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Recurrence after 12 years (even with BMX)

I was diagnosed and treated for ILC Stage 2b 12 years ago. Had BMX and took Tamox and AI for about 6 years. I was told 1-2% chance of recurrence in chest wall, etc. Low and behold, a lump under my arm on original BC side. Biopsy confirmed not a lymph node but ILC tumor. Surgeon planning to remove tumor and potentially do axillary disection if any suspicious nodes. Awaiting PET on 7/21 to determine if spread elsewhere then no surgery. I haven’t found many stories of this type of recurrence and am wondering if anyone has feedback. Thank you.

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  • lw422
    lw422 Member Posts: 1,414

    Hello. Sorry to hear of your recurrence and hopefully it is confined to that single tumor. I have not had a similar experience but recurrence is always a possibility with freakin' cancer. Take care and let us know what you learn from the PET. Here's hoping that you get the best possible outcome.

  • newfmamainoregon
    newfmamainoregon Member Posts: 7

    PET scan didn’t pick up the tumor so hard to know if there is any distant spread. The PET 12 years ago was the same, didn’t even see the cancer in breast, same with MRI.

    Surgery scheduled for Aug 1st. Hopefully no lymph node involvement. MO & surgeon recommending radiation which I may decline. Will restart AI.

  • moderators
    moderators Posts: 8,570

    We're so sorry to hear this, @newfmamainoregon. We're thinking of all and hope your surgery goes well and your recovery is swift.

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  • agapewins
    agapewins Member Posts: 4

    Initial ILC 2005, 2 areas in same breast. Needed mastectomy but opted for bilateral mastectomy with immediate reconstruction. No chemo or radiation. EASY recovery thankfully! 5 years of various AI’s.

    17 years later ( 2022) diagnosed with recurrence in skin/ chest wall. 2 surgeries to get clean margins. Completed 1 month of radiation.

    So far so good but I opted out of AI’s this time since they gave me osteoporosis the first time around. I am receiving high dose IV vitamin C now.

  • newfmamainoregon
    newfmamainoregon Member Posts: 7

    It’s been a rough year for me. Last August, I elected for surgery and regretfully, radiation to chest wall, clavicle and axilla. Surgery was rough as cancer had grown into chest wall muscle. Radiation for 25 days was rough too but healing happened within about 30 days. Unfortunately, I ended up with radiation induced pneumonitis/organizing pneumonia. It took 40 days of me being sick with fever, horrible cough and difficulty breathing (given 5 rounds of antibiotics as they thought it was pneumonia). Finally, CT scan done and confirmed the inflammation was radiation induced. I spent the next 75 days on high dose steroids and thankfully symptoms mostly abated by July.
    Fast forward to September and started having issues with right arm nerve pain and electrical issues along with neuro issues. Plus my Signatera blood test came back with positive number for ctDNA (circulating tumor dna). Had a brachial MRI that shows potential radiation induced plexopathy and will have a brain MRI on 11/4. I restarted Letrozole about 10 days ago and side effects are rearing their ugly heads. Onc wants me to also consider adding Kisali, which I’m currently reading about on the BC forum. Onc said cancer is growing somewhere, we’re just not sure where yet. She is recommending I get a FES PET but I can’t do it in my home town and am not able to travel without finding someone to take care of my husband and horses.

    If anyone has any experience with Kisali and Letrozole, please share the good, bad and ugly.


    Thanks for listening.

  • maggie15
    maggie15 Member Posts: 1,316
    edited 7:03AM

    newfmamainoregon, I’m sorry you were got by rads as I was. I ended out with radiation induced pulmonary fibrosis (skipped the curable pneumonitis,) damage to the brachial plexus and other nerves in the radiation field, esophageal dysplasia and a previously excised thyroid goiter which regrew larger than ever in six months. Almost three years later a lytic lesion was found in my acetabulum. The bone tumor radiologists decided it was a met or a benign lesion mimicking one (5% chance.) Unfortunately the ortho oncs determined there was a >70% chance my hip would be irreparably broken by a biopsy.

    I did have a FES PET looking for something else to biopsy even though the radiologist at MSK who supplied the tracer didn’t think the deep hip lesion would receive any of it. The only thing that lit up was the RIPF in my lung; I learned pulmonary fibrosis has estrogen receptors. Also, a FES PET does not show liver mets so while it can be useful it still misses about 13% of ER+ tumors

    A nodule in my goiter is deviating my trachea so to get radiofrequency ablation for that I needed a benign biopsy. I haven’t heard back in over a week so a sample was probably sent for genomic testing. The IR who did the biopsy said he thought there was a possibility of breast, thyroid, esophageal, myeloma or some other cancer caused by the radiation and wished me luck on my “medical mystery tour.” I have another MRI in a month to see if that hip lesion has grown. My MO doesn’t want to treat until she knows what is going on even though my white blood cell count is sky high. It could be something else causing inflammation.

    If the Signatera picked up your bc ctDNA the Kisqali and letrozole should help. At least you are doing something. I’m just hoping that I trend towards the low probabilities since all these problems from radiation had a 0.1% chance of occurring. I hope you get some answers soon. I feel better knowing I have company.

  • newfmamainoregon
    newfmamainoregon Member Posts: 7

    @maggie15 Thank you for sharing your story. Oh my goodness, what you have been through is criminal. Thank you for the insight on the FES PET. MO said a CT scan would most likely pick up something in the liver if necessary (hmmm). I was very angry that I was not informed about the risks of radiation. Isn’t it special to be part of the 0.1% group?

    Unfortunately, the C4/6 Inhibitors have a risk of pneumonitis and pulmonologist said Letrozole could also trigger the RIOP. I pray that the pulmonary fibrosis isn’t lurking as I also have skin/tissue fibrosis in the chest area. Sigh….
    I hope you also can get answers and have a plan.