Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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CLC
and Edward Villella, and Barishnikov (sp?) and Peter Martins, oooh....lots of wonderful role models...I already LOVE your kids, BTW, really - I saw Nureyev in New York, yup, I'm that old
I also saw the Alvin Ailey dancers in 1973 - and yes, that means JUDITH JAMISON herself dancing CRY...oh, my....Wade in the Water, what days....can still SEE the white dress, getting goosepimples as I write...
OK - back to reality FOCTOBER is from Barbe, and I WANNA T SHIRT FOR everyday in Foctober - long sleeve cuz it will be cold here...and I want it BLACK with the letters in WILD neon colors...in case anyone knows how to get this done.
Pagan rituals, I wanna be in Kitty's family too....
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Sunflowers...thanks...I love them, too! I am jealous...Nureyev?! I wish I had seen him... And Alvin Ailey company... Wonderful!
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I saw Nureyev dance with Margot Fonteyn. This is back in the day when even poor people could afford tickets to the ballet.
CLC did the link to Breaking Pointe work? Here is a link to Ballet West, the ballet of the film.
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I was lucky to see both the Kirov and the Bolshoi in Russia back in 1975 and don't you know the Kirov danced Swan Lake
but personally I would rather go to a baseball game...
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I've also been lucky enough to see Nureyev, Barishnikov, Alvin Ailey..yes I'm also that old...in fact it seems there's quite a bunch of old crones here! CLC you and your dancing wizard might enjoy a British film called Billy Elliot, set in the north of England. Bill's dad (miner) sends him to boxing lessons but all Billy wants to do is dance. Bitter sweet movie about loss (Billy's mother has recently died), gender issues, social problems (miners are on strike in Maggie Thatcher's Britain), ....not sure if too tough for your boy, but you'd certainly enjoy it, as would many of you on this thread I suspect.
Anyone seen it? You don't need to be over 50 to have done so!
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Haven't seen it - yet, but I LOVE Julie Walters...just LOVE her.
We've got a tv station which just shows movies - last night they aired The Man who Walked Up a Hill and Came Down a Mountain. Sweet, Hugh Grant. Tara Fitzgerald. Takes place just after WWI in Wales. I LOVE British movies about that era.
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notself...I haven't had a chance to really sit down and check it out again...I will give it another shot later...I've been out hiking and now off to make dinner... I really appreciate the links...I am sure I will find it...
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Yeah...notself...I've got Breaking Pointe now...I might watch it with the kids later tonight...Thanks!
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New York Times Sunday Magazine 8/26/12 http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/26/magazine/from-bible-belt-pastor-to-atheist-leader.html?ref=magazine
Interesting reading...
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Sunflowers, Really interesting article. Thanks for sharing. I'm sure he really sticks out like a sore thumb in DeRidder. Even Houston had only 1 Unitarian church.
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im not an atheist, actually on the opposite spectrum. but i am sooo happy you friended me and i promose not to pray for you if you dont want me to..lol we r all in this together, and we need each and eveyone one of our diversities. hope you r feeling well today! will you still buy my book if/when i write it..lol
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The article was fascinating and thank you for posting it, Sunflowrs.... The thing is, he is not really unique. Google christians who became atheists and there are a bunch. I guess logic and reason just overcomes superstition for these folks. SUsan, I respect your beliefs though I don't agree. Prayer doesn't help in my opinion so I don't need you to pray for me. At the same time, I will never try to preach atheism to you. To each his own.
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Wren,
If I came out as an atheist in my town things would be difficult. In small towns people like conformity of ideas. Difference makes them uncomfortable. I would also have one, maybe both, of my nieces refuse to let me see my grandnieces and grandnephews. They are already uncomfortable because I don't go to church.
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I guess there are advantages to larger places
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SoCalLisa,
I want it all. I want the privacy of big cities and the sense of making a difference in a small town. I want the cultural life of big cities and the clean air, clean water and beautiful environment of a small town.
The thing that I do sincerely miss about large cities is diversity, the sense of belonging to a larger society.
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The neat thing about where I live is that we do have ALL of that.. I guess that is why we chose to live here. Lucky me, I guess.
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I lived for many years in San Diego and to me at least there is no unfettered nature anymore. There are too many freeways, subdivisions and malls. The nearest 6 lane highway to us is 100 miles away. We have one 4 lanr road about 20 miles long that runs near town. All of the rest of the roads are one lane each way and have lots of curves.
Living in the Ozarks is living in a natural environment. I guess the closest one could get to the feeling of living in the Ozarks would be what it was like to live in Pine Valley in the 1960s. Our mountains aren't has high but the lower elevations allows for more species of trees; hardwoods, pines, cedars, dogwood, redbud, etc. We have an incredible Spring and if conditions are right, breathtaking Fall.
Of course we are missing the Pacific Ocean.
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notself...I lived in the Ozarks for a few short years. I lived just outside of Fayetteville. My mother lived just outside of Eureka Springs. It is a truly beautiful place. Roads with lots of curves reminded me of "The Pig Trail." I don't recall what route it was, but it switched back and forth for miles and miles and miles. Do you know the route I am talking about?
I can't do the city thing. I lived in New Orleans for a few years. That was all the city I will ever do. I get antsy being in NYC for the day. Can't wait to come back across the bridge. My house is on 4 acres of woods, among many lots that are not developed. We live at an elevation of about 1300 or 1400ft. The Delaware River (the upper river, don't think George Washington) is 5 or so miles away. We have many different animals. I am very fond of the turkeys. My husband has 8 garden beds and we eat fresh, ultralocal veges all summer. I could never go back to the city. But, I, too, wish I had a diversity of people around. But not enough to go back to the noise, cars, smells and general congestion of the city.
I think I would love an atheist church. Interesting article, Sunflowers!
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bevg - I think the fact article was in the New York Times Sunday Magazine, explaining just what you said, how much more common it is, is what we're all learning. Also, sadly, what notself knows, some people are really threatened, as the article states, by people who have different thoughts/feelings about reigion.
Never been to the Ozarks, biggest city I need now is Northampton, ad that makes me smile, thinking of how many years I spent living in very large cities. Ah, the joy of knowing oneself and being able to live it. Bliss.
Don't know who susan was talking to - I'm not on any friending site, but certainly feel sympathy for anyone dealing with bc.
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We actually live in a small community in unincorporated San Diego county. But 30 minutes from the city.
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CLC, I know the road you're talking about.
SoCalLisa, Our town is 12,000 people and is the largest town for 2 hours. The next closest town is 1000 people and 20 minutes away. Your small community is a city to us.
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I live on the tiniest of islands which would be swallowed up by NY City I should imagine... land is at a premium and there aren't many places where you can look out and not see a building of one kind or another, unless you look out to sea of course. The entire population is 400,000, but Malta is still really densely populated as it's so small, but I don't think it 'feels' like a city. Having said that, I've lived abroad in various countries, and although I love all the things you can do in a big city, I find that I wouldn't want to live in one now... I do feel envious of the descriptions of nature in the places you all live!
Sunflowers, I really enjoyed that article...well, here everyone was brought up Catholic, and there is a growing Humanist movement made up entirely of ex Catholics... but yes, quite a few religious people feel threatened by the Humanists... possibly because they are sometimes a bit too critical of the church and somewhat aggressive.. they alienate people, not like the gentle preacher in the newspaper article.
SocaLisa, what's the latest re your feet?
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notself, I wouldn't out myself in the Ozarks either. My aunt & uncle lived in Rogers until his death. We used to drive over from Okla to see the redbuds and dogwoods in the spring. Very beautiful country.
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No, the Ozarks is no place to declare you are an atheist. I had to go to an attorney's office in Northwest Arkansas. I had a very very very Jewish maiden name. When I introduced myself to the receptionist, she said..."Are you a JEW?" with a great deal of emphasis on the Jew part. I think I may have been the first she ever met. (Not that I am or ever was Jewish. My father's ancestry was...my mother, on the other hand, was as WASP as you can get...even the Irish ancestors were protestant...). I was very uncomfortable and a little concerned for my safety. I cannot imagine what would have happened if I'd responded..."No, I am an atheist." Sigh.
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CLC,
I do know some other atheists in town, but we are all in the closet. There is definitely a touch of fear that prevents us from letting our beliefs be known. I have received glares because people suspect that I am not a Christian based on the fact that I don't use the jargon in everyday speech the way people do here.
Dx 8/07,IDC, 2.4cm, Stage IIa, Grd 2, 0/8 nodes, ER+PR+Her2 -+ --'I am a religious agnostic because of science, an atheist because of probability, and an anti-theist because of religion'. ---PZ Myers
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This was a good way to start out my morning, in front of my PT's office
Maria, they are still working on my foot...Very large bone spur...
Notself, our population is 12,400
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I've lived in NYC all my life. While there are a lot of things about small town life that seem appealing, I would not be happy having to be in any kind of closet. My son lived in a small town in Texas while in the military. When we visited our grandkids, I found it horrifying. I am of Jewish origin, my husband catholic (both atheists now).... Portland Tx was all Christian, all Republican. I am always debating religion and politics (in a friendly way) on FB and in my real life in NY.... In Texas, I'm afraid I would have gotten shot hahahahaha.... Everyone has a gun....
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bevg40,
I don't talk politics here. I don't know if this is widely known but Republicans send out the most outrageous emails about Democrats to people. These are carefully structured so no one knows the original source but people keep passing them on to friends. To say they are false is to understate the situation. They are hate filled and frightening. When someone starts talking about one, I ask if they have checked it out on Snopes, Factcheck.org, or PolitiFact.org.
One woman, after I talked to her, got another one of these emails. She asked the person who sent it to her if he had checked to see if the email was true. He responded by saying that it didn't matter if it was true or not, just pass it on.
I don't think the Democratic Party really understands what it's dealing with.
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That's pretty scarey stuff notself. It sounds like the theory of repeating a lie so often that it sounds like the truth is being helped inadvertently by technology.
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