Afinitor/Aromasin

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  • amel_83
    amel_83 Posts: 238

    Hi, how are you ladies on this combo?

    I'm getting a rash all over my upper back and back neck...anybody else experience it? I'm wondering if it can be due to this therapy as I never had something like this before...

  • mkestrel
    mkestrel Posts: 216

    Hi amel 83. I hope the rash has improved. I don't have that but I have seen rash on the side effects list. I have sores on my lips and not healing very well. Last night bleeding lips trying to eat at a restaurant 😩 annoying and painful.

  • amel_83
    amel_83 Posts: 238

    Hi

    I just got my TC scan result and look like the meds are working. I'm so happy! Scan showed no progression and in some spots light regression.

    Markers and liver test stable.

    The onco told me in only two months of therapy he didn't expect anything better.

    No very many sides effects eather.

    I'm too too happy, I hope it will last!

    @mkestrel I hope you are doing well. How are your lips?

  • mkestrel
    mkestrel Posts: 216

    @amel_83 that's great news! I hope this continues for you. I had an appointment today and they decided to lower the dosage and stop everolimus for a couple of weeks until my mouth heals. I've been losing my taste too.

  • amel_83
    amel_83 Posts: 238

    I hope with a lower dose it will resolve.

    You are using the desametasone mouthwash right?

    They told me to do it 3 times a day, for 2 minutes each time. And not to drink or eat for a while after. It really help.

  • mkestrel
    mkestrel Posts: 216

    Thanks! Yeah I've been using the dexamethasone mouthwash I'm cutting up my food and tiny bites trying not to touch my lips, drinking through straw...

  • amel_83
    amel_83 Posts: 238

    I just wanted to say here I'm doing propolis mouth rinse. I read they were good for chemo induced mouth sores, so I tryed it out. It seem to actually work. I diluted in some water the propolis extract and rinse 2 time daily.

    Before having any new supplements I always read if they don't promote cancer or interact with my medicines, and I discovered propolis may actually have anti-cancer activity for metastatic breast cancer.

    A little update on my situation: my ALT rise to 90, so I'm quite concerned. They never been so high before, and just last month they where down to 40. So I'm afraid my third line of therapy already stopped working, after only 2 months. I dont have markers results yet, they will only give them to me next month. I hate to wait, and i hate they know the results and don't give them to me, as I usually show them to another oncologist as well. But i giess I will wait...

    Also I hope this ALT rise is due by something else than cancer, but I'm so scared it actually mean progression!

    I hope other people on this meds are doing good!

  • I just want to know what utter monster decided to flavour the gel mouthwash I’ve been given with aniseed? Bleeergh…

  • Amel, my ALP was 161 last week. Incredible but they don’t seem to be worried at the hospital.

  • amel_83
    amel_83 Posts: 238

    @emiliamarty

    So it may be due to the medicines I would think. Mine fortunately is now stable, but nobody is explaining why is high...they just told me it was ok...

    And my mouthwash is just plain bitter...terrible! Why they don't make them just slightly minty...

    Does it work for you? (other than the aniseed!)

    I have a sore on the tip of my tong that just wont go away

  • @amel_83 Same here. Tip of the tongue and some soreness on the lips. Otherwise not so bad so far…

  • Ha! I withdraw my previous breezy statement. Now on a treatment break after mouth and lips exploded in sores, and rash all over neck, shoulders and arms. Hope you’re ok, @amel_83

  • amel_83
    amel_83 Posts: 238

    @emiliamarty

    Sorry about that! Hopefully with a break thing are going to be better, and you will be able to stay on the med longer.

    I'm ok, thank you. I also have mouth sores and rushes on my upper back, neck and head. And diarrea.

    But not that severe to have a break.

    I use gentalyn beta cream (gentamicin + betametason), it work pretty well for me. Just difficult to use on scalp in between hairs...so on my head I just use it in the more critical spots.

    I also get the skin of my belly, legs and upper arms all dry white, and ittle scaly, so I have to use oil or mosturizer.

    Also the avverse effect, for some reason, arrive slowly, hit me hard, than get better, than come back again... like on a cycle.

    I read some people get better with time, hopefully we will stay better but stable, finger crossed!

    Update me when you have news please!

  • Thank you and poor you. That sounds awful. I’m back on after a week off. Using Moo Goo on arms etc. I do hope you feel better soon x

  • I'm just about to start Everolimus, having been on a variety of drugs up to now. Have mets in my spine and ribs. Reading your posts, I guess the thing I need to watch for most is mouth sores and high cholesterol?

    Thanks for the tips already.

  • amel_83
    amel_83 Posts: 238

    @rstogether

    Hi, I hope this medicine is going to work well for you, with not too many sides effects.

    For me yes, mostly mouth sores and skin rush on back and head. Annoying, but menageable!

    I eat the everolimus in a piece of wafer for medicines, not sure how it is called, than do the cortisone mouthwash, and sometimes propoli moutwash.

    For the rush I use gentalyn beta.

    I didn't din't get high colesterol.

    Best wishes

  • mkestrel
    mkestrel Posts: 216

    For the record here, I am already being switched off everolimus due to pretty rapid progression in the liver. All my markers are going way up, ctDNA Signaterra went from 6 to 60. I didn't have mouth sores after reducing the dose, and not many other major side effects. Sometimes I would get burning lips and used the dex rinse. Apparently it just didn't work on the cancer. I hope it helps others. I'm being changed to Enhertu and have to get a port....

  • beachbumblonde
    beachbumblonde Posts: 1
    edited April 28

    I have pelvic, rib and scapula mets - I've had 2 back surgeries due to degeneration - I have a numb left knee, excruciating nerve pain in my right foot with 2 toes twitching for 2 years now. I have numb fingers on my right hand and now my right arm is swollen. I am ER+, HER2-. I was on Abraxane and NED before my back surgeries in 2022, then the mets showed up. I went back to Abraxane and all was going well. Decided in Oct 2023 to try Xeloda since it was oral and a nice switch from infusion, which worked great. Oct 2024 I got 1 met which I wanted to radiate, but doc wanted me to switch to Enhurtu and was told it would not cause hair loss - "no one else on it had hair loss" was the claim - all mine fell out. It worked for 5 months then more mets. Now doc wants me to try Afinitor - but I can NOT risk any lung problems, infections or a blistered face and lips with all the other body part issues I described above. I want to go back to Xeloda with an AI or just go back to Abraxane knowing it worked for me before and didn't have NEAR the side effects I have read about with all of you describing what you are going through with Afinitor. That drug seems like a science experiment gone wrong. I am praying for all of you and so sorry you have had to deal with lung issues, rashes, swollen or blistering lips and sore throat - I just don't understand how that is supposed to give anyone quality of life. Please let me know if there is anyone out there who has had none of those side effects and has had success with no progression or actually headed towards remission. Thank you for listening and God bless all.

  • marcials1
    marcials1 Posts: 196

    hi @beachbumblonde I see this thread ended with you back in April. What is your status at this time? I hope you found something that works for you.

    To other ladies on this thread I am waiting to see if I can take Afinitor and Aromasin after 1 1/2 years on Verzenio and Letrozole. @mkestrel I did see your comment on being pulled off already. I notice not much activity on this thread and hope you are all holding your own and having the best life we can have. I did have only bone mets in hip, pelvic bones, spine, ribs and skull. “Only” might not be the right word! But at least was contained to bones. I had very little progression but suddenly it metastasized to soft tissue. Possibly peritoneum and colon and now maybe liver. I am having some bladder issues and now rising liver enzymes for some reason before even starting the new medication. Waiting for liver MRI. I know a clean liver is an absolute necessity to be on Afinitor. So I have some concerns other than all of the other lovely side effects. Just wondering if anyone had liver problems on this medication. I was a big wine drinker until a few years ago so I have some concerns.

    Need to update my profile: orig dx 2013 hr+ her2- lobular. Double mastectomy. No treatments at all. Metastasized to bones 2024. Verzenio and Letrozole. Zometa every 3 months. Progressesion to soft tissue 8/2025. Boooooo hiss!

    Any comments good bad or otherwise are appreciated. Best to you all!

  • @marcials1 - I've been on Afinitor and Aromasin since Nov 2024. I have bone mets, and a small liver spot we are watching. I have thankfully (luckily?) had no side effects from either, except for a very few hot flashes from the aromasin. I'm prone to mouth issues, so my onc. thought I might get mouth sores from the Afinitor, but nothing. My tumor markers (CA-15.3) have just started to rise, in the last month and a half. I have a PET scan at the end of the month, and hoping it won't show any changes, so I can stay on these drugs. I MUCH prefer oral meds to injections, since I live on an island and have to ferry to the clinic (a full on day trip). I too was a big wine drinker, and though I've cut down tremendously and I'm still having a glass now and then, but it does cross my mind that wine & my liver don't mix. I did take Letrozole when this whole MBC started, I was on if for about a year before it stopped working. I didn't have any side effects from it either.

  • marcials1
    marcials1 Posts: 196

    thanks @rstogether. That makes me a bit more optimistic. Hopefully I will get cleared to get on that soon. I hope you get to stay on it too. I know once we get accustomed to a med we want to stay on it as long as possible. I wish you the best with your PET scan. I prefer oral meds also. I had the option to do a clinical trial with chemo but turned it down. I do go every 3 months for Zometa infusions and that is tolerable. Living on an island sounds great! But I guess has its pros and cons? I am done with Letrozole now too. I’m just out in the wild - free of meds until I start on the Afinitor and Aromasin. I feel great but I know that crap is growing in my body. I don’t have the taste for wine anymore so that made it easy for me to quit. An occasional margarita was nice for awhile but those are history too. I hope you continue to enjoy that occasional wine. We need some balance through all of this.

  • marcials1
    marcials1 Posts: 196

    hi @rstogether just checking in to see how you are doing. I am doing surprisingly well on Everolimus (Afinitor). Hope all is well with you too.

  • Hi @marcials1 I'm doing well, I guess. The everolimus seems to be 'failing' me. My CA15-3 has been climbing, and my last PET scan showed progression in my spine and liver. I will be having a liver biopsy next week, in hopes they can better identify the cancer, and change treatment. Not sure what the next steps/drugs will be. Loathe to go back on IV chemo. Everolimus has been good to me! No side effects that I am aware of, and so nice not to have to travel because of the oral meds. So, fingers crossed for me! Thanks for asking.

  • marcials1
    marcials1 Posts: 196

    I’m sorry to hear that @rstogether. Are you on 10 for Everolimus? I’m on 7.5 but bet will be upped to 10. I’ll find out Tuesday if it is working. I am guessing it is not working but not sure. Have not seen tumor markers in 2 months. I may be going to chemo also. Not sure so shouldn’t jump the gun. Fingers are definitely crossed for you!

  • norah2024
    norah2024 Posts: 92

    hi all


    In a few days, I will be joining this thread after my doctor decided to stop my current treatment

    Kisqali + Faslodex

    and switch to Afinitor + Aromasin.

    Because of progression

    My doctor advised me to leave a 7-day gap between Kisqali and Afinitor.

    However, my medication has been delayed, and I might not receive it within this period.

    From your experience with this treatment, how many days can I safely stay without therapy before starting the new regimen?”

  • marcials1
    marcials1 Posts: 196

    Hi @norah2024 welcome to this thread. I had 3 weeks of no treatment when I switched from Verzenio & Letrozole to Afinitor & Aromasin. It was due to communication and delivery issues. So 3 weeks no meds. I have been on this now since late Sept and so far so good. Minor improvements. PET this week and bloodwork next. So fingers crossed again that still improving.
    Side effects have not been terrible. They took their time appearing. But nothing that cannot be dealt with. Good luck and keep us posted please.

  • norah2024
    norah2024 Posts: 92

    @marcials1

    Thank you for your reply.

    I am waiting for the responses eagerly because they give me an idea of what I am heading towards.

    What you said reassured me about the period between the doses, because I really started to worry. I had pneumonia in October and had to stop the medication for a whole month.

    However, I do not attribute the progression of the disease to this gap, because my markers had started rising months ago without a clear explanation from the tests I had done.

    Thank you for sharing your experience! I’m glad to hear things are going well for you and that the side effects have been manageable. Fingers crossed 🤞 for your PET and bloodwork results—hoping for continued improvements! I’ll definitely keep you posted on my journey as well. Wishing you continued strength and good results
    Also, wishing you a peaceful and joyful holiday season! 🎄Hope you get some well-deserved rest and moments of happiness amidst everything.

  • marcials1
    marcials1 Posts: 196

    I’ll let you know how it goes with PET. I’ll see my results probably Friday but will meet with oncologist Tuesday. So I’ll probably be getting the usual anxiety. Trying to be positive. It’s always something isn’t it?

    Oh and this line of therapy doesn’t seem to be as known or taken by as many as the others like verzenio, kesquali, etc. so getting no other input isn’t completely surprising. I was hoping you’d hear from at least one other though! What is latest on when you expect to start new regime?

    I hope your holidays are good to you! We deserve some joy!

    Chat soon!

  • @marcials1

    You’re always so thoughtful to update me.🧡

    I really hope your PET goes smoothly and that the results on Friday bring some calm before your appointment on Tuesday. I know exactly what you mean about the “usual anxiety”… it never really gets easier, but I’m glad you’re trying to stay positive. I’m right there with you.

    By the way, after you finish your PET scan, do they usually give you the CD right away? I always get mine immediately after the scan, but I never have the courage to open it. I wait for the official report, even though I have a good viewer for PET scans and I can usually read bone and node progression. It’s just the organs that I can’t interpret.

    As for me, I’ll be receiving my medication tomorrow afternoon, which means I’ll start it the day after. My doctor advised me to take Afinitor  45 minutes after breakfast. But for the Aromasin, he didn’t tell me how or when to take it, so I still don’t know whether it’s better in the morning or in the evening.

    And yes, this treatment line really isn’t as common as Verzenio or Kisqali, so it makes sense that there aren’t many people to compare notes with. I was hoping someone would respond to you too. Please keep me posted once you know more.

    I hope the holidays are gentle with you too. We really do deserve a little joy after everything.

  • norah2024
    norah2024 Posts: 92

    hi everyone

    This is an update on my condition after using Afinitor and Exemestane.

    Today is the second day since I started taking the medication.

    I have made a daily schedule for myself with the timing of each medication:

    • Breakfast and coffee from 9:00 to 9:30 am
    • Omeprazole for the stomach at 10:00 am
    • Afinitor at 10:30 am
    • Gargling with Magic Mouthwash twice daily: at 11:00 am and before bedtime at 9:30 pm (gargling with salty water in between)
    • Exemestane one hour after dinner, at 7:00 pm
    • Cholesterol medication at 9:00 pm

    Side effects so far include pain at the back of the mouth, a tingling sensation, and discomfort in the throat, with a constant feeling of irritation.

    Today at 4:00 pm, I felt mild nausea and a lack of appetite. I don’t know whether this will continue until dinner time.

    I will continue to write my notes from time to time, hoping they may benefit others who are on this medication.

    My appointment with the doctor is ten days after starting the medication to do blood tests: CBC, cholesterol, and blood sugar.

    I hope everything remains stable until I see the doctor.

    I do not like this medication, and I do not feel comfortable with it at all. I haven’t formed any kind of “friendship” with it yet.

    Unlike Kisqali and Faslodex—with them, I did not experience many side effects, I got used to them, and a close friendship developed between us, if I may put it that way.