Topic: Anyone else work in a school and afraid to go back?

Forum: All things COVID-19 or coronavirus — A place to discuss the impact of COVID-19 (Coronavirus) on you and the ones you love.

Posted on: Jul 21, 2020 02:02PM - edited Sep 23, 2021 03:22AM by Mavericksmom

Posted on: Jul 21, 2020 02:02PM - edited Sep 23, 2021 03:22AM by Mavericksmom

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Jul 21, 2020 10:01PM bcincolorado wrote:

Both of my children are teachers. My son also has 4 kids who will all be in school as well. My daughter-iin-law in an onco RN. They are all terrified.

My daughter ln Wyoming and works in a small town where distancing is easy for them in their classes at least.

My son teaches in a smaller school but distancing may NOT be an option for them and they live near a big city and DIL works at a major hospital.

It sounds like both districts plan on doing a combination of classroom and distance learning with maybe reduced time in the classroom and then also doing online instruction as well.



Dx 8/2009, IDC, Left, 5cm, Stage IIA, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 1/1/2010 Mastectomy (Left): Nipple Sparing; Reconstruction (Left): Tissue Expander Surgery 1/7/2010 Lumpectomy; Lumpectomy (Left); Lymph node removal; Lymph node removal (Left) Hormonal Therapy 1/15/2010 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Hormonal Therapy 1/30/2016 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy 1/1/2020
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Jul 23, 2020 11:17PM Mominator wrote:

I am a special education paraprofessional. I work in Kindergarten in a Pre-K to grade 8 school (about 350 students total).

Our Board of Education had a Zoom meeting to inform us of what school will look like in September. BOE is planning for back to school, in person classes with lots of safety measures: masks on everyone, desks 6' apart, gallon-sized hand sanitizer everywhere, temperature checks, changes in schedules so less people in hallways, etc. There will be no shared materials (pens, pencils, iPads).

They are also building in "mask breaks" during the day. Lunch will be in the gym, with a special table set-up, assigned seats, Plexiglas barriers. There will be other breaks as well, such as teaching outdoors sitting more than 6 feet apart.

Also, there will be parallel, virtual teaching as well. About 25% of parents said that they would be keeping their children home in September. These students will be taught similar to what we did for March-June. Teachers in the building will be focusing on their students. Virtual teachers will be getting a special stipend to be the virtual teacher for a grade. A teacher may do the virtual during their breaks, prep time, before/after school time, or another teacher may be the virtual teacher.

The school is planning that if "Johnny" comes to school in September, and then if his family needs to quarantine for 2 weeks, Johnny will be then switch to the virtual teaching class. The virtual class will be taught at the pace as the in school class. At the end of quarantine, Johnny comes back to school, again at the same place as his peers.

We shall see.

Mominator, BRCA2+, STK-11 VUS. My Mom dx DCIS age 62, ILC stage IIIA age 79; Mom passed 2/28/18. My Grandmother died of ovarian cancer age 48. Friend to Lori M, passed 5/25/16. Surgery 11/11/2015 Prophylactic mastectomy: Left, Right; Prophylactic ovary removal; Reconstruction (left): Tissue expander placement; Reconstruction (right): Tissue expander placement Surgery 1/18/2016 Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Surgery 6/30/2017 Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant
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Jul 24, 2020 12:29AM Mavericksmom wrote:

Mominator, I am so sorry that your mother, grandmother and friend battled cancer, and that you had to go through so many major surgeries to try to prevent it from happening to you!

As for school opening, at least kindergarten students aren’t passing the disease like older students, but how can anyone avoid close contact with them? They are little and many will have increased separation anxiety! I simply don’t get it. Whoever thinks in-school learning is going to be so much better, has never worked in a school, let alone one under pandemic conditions! I wish all school was virtual until there are enough effective vaccines and drugs to fight this!

I am also a special education paraprofessional, in a middle school. I don’t know if I will have a job in the fall. If they go to on-line school, I don’t think they will use us like they did in the spring. No one knows what is happening in September because the status of the virus changes daily. The only thing for certain is they won’t get the funding to operate as they did other years. So many don’t have jobs and can’t pay their taxes. All the extra safety equipment costs a lot of money. Less income and more expenses. It’s a catch 22!

Just so much we don’t know about this virus! I have never been so stressed or so afraid to work in a school!

Both my husband and I are revising our wills. I don’t think life will ever be back to the old normal

Dx 6/6/2003, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/24 nodes, ER+/PR+ Dx 12/4/2018, ILC, Left, 1cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2-,
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Jul 25, 2020 12:46PM Mavericksmom wrote:

Another large, highly respected, district near me, just made the decision not to go back to the building in any form until after Sept 29th. From normal Sept start date, until the 29th, all schooling will be on-line learning only. Then it will go to either parent choice of continued in home learning only or a hybrid choice where half students go in the buildings on M/T, all on -line on Wed. and other half Th/F in school.

I think that is smart as it gives time to see what the spread in this area is like at that time.

I still think it is ironic that no one is talking about how substitutes will fit into the in-the-building concept? My district couldn't get enough subs in a normal school year, how is this going to change now? Oh well, that is way above my pay grade to figure out.

Dx 6/6/2003, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/24 nodes, ER+/PR+ Dx 12/4/2018, ILC, Left, 1cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2-,
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Jul 25, 2020 12:58PM spookiesmom wrote:

Our schools normally start the first week in August. Some districts have pushed it back to the last week. Our superintendent is still farting around with the date. Yeah, welcome to Florida

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Jul 25, 2020 01:00PM spookiesmom wrote:

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Jul 26, 2020 01:29PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

I teach first grade. I have been teaching with stage IV bc for the last nine years! The first thing I’d like to clear up is a comment someone made earlier. Most public school teachers are not highly paid nor do we “make the big bucks”. Relative to educational requirements for obtaining a teaching credential in most states, we are not highly paid. So yes, we make more than aides or para-professionals, but if making the big bucks is your goal, don’t become a teacher. Onwards... My district is starting with distance learning and has plans for using a staged return to slowly move us back to the classroom as health and safety conditions merit. Using available funds and grants , the district is purchasing PPE for all staff.

I want to be in the classroom with my students, everyone wants that but not until themany unknowns about Covid, children, and transmission risks are better understood. Many of my colleagues, myself included, spent the summer working on how to make distance learning more robust. We focused on essential standards, take home supply boxes so all students will have what they need (from iPads to crayons!) to start school. Over the next two weeks, I am taking several courses to help me learn to use all of my online teaching tools most effectively. I have also participated in focus groups with parents to understand their concerns and find ways to support them. I have taken additional workshops on social emotional learning as well as this will be important. This not so highly paid teacher did this all without being paid because my sole aim is to deliver the best possible academic program to my students under highly unusual circumstances.

I am very thankful that my school district valued the opinions of all stakeholders and recommendations of our county health department In making their decision. It will not be perfect but it’s the right thing to do.

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Jul 26, 2020 05:20PM Mavericksmom wrote:

Exbrnxgrl, obviously you took issue with my “highly paid teacher” comment. I don’t know what you think is highly paid, but all the teachers I work with, in my age bracket with 30 years experience like I have, are making $130,000 to $150,000. I am a paraprofessional and lucky to make $26,000. So yes, to me they are highly paid! I gave up my job doing research for a major pharmaceutical company and started working in the school because I wanted to be available for my kids when they started school. Money wise, I was a fool to switch jobs, but I traded money for memories and time with my children, especially in the summer, and that is priceless! I love the students I work with and I KNOW I make a difference in their lives or I would have quit years ago! My comments were not meant as a negative towards teachers but to explain my situation. I am sorry If you aren’t making “big bucks!

I battled cancer twice while working at the school and am high risk for Covid due to age and other health issues.

Your other comments were very interesting to me. I expect to be furloughed or go back to half student population. I won’t know for several weeks as no definitive decision has been made. I too want to get back with my students. Having half the students with PPE ( gloves, masks, and face shields) isn’t ideal, but I will do it if that is what the school board decides.

Dx 6/6/2003, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/24 nodes, ER+/PR+ Dx 12/4/2018, ILC, Left, 1cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2-,
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Jul 26, 2020 06:09PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

I am a long term teacher who is at the upper end of the salary range but it took a long time to get there. I live and work in Silicon Valley, one of the most expensive places to live in the US. But most of our newer teachers are struggling mightily to make ends meet and have little hope of buying a home here unless they have a partner making quite a bit more money. Public school teachers are not getting rich no matter how long they've worked. Remember that salaries are only relevant when compared to the cost of living in a given area. $130,000. may sound like a lot but it's not in Hawaii or California for example. It also took many years to get there. Check out teacher salaries at year 10 or 15. Not quite that high! On the first day that my daughter went to work for Apple, she made just about what I was making after years of teaching and now makes far more.

I'm not sure what our aides will be doing this year. Some, who are one to one aides for SPED students, may be able to provide remote support. During our differentiated reading time, I teach a group that has two instructional aides but since we won't be following that model online, I hope my district finds something for them to do until we return to the classroom. I never imagined that this is how my beloved career would end (will most likely retire after this year). Education is my passion so I'll have to find an outlet for it post-retirement. Ed law fascinates me so maybe I can find some kind of advocacy volunteer work.

I am taking care of my daughters cat this week. I am so desperate to introduce some bright and curious minds to all the wonders of the world that I might start trying to teach the cat to read 😉.

Anyway, best of luck to all of us and I hope each of your school districts err on the side of caution.

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Jul 26, 2020 06:27PM bcincolorado wrote:

Son called last night and his district still has not decided what to do.

He is also the head football coach as well and of course fall sports are at up in the air as well.

His kids are anxious to go to school including the youngest who was looking forward to starting kindergarten this year with "the big sibllings" said. Now that may not happen either and they'll end up doing online teaching at home again or a hybrid.

Some of our districts are doing 2 days in the classroom spaced apart and 3 at home online but parents can opt to do all online if you want as well.

Dx 8/2009, IDC, Left, 5cm, Stage IIA, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 1/1/2010 Mastectomy (Left): Nipple Sparing; Reconstruction (Left): Tissue Expander Surgery 1/7/2010 Lumpectomy; Lumpectomy (Left); Lymph node removal; Lymph node removal (Left) Hormonal Therapy 1/15/2010 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Hormonal Therapy 1/30/2016 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy 1/1/2020

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