But now, more than ever before, women and girls have female leaders and role models they can look up to and see themselves in. When we see women like Senator Harris debate the Vice President and campaign for a better future or Senator Heitkamp win in deep red North Dakota, we feel more empowered to stand up for ourselves in our own lives. With election day just a few days away, we have the chance to elect people who believe in the power of women and will fight to make sure we're represented.


    Tessa Gould- Executive Director at One Country Project


  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
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    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
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    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
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    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
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  • trill1943
    trill1943 Member Posts: 1,135
    edited October 2020

    This is how Trump was feeling inside while Lesley Stahl interviewed him.....


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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
    edited October 2020

    That's how he was looking too!