I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • illinoislady
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    Court Filing: Jack Smith Has Discovered Donald Trump’s Motive For Stealing Classified Docs

    A Monday court filing from Special Counsel Jack Smith in the case of former president Donald Trump’s theft of classified documents which he later stored in boxes at his Mar-a-Lago resort makes it clear that Smith has indeed found the underlying motive for why Trump thought he needed those documents in the first place.

    Aaron Blake of the Washington Post took a close look at the new filing and writes that one particular “nugget” caught his eye.

    While arguing against the motion by Trump’s lawyers to delay the May 20 trial, special counsel Jack Smith’s lawyers assured they’re ready to go and that such a delay isn’t necessary, unsurprisingly. But they also said they are ready to prove something significant that, to this point, has remained shrouded and the subject of much speculation: why Trump allegedly took and kept the documents.

    In the filing, Smith and his team of prosecutors write, “That the classified materials at issue in this case were taken from the White House and retained at Mar-a-Lago is not in dispute.”

    The filing continues:

    “What is in dispute is how that occurred, why it occurred, what Trump knew, and what Trump intended in retaining them — all issues that the Government will prove at trial primarily with unclassified evidence.”

    Keep in mind that proving intent isn’t necessary for Trump to be found guilty. After all, the evidence shows he had the documents in his possession and knew he wasn’t allowed to have them, despite his public protestations that he had every right to take any document under his powers as president. But of course those powers went away the second he left office, as Blake notes.

    You have documents, you fail to return them when the government comes calling and that’s a crime regardless of why you did it, the argument goes. Trump’s indictment in the case made no direct claims about a potential motive.

    Proving a motive, however, might be incredibly helpful to convince a jury that Trump had bad intentions and wasn’t just a pack rat.

    Indeed, establishing a motive would seem to drive home the intention of Trump’s actions and combat any arguments that this was all a misunderstanding — or that Trump somehow didn’t know what he had (which the government has taken care to undermine).

    What might that motive be? Well, it involves Iran, which is suddenly very much in the headlines after the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel.

    Perhaps the most significant document in the indictment deals with a plan for attacking Iran, which Trump allegedly showed to a writer and a publisher. A recording of the scene has been made public.

    The document and recording are significant because they show Trump acknowledging, in real time, that the document is classified and that he never declassified it — contrary to his public suggestions about the documents. (Trump had also initially said the document didn’t exist and that his talk was mere bravado — before Smith’s team added the actual alleged document to a superseding indictment.)

    More specifically, Trump may have wanted to use the documents as a way to attack his critics, including former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley, who has been highly critical of the disgraced ex-president.

    Whether other evidence points in this direction, we don’t yet know. But Smith’s team has clearly shown an interest in whether Trump used the documents for his personal advantage. In April it subpoenaed information about the dealings of Trump’s businesses with foreign countries, for instance, apparently in search of a possible financial motive.

    Revenge and profit. Those certainly sound like perfect motives for a man as hateful and greedy as Donald Trump. In time, it appears we’ll know for sure.

  • illinoislady
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    Wholehearted living is about engaging in our lives from a place of worthiness.  It means cultivating the courage, compassion, and connection to wake up in the morning and think, No matter what gets done and how much is left undone, I am enough.  It’s going to bed at night thinking, Yes, I am imperfect and vulnerable and sometimes afraid, but that doesn’t change the truth that I am also brave and worthy of love and belonging.

    Brené Brown

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    When corrupt politicians like Donald Trump start getting hauled off to prison, we can start to trust our government again.

  • illinoislady
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    About it —worthless.

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    And Evangelicals flocked to his siren song.

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    Sadly, the way it is.

  • illinoislady
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    Hmmm this may be a real fat chance.

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  • illinoislady
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    Give the best you have received from the past to the best that
    you may come to know in the future.  Accept life daily not as a cup
    to be drained but as a chalice to be filled with whatsoever things are
    honest, pure, lovely, and of good report.  Making a living is best
    undertaken as part of the more important business of making a life.
    Every now and again take a good look at something not made with
    hands—a mountain, a star, the turn of a stream.  There will come
    to you wisdom and patience and solace, and above all the assurance
    that you are not alone in the world.

    Sidney Lovett

  • illinoislady
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    Loved the fork in the road cardplayer. Wouldn't it be nice. Reading some articles, it really sounded to me as if many (I know there are a number of extremists) of the Reps. are truly warped and while they hide somewhat behind, he Loon, even with him gone which he hopefully will be soon enough, they would remain greedy, dishonest, and totally un-trustworthy. I do hope though some may still be able to rise to the challenge of doing what it takes to try and salvage what they can to start over.

    It is the only time I would say they need to go back somewhat in time when they were still a REAL party. Usually I'm all about forward, but they stopped doing that a long time ago.

  • illinoislady
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    Just heard on the news Scalise withdrew his application. These were two of the worst, not that there seems much of anyone who isn't heavily tainted in some way. So, still w/o a real candidate as yet. Who will be next I wonder. I've heard both — that McCarthy would put his name in again and that he wouldn't. Were I to guess I'd say he wouldn't.

  • illinoislady
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    Sure had a different opinion when he could get a really good pr picture out of it. Then again, it is about his children. They look like rejects from a bad movie to me, but probably right in style for the time.

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    edited October 2023

    So while you people play games and blow yourselves up, you are casing extreme issues and problems for others. Of course, you don't care — that takes a conscience and soul.

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