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Hi. I loved the pictures of the walk....I was not ready this year to go. I hope everyone had a nice Mother's Day. I had a sentinel node biopsy on Monday and also had a port-a-cath(sp?) insertion. The dr removed 4 nodes - is that common for a sentinel node? Also the tape that they put under my arm and on my chest gave me blisters. Is that common? Are there any stretches or anything to help those areas not feel so tight? Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks
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Happy Birthday Pat!
(Blackjack-count me in for dinner on the 28th.)
Back later-
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Hi all....glad to see you back Tdbear and Jule. I can't tell you much about your Sentinel node biopsy. Mine came out when I had my lumpectomy--three. They were all clear and clean. When Sentinel nodes are done I think usually a dye is put in ( at least that was how mine was done ) and the dye goes to the nodes that are draining that breast---apparently you had four...I only had three. Then I think those nodes would be tested???/dissected---they make many, many slices to check if there is anything there. It also sounds like you had a reaction to the tape that was used....allergy of some kind. That is probably causing the feeling of stiffness and discomfort I would think....but I've never been allergic to anything like that so I am only guessing. I sure hope it all comes together for you though and I'm sure someone else here knows a lot more than I do about these things...my face may be red later if I have told you wrong.
Now.....hmmmm. Looks like I will have to go to Marion and stay in the motel during my rads. Dr. Lingamurthy said that it's very seldom that the V.A. will give approval for any of the long distance patients to have their rads closer to home. Darn...well, I'm not going to skip this part just because of that, but it sure would have been nice to stay home. Baby Boss would be happier too. As far as that goes....I have to wait a couple more weeks yet---he said the rads could be hard on my blood counts so I need the extra time to keep healing and generating my blood cells. Drat...I wanted to start next week. So, I don't know much of anything. He did tell me that he was pretty certain he would put me on Armidex once I was done with the rads. At least I was able to find out something. I also am to continue taking the meds for the tick so all was fine there.
Not sure what I'm going to tell my daughter about vacation....I'm no longer sure now.
Well, I'll be checking back in later. See ya'll then.
Jackie
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Blackjack - I will also be there on the 28th.
Michele - Pat is right - my ps told me he would also be doing MRI's on my implant side to make sure it didn't rupture. So, maybe you can get it that way. I think he told me he wouldn't do them until 2 years passed and then every year. So, I guess that doesn't help you now.
Julie - I had three sentinel nodes removed so 4 is probably not uncommon. I'm hoping for good news for you.
Have a great trip, Laura. You aren't still at the Tropicana are you? If so, I hope you won't be hanging out at that pool.
Sorry you have to make the long trip for rads, Jackie. Since you will be in a hotel, just look at it as an extended vacation!
Have a great evening everyone!
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I'm still catching up on posts I have missed....wonderful colors, Laura. Your house looks beautiful, and it's no wonder you are such a good designer. I especially love the cocoa! Have fun on your trip, don't do anything we wouldn't do!
Jackie, I'm so sorry you have to be away from home for your rads. Maybe you can bring some books you've been meaning to read, and pass the time that way. It is usual for the docs to want us to wait a minimum of two weeks, and sometimes up to four between chemo and rads. We have to have time to recover from one tx before we start another. My rads doc suggested I take four weeks, but I convincd him I only needed two. I'm not sorry, but I did get very tired from the rads. Hope your vacation will still work out.
Karin...I'm sorry to hear about the hospice care for your BIL and friend. We had that for my mom, and it was a good thing. We were able to have her at home, and she wanted that.
Mich....So happy you are coming to dinner.
Jule...It sounds like the skin reaction is an allergy to the tape. It's not uncommon, but a pain in the neck. I have it too, so they used a different tape for my second surgery, and the red marks were worse. Try to remember to tell them about your reaction if you have any other procedures that require tape. One of my red marks took a few months to go away, but they do in time.
Your snb sounds usual...docs usually take from one to five nodes out. My doc removed three. That incision usually is more uncomfortable that the lumpectomy site. You can do some arm raising exercises, gently raising your arm a little more each day. Try standing in front of a wall, and reach out to touch it with your fingertips. Then use the fingertips to walk slowly up the wall. You can do it several times per day, and gradually go higher as the days go on. It pulls in the armpit, so work on it very gradually at first. It will improve with time. It's been two years since my surgery, and I still feel it pulling when I reach up to the top shelf to get something in the kitchen. Hope this helps, and that you're feeling better real soon.
Kats....What a lovely grandaughter! The project looks beautiful, and just like I remember when I went to Kentucky on vacation as a child. You are a good and lucky grandmother! I have no experience as I only have a grandcat so far, but I'm have three kids, so I'm trying to be patient. Instead of a patient!
Hugs to all. Pat
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hi all:
Just got back from a teacher retirement party! One year from now, I will (God-willing) be attending my own. Weird!
Okay, Pat, I still have a little time to wish you Happy Birthday! I so hope this was a good day for you.
Jackie, the motel sounds like a miserable thing, yet a necessary thing as you need to get this part of it over. Connie is so cool in that she suggests you should view it as some sort of extended vacation. With that in mind, get a place with a pool and a view. Bring lots of books and gossipy magazines, like People. Also bring a great lamp as motels tend to be dark!
Well, this weekend is our big party as my grand baby is getting baptized
Susan
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Julie, my surgeon removed 4 nodes also...the sentinel node, one next to it and two other random nodes located farther away. I think you got the usual treatment! I would tend to agree with Pat...I imagine that you are allergic to the tape that they used. You might check with your doctor to see what you can use on that area to get some relief. This will be tender for awhile because any movement of the arm pulls on the tissue in this area.
Oh Jackie...so sorry that you're going to have to stay in the motel to do rads. There's no place like home, especially when you're tired and stressed. Take lots of books and just relax and consider it a vacation from all the chores at home. Since you have to travel such a long distance, I'm surprised that they didn't mention the one week routine. One of my friends had rads twice a day for a week (or maybe it was 10 days) and then was done with the deal!
Michele and Connie...so glad that you're joining us on the 28th for dinner.
Laura...have a great time and win big!!!!
Smerf...I hope your bathroom project goes smoothly. We have some paint touch-ups to do and the towel racks, etc. to hang (and I need to find a shower curtain) and we are done. It has been a LONG venture but it really turned out pretty good. I'll post some pictures next week.
Well, it's late and I'm tired so I'm heading for bed. Catch you all tomorrow.
Rita
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Hi. The doctor called me last night to let me know that results were in. He actually removed 5 nodes, and 2 were positive. He told me that my team thought that with my history (even though the genetic test came back negative) that they believed my chance of a reoccurence was high. So, not very good news.
I am calling my oncologist today to discuss potential changes to the plan of chemo, then surgery, and then radiation. Pat thanks for the ideas for the stretches. I will try those. I have been using the Vicadon at night to sleep this week (didn't use it Mon night and was in a lot of pain on Tuesday), but it plays havoc with my stomach
Rita and Jackie, I will definitely talk to the doctor about the tape the next time. I still have the sterastrips on, but they are starting to peel off. Anyway blisters are under these as well.......
Have a good day everyone....maybe we will get sunshine today.
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Good morning although we are it sounds like definitely due for rain. Over by late tonight and than sunny tomorrow. Sure hope so...I'm ready. Gloomy most of yesterday. Good suggestions for me for my "motel vacation". Hope the room has a kitchenette so I can stock up on some goodies. The V.A. will transport me to meals--meaning the cafeteria at the V.A. medical center. Who knows...I may end up losing some wt. here. Figure if I could find it ( my cover for it ) I could take my mini-trampoline and use that a lot---it's very good for your cells--opens them all up and gets them flowing. Well, we will just have to see.
Julie....I'm sorry to hear that you had positive nodes. This may change the treatment a bit. I guess the next thing would be your pathology report and to find out whether you are er or pr negative or positive as well as the Her-2-neu status--positive or negative as this gives you more treatment options. I'm sending good vibes.
Well, I need to get off to work and see wshat's cooking there.
Hope you all have a fantastic day. I'll see if there is a good quote when I get home tonight....in the pouring rain by then I think.
Jackie
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Susan...how about that! Only one more year. That last year just seems to fly by! Can you join us on the 28th in the evening for dinner? I'd love to see you again!
Julie...hugs! I am so sorry that they found it in two of the lymph nodes because that makes one especially anxious. However, that is not always bad. The job of the lymph node is to clean out and trap the diseased and deformed cells in our body and that's exactly what yours have been doing. I'm sure that everyone will now take a second look at your treatment plan and you'll find one that's just for you. It is wise to reconsider everything now. As for the sleeping issue, terrible worries tend to plague us at night. There is nothing wrong with taking what you need to help you get some sleep. You need your rest. If you're having stomach problems with the Vicadon, ask for something different if you feel you need it! Please keep us informed! We are here for you.
Wendy...we miss you! Where are you hiding?
Well, I cheated last night with the youth group. After a good 10 minute discussion, we played games outside. They'd worked hard all year long and I must admit I was burnt out myself. We ended on a good note and one of the girls brought me a very pretty daisy to plant and a nice note of appreciation. That always makes you feel so good.
The sun is trying to peek through the clouds here but it's still rather chilly! I guess it's a good day to tackle some laundry and maybe the sun will surprise us and WAM and I can play a little golf later.
My DIL's birthday was in April. I gave her a coupon for a shopping trip and cash that she has to spend entirely upon herself. Since their schedule has been so hectic, we're just now getting ready to redeem this coupon. We're meeting them on the east side of Indianapolis on Saturday morning. All of us are going for birthday lunch. Then my son, Dave, and the little boys are coming back to Bloomington and my DIL and I are staying until she's spent every bit of her birthday money. I hope the weather is good for the weekend because there is a festival/carnival in a near-by town on Sunday and I know my two little guys would love that. When you only get to see them "every-so-often" you have to make every minute count! I am really looking forward to the weekend!
Have a great day!
Rita
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Hi All,
Second chemo went fine, no allergic reaction, I go back for my nuelesta tomorrow.
Pat Happy belated Birthday I'm sorry I didn't call you yesterday.
Blackjack miss you love you.
I'm in for the lunch bunch.
Laura have a great time. Be crazy.
Julie I can't remember where you live, I'm in Carol Stream, If you need anything just call t.
to all I missed, have a wonderful day.
The steroids make me nuts, I can't sit still long enough to post.
Love
Leesa
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I should have spell checked....Duh
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Julie...I'm sorry you got that news about your nodes. Please try not to get too discouraged by that. The docs are always giving us statistics, but there is no reason not to think that you will come out on the right side of those! It sounds like your doctors are on top of it, and making the best plan just for you.
Don't feel badly about needing meds for pain, anxiety, or sleep. If one doesn't work, there are always others they can prescribe. All the pain scripts are famous, or infamous, for causing constipation so maybe take some colace, senokot or both to keep things "going" , so to speak. If they cause other stomach issues, don't hesitate to ask for something else. Your team's job is to help you through this, but they need to know if something isn't working.
I'm so sorry about the blisters. That happened to me too, and even the so called nonallergic tape did the same thing. I couldn't wait until those things fell off! I just let it heal on its own, but you could ask the surgeon if you could use something topical on it. Benedryl comes in a topical form, and it works better on skin than the oral Benedryl. Hoping this is helpful in some way. Talk to you soon, and hoping your talk to your onc today answers all your questions.
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Hi girls....I have been locked out of AOL for two days. Someone obviously did something against their rules and they locked out my account in error. Jeesh. They had to go back to my e-mails and then realized I wasn't threatening anyone, or sending porn. This is just not my week for technology.
And now I am so behind in posts....so I will have to catch up later.
Pat....happy belated birthday!!! I am so sorry I missed it!
Julie....so sorry about the positive nodes but they did their job...exactly what they are supposed to do! Your chemo plan may not change as much as you think. And...don't forget...ASK for something for sleep, or an anti-anxiety med...or an anti-depressant if you get to that point. You cannot make clear, informed decisions if you are sleep-deprived.
Leesa....glad you made it thru # 2 okay.
Count me in for the 28th! I just might wear something girly!
I will have to catch up later...DH is off to a district retirement party so I will have the computer to myself.
Everyone...have a great day and stay warm. Seems kinda silly to say that on May 15th, but I think it's chilly out.
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Good Evening ladies...
Wendy..is that really you out there lol. I have missed you terribly..no morning graphics or funny jokes..you had us very worried..hope all is well now and glad to see that you are coming to the lunch bunch..you know it would not be the same without you. lol
Rita.. we have Wendy, Laura, Smerf, Leesa, Mich, Connie, Maryjane,Janclare you and me. Looks like we maybe a little loud. lol If anyone would like to join us , please let me know asap.
Laura..in Vegas...at the pool..looking hot in that orange bathing suit...hope you win big. Did you bring the elephant bling...have a great time.
Leesa..chemo #2 done... yeah for you. Remember to drink all your water to stay hydrated...rest too.
Jackie..sorry you have to be so far away from home..Does the VA have extended stay places for you to use when you are far from home. Like a Ronald McDonald house..they should help pay for your stay since they want you near them...Just a thought.
Smerf..so how was the big birthday..did you and the workers celebrate your day. lol Hope they are not to messy in the house.
Jule..I too am allergic to hospital tape. I had very large blisters from tape. I used Vit E cream on them and it helped me.
Connie.. are you all rested from your trip..
Mich..glad you can make it to dinner. It will be nice to meet you .
Karin..glad to see you are posting again. Hope is all well with you.
To everyone else I missed I hope you all have a great evening..
Off to the hairdresser for a new do..it will be a surprise do...maybe something fun lol. Will ck back later..
Remember be healthy..be happy...
Blackjack
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Good morning gals.......just a quick hop in to tell everyone to have a nice day. The sun is finally out! Surely mother nature has made a mistake! LOL I really need to mow if it dries out enough before I head for a round of golf later this afternoon. The dandelions are taller than the grass....very tacky!
How's the new "do" Blackjack?
I hope the MRI was uneventful, Michele. Did you end up getting both sides done or only the one?
WAM..the countdown is on! Enjoy these last few days and remember that the sooner it all begins, the sooner you're back on the golf course and you will be able to golf during chemo. In fact, it will probably become your number one therapy! Hugs to you!
Wendy and Kater...we've got to work on these technology problems! We can't have you both MIA because you are indeed missed!!!
Laura...WIN, WIN, WIN! I can't remember the exact day you fly out (and perhaps you have already left by now) but have fun, enjoy the Vegas environment, and show those slots that you're the BOSS!!!
Leesa...hope you're getting along just fine today! What an inspiration you are to us!
Sharon...I've been thinking about you and hoping that things are going well for you. If at all possible, please check in!
Gotta get moving! Have a great day! I won't be around much this weekend because I'm going to be spoiling those two little grandsons! I'll catch up on all the posts on Sunday night or Monday.
Rita
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Hi Ladies- I am checking in. You guys write so much. If I miss a couple of days looking at the boards, there has been a whirlwind of activities and a whirlwind of names. We are a busy bunch.
First of all, Blackjack, put me down for dinner on the 28th.
I am in the states just now. One night a few weeks ago when I was still in RAamallah, West Bank, Israel I started thinking of my four sons in Chicago, their wives, and grandchildren and started crying. My DH said, why don't you fly over for a month and spend some time with them. I thought he was kidding. However, he kept on me and convinced me he was not kidding (Of course I have some office work to finish during the meantime). So Wednesday I flew back for a short trip until June 18th. I am going to go to one DR. appointment, but expect no trouble. Big one is MRI/mammograms in August to check my liver/pancreatic cysts for"substantial cystic stability". My kids when they heard I was coming automatically assumed the worst.
Slept 10 hours last night. I don't sleep on airplanes.
Good to be back. I have to try to keep up with all of your guys activites/treatments, etc. Like the pictures of the walk, and I accidentally found Jan Clares blog on the internet one day.
See you next week. Maybe I will bring some pictures of the Sea of Galilee, etc.
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Sharon, I think all will be thrilled that you can make the get together at Maggiano's ( sp. ). Nice that your hubby is so thoughtful and would not give up till you agreed on a taste of "home" for awhile. How fantastic.
Wendy....you must be swamped with something or AOL has dumped on you again.
Rita....enjoy those grandsons.
Jackie
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I HATE TECHNOLOGY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Okay...happy Wendy back......
It has been one thing or the other this whole week between phone, cell towers, dsl and then AOL. Then...I FINALLY get on the computer...and I couldn't log onto this forum! And then tonight...I finally get here....and all my graphics on photobucket went somewhere into cyberspace! Finally found them.....
Oh well....I have so much to catch up on...
Mich101, how did the MRI go?
Blackjack...how are you feeling? How's the new hair style? I thought you looked gorgeous the way you were, don't know how you could improve your look!
Jackie...bummer about not being able to do rads closer but....it is important as you know and you are such a trooper with how long your treatment is taking!!!! Let us know if you need some books, or maybe want to borrow some DVD's? I don't have many, but if you like Magnum PI we have a couple of years of that, and "24" and I have some classic movies like "Casablance" and the "Grapes of Wrath". Let me know!
Sharon....Yay!!!!! I am so glad you can make dinner on the 28th! PLEASE bring some pictures!
WAM....or as I think of you...Wendy the Younger...sounds like Rita is indeed keeping you busy! PM me anytime, or have Rita give you my e-mail.
Julie...how are you doing? Need anything? Can you come to our dinner on the 28th out by Woodfield, or will you be right in the middle of treatment? Not sure about your schedule due to my missing so many posts....
DH back from his walk (isn't it nice out??? Finally!) and he wants to watch last night's CSI as he wasn't home so I need to sign off...everybody have a wonderful evening!
And...I know I missed a lot of people...but you know I think about you guys all the time, and I hope you are happy and healthy and taking care of yourselves.
Tops down, fists up!
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Good Evening Ladies...hope everyone is enjoying this wonderful weather...the sun is shining for that Vit. D we all need lol
Sharon.. I am soooo happy that you can come to the lunch bunch...I thought you were flying in from Israel just to come to dinner, dah..reread that you were home visiting your family..lol
Wendy.. missed you and I am so glad that you are posting again.
I got a new a do that is fun and spiky..different so I will see how many days I can play with it. If not then back to the old do lol
Laura..did you win big yet..How is the Tropicana pool.??? Any cute cabana boys..lol
Jackie..when do you start rads..need a care package of books yet. let me know.
Smerf...had tests today..was there for 3 hrs. Had a student doing it first then had a real tech person come in and redo it. I was just a little p*ssed to say the least. Thank god it was just an ultrasound...
Rita.. we are up to 11 girls for dinner..anyone else I missed..let me know
Leesa..are you feeling better and resting..any chemo symptoms yet...big hugs to you.
Kater..added you to the list for dinner...6pm 5/28 Weds. Maggiano's Schaumburg.
Jule..hope you are feeling a little better after your meeting. Things will get better..just take one day at a time.
Have to go exercise now...have a great evening..will ck back later..
Remember be healthy..be happy..
Blackjack
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Long story, short, I did have both sides MRI'd. I'll explain at dinner. The techs were all wonderful and the machine is annoying, but they gave me headphones with music. Overall it wasn't bad, now I just have to wait for the results. I'm suppose to see my doctor on Wed.
I am looking forward to the dinner to meet all of those that I have not met yet. Sharon, glad you're able to join us.
Everyone, enjoy your weekend.
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Hi All!
Of course today was beautiful and I was busy reading and thinking up questions before my final pre-op appointment with my ps. I would have enjoyed playing golf instead or doing anything else for that matter. I hope you all got to enjoy the day!
I have a couple of questions that I am hoping someone can answer. I am having a modified radical mastectomy with immediate reconstruction (expander/implant) on May 21st.
During my appointment, we were going over the specifics and the nurse told me that I would need to wear a pullover sports bra immediately following the surgery and then for up to six weeks. She said I would only be able to take it off to shower. I was surprised that it was not one that zipped or hooked up the middle. I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions and how the whole thing works with drains and a port?
Also, I would like to know from your experiences how long it takes to get back to normal activity? I am hoping to be back golfing with Rita sooner rather than later. The doctor told me that it would be at least six weeks.
My anxiety levels are growing as the count down to surgery continues.
Wendy, I got your email address from Rita and sent you a note.
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Hi ladies,
Just wanted you to know I'm looking forward to dinner on the 28th. I'm anxious to meet you girls that I haven't met and see again the ones I met in Long Grove last December. Rita and I are leaving early (like REALLY early) on Wednesday and doing some shopping before we meet you for dinner. As you can probably imagine from the energy level of our duchess, we "shop until we drop". (I am always ready to drop long before she is so we have frequent caffeine stops along the way.
)See you the 28th.
MaryJane
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Morning all!!!!First things first....WAM (Wendy the Younger)...I didn't get any e-mail from you! But then....I delete e-mails from people I don't know but I looked thru my recently deleted stuff and didn't see anything there either! So I'm not ignoring you, I can't find you! Maybe send me a PM with your e-mail address so I will know it's you...we don't post e-mail addy's here as this is a public forum. Sorry I can't help with the surgery aspect as I only (ONLY????) had a lumpectomy. Don't know why tho they want you to have a pullover sports bra...would think that would be difficult, and painful,to put on. One thing I do know is that Walmart sells the zipup kind.
Blackjack....can't imagine you in spikey hair! I bet you look adorable! I used Garnier's Super Sculpt when my hair was really short and it held...or would have held...for days, had I not washed my hair every morning!
Mary Jane...looking forward to meeting you!
I'm still not caught up with everyone....but I hope wherever you are in your journey with this disease that today will prove to be a good day for you. I'm off to shower (and I know you will all be pleased with that) and then to hunt down some more stuff for the deck. BD party tonight so no cooking today....YAY!!!!
Wendy the Younger....please resend your e-mail. I'd like to help in any way I could.....or just PM it to me.
Tops down, fists up!
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Beautiful Sat. morn here.....hope it's so for everyone. Will be close to 80 today....hmmm, going to be nice.
Blackjack, yeah for big changes, and I bet it's adorable on ya.
WAM....I only had a lumpectomy ( like Wendy ) but my surgeon did tell me to bring a regular bra--tight one, with me and be prepared to wear it for several weeks. It really did help although I was skeptical in the beginning. While wearing it I felt fine, but gravity really made itself known ( and understood ) the minute I took it off for my first shower. I had to have kitty baths for a couple of days if memory serves. Hmmm, didn't think I'd forget much but already I'm dim.
Wow....if Maggiano's keeps up the free dessert tradition they are really going to have to ante up this time huh ????? Sure glad it's a big group....that is the only way so far that I can put a face with a name for now which is true of a lot of us. One of these days though I'll change that.
I'm still a little bummed about the rads in Marion, but life will go on. I have not as yet been contacted by the clinic that will be taking care of that. The V.A. farms that out---another reason why I wondered? why couldn't they do it closer to home for me, but they must have a really good situation going.....paying for a motel and transport to and from the rads clinic and to and from the V.A. cafeteria doesn't sound exactly cheap to me. Well, they probably have something set up with all these entities someway. I'm just lucky that it's all there for me---even if I have to live away from home for 6 weeks.....just got my fingers crossed that it doesn't screw up my vacation plans with daughter Kate.
Well, i'm getting ready to fix some breakfast....hope you all have a fantastic Saturday....be back later to check in again.
Jackie
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WAM-I had a mast w/ immed lat. flap recon (tissue exp). When I awoke from surgery I was in an elastized tube top with velcro closure. (They gave me a similar top when I had the implant put in.)
I can't remember how long I wore that before I purchased a sports bra w/ hook closures in the front. A pullover sports bra sounds very difficult and painful. You may want to have them clarify that.
I was also sent home from the hospital with this nice cotton sleeveless top, that velcro'd in the front and had pockets in the inside to put the things (where the fluid collects?) from the drain tubes. They are really nice, you may want to ask about it. I can find out where to get them if you are interested.
Wishing you all the best on the 21st and continue to ask questions!!
What kind of recon. are you having?
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Hi everyone. My name is Brenda and I'm from Decatur. I just found this site this eve. I was dx w/stage III-A BC in 8/07. I had 5 out of 10 nodes positive. I've completed my chemo (started 10/4 - ended 3/28/08. - had to take a break in December) - I've now had 17 rad's & will finish6/4. I find out what pill I will be on 5/30.
This is the 1st time I've reached out to any support groups. I was glad to find this site.Has anyone had problems with swelling in feet, ankles, and legs after chemo (taxol)? I've been battling this a few weeks before chemo ended. I'm54 yrs old btw. Thanks, Bren
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Hi Brenda
I had swelling, my regular dr. gave me some pills but it eventually went down, i only took the pills one day...the oncologist didnt think or comment much about it..
welcome aboard and we are SORRY you had a reason to find us!
Hugs
Kater
i was taking l glutamine for offsetting neuropathy.
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off topic ? nutrition
it seems vets are the same as drs....nutrition class is an elective not required.
i went to drkarenbecker.com talk today...feeding dogs and cats
what they were intended to eat, raw meat!
i spent hours tonight cutting up 8 or 10 chickens, after first two packages i got the electric knife out from years of storage!
also looked at morton bldgs for future project. 8-)
may 22 i'm going to drkarynmitchell.com to learn MORE about raw food for PEOPLE>
drkarenbecker in july and october is talking about people and cancer/eating in Elgin.
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