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Posted on: Jul 21, 2020 01:02PM - edited Sep 23, 2021 02:22AM by Mavericksmom

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Mar 14, 2021 01:23PM - edited Sep 23, 2021 02:22AM by Mavericksmom

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Mar 14, 2021 05:00PM flashlight wrote:

Mavericksmom, Being afraid and anxious is not good for your health either. I'm glad you and your husband received the vaccine and you have less anxiety! Trusting the children to do a good job disinfecting is probably a mistake. Even if you are having positive cases I'm sure they aren't as sick as in the beginning of covid, especially the teenagers. Do you really know if they are out because they were exposed to someone or if they have mild symptoms and are recovering well? I'm sure that isn't reported. The unknowns is what makes us all afraid. I hope you continue to do well. In nursing it is the facts, safe routines/practices, and universal precautions that keep us safe. We will get through this. I feel the dark days are way behind us. Keeping the children out of the classroom is not the answer. Maybe those teachers and staff who think so need to rethink their careers. Best wishes.

Dx 11/15/2018, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Dx DCIS, Left, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes Radiation Therapy Whole-breast Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery Lumpectomy: Left
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Mar 14, 2021 05:59PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

I have to say that I was surprised that students are cleaning their own areas. I have half my class in the morning and half in the afternoon with a 90 minute break in between. Our custodians clean the rooms between am and pm and use one of those fog spray types of machines.

I disagree that teachers and staff who are not feeling safe should find a different career. There are some careers where you understand that the nature of your job may result in injury or death but teaching is not one of them! I have had virtually no fear of returning to the classroom (I couldn’t wait!) but I know quite a few staff members who were/are very fearful. My district has worked hard to accommodate everyone, both staff and students. About 30% of our families still don’t feel comfortable coming back yet so teachers who are not comfortable coming back are providing distance learning for those students. No need to rethink careers, just a need to think outside the box. Again, while I have no personal fear, we need to respect those who do and not simply say that they need to find another career. Hopefully, when the new school year arrives, we can go back to some semblance of normal. I am retiring after this year, unrelated to the pandemic, but I will be subbing at some point and look forward to that too.

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Mar 14, 2021 07:55PM - edited Sep 23, 2021 02:22AM by Mavericksmom

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Mar 14, 2021 08:14PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

I hear you , mavericksmom! As to those who don’t report a positive COVID test, does your county do contact tracing? I don’t think there are any/many in my district who have tested positive but not informed the district due to diligent contact tracing. Of course, they could lie but I think that is not a widespread problem. We did have a kindergarten class sent home last week because someone tested positive. We don’t know if it was a student or an adult due to HIPPA (sp?) laws, which I am fine with. I get my second vaccine next Wednesday and my district has a plan in place if a teacher is feeling unwell after a vaccine. Most of my district will be fully vaccinated by the end of next week since almost all of us had our vaccines during the first week we were eligible. I suppose we could have a lot of absences of too many feel unwell.

I am glad that Zoom exists, but I don’t think it’s great, long term, for most students. However we should never force staff or students back to school if they feel unsafe. Next school year will likely be a different story but despite vaccines, we still can’t say we have the virus under control, not yet.

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Mar 25, 2021 03:05PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

As of late yesterday, I am fully vaccinated

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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May 30, 2021 05:15PM - edited Sep 23, 2021 02:22AM by Mavericksmom

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May 30, 2021 10:15PM bcincolorado wrote:

I am glad you made it through the year. My daughter and son are teachers and both were terrified all year as well. May next year be better for all.

Dx 8/2009, IDC, Left, 5cm, Stage IIA, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 1/7/2010 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Left Hormonal Therapy 1/15/2010 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Hormonal Therapy 1/30/2016 Femara (letrozole)
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Jun 1, 2021 09:12PM kksmom3 wrote:

I am done in 3 more days. We have dropped the mask mandate. I am still wearing it thru the end though, in support of some students whose parents need them to. I'm in kindergarten, so it's definitely up to their parents. Fully vaccinated as of last March, thank God I didn't get covid. I still wonder what next year will look like.

Dx 8/8/2018, DCIS/IDC, Right, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 10/1/2018 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 10/29/2018 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes
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Jun 1, 2021 10:11PM - edited Jun 1, 2021 10:12PM by exbrnxgrl

I only have three more days as well and I'm done...forever. I will be retiring and although I know it's the right time for me, I am going to miss it so much! I will eligible to sub starting in January and am looking to sub 2-3 days a week. I will also be picky about who I sub for and will only take jobs by request in advance. No, I'm not being bratty but there is a severe sub shortage so I have the upper hand ✋.

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Jun 2, 2021 06:30PM Pi-Xi wrote:

I have three weeks left with students but we are on remote right now and have been for two weeks as our government created the worst wave of the pandemic yet and we are now the worst spot in North America. Still, they are considering sending us back on Monday. 😱

Oncotype 12 Dx 4/7/2016, DCIS, Left, 2cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, ER+/PR+ Surgery 7/11/2016 Mastectomy: Left; Prophylactic mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Dx 8/3/2016, DCIS/IDC/IDC: Papillary, Left, 1cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 8/31/2016 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Jun 13, 2021 06:20PM Pi-Xi wrote:

Got my second vaccine dose today. Heading back to in-person work with very small numbers of students at the end of the week. Can't wait for the end of this school year.

Oncotype 12 Dx 4/7/2016, DCIS, Left, 2cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, ER+/PR+ Surgery 7/11/2016 Mastectomy: Left; Prophylactic mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Dx 8/3/2016, DCIS/IDC/IDC: Papillary, Left, 1cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 8/31/2016 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Jun 13, 2021 06:48PM - edited Sep 23, 2021 02:23AM by Mavericksmom

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Jun 16, 2021 08:34PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

We got a wonderful surprise on Tuesday. The school board voted to give a $1,000. Bonus to all members of my union (those holding professional credentials). I hope they gave bonuses to the employees who belong to another union as our support staff is the foundation upon which we all walk and you know what happens if your foundation isn’t strong. For me, it was a nice “parting gift” 😊 .

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Jun 17, 2021 08:02AM flashlight wrote:

Congrats on your retirement exbrnxgrl !!

Dx 11/15/2018, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Dx DCIS, Left, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes Radiation Therapy Whole-breast Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery Lumpectomy: Left
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Jun 17, 2021 08:42AM - edited Sep 23, 2021 02:23AM by Mavericksmom

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Jun 17, 2021 05:21PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

mavericksmom,

Ouch! That was rather miserly and unfair of your district. Are you a union member? If so, your contract should cover the snow day situation. I just checked our school board agenda and see that the one time bonus we got was given to all full time employees. My school district is not perfect but they try to do the right thing most of the time. It still hasn’t quite hit home that I’m retired but I’m sure I’ll get used to it! However, I confess that I’m looking forward to subbing come January.

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Jun 17, 2021 06:54PM Salamandra wrote:

I found a new school and I'm really excited about it! There were things I loved about my previous school but various aspects of administration/"leadership" were NOT among them, and it made my life extremely stressful the last few years. I've heard great things about my new school and the schedule they gave me looks like a dream. The official paperwork should go in next week and then maybe I'll let myself believe it's real!

Dx at 39. 1.8cm. Oncotype 9. Dx 9/19/2018, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Surgery 10/18/2018 Lumpectomy; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Hormonal Therapy 11/1/2018 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Radiation Therapy 12/3/2018 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/19/2019 Fareston (toremifene)
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Jun 18, 2021 05:09PM Pi-Xi wrote:

Congratulations, Salamandra!

My contract has been reduced but, unfortunately, my workload is about the same. A great ending to this year. 👎🏻

Oncotype 12 Dx 4/7/2016, DCIS, Left, 2cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, ER+/PR+ Surgery 7/11/2016 Mastectomy: Left; Prophylactic mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Dx 8/3/2016, DCIS/IDC/IDC: Papillary, Left, 1cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 8/31/2016 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Jul 2, 2021 09:47AM Dancemom wrote:

I'm terrified of fall. I'm a dance teacher and I work in 3 different environments- a dance school, a preschool and an afterschool program, mostly with very young children. I've had a few in person classes since last Oct. I am sure that's how I got covid. I got a notice of exposure the previous week from the preschool the same day I came down w a fever. I double mask when teaching, I wash constantly, use hand sanitizer between groups of kids.

I am now fully vaccinated plus already had Covid-19, but many of the incoming kids have never been in a group setting. They will be catching every single bug out there all at once! I am afraid of all the colds and whatever else all these little guys with no normal exposure will be getting and transmitting.

The incoming 2- 3s this summer never had to wear a mask before and many parents are not understanding that here it is the law and its to keep us all safe. Unvaccinated MUST wear a mask inside- that means all kids under 12 automatically. Last fall and spring, parents trained the tinies to keep them on at school. Now that things are opening, many parents don't feel the need to do that, so the teachers get exposed.

Yeah, I'm scared.

Dx 3/16/2021, IDC, Right, Stage IV, metastasized to other, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 3/28/2021 Femara (letrozole) Targeted Therapy 4/20/2021 Ibrance (palbociclib) Surgery 1/3/2022 Lymph node removal: Sentinel; Mastectomy: Right
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Jul 2, 2021 03:25PM flashlight wrote:

Hi Dancemom, I can understand why you would be nervous with this age group. I watched my grandson 3-days a week and he spent 2-days in day care. My daughter and I were so sick from what he would bring home. We used to pray for diarrhea instead of vomiting. It was similar to when my children started school so many years ago. We just heard for the fall the children don't have to wear mask and we are thankful for that. My grandson's 3rd grade class were so very good about wearing the mask and washing their hands. My daughter's 7th graders were not. When a child's mask was tested for pathogens they found streptococcus, escherichia coli, staph, to name just a few. Some children broke out in mysterious rashes. Some fainted while trying to play sports. All you can do is continue to wear your mask and follow the universal precautions. Hopefully things will look more like normal in the fall.

Dx 11/15/2018, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR-, HER2- Dx DCIS, Left, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes Radiation Therapy Whole-breast Hormonal Therapy Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Surgery Lumpectomy: Left
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Jul 24, 2021 01:43PM - edited Sep 23, 2021 02:23AM by Mavericksmom

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Jul 24, 2021 01:59PM Pi-Xi wrote:

Mavericksmom, I agree with you 100%!

In my head, I am not sure I’ve convinced myself to go back. Maybe I could survive without the money, but I’d hate to leave a good school with awesome colleagues.

Oncotype 12 Dx 4/7/2016, DCIS, Left, 2cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, ER+/PR+ Surgery 7/11/2016 Mastectomy: Left; Prophylactic mastectomy: Right; Reconstruction (left): Silicone implant; Reconstruction (right): Silicone implant Dx 8/3/2016, DCIS/IDC/IDC: Papillary, Left, 1cm, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 8/31/2016 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Jul 24, 2021 02:27PM bcincolorado wrote:

Just saw on the news here about a charter school opening with NO mask requirements at all.

Dx 8/2009, IDC, Left, 5cm, Stage IIA, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 1/7/2010 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Left Hormonal Therapy 1/15/2010 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone) Hormonal Therapy 1/30/2016 Femara (letrozole)
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Aug 1, 2021 03:56PM Spookiesmom wrote:

First time IDGgrade 3, stage 3. Second time, found lump myself. That made me stage 4. Dx IDC, Stage IIIA, Grade 3
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Aug 2, 2021 12:08AM Flowerkid wrote:

hi

Dancemom I hear your fears. After a year off due to cancer treatment and fear of covid, I agreed to return to teach preschool, 2-3 year olds. I am not yet sure what the mask policy will be. I am vaccinated and will certainly wear a mask, but I am concerned. Trying not to worry too much though, since all I have read indicated breakthrough is not horrific.

I also can't understand why masks may not be mandated. I am hopeful that the school I work in and where my (vaccination) kids go will be masked.

Practical question: has anyone found a clear mask that they like (and that isn't too pricey?). I do feel like that would be helpful for little kids .

And - I am with ya, spookiesmom!

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Aug 2, 2021 08:55AM - edited Sep 23, 2021 02:23AM by Mavericksmom

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Aug 2, 2021 03:32PM kksmom3 wrote:

SAME.... Mavericksmom, as you so eloquently put it! I'm in Iowa, I too, have an idiot Republican governor. What on earth! I have 1 more year, then I'm retiring, if I last that long. I am vaccinated with Moderna, but I know I will have kindergarten students that will probably contract this! Why is a tiny piece of cloth such a hardship for people!?! I will mask up for my kids!!!!

Dx 8/8/2018, DCIS/IDC, Right, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 10/1/2018 Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 10/29/2018 Whole-breast: Breast, Lymph nodes
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Aug 2, 2021 05:00PM Spookiesmom wrote:

FloriDuh man.

First time IDGgrade 3, stage 3. Second time, found lump myself. That made me stage 4. Dx IDC, Stage IIIA, Grade 3
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Aug 4, 2021 01:11PM - edited Aug 4, 2021 01:13PM by claireinaz

I guess I'm more fatalistic. I teach in a state uni, full time. I had to teach in person, with half my students in the classroom, 4 days a week, while teaching the other half simultaneously on Zoom, all while only wearing a mask and socially distancing, washing hands and sanitizing-- not fully vaccinated till mid-March although I was one of the first group to get a vaccine. Our county roll out was ridiculous, and anyone who was a univ instructor even if they weren't teaching physically in a classroom could get one, so it was a mad crazy free for all. I drove three hours to Phoenix to get both doses there.

So no, compared to last year, I am not scared to return to the classroom, where I'll have full classes this year, no vaccine requirement for students to attend classes, and masks will only be recommended since I live crazy-zona, where our governor made it illegal statewide for mandatory mask requirement or vaccinations. I just hope my 18+ and over students are smart enough to get vaccinated before they step into my classroom.

I can say last year was the worst, most stressful year in my teaching career, including the academic year where I taught full time while getting chemo and radiation. I figure anything is going to be better than last year.

PS I was also dx with Meniere's Disease this April, which seemed to be brought on and certainly exacerbated by the stress of teaching as described above. I will be retiring soon.

9/29/11 ILC, 2 c. stage II grade 1, ER/PR+ HER2-, 6/11 nodes, lumpectomy, DDAC x 4, Taxol x 12, 33 rads, Tamoxifen/arimidex/aromasin, BMX/immed recon 7/3/13 "In the midst of winter, I found in me an invincible summer.” Albert Camus

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