Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Trishyla: I am speechless. Well - I'd rather be in Hell then to be with any of that lot. But then, I don't be in Heaven or Hell. So I just don't want to be with them in this life
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Wow. That's horrible. I'm also in a conservative, Trump supporting pocket of California.
Hi, all. I wanted to join the conversation with some fellow atheists. Thanks for the humor in your posts.
Can anyone relate to this? I've shared my dx with close friends and family but don't post anything on FB. On FB I have a number of really religious people who were friends from my high school days. (I wasn't raised in religion but when we moved to an ultra religious town that was the only way to have a social life.) I don't want to see them say they are praying for me, feel sorry for me, or be judgmental since I've "lost the Lord". Maybe I'm just a coward or as I tell myself, just like my privacy. What would you do?
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Trishyla - Wow! That demonstration of bad behavior is seriously sick.
kris_2000 - I find Facebook another religion which I think is equally abhorrent to other religions. So, just as I am not a member of an organized religion, I do not now have nor have I ever had a Facebook account. I think all of them find the most vulnerable of society to manipulate and appeal to individual's lesser selves. So, if these high school 'friends' are still your real friends, reach out to them via phone or email to see if you still are friends as adults. However, if as an adult, these are not people who you would befriend normally, let them go. You don't need to tell every Tom, Dick & Harry your most personal events. Problem solved!
Jane
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I don't do Facebook either. My real friends I communicate with by email, phone and now that we are vaccinated in small social bubbles. I don't care about linking up with someone I haven't seen since Grade Three.
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I'm happy to hear the Catholic church is losing members. It still has like literally a billion worldwide tho, doesn't it?
i have been loosely following the Josh Duggar case, you all probably know he was accused of receiving and possessing child sex abuse material and today, he was found guilty. The religion he belongs to, that “quiverfull" Independent Baptist movement, is such a cult. I'm relieved he will finally go to prison. But such hypocrites. A few years ago, his mother made a robocall against homosexual rights. Maybe she should have addressed her own family issues instead of attacking others.
Trish, I'm very impressed with how you dealt with the abhorrent Christian woman who came to your booth. She may never change her views but you gave her good food for thought. Early on as the parent of a toddler I had the urge to spank my son and then had a realization that I was the one with the problem of getting angry over something a little kid was doing. I decided to change my way of looking at situations, and how I reacted and dealt with them. I still got mad about stuff but he had things like time outs or loss of privileges and I never spanked him. We have a great relationship and he's a terrific person of whom I'm so proud.
I have never brought up living with metastatic breast cancer on FB. People in my family and close friends know, but I use FB more for light socialization and not deeply personal things. The thing with FB is you can make it be what you want. I control it, it doesn't control me.
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I've never mentioned BC on Facebook. The people I want to know were told and it's not distant people's business. I'm mainly on Facebook to keep up with former co-workers and the kids I used to babysit. I look at lots of cat photos.
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Thanks for your opinions. I'll probably continue to keep it to myself unless I get to a point that I want to remove everyone that I'm no longer close to.
I agree FB can be what you want it to be. It doesn't preoccupy my time and when I do use it, it's to share with family and close friends so I don't have to email 20 people.
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Trishyla, hooray for you telling that child abuser what's what! We need more of that.
I'm on FB and I love it. My only "friends" on there are the family members I like, and people who are friends in real life. I've finally added four or five long-time friends of friends, like the old-fashioned letter of acquaintance, and they're people who I had been having conversations with on the mutual friend's page and found them satisfactory. It's also where I've found the only decent kidney cancer group that has actual useful information. Overall, FB is what YOU want it to be. No one forces you to interact with anyone you don't want to. For me, it's been my main social outlet since I haven't worked in almost ten years and those co-workers are still my friends.
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I don't use FB either, though it does mean I miss out on a lot of news from the club I belong to. Long ago in the mid 2000-aughts, I did have an account under an alias. But then they decided they wanted "real names". I got a pop up window asking me, "Is 'John Dinkins' your friend's real name? Please help us maintain a real names environment." I knew if I was being asked about aliases, so were my friends who knew mine. And I didn't trust many of them not to out me. (Nice people, but not very aware of personal boundaries sometimes.) So I completely deleted my account.
If you don't want to share personal info on FB, you certainly don't have to. And with their invasive algorithms geared toward pushing conspiracy theory agendas (irony anyone?), I'd worry about what hogwash FB would try to feed me if their system tagged me as a cancer survivor. Cherry flavored ivermectin, maybe? Deionizing shampoo to block radio signals to my brain? No thanks.
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How do they know when you signed up that it was an alias? I wonder if people saddled with weird names get told they violate the code because it isn't who they are? Years ago, there was a young girl with the actual name of Blueberry Sunshine. Not her fault.
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They didn't know. And my alias was a normal name - just not mine. That's why they ask your friends, not you. Very sneaky and back door. If they ask you, they know you'll say, "yeah, that's my name!"
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I have FB friends who don't use their real name, and they haven't had problems. And even though I belong to a cancer group and mentioned breast cancer when I had it, I've only gotten a few generic cancer-related ads in their monthly ad flood. I turned off ad preferences so they're not targeted to me.
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Ads aren't so much the issue as "groups you might be interested in" and posts from other FB users. I don't want to feed that beast even in the slightest. I don't trust nor like Zuckerberg as far as I could throw him, so I choose not to give him any of my information or time to profit from. YMMV.
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I've only gotten posts from people I don't know a few times, and just report, block and delete them, and the group suggestions are very easy to ignore or just delete. I dislike Zuckerberg, but it's outweighed by liking to stay in touch with my family and friends. Some people said the same about Ma Bell when it was a communications monopoly and refused to have a phone. The spam on my phone is much more annoying, but again, report as spam, block and delete.
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My DH saw a license plate, "GZUSROX". He said it took all his will not to run her off the road.
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Spookiesmom, I'm not surprised about covid.
Stage IV folks, do any of you join the Monday or Wednesday MBC/stage IV calls?
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I caught a few clips of Billie Eilish on Saturday Night Live after she hosted and was musical guest last weekend. (She was fabulous all around!) All her skits were entertaining. In this one, Billie isn't necessarily the central characte but it doesn't matter. I just loved the irreverence of the subject matter, so comical ! Lol
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Kris, I’m on the zoom on Monday’s but will probably drop in on a Wednesday one, if I miss my regular day.
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Thanks, illimae. I was feeling alone in that department on the call this week so it's nice to know.
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I've been to 2 or 3 Monday stage 4 zooms but just can't seem to be organized enough to make it a regular thing ..
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Came across a few atheist quotes today.
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes. ~ Gene Roddenberry
If there is a God, atheism must seem to Him as less of an insult than religion. ~ Edmond De Goncourt
You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards, witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical, absurd and primitive stories, and you say that we are the ones that need help? ― Dan Barker
You'll pray for me? Great, thanks! I'll talk to my cat for you. Expect the same results.The whole image is that eternal suffering awaits anyone who questions God's infinite love. That's the message we're brought up with, isn't it? Believe or die! Thank you, forgiving Lord, for all those options. - Bill Hicks
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Divine: first and last quotes depict a narcissistic personality. A god who only is only responsible for the good stuff
Narcissism: Symptoms include an excessive need for admiration, disregard for others' feelings, an inability to handle any criticism, and a sense of entitlement.
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I just received a Merry Christmas EVERYBODY wish from my homeowners association. Wow! Did they miss the fact that EVERYBODY does not celebrate this made -up holiday. No mention of Hannukah or other religious holidays
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Divine, I especially like the cat one.
I celebrate Christmas, just a secular, family focused version.
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I like this goddess's style. She makes Santa look like a wuss
Perchta/Berchta was the upholder of cultural taboos, such as the prohibition against spinning on holidays. In the folklore of Bavaria and Austria, Perchta was said to roam the countryside at midwinter. She would know whether the children and young servants of the household had behaved well and worked hard all year. If they had, they might find a small silver coin the next day, in a shoe or pail. If they had not, she would slit their bellies open, remove their stomach and guts, and stuff the hole with straw and pebbles. She was particularly concerned to see that girls had spun the whole of their allotted portion of flax or wool during the year.[9] She would also slit people's bellies open and stuff them with straw if they ate something on the night of her feast day, other than the traditional meal of fish and gruel.
From more reading, she started out as a mostly benevolent goddess. As Christianity spread, they indulged in some nasty character assassination to make her seem like a petty, vindictive deity that the locals (the Alemannic German areas of southwestern Germany, western Austria, northern Switzerland and Alsace) would no longer follow. Sounds like nasty politics today. But January 6th is still called Berchtestag in some areas, with parades dedicated to her.
Gods of any type are just superstition, but at least the local gods of any given area make some sense for those locations.
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There was a rant in the paper about a local fake Bavarian town changing the name from Christmas lights to City of Lights - they're trying to spread people out throughout the week instead of massive visitors crammed together on the weekend. They were also upset that the Seattle Krampus group showed up in costume. The mayor said Krampus was not invited but could go anywhere they wanted because it's a free country. I would love to see the lights and they have snow. Wouldn't like the crowds.
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. I’ve been really open about my diagnosis and treatment, which leads to me telling the whole story to various people who are curious — I figure if it helps one person get a suspicious lump checked early then it’s worth it.
During one of these sessions, the woman I was talking to was very devout and kept saying “praise the lord,” complete with hand movements when I mentioned some good part about my cancer (caught early, responded to medication etc…). It was really uncomfortable and annoying. However, I also didn’t feel comfortable saying anything to her because she is someone I’m mentoring and she’s super sensitive to criticism and was already intimidated by me, so I just let it slide.
Now I’m questioning the decision of course. Later I found out she was asking a gay coworker what his plans were the the holidays and he was not comfortable talking to her about it because her Christianity made it much more likely that she would not be open to his life.
She’s in her late 50s/early 60s and returned to work a few years ago after raising her kids. So she’s in a junior role, but is also really unfamiliar with current office politics/sensitivity. I really want to tell her to leave it at home, but that also doesn’t feel fair to her because it’s clearly an important part of who she is, just as being gay is an important part of who my other friend is.
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