Topic: Cannabis Basics

Forum: Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment — Complementary medicine refers to treatments that are used WITH standard treatment. Holistic medicine is a term used to describe therapies that attempt to treat the patient as a whole person.

Posted on: Dec 26, 2019 09:04PM - edited Jun 22, 2021 05:07PM by exbrnxgrl

Posted on: Dec 26, 2019 09:04PM - edited Jun 22, 2021 05:07PM by exbrnxgrl

exbrnxgrl wrote:

I have been using cannabis for the past few years. My main goal in using this is pain relief, de-stressor and for sleep. I have read some stories of using cannabis to cure cancer, but there is simply not enough data for me topursue it's use for that purpose.

Let me start by saying that I live in a legal state, both medical and recreational. My purchases and self experimentation are just that, my own personal experience. Your experiences may be different. If you're wondering why there isn't more scientific based research on weed, it is still completely illegal on the federal level, so not many research dollars available.

Cannabinols are the active ingredients in cannabis. With some variations, the major cannabinols are CBD and THC. CBD is not psychoactive, THC is. Cannabis plants fall into two major categories, Sativa and Indica. Indicas are known to be more sedating. This is the stuff that creates “couch lock". Sativas are thought to be more energizing. It gives more of a giggly high and is less sedating. On top of this there are many hybrids.

In addition to knowing if your weed is Sativa or Indica, different strains within each category will have varying amounts/ratios of CBD to THC. If you live in a legal state, this information should be available on the packaging. Other very important info on the packaging will be percentages of these ingredients. For instance, due to my high tolerance, I generally look for products that are at least 20% THC, 5% CBD , though for sleep I prefer a 1:1 ratio. The higher the CBD level to THC, the less “high" you will feel.

Strains... what can I say except there are hundreds, especially with all of the hybridization and mixing of strains. Here are some favorites:

Sativa- Durban Poison, Jack Herrer, Lemon Haze

Indica- Gorilla Glue, most Kush strains, Zkittlez

I have tried most, but not all, of the available forms cannabis come in. Edibles are great but for me, the time from consumption to onset of effects has been very inconsistent. Some of the edibles such as cookies and candy bars are so delicious that you can wind up eating lots of sugar! Vaping was ok, but gave me a sore throat so I no longer vape.

I prefer capsules or sub-lingual drops and use a 1:1 CBD/THC ratio. This is what I usually take about 90 minutes before bed or even earlier. For immediate effects, I find there is no substitute for smoking a joint.

My only advice for those who are interested in cannabis is to go low (dosage) and slow(wait some time before taking more). If you have access to a legal dispensary, the bud tenders are usually quite knowledgeable and can advise you. In the end, it boiled down to a lot of self experimentation and too many Kiva brand dark chocolate bars 🤣. BTW, if you consume too much THC, i.e. you get too high, CBD can help counteract that.

While not an expert, I have years of personal experience under my belt and am happy to share what I have learned. As with anything that has psychoactive effects please do not drive or do anything that requires an unimpaired state of mind to do. I should add that I only use cannabis at night as I still work full time*. Lastly, if you are not in a legal state or simply choose not to use legal dispensaries there is no way to know what you're getting. In my state, the legal dispensaries are very expensive due to high taxes, but I am willing to pay that because I know what I'm getting (this includes if it is organic, indoor or outdoor grow etc.)

* I’m now retired! 6/4/2

Dx IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Jan 8, 2020 06:28PM - edited Jan 8, 2020 07:12PM by thisiknow

"Cannabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ®) Patient Version)"


You can see the "Professional Version" of this article by clicking the blue link under the Title after you get there.... https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/treatment/cam/hp/cannabis-pdq#section/all?redirect=true

Some very good/elementary facts about Marijuana.
Click on underlined words to see the definitions.


Age 72 @dx - Oncotype 4 & 15 Dx 7/14/2019, DCIS/IDC, Both breasts, 1cm, Stage IA, Grade 1, 0/3 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-, Surgery 9/10/2019 Lumpectomy: Left, Right; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 10/28/2019 Whole breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 12/18/2019 Arimidex (anastrozole)
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Jan 31, 2020 02:57PM breaktheice wrote:

Thanks for sharing.

I think it's important to add that Marijuana is not meant to be a magical cure all for cancer. How badly do I wish it could, but cancer is not that simple.

What's really going on is seeing how we can use Marijuana as complementary medicine, rather than a cure. It's benefits are used in conjunction with other therapies such as chemo and radiation. Along with battling the demoralizing effects such as nausea, no sleep, lack of appetite, etc. It's a way of stacking the deck.

I think those just goes to show how beneficial Marijuana can be to the medical industry, but also how much research is needed to understand complicated diseases such as cancer. Hopefully with more legalization it can lead to more research.

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Jan 31, 2020 08:02PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

breaktheice,

I agree that cannabis has been useful for control of unpleasant symptoms and side effects, However, until it is legalized federally and is not longer classified as a schedule I drug (meaning of little to no medical value) Then research will remain scarce


Dx IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Feb 1, 2020 08:42AM Yogatyme wrote:

SIL sent this to me yesterday....a good laugh

Yogatyme Surgery 3/3/2019 Prophylactic ovary removal Dx 7/19/2019, IDC: Papillary, Right, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 8/13/2019 Mastectomy: Left, Right
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Feb 2, 2020 10:04PM - edited Feb 2, 2020 10:04PM by jessie123

It sure would calm my nerves -- I smoked it years ago in the early 70's when I was in college. Then we moved to a conservative town and the college crowd was no longer around so I've never had it since then. I would never buy it off the streets today as I've heard it's not the same pure stuff we had 50 yrs ago. I'll be dead before Alabama ever legalizes it.

Dx 11/2018, LCIS/ILC, Left, 2cm, Stage IB, Grade 2, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 2/21/2019 Lumpectomy: Left; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 4/15/2019 Whole breast: Breast
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Feb 2, 2020 10:22PM exbrnxgrl wrote:

Sorry about that jessie. I can’t see AL going legal anytime soon either. I will say that I have really enjoyed having legal access in my state. I know nothing about illegal sales as CA has had legal access, medical, for years. Interestingly, the legal stuff is often far more potent than what was available on the streets in the 60’s and 70’s. Some estimates state that street weed of an earlier time was under 20% THC . In legal dispensaries, the THC and CBD percentages are always clearly labeled. Many products contain well over 20% THC and people are often surprised by the potency. I still wish there was more exact dosing info, but even when I experiment with a new product, I have enough experience behind me to know how much to use, though I’ve had a few unpleasant experiences (not too awful, I just needed to lay down)

Dx IDC, Left, 4cm, Stage IV, Grade 1, ER+/PR+, HER2-
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Feb 3, 2020 07:54AM purple32 wrote:

Here in MA Both med and rec are legal.

I have pain issues (NOT BC related) and have tried edibles . REALLY help with sleep more than anything else.

As an aside, I would not vape if you paid me. Maybe I don't know enough,but NO VAPING for *me* thanks!

I personally won't smoker either but that is due to lung damage from being a former smoker.

At this point, I am due for a surgery so I won't even be taking edibles/ just not enough info on BP and heart rate for my liking and my ' normal' LOW LOW BP is high ( stress and episodic but the heart does not care what's causing it!

Use caution in all things.

Best wishes !

BILAT LE! from 5.12.12.LX DX 3/2012 IDC <1 cm stage 1 GR 1 ( 0/2 nodes) ER PR pos HER2- RECURRENCE same breast Jan 2020 LX FEB 2020 . NO rads or hormones. Dx 3/2012, IDC, Left, <1cm, Grade 1, 0/2 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2- Surgery 5/1/2012 Lumpectomy; Lumpectomy (Left)
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Feb 14, 2020 12:22AM motu53 wrote:

Great Post Scott 1975...Very Interesting & Informative too. Thanks a lot..Keep them coming !!

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Feb 22, 2020 06:51PM edj3 wrote:

This entire thread has been very helpful to me. I'm dealing with some pain that I'm pretty confident is from radiation (fibrosis in the left pec, a weird rib pain on the same side and my sternum is just off), I'm also training for my first marathon. So I pulled the trigger on CBD cream to help with that. Has to be THC free b/c I live in Kansas.

Tried the tamoxifen, no thanks. Dx 4/9/2019, IDC, Left, <1cm, Stage IA, Grade 2, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-, Dx 5/6/2019, LCIS, Left, <1cm, 0/1 nodes Surgery 5/6/2019 Lumpectomy; Lymph node removal: Sentinel Radiation Therapy 6/3/2019 Whole breast: Breast Hormonal Therapy 9/23/2019 Tamoxifen pills (Nolvadex, Apo-Tamox, Tamofen, Tamone)
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Feb 23, 2020 12:49PM - edited Feb 23, 2020 12:58PM by anotherone

btw when they say "CBD is free from thc" it is not necessarily so. I have got stoned quite a few times on CBD which I bought from the internet claiming it had no THC ( I live in Britain where THC is illegal).

I know the feeling as I have used cannabis recreationally a few times in my life. I was astounded to notice unmistakable effects of THC as I did not expect it at all .

Not that I am complaining- getting legal high is great - I just have to remember just in case not take it too late or not to feel tempted to take it if I need to drive /work/have important events after. Great for sex !

Primary in 2006, metastasis 2019. Sorry can lot log in diagnosis and treatment info properly - it gets jumbled. On Kadcyla now as had progression on H&P Dx 10/10/2006, IDC, Left, Stage IIIC, metastasized to lungs, Grade 3, 4/9 nodes, ER-/PR-, HER2- Dx 7/1/2019, IDC, Stage IV, metastasized to lungs Chemotherapy 9/17/2019 Abraxane (albumin-bound or nab-paclitaxel) Surgery Lymph node removal; Mastectomy; Mastectomy (Left); Reconstruction (Left): Tissue Expander Radiation Therapy External: Chest wall Targeted Therapy Herceptin (trastuzumab)

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