Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Posted this before, but continues to describe me and maybe other Cadbury lovers
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Ooh, that's me! I worship Our Lady of the Lemon Filled Doughnut.
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This is from Cadbury too. Hard to find, lives up to the name. But better than American chocolate.0 -
Spookie: had to look up Cadbury Flake. It is available on line from you know who, but not quite ready for a 12 or 24 pack.
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I am a very liberal Jew who was born Catholic but "made my way home." My Jewish beliefs do NOT include a god who intercedes in much of anything in this day. But the god I believe in gifted humans with the ability to learn and care and improve and cure. So, essentially, SCIENCE.
However we gained those abilities, we have them and we're supposed to use them! To heal and alleviate suffering and for good.
If and when someone offers to pray for me, I do say "thanks" and recognize it's usually their way of saying "I'm with you!"
When I meet up with someone who is going through trials, I'll usually say "I'm with you," or "Thinking of you" or "Sending you healing energy."
I actually often think that the people for whom those thoughts and supplications apply and to whom they should be "sent" are the medical personnel caring for all of us, that they might be insightful and wise, be professionally using the latest and best treatments, and come to us at every meeting and encounter with open hearts and warmth.
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Interesting points michele...
My reply when people tell me how they feel blessed, I simply respond, I feel privileged. Big difference. No deity needed.
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I believe there is something better waiting on the "other side". Do I believe there is "something" out there that looks after us? NO. If so that "being" would in my book be an asshole. To look on and see suffering without interceding.... well thats not someone i care to meet.
That said I have experienced (as have other people) haunting's if that's what u want to call them. I believe we are energy that keeps being recycled.
If someone says they will pray for me I just say thank you.
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KIDI919
I also think there's some form of life recycling based on a handful of inexplicable incidents, but I don't think it has a thing to do with any religion or spiritual persuasion. To me, it's just another part of nature that hasn't been completely investigated - and I kind of like it that way.
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AliceB, No I don't think it has anything to do with religion either. I think of it as the cycle we see in nature.
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Maybe it's something that happens as we become mulch. 🤪
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LOL AliceB. I thought I might want to come back as a cat but with my luck it would be an alley cat.
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Kid, alley cats can have fun
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So I came across the following memes on Facebook. I haven’t verified that what they claim is one hundred percent factual, but the main idea that the Bible was heavily edited and has questionable interpretation is certainly one that I have read about. I’d be interested in hearing anyone’s comments.
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👍👍
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The Bible stories are basically fictional and based on hyperbolic hearsay transcribed into texts written hundreds of years previously.
Basically, they are propaganda, and were (still are) used by church hierarchy to preach their version of christianity.0 -
Yep and written by men. Generally to control women. Propaganda at it's finest.
Magiclight: alley cats do have fun!!
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And those Bible stories were written generations after the purported events they describe.
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I can remember as a young person under the age of 18, I don’t remember exactly how old I was, but I learned about the dead sea scrolls. I’m not sure how I came about the information but it certainly was not in church (I was raised Catholic). But I learned the scrolls were written by men and even at my young age, it raised such doubts in my logical mind. I could not figure out how it came to be that words written down by men were then claimed to be the word of God. It made no sense to my bewildered mind. I had these thoughts but could not truly articulate them to anyone because I felt that I would be chastised for questioning (deep voice here:) “the Word of God.” Which is precisely how they continue to control the flock, by suppressing any form of questioning “the faith”. I also had no confidence in my own logic. How could I question that which so many others believed in. Surely I was the one who was wrong, right? So I squashed those thoughts way, way down and continued to believe. I live in an area where most people are Christian so conformity was the rule of the land.
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I can't believe I haven't found you heathens before! I received this prayer card from relatives, which I'm keeping because I find it kind of hilarious.
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Moci: St Agatha was one of the virgin saints. Virginity is praised in women, but for men celibacy is praised and celibacy only asks if a man gave up sex, for a moment, an hour, etc.
In Hannah Gatsby's comedy show 'Douglas" she refers to St. Bernard and all that was required of him to become a saint was a wet dream about the virgin Mary squirting breast milk in his face. Too many paintings of that to number, but here is one example. A pretty low bar for sainthood
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The St. Agatha thing is WTF enough, but St. Gets His Rocks Off While Mary Squirts Boob Juice In His Face is, simultaneously, the most horrific and hilarious thing I've ever seen. It's more proof that the religion was designed for men, by generations of men who were the incels of their time periods.
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I was diagnosed at the age of 52 in 2016. I am 100% an Athiest. There are so many things that you can rely on and turn to besides religion that will support you. For me it was Yoga, meditation and family. Stuff that actually exists you know. In any case good luck with your journey. You will find the things that give you strength.
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Poor St. Agatha having to suffer pain and torture for the lord. JEESHE. Then St. Bernard, u can't make up this shit.
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rnorak, I love your sentiment that we can turn to and rely on real things to support us.I realize this is an atheist thread, but what norak said reminded me of what Roseanne Cash wrote in her autobiography, “Composed". Cash does not foist her views on anyone, she only explains wherein her life she finds meaning and and it is not in religion but through art and music, both her own and that of others:
“We all need art and music like we need blood and oxygen. The more exploitative, numbing, and assaulting popular culture becomes, the more we need the truth of a beautifully phrased song, dredged from a real person's depth of experience, delivered in an honest voice; the more we need the simplicity of paint on canvas, or the arc of a lonely body in the air, or the photographer's unflinching eye. Art, in the larger sense, is the lifeline to which I cling in a confusing, unfair, sometimes dehumanizing world. In my childhood, the nuns and priests insisted, sometimes in a shrill and punitive tone, that religion was where God resided and where I might find transcendence. I was afraid they were correct for so many years, and that I was the one at fault for not being able to navigate the circuitry of dogma and ritual. For me, it turned out to be a decoy, a mirage framed in sound and fury. Art and music have proven to be more expansive, more forgiving, and more immediately alive. For me, art is a more trustworthy expression of God than religion.“
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DIvine - lovely. Thanks for posting.
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I don't have a need for belief in, or guidance from a supernatural patriarchy - a supernatural anything. I never have done. I can't imagine someone wanting to turn to faith in a deity who allowed them to develop cancer, but clearly people do. I would find that a very difficult route to finding some sort of meaning or purpose to my disease or pain. If religion brings someone solace with their cancer then that is a good thing. But it's certainly not for me.
I get my inspiration, hope, comfort, sense of peace, sense of feeling grounded and so on from family, friends, creativity, helping others, the company of animals, nurturing my garden, the beauty of nature, feeling part of this planet, and so many other things.
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Too-Ticky
Your second paragraph sums it all up for me. I got interested in Pantheism at one time because of the emphasis on nature, but some proponents/adherents are way too into Ayn Rand 🤮 and her anti-humanistic greedy shit. It's ridiculous that people who proclaim a love for nature would be so enamoured of someone who believed in digging it up or paving it over to make the rich even richer. If I feel the need to declare an affinity (not quite an affiliation) for anything, I'll call myself a humanist. With a small h.
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Too true for me not to post!!
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Magiclight: love it
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well back to what we were talking about. I believe in "life" after death because we see it every spring. IDK if we return as someone else, or what happens because it is unknown to us all. Is there some guy up in the sky....NOPE. I have a dislike of religion. Everyone SO sure their way is the only way. My MIL has told me several times my family is going to hell because we don't believe her way. Add in a gay daughter and u can see that, that went over like a lead balloon. That said I believe that those who are "gone" can sometimes send us a message. When my father was dying I lived in VA. As a teen my car got a lot of flat tires .Dad would bitch and say "WHERE the HELL are you driving this car !?( LOL corn fields etc to have sex) Hospice called me and said if I wanted to see my Dad one last time I should fly to Buffalo right away. I had 3 small children, so I jumped in the car with them (told nurse I was driving and she was doubtful Dad would would live that long.) I drove the whole way like a bat out of hell. Stopped once to feed the kids. When I got to my Mom's the phone rang, it was hospice saying my Dad had passed. I actually like that word... passed to somewhere. The next day I got up and I had a flat tire. On the drive I could hear my Dad's voice telling me to stop driving like a crazy person. I feel that flat tire was a message from Dad. At the funeral my BIL's brother asked me about my drive. He said " if you hadn't have stopped to eat you probably could have seen your Dad one last time". What a fing asshole.
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