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Posted on: Dec 26, 2019 08:04PM - edited Dec 26, 2019 10:45PM by exbrnxgrl

exbrnxgrl wrote:

I have been using cannabis for the past few years. My main goal in using this is pain relief, de-stressor and for sleep. I have read some stories of using cannabis to cure cancer, but there is simply not enough data for me topursue it's use for that purpose.

Let me start by saying that I live in a legal state, both medical and recreational. My purchases and self experimentation are just that, my own personal experience. Your experiences may be different. If you're wondering why there isn't more scientific based research on weed, it is still completely illegal on the federal level, so not many research dollars available.

Cannabinols are the active ingredients in cannabis. With some variations, the major cannabinols are CBD and THC. CBD is not psychoactive, THC is. Cannabis plants fall into two major categories, Sativa and Indica. Indicas are known to be more sedating. This is the stuff that creates “couch lock". Sativas are thought to be more energizing. It gives more of a giggly high and is less sedating. On top of this there are many hybrids.

In addition to knowing if your weed is Sativa or Indica, different strains within each category will have varying amounts/ratios of CBD to THC. If you live in a legal state, this information should be available on the packaging. Other very important info on the packaging will be percentages of these ingredients. For instance, due to my high tolerance, I generally look for products that are at least 20% THC, 5% CBD , though for sleep I prefer a 1:1 ratio. The higher the CBD level to THC, the less “high" you will feel.

Strains... what can I say except there are hundreds, especially with all of the hybridization and mixing of strains. Here are some favorites:

Sativa- Durban Poison, Jack Herrer, Lemon Haze

Indica- Gorilla Glue, most Kush strains, Zkittlez

I have tried most, but not all, of the available forms cannabis come in. Edibles are great but for me, the time from consumption to onset of effects has been very inconsistent. Some of the edibles such as cookies and candy bars are so delicious that you can wind up eating lots of sugar! Vaping was ok, but gave me a sore throat so I no longer vape.

I prefer capsules or sub-lingual drops and use a 1:1 CBD/THC ratio. This is what I usually take about 90 minutes before bed or even earlier. For immediate effects, I find there is no substitute for smoking a joint.

My only advice for those who are interested in cannabis is to go low (dosage) and slow(wait some time before taking more). If you have access to a legal dispensary, the bud tenders are usually quite knowledgeable and can advise you. In the end, it boiled down to a lot of self experimentation and too many Kiva brand dark chocolate bars 🤣. BTW, if you consume too much THC, i.e. you get too high, CBD can help counteract that.

While not an expert, I have years of personal experience under my belt and am happy to share what I have learned. As with anything that has psychoactive effects please do not drive or do anything that requires an unimpaired state of mind to do. I should add that I only use cannabis at night as I still work full time. Lastly, if you are not in a legal state or simply choose not to use legal dispensaries there is no way to know what you're getting. In my state, the legal dispensaries are very expensive due to high taxes, but I am willing to pay that because I know what I'm getting (this includes if it is organic, indoor or outdoor grow etc.)

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Dec 30, 2019 01:10AM exbrnxgrl wrote:

I live off of Santa Clara St., east of city hall. We’re practically neighbors!

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Dec 30, 2019 01:48AM coraleliz wrote:

Spark1975

You mentioned surrendering constitutional rights when you get a medical card. Other than the 2nd amendment, has this been an issue? My reason for asking is that I live in California. I purchased my son a medical card when he turned 18. He can't legally use recreational until he turns 21. He was busted twice in HS for weed. His 2nd offense cost me $3500 in attorney fees. It seemed like a good idea at the time to get him a card. (Save money if he got caught again). My husband also has a card & medical is cheaper in California.

Dx 2/28/2011, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Dx 3/15/2011, IDC, Left, 1cm, Stage IIA, Grade 1, 2/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 4/15/2011 Lymph node removal: Left, Right, Sentinel; Mastectomy: Left, Right
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Dec 30, 2019 09:35AM - edited Dec 30, 2019 12:01PM by Scott1975

I don't know for sure if California has implemented any statutes for keeping 4th and 11h amendments in place. (Probable not.) But in Nevada. A medical card allows law enforcement to use the medical status as a means to inquiry deeper into illicit activity without judicial approval. Kind of like buying cigarettes or alcohol for minors. They can use the admission like a warrant. Due process is out the door since a med card holder is admitted to the purchase and consumption of a controlled substance. It is a slippery slope that comes with the medical card. Here we don't have statutes that hold constitutional right intact. Specifically the 2nd. Our legislators are being lobbied hard for these rights to stay In place. Fortunately a blind eye is turned to the cannabis crowd. But remember the chicken hawk pretends to not be looking!

There are a lot of instances of LE encroachment due because of those few jack wagons that abuse the medical card. As Rec becomes more of a norm and states keep legalizing it the federal government gets pressed to change its ways. Just like prohibition in the 20's.

Statutes should be available in CA state website.

Hope that helps.

Dx 3/24/2018, IDC, Right, 6cm+, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 11/20 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 4/5/2018 Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left, Right Dx 5/20/2018, IDC, 1cm, Stage IV, metastasized to bone/liver, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Targeted Therapy 6/1/2018 Ibrance (palbociclib) Surgery 6/16/2018 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Chemotherapy 9/30/2018 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Surgery 3/28/2019 Prophylactic ovary removal Targeted Therapy 6/15/2019 Afinitor (everolimus) Targeted Therapy 10/20/2019 Dx 12/22/2019, Stage IV, metastasized to brain Radiation Therapy 12/27/2019 External: Brain Dx 1/21/2020, IDC, Right, Stage IV, metastasized to brain/bone/liver, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Dec 30, 2019 12:08PM Scott1975 wrote:

I really should have noticed the auto correct. 11th and the 4th. Not the fourteenth that is for citizenship.


Dx 3/24/2018, IDC, Right, 6cm+, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 11/20 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 4/5/2018 Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left, Right Dx 5/20/2018, IDC, 1cm, Stage IV, metastasized to bone/liver, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Targeted Therapy 6/1/2018 Ibrance (palbociclib) Surgery 6/16/2018 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Chemotherapy 9/30/2018 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Surgery 3/28/2019 Prophylactic ovary removal Targeted Therapy 6/15/2019 Afinitor (everolimus) Targeted Therapy 10/20/2019 Dx 12/22/2019, Stage IV, metastasized to brain Radiation Therapy 12/27/2019 External: Brain Dx 1/21/2020, IDC, Right, Stage IV, metastasized to brain/bone/liver, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Jan 1, 2020 11:36PM fifthyear wrote:

Yes we are closed, thanks for this post, we need this type of data.

Dx 2007, IDC, Right, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/4 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery Lumpectomy: Right; Lymph node removal: Right, Sentinel Radiation Therapy Breast
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Jan 2, 2020 01:52PM Moderators wrote:

Would you mind sharing your thoughts on Medical Cannabis? We are looking for people to take our Survey. Only for those living in the US, and who have been diagnosed less than 5 years ago. Will take 10-15 minutes to complete. Thank you, thank you!!


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Jan 6, 2020 12:52PM LoveFromPhilly wrote:

I love medical cannabis and have been using it pretty regularly since my diagnosis (and it becoming medically legal in the state of Pennsylvania yay!).

The medical strains are stronger as mentioned previously. I tend to use indica at night for sleep. That’s my biggest issue. Sometimes for pain, sometimes for nausea. It works pretty well for all three for me.

I do not enjoy the anxiety/paranoia aspect of it. I am a more anxious person in general and so I can get realllly paranoid. On NYE I was walking home from a party with a friend and we shared a joint I had rolled of a medical strain called Chronald (very very high thc indica strain) and I could barely hold a conversation. I felt nauseated and anxious and came home and had a big bowel purge (I had also eaten quite a bit...sorry if too much TMI). But it does do a number on my vagas nerve throwing me between fight or flight and rest and digest modes.

I also one time got talked into trying the RSO and it was a high thc amount. I ended up needing a Valium because I was so anxious. The combo was lovely but I don’t want to get into that habit.

My biggest advice is take it slow. Take low doses. Don’t overdue.

It is strong MEDICINE and some of us are more prone to the side effects than others. I am one of them.

💫 🧚🏾‍♀️ 💫 🧚🏾‍♀️ 💫 🧚🏽‍♂️ 💫 🧚🏽‍♂️ 💫 🧚🏾‍♀️ 💫 🧚🏾‍♀️ 💫 🧚🏾‍♀️ 💫 🧚🏾‍♀️ Dx 3/25/2017, IDC, Right, Stage IV, metastasized to bone, Grade 3, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Hormonal Therapy 4/5/2017 Femara (letrozole) Targeted Therapy Ibrance (palbociclib)
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Jan 6, 2020 02:31PM - edited Jan 6, 2020 06:13PM by thisiknow

Scott1975 ... after I got my Med card I was disappointed to find I couldn't buy the new Glock 42 (.380...14oz...6+1) I wanted for portability. In Colorado....

.....Recreational Cannabis = you MAY buy a/another gun

.....Medical Cannabis = you MAY NOT buy a/another gun

In other words, if you're using Cannabis for health reasons you can't buy a gun but if you're using Cannabis just to get high...you can buy all the guns you want.

Makes sense, right?

Wrong.

So I was going to let my license expire, buy the gun, and all would be well. Until I was told they'd still know I had had a Med card. Anyway I believed whoever told me that and gave up. I have enough guns I guess.

I do scratch my head over why they just cannot get all this Cannabis legalization worked out in short order.

At least the Cannabis is cheap here. And getting cheaper every day. One Budtender told me that if you want to buy an ounce of bud, if they don't have the strain on the Med side, you can buy it for 40% cheaper on the Rec side. That's nice to know.

LoveFromPhilly ... Medical Marijuana is NO different from Recreational Marijuana. One dispensary just shares crops between their Med and Rec side. Nothing is added to Marijuana to make it "Medical." It's all Cannabis.


Age 72 @dx - Oncotype 4 & 15 Dx 7/14/2019, DCIS/IDC, Both breasts, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Surgery 9/9/2019 Lumpectomy: Left, Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 10/27/2019 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/18/2019 Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Jan 6, 2020 02:41PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

Well, in CA cannabis keeps getting more expensive because the taxes are very high. So much so that many people choose to buy illegally. Never having touched a gun, that’s not an issue for me.

Remember if you take too much THC, CBD will bring you down

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Jan 6, 2020 04:34PM Scott1975 wrote:

thisiknow

I am with you. It makes as much sense as breathing under water.

When Rec passed in NV. The same year UBGC’s passed. The reasoning behind these regs are circular and don’t solve anything. Our laws state that medical cards automatically suspend our right to purchase a firearm. It also voids the ccw until two years after the medical card is surrendered or expires. But we can petition the court to reinstate our ccw and ability to purchase for a small tax, I mean fee. We can still carry under the laws we have and they treat it the same as alcohol. But the federal government might see things differently.

USCCA has great information about cannabis and firearms.

I don’t use it, so I don’t really worry about anything pot related. But I know several people that have been trapped in the net of nonsense.

Dx 3/24/2018, IDC, Right, 6cm+, Stage IIB, Grade 2, 11/20 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 4/5/2018 Lymph node removal: Right, Underarm/Axillary; Mastectomy: Left, Right Dx 5/20/2018, IDC, 1cm, Stage IV, metastasized to bone/liver, Grade 2, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Targeted Therapy 6/1/2018 Ibrance (palbociclib) Surgery 6/16/2018 Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Chemotherapy 9/30/2018 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Surgery 3/28/2019 Prophylactic ovary removal Targeted Therapy 6/15/2019 Afinitor (everolimus) Targeted Therapy 10/20/2019 Dx 12/22/2019, Stage IV, metastasized to brain Radiation Therapy 12/27/2019 External: Brain Dx 1/21/2020, IDC, Right, Stage IV, metastasized to brain/bone/liver, Grade 3, ER-/PR-, HER2-
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Jan 8, 2020 05:28PM - edited Jan 8, 2020 06:12PM by thisiknow

"Cannabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ®) Patient Version)"


You can see the "Professional Version" of this article by clicking the blue link under the Title after you get there.... https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq#section/all?redirect=true

Some very good/elementary facts about Marijuana.
Click on underlined words to see the definitions.


Age 72 @dx - Oncotype 4 & 15 Dx 7/14/2019, DCIS/IDC, Both breasts, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (FISH) Surgery 9/9/2019 Lumpectomy: Left, Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 10/27/2019 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/18/2019 Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Jan 31, 2020 01:57PM breaktheice wrote:

Thanks for sharing.

I think it's important to add that Marijuana is not meant to be a magical cure all for cancer. How badly do I wish it could, but cancer is not that simple.

What's really going on is seeing how we can use Marijuana as complementary medicine, rather than a cure. It's benefits are used in conjunction with other therapies such as chemo and radiation. Along with battling the demoralizing effects such as nausea, no sleep, lack of appetite, etc. It's a way of stacking the deck.

I think those just goes to show how beneficial Marijuana can be to the medical industry, but also how much research is needed to understand complicated diseases such as cancer. Hopefully with more legalization it can lead to more research.

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Jan 31, 2020 07:02PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

breaktheice,

I agree that cannabis has been useful for control of unpleasant symptoms and side effects, However, until it is legalized federally and is not longer classified as a schedule I drug (meaning of little to no medical value) Then research will remain scarce


Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Feb 1, 2020 07:42AM Yogatyme wrote:

SIL sent this to me yesterday....a good laugh

Yogatyme Surgery 3/3/2019 Prophylactic ovary removal Dx 7/19/2019, IDC: Papillary, Right, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 8/13/2019 Mastectomy: Left, Right
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Feb 2, 2020 09:04PM - edited Feb 2, 2020 09:04PM by jessie123

It sure would calm my nerves -- I smoked it years ago in the early 70's when I was in college. Then we moved to a conservative town and the college crowd was no longer around so I've never had it since then. I would never buy it off the streets today as I've heard it's not the same pure stuff we had 50 yrs ago. I'll be dead before Alabama ever legalizes it.

Dx 11/2018, LCIS/ILC, Left, 2cm, Stage IB, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 2/21/2019 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 4/14/2019 Whole-breast: Breast
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Feb 2, 2020 09:22PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

Sorry about that jessie. I can’t see AL going legal anytime soon either. I will say that I have really enjoyed having legal access in my state. I know nothing about illegal sales as CA has had legal access, medical, for years. Interestingly, the legal stuff is often far more potent than what was available on the streets in the 60’s and 70’s. Some estimates state that street weed of an earlier time was under 20% THC . In legal dispensaries, the THC and CBD percentages are always clearly labeled. Many products contain well over 20% THC and people are often surprised by the potency. I still wish there was more exact dosing info, but even when I experiment with a new product, I have enough experience behind me to know how much to use, though I’ve had a few unpleasant experiences (not too awful, I just needed to lay down)

Bilateral mx 9/7/11 with one step ns reconstruction. As of 11/21/11, 2cm met to upper left femur Dx 7/8/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 9/7/2011 Lymph node removal: Left; Mastectomy: Left, Right; Reconstruction (left); Reconstruction (right) Dx 11/2011, IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, 1/15 nodes, mets, ER+/PR+, HER2- Hormonal Therapy 11/21/2011 Arimidex (anastrozole) Radiation Therapy 11/21/2011 Bone Hormonal Therapy 6/19/2014 Femara (letrozole) Hormonal Therapy Aromasin (exemestane)
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Feb 3, 2020 06:54AM purple32 wrote:

Here in MA Both med and rec are legal.

I have pain issues (NOT BC related) and have tried edibles . REALLY help with sleep more than anything else.

As an aside, I would not vape if you paid me. Maybe I don't know enough,but NO VAPING for *me* thanks!

I personally won't smoker either but that is due to lung damage from being a former smoker.

At this point, I am due for a surgery so I won't even be taking edibles/ just not enough info on BP and heart rate for my liking and my ' normal' LOW LOW BP is high ( stress and episodic but the heart does not care what's causing it!

Use caution in all things.

Best wishes !

NEW DX Jan2020 Looking at Mast w/ recon.Lymphedema on LEFT. NO rads. 2 clean nodes. purple32. UPDATE: 2017 blood draw in RIGHT arm CAUSED new LE due to fact arm had just healed from a break and already had an ' insult' plus poor lymph system. Dx 3/2012, IDC, <1cm, Stage I, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 4/30/2012 Lumpectomy: Left
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Feb 13, 2020 11:22PM motu53 wrote:

Great Post Scott 1975...Very Interesting & Informative too. Thanks a lot..Keep them coming !!

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2 hours ago edj3 wrote:

This entire thread has been very helpful to me. I'm dealing with some pain that I'm pretty confident is from radiation (fibrosis in the left pec, a weird rib pain on the same side and my sternum is just off), I'm also training for my first marathon. So I pulled the trigger on CBD cream to help with that. Has to be THC free b/c I live in Kansas.

Tried the tamoxifen, no thanks. Dx 4/9/2019, DCIS/IDC, Left, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- (IHC) Surgery 5/5/2019 Lumpectomy; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Dx 5/6/2019, LCIS, Left, <1cm, 0/1 nodes Radiation Therapy 6/2/2019 Whole-breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 9/22/2019 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)

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