CT and Lung Nodules
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Marge, I’m glad you finally got a date for the chest CT. I hope it and your breast imaging are all good.
Scans seem to come in bunches. I have a chest CT and thyroid ultrasound on the same day in October, convenient since I will only have to make one trip for both. I asked about going to a yearly CT and was told my chance of developing some kind of cancer in my lungs was the same as someone who smokes a pack a day. I guess I'll keep up with the program. It wasn't planned but I ended up with a liver fibroscan and MRIs of the brachial plexus, brain and cervical spine within two weeks. Hopefully it's a false alarm but I have an appointment with a neurosurgeon in a couple of weeks. I have a theory that I'm a watched pot so I will never boil.
@bookworm14, I hope you are doing OK and the Itovebi is not too difficult a treatment.
Cindy, Here's hoping your lung and thyroid are keeping a low profile and the GERD treatment is helping.
I hope everyone else watching lung nodules is seeing nothing of concern.
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Hi to all, hope it's ok to post here rather than starting my own thread.
Back in June, I was hospitalized for what ultimately was treated as pneumonia (they tested for a zillion things). I had a CT of my lungs at that time, and they commented that there were small nodules that should be closely followed given my history as a 2x BC survivor. It made me greatly worried to read this, but nobody seemed very concerned at the time, including my MO. The primary focus was to finish chemo. Now that's done (yay) and I'll be moving towards radiation next, but the 3-month follow up CT is happening in early Sept and the anxiety is starting to creep back in.
What the heck is a nodule anyway? Do they come and go (any chance they were present just because of the infection)? Is there a size at which they start to suspect cancer (mine were characterized as scattered up to 5mm)? What questions should I be asking my team at this point?
I'm low-key terrified. But I'd rather understand what I'm possibly facing and deal with it than consulting Dr. Google. Thanks for any information you can provide.
Oh and again, if it's better to post in a new thread or someplace else please let me know!
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Hi @kks_rd, Welcome to the lung nodule group. A lung nodule is a dense area of lung tissue that appears like a spot or shadow on a chest CT. A nodule can be caused by a previous infection, scar tissue or inflammation, all of which are benign. Less frequently nodules are caused by cancer (lung or mets from another cancer) which is why doctors keep an eye on them. Pulmonologists have a protocol called the Fleischner guideline which recommends how often CTs to observe them should be done and when they should be biopsied. Usually a biopsy is recommended when a nodule grows to over 10 mm. Lung biopsies can be very difficult so the location is also taken into account.
If the nodule size stays about the same over the protocal time period the frequency of CTs decreases and most people don't have to continue them after a period of stability. If more nodules appear and those that were already there grow it's a warning sign. If cancer in the lungs is caught at the early nodule stage it is easier to treat.
As an aside, since you recently had pneumonia your lungs might be more susceptible to radiation damage. The CT in three months would show pneumonitis which is a relatively rare SE of rads but needs to be treated with steroids if it appears. If you develop a really bad cough for no reason let your MO or RO know. I had a cough appear later than my final (at that time) RO appointment, was treated for pneumonia/allergies by my PCP, and eventually was diagnosed by CT with pulmonary fibrosis since I had progressed beyond the pneumonitis stage. Thankfully it didn't spread into my other lung but I had no idea this could happen.
I would ask your team to be vigilant about the possibility of radiation damage because your lungs were recently inflamed. With triple negative you can't skip rads but catching a problem when it is treatable is important.
Having one more type of scan adds to the anxiety but on this thread we report our results and support each other. We also support the few who do develop mets/lung cancer. I hope your radiation goes well. Let us know how the next CT goes. We'll be cheering for you.
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@maggie15 thank you so much for this!!
I have existing heart damage from my first time around so my RO plans to try a few different positions during simulation. Hopefully such positioning spares the lungs too, but there's always scatter so is not zero risk.
I would have had no idea about the pneumonia and radiation damage risk -- sorry you went through what you did and I appreciate you sharing the 'lesson learned.' I'll definitely make sure RO knows all about the CT and my infection, I haven't seen her since January. Fortunately she's a whole-person kind of clinician.
Longer-term, yes, more scans = more anxiety. On the other hand, I've done heavy BC and GynC surveillance since my first dx 14 years ago. (Oh, and pancreatic cancer screenings, BRCA 1+ is so fun!) Hopefully once I get more comfortable with all this lung nodule stuff I can mentally put it in the same place as I do all the other surveillance.
I can't tell you how helpful your reply has been to me. Thanks! I'll update this group after the CT on 9/5.
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Welcome KKs. I think Maggie explained it well. My CT is sept 2 and diagnostic mammogram is sept 3. So we are close with our scans .
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Hi kks_rd!
I agree that Maggie15 provided a great explanation. The best thing you can do is keep up with scans and doctor appointments. Also, if you feel like something is wrong please speak up to your doctor. Advocating is the best thing that you can do in uncertain times dealing with lung nodules. If you have a pulmonologist that works close with your Onco then that is a great way to keep a close eye on things since nodules can be tricky.
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sorry for taking so long to reply. Between being sick, school starting, and my son playing football I feel like I am all over the place!
maggie15 and margecandoit,Looks like we all have some upcoming scans this month and in October. I pray and hope we all have some good news from this upcoming scans!
Maggie I hope you get positive news with your MRi and image results. I had to go last month because I could hardly walk. Luckily no cancer, just the nurses hitting my sciatic nerve with the Faslodex injections. I took almost a full seven weeks before I could turn over in bed or walk halfway normal!
Unfortunately I had to add Metformin to my drug list because the Itovebi did increase my Glucose levels (we knew that was a high probability) to almost 300. It is amazing how something like that can make you feel so dang bad! And of course with the Metformin I know have a prescription for GERD! I have a PET scan and Signatera test in October to see if the new meds are working I did do five radiation treatments to my left rib and left iliac and finished that in August. Hoping we can get me back to stable.Really ready for some fall like weather to hit us down in Louisiana!
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Hi bookworm, I’m so sorry that you ended out with sciatica. It’s terribly painful and really limits your movement. I hope the nurses are more careful with the Faslodex injections. Hopefully Metformin keeps your glucose levels in check. When I was taking long term oral steroids for RIPF I eventually had to go to insulin injections. It seems that every med has SEs requiring more meds. It’s all worth it if the Itovebi is keeping things stable.
Just got back from a visit with a neurosurgeon who was all set to operate on my cervical spine until he examined my limp right hand. He thinks the problem might be brachial neuritis caused by my long term bout of statin induced liver injury and lingering damage from rads. He ordered an EMG and referred me to a neurologist. I guess the cure is 3 to 8 years of PT. By that time I’ll be a functional lefty. There are so many weird diseases out there.
I hope Marge and kks have good scans this month and you, Cindy and I have the same in October.
Enjoy your son’s football games and some cooler weather.
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Hi all,
I had my mammagram and ultrasound done yeasterday. It came out good. My fat necrosis is getting smaller and the spot I am feeling they think it’s scar tissue but if it gets bigger to come back in. Still haven’t got my CT back. It was Tuesday’s. Thought it would show in my portal soon.
Marge
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Hi Marge,
Yay for the good mammogram and shrinking fat necrosis. Hopefully you’ll get the CT results soon, The radiologists are probably on vacation which would slow down releasing results, lol. Keep us posted.
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Hi everyone! Hope you're all doing OK today.
I just got my CT scan report in the patient portal. The overall impression reads "A few scattered pulmonary nodules, stable from prior exam. No evidence of disease progression within the chest." It also describes resolution of some nodules, "consistent with resolved atypical pneumonia," but notes 5mm and smaller nodules that remain. Whoever wrote the report did not make any specific recommendations. So this seems like overall good news, but I imagine there may be additional monitoring.
It's going to be a busy week: I have a mammogram on Tuesday, start radiation on Wednesday, and labs + a visit with my MO (who ordered the CT) on Thursday.
Sending good vibes to all you amazing people out there 😊
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Hi kks,
Great news on the CT results. Your MO will order any further surveillance scans as needed.
Good luck with radiation. If you develop a cough let the doctors know right away since pneumonitis which is a possible side effect can be treated effectively early on. Fatigue is a common SE as you probably remember. My hospital offered free acupuncture for those in active treatment. It really helped so I paid for a course of acupuncture after I had finished. Calendula ointment worked well for my skin redness and irritation. Most facilities have a recommended skin protocol.
I hope it all goes well.
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kk,
So good to hear about your CT. I am still waiting for my resolves and it hasn’t been out in my patient portal. That sucks. I see my Dr in a week so I should see it then. Am I the only one who doesn’t get this in there portal.
Marge
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Marge, It’s too bad you have to wait for your doctor’s appointment to get your CT results. My pulmo usually has something to add but It’s nice to know what the radiologist reported in advance. I hope you get good news.
Yesterday I had an appointment with a neurologist where ambient listening technology was used. AI is used to transcribe and analyze what is said to come up with notes. The appointment included a complete neurological exam with tons of measurements which were recorded in tables. One relevant factor wasn’t mentioned but compared to all the cut and paste notes that usually show up in after visit summaries it was much more accurate. I also got a portal message with a short visit summary, plan, differential diagnoses and next steps. I was skeptical about the use of AI but this seems to be an improvement.
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@margecandoit you've been waiting a long time! Sheesh! Glad your appointment is next week. Thinking of you.
@maggie15 I had a similar experience in the ED. The AI tools hold a lot of promise. I work in the IT department for a healthcare organization and we've been trying to find the right one.
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Maggie I am glad you got testing done. I tring to understand that the AI read the test or interpret what the radiologist said.
I finally got my CT in the portal. I see Dr wed.
here is what it said.
CHEST: Negative for discrete axillary, hilar or mediastinal lymphadenopathy ormass. Right IJ port catheter is in place. Negative for pleural or pericardial
effusion. There is interval decrease in centrally calcified granuloma in the
right middle lobe. Lungs otherwise clear. Negative for acute infiltrates.
ABDOMEN PELVIS: There is mild hepatic steatosis. Liver and spleen otherwise
unremarkable. Negative for adrenal mass. Kidneys unremarkable. Pancreas is
within normal limits. Bowel in the abdomen and pelvis normal in caliber.
Negative for discrete fluid collections. Negative for lymphadenopathy. Appendix normal
It doesn’t talk about my nodule. Should I have my dr go back and ask about it or is it not there any more.
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Marge, my thoracic surgeon pulls my scan up in my visit/appointment. I’d ask at the appointment about the nodule, and go from there.
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Hello all. I'm back on here from 2016/17 when I was trying to make decision on whether to do BMX after 10 yrs of Letrozole (dx 9/2005) bc originally I only had a rt lumpectomy. I was also trying to figure out how to get more screening when all I could get was mammo and I have medium dense breasts. That was probably the big thing then . I have asthma and have had some lung issues in past w I believe calcified nodules and also ascites ( scarring) at bottom of lungs. I did go for a ct and was cleared . This was about 2017 or 18 at latest. Anyway asthma Dr said I could wait to do lung X-ray (and possible ct ) for a year the last time I saw her which was mid 2023 I think. Well my asthma has been ok but wondering should I be going back to pulmonologist. I was originally sent there bc of chest x-ray around 2016 ordered by allergist to just be sure. Idk I can go back to my allergist or the pulmonologist or both. I've been doing okay w asthma for most part . I know I at least prob need to see asthma allergy specialist and they'll have me to do the chest x-ray , I'm pretty sure and could go from there. I lost my husband two yrs ago and my sister we ho is one yr younger 4 months ago so I guess I've dropped the ball on the allergies/ asthma and idk maybe the pulmonologist too. I do see my oncologist about twice a yr. but sometimes it's off a couple months. I getammograns and recently have been allowed to get MRI breast on my since my husband passed. Also a question is my MO wants to dismiss me and have me go to my PC Dr after this next check up if ok . I'm scared . I know I won't get the twice a year nanno MRI I've just recently been getting. Any advice? Good luck and hugs to all of you. My mom had this years ago so it's just tough.
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Marge, The results look good. Congrats on the mild hepatic steatosis. I recall your being upset about your liver comments right after you had worked hard to lose weight. That seems to have been successful given time. I agree with Cindy in asking your doctor about the nodule at your appointment. The granuloma which has gotten smaller might be referring to the nodule of concern but check when you have your appointment.
@momboy1020, I’m sorry for the losses of your husband and sister. It’s tough to keep on top of our own medical care when so much else is going on. It’s probably a good idea to get back on regular appointments with your asthma/allergy specialist since they can help with more aspects of your health. If that doctor finds a problem with your lungs that requires a pulmonology consult they will refer you.
Being referred back to your PCP by your MO after a period of stability is the standard of care but a bit worrying. Some family medicine providers are probably fine but I don’t have much confidence in my practice since my bc was missed for two and a half years. Having thought about this myself I would go to an ob/gyn or women’s health provider for follow up since breast cancer survivor issues would be more on their radar and part of their expertise. I hope things work out well for you.
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Maggie you are right I was. Worried about my liver I guess it’s has went to mild and I think your right that interval decrease in centrally calcified granuloma is the lung nodule we been watching. I will ask tomorrow.
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Went to the dr today. He said the granular is the nodual and there no need to do CT any more but I will be asking again in a year. He also took me off my verzenio and I am really scared. I feel like I am lossing my protection. He didn’t realize I been on it a 2.5 years. I should have been off at 2 years. I don’t know how to deal with this mentally.
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Marge, I’m glad the smaller granuloma was the nodule of concern. From what I have read the monarchE trial showed that two years of verzenio continues to provide good protection even after it is stopped. You’ll still be taking tamoxifen and your MO will continue to monitor you. Long term use of verzenio is more likely to cause side effects like blood clots, ILD and liver problems. I’m dealing with those lung problems from rads and high liver enzymes from a statin. The malfunctioning liver caused a rare neurological syndrome so my right hand and arm is numb and won’t work; hopefully another year or two of PT will bring it back per my neurologist.
It must feel like your security blanket has been taken away but I wouldn’t wish SEs like these on anyone. Breast cancer upends our previous lives. Ask your MO for a referral to a counselor who can help you talk through your fears which are real. Hugs for you.
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Thanks Maggie ,
I do see a counselor weekly. Since diagnoses watching my mom die of breast cancer and being diagnose myself is really hard for me.
You’re right though with it feeling like a security blanket.How is everyone doing?
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I’m doing good. I go in Thursday for thyroid ultrasound, to check in nodules. With a follow up with the endocrinologist immediately following that.
Lung nodules are stable. I don’t go back to the Thorasic surgeon until May of 2026. CT prior to that appointment.
Hope we’re all hanging in!
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My chest CT and thyroid US are scheduled for the last week of October. I had a nerve conduction study / electromyography test this week.The results didn’t support the latest diagnosis for my symptoms but were still abnormal. The neurologist ordered a bunch of blood and spinal fluid tests to rule things out but guesses the problem is in the cervical spine (original thought.) At this point my attitude is whatever is wrong gets diagnosed eventually so why worry until then.
Cindy, I hope your thyroid is doing OK.
Marge, I’m glad you are seeing a counselor. Hopefully stopping Verzenio didn’t change your physical health or had a positive effect.
@bookworm14 , Let us know how your PET goes. I hope your blood sugar is under control and you are enjoying football season. Autumn is my favorite time of the year.
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My chest CT showed consolidation in my right lung so my pulmo prescribed a steroid pack. I haven’t noticed any decline in my breathing and today my PCP couldn’t hear any crackles in my lungs so I’m hoping it will go away. The nodules in my left lung were pretty much the same.
My ultrasound showed that the thyroid nodule got smaller from the radiofrequency ablation, 33% by my calculations. I don’t see the thyroid surgeon until December but I think she’ll be pleased.
Next up is a lumbar puncture on Thursday. Happy Halloween!
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Sounds not too bad overall, @maggie15 ! What is the lumbar puncture for - part of your neuro workup?
Next week, I'll meet with my surgeon's NP. I've not had any real surgical complications, but this person was handling my surveillance plan in the years before my second diagnosis. I don't know if she'll continue in that role, or if medical oncology is the quarterback as they were for a few years after my first dx. There are a lot of things I'm overdue for, since treatment put the whole plan on hold. I have to put together my list of questions and concerns this weekend.
Besides wanting to be proactive about my health, it's open enrollment season. Next year my insurance will be more expensive AND the deductible is higher... I hit my out-of-pocket max early this year so I'm eager to do as much as is practical this calendar year. Sigh.
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Hi @kks_11, It's hard to know who is actually going to follow you. My hospital works on the team approach and from what I've seen they divide the workload without any real pattern, My surgeon's NP schedules my mammograms and sees me afterwards. I had been seeing a medical oncology NP until a tumor showed up in my hip and I was transferred to my MO. I've seen my RO by default a few times (he sent me to the ED when he saw my right arm.) If whomever you are seeing can't answer your questions make sure they bring in someone who can.
The lumbar puncture is part of the neuro workup. Within the past couple of months my left fingers and all toes have gone numb and my calf muscles have pins and needles. My PCP is picking the differential diagnosis of paraneoplastic syndrome (an autoimmune reaction to cancer cells.) I have gone along with the hope that the indeterminate tumor is probably benign since there is a high chance a biopsy would break break my hip but I might have to re-evaluate. Two diagnoses have been shot down so who knows what is going on.
Health insurance for next year seems to be problematical for almost everyone. My Medicare part D plan company has exited the state along with several other insurance companies. None of the seven plans left have all my meds on their formulary. Hopefully my resourceful pulmo can help with my inhaler since the $7000 it costs won't count toward my out-of-pocket limit. I hope you can get as much as possible done before the end of the year and you end up seeing a helpful provider.
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@maggie15 I'm furious for you that your inhaler doesn't count towards your out-of-pocket max... it's coming out of your pocket isn't it? (Hopefully not, maybe pulmo can help!) I know there will be more I need to do next year, and there's no doubt that at least this year I've received more coverage than I've ever paid into. But still, the expense is mindboggling at times.
Wishing you success with the lumbar! I hope it gives your team meaningful information, even if that means ruling things out.
Sending good vibes ✨️
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Maggie, before I went on Medicare (especially Part D) I was OOP $70 per albuterol inhaler. Whenever I traveled to Europe, I bought as many Ventolin inhalers (OTC in the EU) and 2% Voltaren (also OTC; only the 1% is available OTC here) as I could afford. The inhalers were about 7Euros each. Fortunately, Customs didn't flag my luggage for inspection. My Humana Part D plan lets me buy them for $20 apiece. My asthma has been so well-controlled on Singulair that I rarely use a rescue inhaler (maybe once or twice a year during allergy season or a chest cold) so I have quite a backlog (some will likely expire before I use them). I do carry one in my purse and keep one in every room I frequent.
My husband & I have had small lung nodules detected on CT scans (his after a bowel repair and mine routinely along with abdomen MRI to follow up my ocular melanoma dx). Both of ours were directly connected to coughing jags—his during mycoplasma ("walking") pneumonia and mine in 2019 when I had parapertussis and coughed like crazy for 3 weeks. His have disappeared; mine are stable. Radiologist said they are scars.
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