I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778
  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    I truly believe we can either see the connections, celebrate them, and
    express gratitude for our blessings, or we can see life as a string of
    coincidences that have no meaning or connection.
    As for me, I’m going to believe in miracles, celebrate life, rejoice in the
    views of eternity and hope my choices will create a positive ripple
    effect in the lives of others.  This is my choice.

    Mike Ericksen
    Upon Destiny's Song

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    This is an article from Palmer:

    Donald Trump’s attorneys are now pushing to get his January 6th federal criminal trial televised. This isn’t really a thing when it comes to federal criminal trials, so it’s not clear if Team Trump is actually trying to get it televised, or is merely instead making this filing so Trump can play victim to his base when the trial isn’t televised.

    I’d personally love to be able to watch the Trump trial on live television. I’d love to see him squirm. And there is an argument that voters toward the middle could be swayed by a televised trial. Republicans who don’t like Trump might watch it and then decide to stay home on election day instead of going out to vote. People who don’t like Trump might watch the trial and then decide to vote for Biden (this all assumes Trump will be the nominee, which is far from a given). But Jack Smith appears to be signaling that he’s opposed to televising the trial, and it’s not difficult to understand why.

    As things stand, Jack Smith’s January 6th criminal case against Trump is an overwhelming slam dunk. It’s very likely that Trump will be convicted on all charges, and pretty much a given that he’ll be convicted on at least some of the charges. So why would Smith want to allow a destabilizing influence like a television camera in the courtroom to put all of that at risk?

    If the trial is televised, Trump’s attorneys will feel compelled to try bizarre courtroom stunts aimed at keeping their addle-brained client happy. They’ll put conspiracy theorists on the stand as defense witnesses, solely to play to the cameras. And honest witnesses for the prosecution could end up being rattled and distracted while trying to testify, knowing that they’re speaking live to millions of people.

    In other words, if the trial is televised, it could play out very differently in the courtroom. Even though the jury would be there in the courtroom, not watching on TV, the TV cameras could still cause the jury to see a very different trial while sitting in the courtroom.

    The closest comparison might be the OJ Simpson murder trial. That was a flawed case to begin with. But if the trial hadn’t been televised, and if everyone in the courtroom hadn’t been playing to the cameras the whole time, there’s reason to believe that maybe he’d have ended up convicted.

    With an overwhelming airtight case like the one that Jack Smith has against Donald Trump for election fraud, it’s harder to picture how having TV cameras in the courtroom could lead to an acquittal. But is that a risk you want to take? If the odds of conviction without TV cameras are 99%, and the odds of conviction with TV cameras are some unknown number lower than that, why risk it?

    I would argue that a conviction against Donald Trump is worth more politically than a televised trial. Polling consistently shows that there are a number of people – more than enough to decide the outcome of the election – who say they’re less inclined to vote for Trump if he’s convicted. So let’s just hold the trial without any funny business like courtroom cameras, get him convicted, and go from there.

    On the other hand, if Jack Smith does ultimately end up going along with televising the trial, then we can take that as a sign that he thinks conviction is assured either way. But it has to be his call to make. He’s the one who knows his case better than we do. If we trust him overall, then we have to trust him with calls like this one.

    I have wondered about this — both ways. I guess as stated we will have to see what Jack Smith says, but it is and has been the rule not to televise so even if Smith says fine, it actually might not happen. I do think since we will see the trial in Georgia, anyone who MAY be on the fence will still have an opportunity to see the Loon lie his head loose and likely by then be a lot farther gone in his? dementia. So just more obvious that he is not only guilty, but certainly totally in-capable as far as being on the ballot.

    I do think and have read in a number of places that the mental deteriorations are not going to affect the trials as such. If found guilty there will be suitable punishment.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,319

    In the OJ case, the glove that did not incriminate him had shrunk and that is why it did not fit. Anyone who has owned a pair of leather gloves knows that exposure to wetness (in that case blood) and drenching will result in a ruined glove that will not fit again. Why this was not explored has never ceased to amaze me as poor on the part of the DA's.

    As far as televising the Loon's trial, he wants free publicity, for his base to see his tantrums to confirm his allegations of prejudice/witch hunt and to turn it into a 3 ring circus. I would not watch it because I do not want to give him any semblance of credibility. He's a criminal and deserves to go to prison for treason and inciting sedition.

    His mental deterioration is evident and I hope he continues to rant like the Loon he is to prove that he is losing it. Like Putin, he is dangerous because he is focused on revenge on those he perceives as not serving his wishes.

  • cardplayer
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    Ah, she had no idea they were going to bury her at the un-kept end of a Trump golf course. I say haunt them Ivana. Don't let those silver-spoon 'pansies' get away with it.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    On the stand again today and lied like the TRUMP he is. Another miserable excuse trying to pass as a decent human.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    Sure glad its only a cartoon. I wasn't even going to put it in but decided that it wouldn't surprise me being it's the Loon.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    Another of the Reps. lovelies.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    This and the one above I've had here before, but they are both Still sooooo valid.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    BREAKING: Trump Junior testifies for the second time in New York Attorney General Letitia James’ $250 million fraud trial against Donald Trump and his family business, tells a whopping lie that will surely backfire on him and his father…

    Under oath today, Trump Jr. declared that it was a “mistake” for Trump and his family to not have pursued any “new deals” while Donald Trump was president, testifying, “In retrospect, that was probably a mistake.”

    Trump Jr. continued, declaring that “everyone” claimed that “we were still doing” deals, so it didn't really matter and we got no credit for it.”

    Unbelievably, only minutes later, Trump Junior contradicted himself, admitting under oath that he started working on “bigger picture deals” soon after his father was sworn in as president in 2017.

    Tellingly, Donald Trump Junior made no mention of the various ways that, according to Forbes, Donald Trump and his family enriched themselves while Trump was President to the tune of a whopping $2.4 BILLION dollars, even including, according to Politico, the fact that, “state-owned companies in China, Saudi Arabia and South Korea are built Trump resorts while Trump was President, a Chinese state-owned company was awarded a multimillion dollar contract to help develop a Trump golf course in Dubai amid a U.S.-China trade war,” that “T-Mobile executives stayed at Trump’s Washington hotel while seeking a green light from the federal government for a merger,” and that “the IRS commissioner, who refused to release Trump’s tax returns to Congress, collects rent from a pair of Trump condos in Hawaii.”

    But that’s just the tip of the iceberg…

    According to Politico, “Trump promoted his properties dozens of times while in office, mentioning them in official remarks, everywhere from the United Nations to the Oval Office, and in tweets to his more than 60 million followers, with the frequency increasing each year he’s been president. He tweeted about Trump International Scotland, melding his businesses and his presidency in the message. “Very proud of perhaps the greatest golf course anywhere in the world. Also, furthers U.K. relationship!”
    Trump also tried to hold the 2020 G-7 world leaders’ summit at his financially struggling Trump National Doral Miami resort. But he reversed course after days of intense scrutiny from Democrats and Republicans, who complained he would be lining his pockets with both U.S. and foreign government money. Trump and his adult children frequently Trump resorts around the globe on vacation and on business trips, forcing the Secret Service and other federal agencies accompanying them to spend taxpayer money at Trump properties. The Secret Service spent more than $250,000 at Trump properties during a five-month period in 2017.”

    Then, Ivanka Trump’s husband Jared Kushner inked a massive $2 billion dollar deal with Saudi Arabia just weeks after Trump left the White House in early 2023.

    The major difference between Jr. and his dad is that Jr. is skinny and isn't orange. Otherwise, they are two peas in a pod.

    On their heels are un-attractive Eric and Ivanka.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    I don't think he will get anywhere near the WH but do wonder what all the Reps. would think when they got the SAME as all of us.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    Amen.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    Soon the media is going to have to own up.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,778

    Extraordinary deplorable.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
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  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178

    That one cartoon made the loon look like Alfred E Newman What me worry?