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Topic: If 93% survival rate at 5 yrs - why do the 7% perish?

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Posted on: Feb 7, 2015 09:42PM

rleepac wrote:

Just curious because everyone keeps telling me there is a roughly 93% success rate for my stage (IIb) and that makes me very happy to hear! But I'm just curious what happens to the other 7%? Do they bump up to a higher stage? Do they have complications from surgery or chemo? Do they opt out of some treatment?

Any thought?

Bekah 1/6/15: Excisional biopsy 2.1 cm IDC in axillary tail, Age 42 at diagnosis. Dx 1/6/2015, IDC, Right, 2cm, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 1/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2+ (IHC) Surgery 1/6/2015 Lumpectomy; Lymph node removal Chemotherapy 3/5/2015 AC + T (Taxol) Targeted Therapy 4/30/2015 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Targeted Therapy 4/30/2015 Perjeta (pertuzumab) Surgery 8/18/2015 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 11/13/2015 Reconstruction (left): Fat grafting, Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Fat grafting, Silicone implant Hormonal Therapy 11/18/2015 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery 3/28/2016 Reconstruction (left): Fat grafting, Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Fat grafting, Silicone implant Surgery 9/8/2016 Reconstruction (left): Fat grafting, Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Fat grafting, Silicone implant
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Jul 15, 2017 10:31AM VL22 wrote:

I'd also be careful implying that TN and HER+ make up the unfortunate 7

Dx 5/5/2017, IDC, Right, <1cm, Stage IB, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 6/14/2017 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Dx 6/23/2017, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IB, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 7/23/2017 AC + T (Taxol)
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Jul 15, 2017 10:38AM - edited Jul 15, 2017 06:00PM by VL22

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Dx 5/5/2017, IDC, Right, <1cm, Stage IB, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 6/14/2017 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Dx 6/23/2017, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IB, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2- Chemotherapy 7/23/2017 AC + T (Taxol)
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Jul 15, 2017 04:49PM - edited Jul 15, 2017 06:31PM by Traveltext

Thanks for posting that link Beesie.

I can see that the death rate in men in 2004 was 0.29 and in 2014 it was also 0.29

Better news for women, in that the death rate in 2004 was 24.49 and in 2014 it was 20.55

Note: All races, and rates are per 100,000 people.

From the same source: 2014 death rates for black males twice that of white males, and 2014 death rate for black women, 30% higher than for white women.

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The latest research I've seen comparing sexes shows median overall survival from diagnosis is 5 years for males (95% CI, 4.1-5.9 years) and 10 years for females (95% CI, 7.8-12.2 years; P < .001).

SOURCE

As I see it, low awareness that men get this disease means later diagnosis and poorer prognosis. It's time for the pink charities to lift their game on both awareness and research for men.

Have breast & prostate cancer. NED both. More on Male BC

Dx 06/14, IBC, L. 2cm, S IIIB, G 2B, ER+/PR+, HER2- FEC x3, Taxol x3

Mx & 2/23 nodes 07/14

Rads x 33 09/14 and now on Tamox

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Jul 17, 2017 07:37PM Fiddler wrote:

it's not very realistic to go by these stats which just throw everything (I.e, all types) together. For instance, I am stage 2a but my doctor told me I have a 20-25% chance of recurrence. He based this on MY personal situation:size of tumour, grade of tumour and the fact that I am HER2 positive. It's annoying to me to see these statistics because then people think that if you have "early" stage cancer you're going to be perfectly OK. To me a 20-25 percent chance of recurrence is nothing to sneeze at and will be something I worry about for the rest of my life

Alana Dx 6/24/2016, IDC, Left, 3cm, Stage IIA, Grade 3, 0/2 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2+ Surgery 8/8/2016 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Chemotherapy 9/26/2016 Cytoxan (cyclophosphamide), Taxotere (docetaxel) Targeted Therapy 10/17/2016 Herceptin (trastuzumab) Radiation Therapy 12/27/2016 Whole-breast: Breast
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Jul 17, 2017 11:09PM Traveltext wrote:

Yes, that's true Fiddler. And often a prognosis that doctors provide patients is based on older stats when treatments were not as good. But, any chance of a recurrence is a worry and I'm certainly in your boat percentage wise.


Have breast & prostate cancer. NED both. More on Male BC

Dx 06/14, IBC, L. 2cm, S IIIB, G 2B, ER+/PR+, HER2- FEC x3, Taxol x3

Mx & 2/23 nodes 07/14

Rads x 33 09/14 and now on Tamox

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