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  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    BTW Chevy u assume cuz u think it's funny it will be funny to others, well u'r assumption is right. So cute.

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    camillegal Posts: 15,710

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  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Posts: 8,178

    Ok Sas, just say where and when to re post that pic of us. Wanted to get a pic of you and Spookie last week, forgot. 

    Did you get the car swap taken care of?

  • Enerva
    Enerva Posts: 2,985

    ohh I love the tomatoes pictures I feel bad for your shoes lol 

    Sass I love the pictures idea, I am sure it will make her happy to see us all.  ;) 

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Posts: 1,418

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    Good Morning, 

    Susan, photos of your tomato toss are fantastic. I googled it & found out that it is popular in Spain.

    Blessings, feeling better? I hope you are healing & taking it easy.

  • Enerva
    Enerva Posts: 2,985

    for all off you.

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  • susan3
    susan3 Posts: 2,631

    welcome 3rd !!!!!!  I have gotten some sleep relief ..thanks...my internist is working with me. Went off of all meds, except chemo of course, but I guess that is a treatment not a med, anyway, found out when I went off of my nighttime Ativan, the restless leg went away. With that gone, sleeping is easier...not great...but certainly better. The doc had me stay on Vicodin for the all over pain. Just take one a day. She said everything that is out there is addictive for fibro, and has side effects .....so since one Vicodin helps, and I have no side effects on it, that we will stay the course right now. The med that isn't addictive, screws with your body chemistry...that would not be good with reading the blood draws.  Hope u stick around, these ladies r great !!!!! I am pretty new here too...and they are nice to the newbies  lol

    Off to chemo today . We will see if I am changeling or testing...neck is killing me today. Just got rid of a migraine from it. 

    Yes the tomato throw was a blast....didn't know that earlier that day in a suburb they had the running with the bulls !!!!!!!!!! How could I have missed that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Wouldn't that have been the coolest ever ???

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  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Posts: 2,484

    Cami - you have turned into quite a whitty person - owl of you ladies. Hoot Hoot.

    3TN - Stephanie - I'll be the 1st to shorten it. Welcome to this thread. Remember you from Middle-Aged Women.

    Sassy - I think what you envision is kinda what happens on Middle-Aged Women. We've given an "alien" party when the thread founder had a DaVinci excision. It was a hoot for her and I had a blast looking for alien party pics. Not that I'm suggesting that but there is so much stuff out there. I only learned when posting on BCO how to get images of things, ideas. Before it was hit or miss if I found what I wanted. Anything to make Fierce's day better.

    Susan - are there lots of spare tomatoes in Illinois? I read this on the recipe thread. It is common in the NE to have a spare stove in the basement to cook down marinara sauce. Could the spare tomatoes be related to the Italian heritage in Illinois also?

    Well now we're under flash flood watch starting in the morning. Must admit that's what it's going to take to fill up the lakes. I -ha ha- found a turkey breast buried in the freezer. I think with our low 80s I'm going to get that outta there. DD is coming Sat. and I'm sure she'd take some off our hands.

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  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Posts: 15,889

    I'll wait for a bit to get more feedback, but it seems like a very workable thingy.

    Spookie, Car thing--yes Toyota Seinna. 2014 . The most expensive car seat ever. The drive home didn't cause any of the problems that the drive there did. Re: pics. The pic you took of Philly, you, and I were the only pics we got when she was here. 

    Paws how much did it cosT? Poor  accuracy now , but it's a beginning. :)

  • susan3
    susan3 Posts: 2,631

    sasssssss, sory I didn't respond to your idea..absolutely fabulous !!!!!!!!!! You r the best :)  you have to get a picture of yourself with some sort of " leader" hat...you r our great and powerful leader...lol

    Luvmygoats, I don't think there is an abundance of tomatoes. It's a Spanish tradition...not sure why. Chicago  takes the money and donates it, or buys food, and donate the food. So it is a charity event :)

  • 3rdtimenow
    3rdtimenow Posts: 126

    Thanks for the welcome, ladies.

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Posts: 8,950

    hey SAS. Your idea sounds fantastic. 

    I was thinking a card party because everyone likes to get a card in the mail. It's a surprise , you can actually touch the cards and display them to remind fbb & hubby that we care. And with all of us sending cards she would probsbly get at least 1-2 a day for many days. However I am a newbie so I  am leaving this up to you. Your idea sounds so much better.  That's why we look to you , right.  

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Posts: 1,418

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    3rd timer !

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    Welcome little 3333333333333!  You would THINK you would get the hang of this after 33333333 TIMES, and I'm sorry..... and I just hope you stay with us.  

    I guess I just don't understand what you went through....  And did you have a Lumpectomy after a mastectomy?    I'm trying my BEST to not go down that road again, so I was just wondering....   We will all help you....  maybe nothing medical, but with everything else!  Winking

    See, Cammi and I tease each other all the time.... so don't pay any attention to a word she says.... that's even IF you can understand them..... that's another problem.....

    And yes Sass!  That's a good idea.... What was it again?  You mean another thread, or cards, or pictures, or WHAT?????????????  Cammi, do you understand all of this?

    And for whom?  I forgot already.....

  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Posts: 1,418

    Chevy, 

    You might be spending too much time with your sweet neighbor lady. We are talking about FBB....

    Can someone tell me WHY I cannot get moving? Today is D day.....one year ago today I was called into my PCP office to tell me that my biopsy was lobular cancer. I was stressed, but was confident that it was caught early and was only in that one node. I was wrong. 

    Trying to make myself go shopping for DD bday gift....She wants a kayak helmet, but can't buy that in my town....

    Have a good one.....

  • 2nd_time_around
    2nd_time_around Posts: 14,084

    good morning (here anyway) Owlettes! I am alive and well (ok, that's a stretch). I am over 5 pages behind!! So can't comment much

    Last 2 weeks very difficult. Mom in assisted living, only after trip to ER on Sunday for her (UTI). Dad is so very lost without her so I spent Monday and Tuesday with him. Came home last night to another difficult situation. 

    Gotta run, hopefully back later today.

    Happy Wednesday!

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    2nd_time_around Posts: 14,084

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    2nd_time_around Posts: 14,084

    a BCO friend this on FB:

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  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    Ah geez, HIO.....  Tell me what is "FBB".....  I'm probably that, if I knew what it was....

    We went up to take my neighbor the soup and Watermelon, but the Paramedics had been there, and we somehow MISSED it!  DH put some cookies in a bag for her, but she just didn't look good!  Her blood pressure had been 192 she said, but when we took it while we were there, it was 127!  I don't understand it....  

    Anyway, she looked terrible!  Steve was coming by to take her BACK to the Docs, which is in the Hospital somewhere....  I don't know what they can DO!  I wish they could KEEP her, until they find out this dizzy problem, that has been going on for almost 3  weeks!

    Then we walked back up with the 2-wheeler, and SLOWLY wheeled this sleeping "Pedro" 5000 pound cement statue, AND went back up for his "cactus" and  they are NOW sitting in my back garden.  

    I don't know HOW I will ever get that Saint whatever down here!  DH is ready to plant me along with the statues!  

    I'm sorry 2222222222nd!  I'm really sorry..... It's so hard on everybody......  Just take each day at a time..... I remember how my Dad missed my Mom after she passed away.  He just wanted to give up.... didn't want to eat....  They are a "couple" and one is lost without the other....  

    At least my neighbor is going to be in the same Assisted Living as her DH!  If she could just get BETTER!  She said she is dying...... And I told her, "Oh no you're not.... You're going to have to get a lot better before you can die!"......  And I made her laugh.  She is supposed to be moving in about 2 weeks.....

    I love your sayings and pictures 22222222222! 

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Posts: 2,484

    Chevy  FBB=FierceBlueBird. Neighbor may not be able to read it right or does she have a talking BP monitor? Also depends how she is holding the arm/hand, tensing. You may just have the calming touch. DH has one of those 2-headed self monitors - I hate that thing. I can never get hands in the right place anyway. I have the real kind and the wrist one as well. I used to have an oxygen meter (finger) but it broke and I never replaced it.

    Unfortunately they probably still won't keep her. Very sticky wicket on justifications for hospitalization. Steve might need to expedite her move to AL but again it will not solve all his problems. Many AL places hardly check their pts. In one my pt was free to roam and she knew not where she was but she could find room/BR/dining. Door had no alarm nor was there a greeter all the time. The place opened onto very heavy traffic intersection. Family signed they knew it when she moved in. Scared the willies outta me.

    What is 5000# Pedro statue? Is she giving away her stuff?

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    Yes, he is a HEAVY cement statue of a little Mexican guy, with his head down on his knees, snoozing... underneath this separate cactus!  I KNOW you have seen one.... But they are so heavy, I don't know HOW any normal person could maneuver him around!  

    And if we can figure out how to get St. Francis down here, THAT would be a miracle!  But when they are all gone out of that house, I will feel bad, if he has to STAY there, because he meant so MUCH to them!    Their lawn guy has a truck, so maybe he could just get some help lifting him, and get him on his truck, and get him to the back of our house!  So that's what I'll tell her...... again.  

    She can READ her BP right, and even when the Paramedics came out, it was only 162!  She said it was 192 when she woke up!  Man, I'm afraid to call.....   I KNOW she is not my problem really, but if it were one of you gals, I think I would do the same!    I am just close, and can re-assure her, even if I can't "help" her....  

    She is giving away what her family doesn't want.... but now all the REST of the family will probably come out of the woodwork....    I think maybe Steve will sell a lot of the furniture, which is quite old....   He says they will rent the house, so maybe leave some furniture there?   I don't know......   

    No, I'll just bet they won't keep her either!  And even when she moves to Assisted Living, she will STILL be the same, unless they can fix her!    I worry enough about her, and she isn't even my Mother....Scared

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

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    Oh Wow.....!  It posted!  This isn't my garden, but this is what Pedro looks like...!

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Posts: 2,484

    Too bad you don't know someone with a backhoe. Don't laugh. That's how you carry heavy stuff in the country. Or someone with a lift gate truck like does deliveries. DH had a business for a while and that truck did. Scary thing to ride up/down. That way you (collective you, not you by yourself) could roll St. Francis up in a quilt and roll him up. We got smart yesterday well DH did and loaded 3 hay bales into the cart that goes to the lawn tractor. Much easier to move. Cogitate a while on it and see if you know anyone.

    So now you'll be out rearranging all those tchotchkes in your garden to make room for Pedro and St. Francis.

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Posts: 8,178

    Lgoats. I HAD to put my mom in a nursing home, even though I had promised not to. She had some dementia? ALS a lot ifother  things. It was close to home, easy to pop in and out. They had AL PTS. There who could and did wander. They thought if they put a keypad security feature in the doors it would keep them in. They had to change the code daily, and while it kept the PTS in, visitors couldn't get in either. It was a mess. I don't know how a whole unit contains them. Had to be a better way. I still go past that facility daily, and sometimes see an "escapee". Still scares me. 

  • blessings2011
    blessings2011 Posts: 1,801

    Oh, Owlettes - miss you all!

    Trying to not spend too much time on the computer (one of the things the "Instructions" sheet warned me about: computers, TV, reading, video games - they all make your brain work harder. Mine has to rest.)

    Back feels better - pretty sure I don't have a tailbone fracture. Yay!

    Balance gets better with acupuncture, but I still use my cane just in case. Haven't fallen for a week now! (Although I did go to move the big green waste container DH left on the back porch, and for the life of me, can't figure out how I knocked it over and almost landed inside....) ***SIGH***

    Memory seems, well, back to where it was, which is pretty brain-foggy anyway. I can yak away on the phone for hours, then go to say something to DH and have no idea what it was.

    Still sleeping 12 hours a night and napping during the afternoon. Whoopeee... I'm not missing anything.... it was 107 yesterday.

    ~ ~ ~ 

    To Susan - I never did get around to posting my huge long post on Chronic Pain Management, but there is something I wanted to stress: Chronic pain is when you have an injury or a condition; it's really bad, then gets better, and the lingering pain still bothers you. It can be mild or severe; irritating, or disabling.

    There is a huge difference between ACUTE pain, such as post-surgery, post-injury, or even mets..... and CHRONIC pain, which is what I have from a crappy, degenerative spine, and what a gazillion people live with every day....

    If you are taking a narcotic pain medication for one of the above ACUTE situations, addiction is not a concern, unless you are already being treated for addiction. Then you must be closely monitored. Otherwise, the rules don't apply.

    What I learned in my ten-week Pain Management Class is that none of us will ever be completely pain free. To think we will be is just wishful thinking.

    I had an ongoing Rx for Vicodin. Kaiser changed us all to Norco, same hydrocodone, but has it has less acetaminophin -Tylenol - in it, and is less toxic to the liver.

    Anyway, if we are taking one of the narcotic (addictive) drugs just so it will take all our pain away (and it won't), we will end up taking more and more, and it will have less and less effect on our pain. These are the folks - like a family friend - who were taking 40 Vicodin a day. (Long story...) If we are taking these narcotics to remove all our pain, then yes - we are abusing the drug.

    HOWEVER - if we are taking a narcotic medication to simply dull the pain enough in order to function (get out of bed, get dressed, do our activities of daily living, etc.) then no, we are not abusing the drug, and are in very little danger of becoming addicted.

    It's all a matter of perspective and understanding.

    When my brain comes back, I'll try to post more. It's really fascinating stuff.

    I know so many of you are facing difficult situations now.... (I do lurk here) and I am sending up huge hunks of LOVE and HUGS and PRAYERS. 

    I think I hear my bed calling my name.....

    xoxoxoxo

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Posts: 2,484

    Spookie - They can put Wanderguard ankle bracelets (not like Phyllis' LOL). Automatically locks the door when pt gets within so many feet of it. These were in a true NH not AL. AL would never do that - well true "memory care" units are ALs but are built differently. Most of them use those swipe keys now to get in/out. But it is up to each facility's policy because I was in many NH that did not have it. I had to do the same thing with my mom though it was for cancer and only for a few days before she passed. This was 11 years ago and it was a "no restraint' facility (long b4 I did hospice nursing, now I know). That meant no beds with guardrails so we got her a super low bed. It turned out to be a non-issue due to how rapidly she declined. But I sure would have had a fight on my hands if she had been more active. I suspect she had some brain lesions or else just low oxygen levels. Shocked even me how quickly her mentation changed though I understood it somewhat - we were stealing her blind, etc.

    Blessings - I guess if bears can hibernate through their worst time of year you can do also. Looks like we will get an early round of storms this afternoon. DH cleaned goaties' barn today so they will have a more pleasant place to stay during the downpour - Bring It ON. Wish CA could get some too.

    Glad tailbone not broken. Hoping fuzzyheadedness is getting better. I do the exact same thing - walk to where DH is, open mouth and can't remember squat. Feel like an idiot and the look he gives me. I think I need a notepad for when he's at work. He's gone most of my functioning hours so not the best of situations and no phone calls possible unless dire emergency.

    Got on my high horse and called the newpaper about the $14 increase in our 3 month subscription. Not only did she lower it to the original rate but asked if we were senior citizens - yes by their age 55 definition. So we got an even better discount. I am not an online reader of the newpaper, just can't do it. I spend enough time sitting here on my "cushion" as my DD's kindergarten teacher called it. I don't think she could say bottom.

    Very late lunch calling my name.

  • phgraham
    phgraham Posts: 909

    Hi ladies!  I'm still hanging out here being a know-nothing.  I may qualify for the old political party that was named the "Know Nothings".  Just waiting for news and reading up on what you owlings are doing....and I STILL don't know what's going on.

    3rd - welcome aboard!  Sorry you have to be numbered.

    Bye - gotta go do something that I can pretend is useful!

    Loveyouallphyllis

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Posts: 10,258

    I just love you guys!  I promise I won't talk about my neighbor so much.....  Oh wait..... yes I will!

    We got St. Christopher home!  DH came home from the little Tavern, and said "Let's go see if we can bring the statue home!"  Oh GiVE that man another BEER!!!  Thank God! So we limp up the alley  with the 2 wheeler, and how lucky for us, her Lawn guys were there..... These guys are brutes!  

    They can't understand English, but he saw the 2 wheeler, and I motioned "come over here".... So he came and DH asked if he could help put St Christopher on the 2 wheeler!

    Well!  He picked him up, walked 2 steps, and set him down on the 2 wheeler!    I was holding my breath!  So we got him home, put him in my garden, and YES, I had to arrange all my Chotskees, or whatever, to make room, so it doesn't look like  an amusement park or something!  

    Okay..... I'll take pictures!  

    The Doctor told her she will feel BETTER when she moves, because they canNOT find anything wrong with her....  And then she tells us.... "I AIN'T MOVING!  NOT TILL I AM READY!"    So I said..." now you're not a stubborn little Dago, are you?"  And she laughed.    

    So I guess she will whenever she is ready....  The Doctor told her just to go stay a couple nights.... with Eddie.... and she said "No.... I am not a hooker!"    And we all laughed.  

    Guess she will whenever she wants to....  if she would just quit worrying about it so much....   

  • camillegal
    camillegal Posts: 15,710

    Blessings what a good explanation, Well I knew it already, but people like Chevy might not get it. I have chronic pain and take pain meds , well not everyday but most days. I don't tough it out anymore cuz I know it's always there and some days are better than others or I'm struggling to walk without falling too. I do some excercising from my chair for my legs and arms but that it, oh I do walk but not a lot. I'm not on a pity prty just stating the facts mam. LOL I hope u start feeling better very soon.

    OK Chevy where have u been, those statues have taken away some cells in u'r head U know who FBB is right away. And yes I understand some things , but I honestly don't understand what u didn't understand so both of us didn't understand that. I don't remember what it was that we didn't understand but I knew when I read it I didn''t understand it then u chimed in and said u didn't understand it either. Whatever it was. WTF am I talking about.

    Anyway I have nothing to add cuz I am boring I know, just a few phone calls today, yesterday I forgot to write down their phone numbers on a couple then one I transposed the numbers on one, why he keeps me I'm in a fuzzy place all the time, but today I dealt with a really hard customer and I got an ATTA GIRL reply. I must have sounded nice cuz in my head I sounded like a b*tch, I guess it wasn't what I said it was how I said it, as usual.