Is anyone else an atheist with BC besides me?
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Melbo - I agree that as uncomfortable as it would make me, it wouldn't be fair to ask her to leave it at home. If others talk about their lifestyle and beliefs, she might decide to leave it at home. If she were to criticize others or push her beliefs, then I think it would be fair to say something.
Unfortunately, I tend to just not talk about my beliefs or lack thereof around people like this either. I feel like a majority of the country is still religious. Maybe this isn't accurate though and most of us are just quiet about it.
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There’s a lot of pressure in my line dance class to conform. A couple times thy held hands and prayed and I didn’t join in. I did sit on the sidelines and bowed my head out of respect that they can believe if they want, I also avoid all the hugging these people do. They are just people I’ve met since summer. Why I gotta hug them when I see them? Plus…COVID! They go out to eat sometimes but I don’t go, Again, Covid. Honestly, I’m just there for exercise and because line dancing is fun. I don’t want to build a religious community around it for Pete’s sake!
I feel like they look at me as a lonely lost soul that they will try to convert (I’m not and they won’t). I won’t be disclosing to them that I live with mbc. We meet once a week but I’m taking a break until after the first of the year. If the pressure continues, I may ask if I am welcome there as I am. If not, I will look for another line dance class.
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Devine, who organized the class, and what type facility is it held in? A school, community center, church? That may give you some clues.
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Melbo, religion is a choice. A person's gender/sexual orientation are not. Please don't give them equal consideration, especially in the workplace. For your health story, when she reacts with thoughtless (AKA mindless) religious phrases, you can counter with "I had (or have) a great medical team." Not argumentative, just say it as a fact every time she tells you Sky Wizard caught your cancer - actually the same little bastard who gave it to you, for those who believe in that all-powerful Oz-in-the-sky.
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Spookie, the line dance class is a senior citizen group that meets at the city recreation building that was formerly a grade school. There is no outright religious connection. But for some reason, faith and God and whatnot keep cropping up in the classes.
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Love it DevineMrs.M!
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Those are great!
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Bwahaha!
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This thread gives me hope.
Just curious...what do you say when someone wishes you a merry xmas? I've started saying "happy solstice."
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Wally - I've even responded to several emails with "happy solstice 3 days late'.
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I sometimes wish them a happy Yuletide, as that was a pagan festival. Or Happy Festivus (for the rest of us). Or even just the old standby, Happy Holidays. I just never specify which holiday.
Happy "what-the-heck-ever" to my lovely pagan friends. Hope it's a peaceful, joyful day for all of us.
Trish
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I say Happy Holidays in places like here, or on FB where I know my friends include people who are not Christians. Around family, I say Merry Christmas because most of them are Christians, observant in many cases or secular like I am. Although I'm an atheist, I'm also a secular Christian due to cultural tradition. Maybe I'm more mellow about it right now because I've been reading quite a bit about the culture of some overlapping ancestral areas, where they kept so many pagan traditions after they converted to Christianity, and many of those traditions are still celebrated today alongside the Christian ones. So this fits in with how I've felt for many years about Christianity, keep the culture but not the beliefs.
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Merry Happy Everything. Covers just about all of it, and you don’t miss anything. Then add feed me.
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I love that on some threads BCO members are saying Happy Saturday....
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I love you guys. I wish I lived close to any and all of you!
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I am an atheist but have always loved Christmas. Christmas means Santa, presents, family, food and happiness in an otherwise challenging world for me. I never even knew who Christ was as my mother was also an atheist. I will always celebrate Christmas.
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Spookiesmom, you rock! 😆🎄🎅🥧🍪🍖🍛🍧🥐🍞🍲
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This was my Dad's FB post for the season:
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❤️❤️Yay dad!!!!
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That is a keeper for sure
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happy secular winter holiday!!!
Lol, naw, I usually say merry Christmas. Tim Minchin's (atheist) Christmas song really hits the nail on the head for me
"I really like Christmas
It's sentimental, I know, but I just really like it
I am hardly religious
I'd rather break bread with Dawkins than Desmond Tutu, to be honest
And yes, I have all of the usual objections
To consumerism, the commercialisation of an ancient religion
To the westernisation of a dead Palestinian
Press-ganged into selling Playstations and beer
But I still really like it"0 -
moth - I like that. I laughed at "Some of the hymns that they sing have nice chords, but the lyrics are dodgy".
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I admit to a weakness for the music - anything from classical to old-fashioned churchy stuff. (The modern crap is the worst ! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮) But lucky me, I don't sing, just play a few instruments badly, so I can completely ignore the lyrics. This year I was playing more German Christmas music, and since I know very little of the language, I was safe from subliminal conversion!
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Our local public radio station played a choral concert a while back. It was a classical choir singing black spirituals, and it just sounded so very wrong.
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Miriandra, those are so cringeworthy! They should just introduce them as "And now, here's the Tightass White Culture Vulture Chorale to completely butcher Black spirituals." Betcha they'd say the milder N word, though.
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Ha!! So true, Alice!
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