Stop Smoking Support Thread

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  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 403
    edited November 2009

    Mimi - it is those darn steriods that make you gain weight!!  You want to eat and eat and eat.  So much for losing weight during chemo - that is not happening much anymore.

    Chantix - it turns off the nicotine receptors in the brain.  In other words, you don't have the physical cravings for nicotine but it is the mental cravings that seem to be more hard to deal with.  I tried the patches, gum, acupuncture, etc. in the past and nothing else has worked as well as Chantix.  I have tried and failed to quit smoking 9 times in the past.  Most of it was because I was not only dealing with physical cravings but the emotional "need" to smoke.  

    The last time I quit for 17 days, pretty much I had it licked but I got so ticked off one day and went through so much stress that I picked up a cigarette and smoked ever since then again.  

    I have to treat myself like an alcoholic - I can't ever even have that "one" or I will start smoking again full time.

    This morning I had a dream that I was back to smoking and I was really mad at myself (in my dream).  I hate that!!  I can't even get away from cigarettes when I am sleeping!  I got up and took my Chantix right away.

    Mimi - hang in there - I am with you all of the way!

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 403
    edited November 2009

    No, I didn't fall off the wagonb but I sure felt like I got hit by a MAC truck!

    I stayed in bed all day long except for maybe 2 hours that I was on the internet.  I have slept for hours upon hours, not even watching TV.  I did read somewhere that it is possible that you will go through a couple of days where you will feel totally exhausted as the nicotine is trying to exit your body and you are not feeding it anymore.  I guess that was a true statement.

    My hubby went out and brought home fast food for dinner because I was too tired to cook.  We maybe eat fast food once every 2 months - it was pretty gross but it forced me out of bed to eat and come down to my computer for a minute.  I am heading back upstairs to bed.

    I have now completed 5 days!

  • Janzin
    Janzin Member Posts: 491
    edited November 2009
    Hello Ladies! Tomorrow is the big day and you won't believe what I did. I have failed every time this year. I have used the patch, Chantix and bought healthy snacks because I did not want to gain weight. I was trying to diet and quit smoking. So today, I was freaking out about tomorrow and I went to Wal-Mart and bought over $100 of munchies. Looked like I was having a huge party or a stoner with the major munchies. Potato chips, cookies, candies (some sugar free lol) and other fattening yummies. I also bought the nicotine gum. I really want this to work so I am telling myself the weight can wait, right now it's about kicking these butts. Nancy was right there with me as we added frozen munchies too, lol. I was thinking 3 days of munchies but now I look and it looks more like a couple of weeks. I can feel my heart beat like I am losing something I depend on everyday, or hour. But that is good because I know my mind is heading in the right place. I need to go through the heartbreak because if I don't, then I am not really planning on quitting. Don't want to say anything more because I am afraid of making an A$$ out of my self again.

    Jancie, I am so glad you made it!!! And you crack me up.Hmmmm.....A plant huh. I saw that in Medicine Man once, lol. They say it is hard to quit but even harder to stay quit. That's why we need to stay together even when we quit, to remind ourselves that horrible journey and not break down. Sending you positive thoughts and congrats on your 5 days, almost a week!!! This is your time, treat yourself.

    Mimi, I forgot where you are in your quit smoking. How many days do you have, sorry my memory is bad. I am on my last pack and I am staying up so I can smoke all of it, pretty bad huh. I am with you on the weight gain, hate it!!! I gained some weight from down time from surgeries and menopause and then lost most of it again. You will lose the weight again, you will find that just like you found the will to quit smoking. I try not to think about weight gain this time around as quit smoking is enough to deal with me. Sending you positive thoughts.

    FIfish, have to let you know that you made my friend really happy with your comment. Will post the last day of pictures soon, it was a blast. As we were taking the dead pics, people walked by smiling or laughing and Karla started having fun thinking about new poses and that's what is so cool about them. I know you are a good cook, wish I was there for some of your yummies at Thanksgiving.

    Nadine, hope your quit smoking is doing well, how many days do you have now? Nothing wrong with celebrating Thanksgiving twice, lol.Yum yum! I paid my taxes twice in one year now that is bad. Sending you sunshine on your quit days.

    Cleo, will let you know how it goes with my gum. Michelle quit on that so that thought is helping me. Sometimes I think all the quitting aids are just a way to help give courage to what you are about to face. Quitting stresses me out and right now I have a break between my next event before I am all worked up again. You will find your mental toughness if you keep working it. I remember I was diving off a cliff once and it took awhile before I could make that jump, got a bad sunburn, lol. That what quitting smoking reminds me of. Some people can jump quick, others need to take their time.

    Well this is a long post. Had to pour my heart out for tomorrow to help take that jump. So to wrap it up, keep posting to stay quit and keep posting to make that jump.

    Hugs to all, will reach out to all soon.
    Janet

  • flfish
    flfish Member Posts: 309
    edited November 2009

    I want some munchies!  That is funny stuff!!!  You can't smoke with Doritos stuffed in your mouth....bahahahahahaha

  • Janzin
    Janzin Member Posts: 491
    edited November 2009

    Funny Fifish!  I am still working it but feel a little depressed. Afraid to do anything in case I get an urge so bad it sucks me in again. So I have been a bedroom hermit, playing games and waiting to go to bed. Jancie I feel tired too. Haven't munched out yet, always get an urge after eating and I am tired of trying to quit again and again. Not sure if you get an urge like I do after eating Mimi but it seems like the urges only last a few minutes after eating but STRONG. Last time the second day was bad for me, but I keep thinking about what you said KK697. I try not to think about work or stress. Going to take a bath with candles and meditate. By the way, gum taste terrible O2Bhealthy, lol. Might have to tell me your favorite flavor, and I bought the huge bargain pack. Cleo, I have patches and Chantix left if you want to try any of them, I can mail it to you. The

    So my trick of the day is to pamper myself, go to bed early and don't forget the meds :) Make a list of to do's for tomorrow such as TD shopping, and try to get some things done. Will let you know how tomorrow goes.

    Looking forward to hearing from Pantufas, Nadine, Nobleanna, Cleo, MB, Malleme, Denise, REKoz, Candie, who haven't posted in while. Sorry if I forgot anyone, brain is on the last couple of weeks postings.

    Sweet dreams all!
    Janet

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 851
    edited November 2009

    Hi ladies I am done it's been 2 days.  It's going o.k. for now.  I've never been a big smoker anyway, usually only about 2-3 packs a week.  I tend to smoke more in times of stress.  I am not using any Chantix or nicotine gum.  Chantix is too expensive and my insurance doesn't cover it and I really don't think nicotine gum is that helpful.  My biggest stress reliever came today... I found out I don't have to do Chemo, only Rads and then one of the AI's like Femara or Arimidex, etc.  I was so excited.  I just wanted to shout from the mountain tops. 

    Good luck Janzin, keep on hanging in there.  If I could hibernate I would!

    Hugs and Sweet Dreams!

    Renee

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 403
    edited November 2009

    I came so close to buying a pack today.  I was so *$*&#^^$&*$* off that I couldn't see straight and that is always when I start up again.  I can't tell you how many prayers I have said in the past 5 hours for strength to get through tonight.  I have taken 2 valium already and 1 lortab.  I just want to knock myself out and get through tonight.  I know I would have hated myself and even been more ticked off if I had broken down and bought a pack but in reality that is the only thing on my mind right now.  I can't get the urge to smoke out of my head which is why I am here looking for some support, any support.   HELP!!!!

  • cmharris59
    cmharris59 Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2009

    Jancie,

    I can understand your frustration. I had a cig at 2:30am and then one at 9 pm. Today was supposed to be cold turkey day. I am so frustrated.

  • cmharris59
    cmharris59 Member Posts: 111
    edited November 2009

    I know that all of you have been on this thread for a while. I tried the Chantix last month and it didn't do me any good. I still have 3-1/2 days worth left and a scrip refill. I am thinking of trying it again. I also have some Xanax to take the edge off. I have to stop for a t least a month so that I can have my DIEP without complications.  I keep telling myself that it is only for a month. Then, if I really really want to keep smoking then I can start back up then.  I have been smoking for 35 years and actually have to say that I still enjoy it. I have never been a heavy smoker. In fact, most people that I know would call me a bored smoker. I only smoke when I am bored out of my mind. Unfortunately, since I have become disabled from the chemo, my habit has increased. I have been smoking about 1/3 - 1/2 pack a day. 

    I have to get through a few days until I get home to my parents for Thanksgiving. I never smoke when I visit them.  By then, hopefully, I will have managed the urge well enough to get through the next few weeks for my surgery. Part of the issue, is that I am going to be in the hospital over Christmas and New Year's.  I have been fighting with my insurance and disability for months. Now I am afraid that I will be facing bankruptcy. I feel like I have given up every vice except smoking. Who wants to live like that?

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 403
    edited November 2009

    CMharris - the chantix doesn't work unless I also take valium or lorazepam here and there to take that edge off.  It does help get rid of most of the physical cravings but I still have major mental cravings because I do enjoy smoking and like you have smoked for 35 years but have always been what I call a light smoker - 1/2 pack a day at the most.  When I am stressed that was the first thing I would go to in order to take the edge off and it always worked, it relaxed me.  I have yet to find another way to get relaxed other than taking prescription drugs now.  Here it is 12:30 pm and I can't sleep because I am still upset about earlier today.  I can't fall asleep because I can't get my mind to relax - it is spinning a hundred miles an hour right now.

    Don't beat yourself up for having 2 smokes today - that is a quite an accomplishment!!!  Anything less than 5 smokes a day is doing great in my book as far as I am concerned!!

    Sometimes I get to the point like you "so I smoke, if that is the worse thing about me - then geez....what is YOUR problem?"  I could be an alcoholic, drug addict, prostitute, having affairs on my hubby, etc. but like you that is really my only vice and nobody is perfect no matter what they think!

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 403
    edited November 2009

    What really got me going today was my stepson and how he takes me for granted.  Here he has the nerve to complain to my hubby about smoking yet I have never smoked in my house or near him at any time since he came to live with us in 2002.  He has the nerve to complain to my husband about my smoking yet his own mother is on crack, cocaine, pot and a major alcholic which is why we ended up with custody yet she can do NO WRONG and yet....every step I make, every word out of my mouth is constantly being judged by him.  I am sick of it!  I took 2 hours out of my day to go to the dentist and get his braces put on yet not a single thank you.  We had to put down a deposit of $750, his mother is by court order to pay 50% of this cost and we won't see a single dime yet she is perfect in his eyes.  The total bill is going to be $1700 and even though he knows his mother will never pay us a dime, she is his MOM when she actually is nothing but an egg donor - she has never been a MOM to him - she is his birth mother, his biological mother, she gave birth and then has done nothing for him ever since but hurt him emotionally, has made a ton of false promises, buys him toys, ipods, etc. - only the fun stuff, nothing in the way of basic necessities such as eye glasses, taking him to the doctor, to the dentist, clothes, school supplies, school elective fees, school registration fees, absolutely nothing.  She will only buy him what I call gifts so that he will love her.

    Yes, I am having a very bad day and I am very angry at the world right now.  On top of that my horse trainer is not available this week so I don't get that stress relief.

  • flfish
    flfish Member Posts: 309
    edited November 2009

    Wow Jancie.  Your stepson is bugging your husband about your smoking at your own home?!?!?!?!  That takes a lot of nerve.  When he has his own home, then he can make the rules!  Keep on track, you can do it!

    Bad week for me.  My daughter is not coming home for Thanksgiving because she has to work.  My washing machine broke (which wouldn't be so bad but my dishwasher broke 2 weeks ago, and we still haven't replaced that yet).  My insurance company has decided that they are NOT going to cover my BSGI test, so I have that bill on top of everything else.  When it rains it pours.  I know, it is all small stuff, but sometimes it piles up and gets so frustrating!  So, try to put on a "happy" face (a fappy) and go on.  I smoked a lot yesterday, I know it is because of the stress.  So, today, cutting back to 5-6 again.  Maybe I need some of that Valium y'all talk about!

    Good luck Janet!!!!  this time it will stick!!

  • kk69Z
    kk69Z Member Posts: 38
    edited November 2009

    Jancie: You did good by not buying that pack. That shows you that YOU really do want to quit and that you are stronger then those nasty, stinky, money wasting cigarettes. Stay strong. It will get easier. Just think how long you have been a "non-smoker". You don't want to have to start over.

  • Janzin
    Janzin Member Posts: 491
    edited November 2009
    HI Ladies, going on day 2, last time it was a real bugger for me. Sooooo tired. Deep breathes!!!

    Jancie, I was the bratty kid once, and once you grow up you will see the good and bad in your parents. Maybe some counseling would help, it helped me maybe not right away but down the road. Awesome to stay strong during any emotional time, gives you more strength for the next hurdle, hang in there. I keep telling myself I am 1 hour closer to freedom and having MORE money lol.

    Mimi, awesome news on the chemo!!!! 2 days is awesome, I never made it past that in the last year. I feel better this time around. I smoke more around stress too and the last year has been STRESSFUL. What are your next steps in BC?

    CM, welcome! Yup, I am one on the oldies who still trying. The whole insurance things really gets me angry! I have lost the my home as I took the money saved to pay off medical bills. I have Chantix and patches left. I realize that for me, the mental is way stronger than the physical. Let me know if you want them. Good luck to you.

    FIfish, sorry to hear that! Small stuff can be big stuff. Valium is good and so is Ativan. Thanks for the support, this has got to stick as I don't know if I can try again. Id I don't make it then I will probably leave this thread. Your time is coming Fifish, I believe it takes a while to process BC even when you are past the surgeries. Will post some funny pics for all of you, hope that cheers you up.

    Happy Monday ladies, going shopping for TD.

    Hugs,
    Janet

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 403
    edited November 2009

    Janzin  - you are not allowed to leave this thread.  You have been our cheerleader from day one.  I look to you for support and encouragement because you are always there for me!  I can't do this without you!

    I always found that the worst days for me were from day 6 to day 9 - then it got better.  That is where I am right now.  I am trying to stay busy but I am so fatigued.  I slept from 9 pm to 11:30 am this morning and I could easily go back to sleep again!  I don't want to take some ritalin because it may give me the urge to smoke.

    Mimi - hang in there - you can do this!

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 851
    edited November 2009

    Hey everyone!  Well today was a bad day for me and I broke and smoked 3 today!  I have been totally stressed out!!!! Some of the bills have started coming in and even though I have 2 insurances it seems that I am still going to be left owing quite a bit of money to the wonderful doctors, pathologists, labs and hospital that did all my tests and surgery, biopsy, etc.  Don't get me wrong everything was in my network and they have paid pretty good, but not as well as I had hoped.  So, I will be paying out the a** for some time to come.  Then we have the new year coming and it will all start again.  It's a crying shame that we have to go broke trying to stay alive (so to speak).  

    As for as the next step for me in my fight against BC, I go see the RAD oncologist on Dec. 2 and he will set me up for my treatments.  I'm not sure how many that will be yet, the Med onc said probably somewhere between 30-35 txts.  Don't even get me started on that, I'm totally ticked off that I have to be tattooed (dots or no dots) to get treatment!!!  Then I go back to see the Med onc on Feb. 23rd 2010 and he will start me on one of the wonderful AI inhibitors like Femara or Arimidex, etc. and of course I will take that for 5 yrs.  So, that is the plan for now.  

    Any of you ladies that have been through RADS how did you do with it?  Was it a big pain in the butt?  Did your breast swell, shrink, get hard, get burned, etc?  I am just wondering what to expect.  Right now I am just pretty angry at this whole darn disease and what it is doing to my life!  It really sucks and I want my life back!!!!

    Renee

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 403
    edited November 2009

    Renee - you are under so much stress right now. Maybe you should set your quit date for after you finish treatment?  I quit for those 17 days when I was undergoing chemo and that probably was the worse time to try to quit due to the stress, etc.

    As far as rads, I had 25 whole breast radiation rad treatments and then 5 booster treatments where they just hit where the tumor used to be.  I am what you consider very fair skinned and yes....I got red as a lobster but I did not blister or peel at all.  I was amazed at how well my skin healed up.  I bought some 100% aloe vera gel from a health store and only used that twice a day.  Right after I got rads and then at night.  Done't buy the aloe gel that you get from Target, Walmart, or regular grocery stores because they have drying agents (chemicals) in them and that will defeat the purpose.  

    Rads weren't that bad at all - I just went through extreme fatigue - I believe so more than usual.  I was sleeping 12-14 hours a day after just 5 days of treatment.  I had no energy to do anything.  Grocery shopping would put me in bed for 4 hours.

    Somehow I made it through another day - one that was extremely mentally rough on me - not cravings but other mental stress going on in my life.  I don't even have the energy to explain it.

  • flfish
    flfish Member Posts: 309
    edited November 2009

    Jancie, great job on making through another day.  One day at a time.

    Mimi, welcome to the world of insurance!  Ugh, I have been fighting with them for over a year.  You know, you do it all right, you carry insurance (in your case TWO) so when you get sick, you don't have to worry right?  WRONG!  The hardest part for me was explaining to my daughter that I had to cut back on helping with her schooling because my medical bill had drained our accounts.  Believe me, you will get support here on that as we have all been through it.  As for the rads, that is another story.  I had 33 treatments.  I agree that the fatigue is the worst part.  I was taking 2 naps a day and going to sleep at 8:00 at night.  I give so much credit to the people who work while going through that.  The tattoos are not a big deal, just small blue dots, and they are put where they don't show.  I was pissed about that too, but now I look at them as my "badge of courage" that I wear every day! :-)  My dh claims that he LOVES my new tats.....heehee...I did burn.  Use the ointment at least twice a day.  Buy a lot of cotton sports bras, or don't wear one so you don't irritate it.  My worst burn was under my arm where they took out the nodes.  On a good note, now, after a year, my breast that was radiated is a little "harder" which makes it a little perkier.  Like I had a slight breast lift.....now if my other one matched that would be great, but looking at me naked from my left side, I look like a 30 year old!!  BAHAHAHAHAHA.  Best of luck to you.  Get that monkey off your back with the ciggs.  You can do this!

    Much love,

    Ellie

  • flfish
    flfish Member Posts: 309
    edited November 2009

    On another note, I would like to take the time to thank all my dear friends on this post during this Thanksgiving week.  You have listened to me cry, laugh and bitch and have always been true friends and for that I am grateful.  I was feeling sorry for myself earlier this week, but even then, I realized that I come here for support.  As a spiritual person, I always look for the good in bad things that happen and I am confident that my wonderful God brought me to you people during the lowest time in my life.  HE always provides.  So, for y'all, I am thankful.  Have a safe holiday weekend!

    Love to all, old and new!

    Ellie

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 851
    edited November 2009

    Thanks a million and one Ellie and Janice!  I think I'm going to post pone my quit date for now until I get out from under some of this stress.  It's just so hard dealing with everything and then the holidays on top of all of it.  I also appreciate all the great information about RADS.

    And as Ellie said... In the few weeks that I have been on this board I feel like I have made some wonderful new friends.  Ya'll have been the backbone of my support system, giving me extra strength and wisdom.  I too feel like God brought me to all of you at one of the lowest points in my life and for that I will forever be thankful!! 

    Have a Happy and Safe Thanksgiving Ladies!

    Renee

  • MsMarilyn
    MsMarilyn Member Posts: 27
    edited November 2009

    WOW!  I'm so glad that I found this trend on here.  I've been a smoker for over 22 yrs now and I have to admit that this is the hardest thing I've had to deal with yet.  I was also smoking when the doctor called and told me that I had cancer.  I've used my cigarettes as my crutch, reward and de-stressing tool for so long that just the thought of giving them up makes me want to lite one up.

    My family doesn't seem to understand that just because I have cancer doesn't make it any easier to quit smoking.  I have cut back, but when they see me smoking I get the "look" and even some comments from time to time.

    But as I told them... an addiction is an addiction period.  It's no different than them giving up their morning coffee, ice tea or anything else they HAVE TO HAVE. 

    Sorry to vent like that but again it's so good to see that I'm not alone in this struggle!

    Happy Thanksgiving Ladies!

    Marilyn

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 851
    edited November 2009

    Welcome to the board Marilyn.  I promise you that you are not alone in your struggle to give up the nicotine habit.  There are many of us on here that have quit, are trying to quit or have quit and restarted and are trying or will retry again at a later date.  This is the right place with the right group of ladies that will listen, offer advice when asked for, and give support and become a friend.  They truly are a great group!! I am blessed for having found them.  They have been my sounding board for the last week or so. 

    Good Luck with giving up the habit and always know that you are never alone in your struggle.

    Happy Thanksgiving!

    Renee

  • o2bhealthy
    o2bhealthy Member Posts: 1,089
    edited November 2009

    Welome Marilyn!

    Mimi - ugh hospital bills...I kept my Explanation of Benefits from my Insurance carrier and matched it up to the invoice from the dr/hospital/etc... before paying just to make sure I was not over paying and still I over paid and had to fight for refunds. Its frustrating because it can take months to get final bills.  

    HAVE A VERY BLESSED THANKSGIVING TO ALL!!!

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 851
    edited November 2009

    Hi all!  I hope everyone had a great time with family and friends.  I know I had a wonderful day!! I totally ate to much and I am quite miserable but happy :) ! It was just the best day ever and I feel so blessed to have wonderful friends, a great family and awesome board friends to lend an ear and help with supporting me through such a pivotal time in my life. 

    Hugs and Blessings

    Renee

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 403
    edited November 2009

    Where is that "stomping the foot" smiley?  I broke down yesterday.  Yes, on my 6th day of no smokes, I broke down and had 2 of them.

    I went through a very emotional thing yesterday, I was distraught, crying for hours, etc.  I just couldn't help myself.  I prayed and prayed and prayed and it didn't work.  I have had one today and that is it.

    I told my hubby that I was going to crawl into bed for the next four days.  That is how depressed I am right now.  I only got out of bed for a minute to come on here because my hubby is not home.  He is not the cause of this stress - just wanted to clarify that because if anything my hubby as been my rock through all of this even though he hates the fact that I am a smoker and yes....I still consider myself a smoker even though I quit for 6 days.

  • flfish
    flfish Member Posts: 309
    edited November 2009

    Jancie, please don't get depressed.  "Get back on that horse" and try again.  You did great and I am sure your body was already feeling better not having nicotine for 6 days.  I am sorry yesterday was so painful.  The holidays are tough.  I was worried about a crying spell because my daughter could not get home, but I made it through ok thanks to a great hubby and neighbors. 

    Today is a new day girl, you go for it!!

    Ellie

  • mimi1964
    mimi1964 Member Posts: 851
    edited November 2009

    Janice I'm sorry that you're having a bad day.  You have it in you to do this.  You have been through the worst part and that is having the will to get started.  I totally understand the depressing days though.  I have been having some of those lately.  My moods just swing at random, I am so not use to feeling that way.  I have never in my life been one to have mood swings.  But now in a matter of a day I can go from happy to sad to mad at the world!  I have not been behaving like myself.  I hope things get better for you, but please don't crawl into bed and cover your head up.  Depression will grab you and draw you into it's grips, don't let it have you!! Remember we are here for you! :=)

    Hug and Prayers

    Renee

  • jancie
    jancie Member Posts: 403
    edited November 2009

    thanks so much for the encouragement everyone - it is so appreciated.  I am still holed up in my bedroom but only to "make a point" that needs to be driven home.  It is working Laughing  I have 2 more days locking myself up in the bedroom and then I will free myself again. 

    Ok, I will try to make this short and sweet so that ya'll know what is going on.  Some will agree with me, others won't and so be it, I can't control it.  I am a custodial stepmother.  I have raised a boy sine he was 7 years old - he is now 14.  His biological mother has threatened him with punishment if he called me mom or ever got to the point where he loved me.  She used to give him gifts if he spoke negatively about me.  She can't do this anymore because he has matured.  However, he does not consider me a mom even though I am the one raising him 24/7/365 except for 3 hours a week - he has been brainwashed that I am nothing more than my husband's wife.  He called me mom for 4 years and then stopped when he was 11.  I have never adjusted to this and it has cut me to the core since I am the one doing EVERYTHING for this boy.  The mother lost custody as she was a crack whore (I can't find a political way of saying this).  This mother can do more damage in 2 -3 hours of visitation than most people could do in 6 months.  It is truly pathetic.

    I finally had to face the fact that (1), this boy that I am raising will never consider me as a mom and (2) he will never love me.

    I am not trying to take the place of his mother, she will always be a biological mother but just because she gave birth and breast fed does not qualify her as a Mom as far as I am concerned.  In fact she has screamed those exact words at two judges in two different states - they were taken away from her twice.  yes, the lunatic "I gave birth, I breast fed them" - ok fine....but what about the next 18 years when you are supposed to raise them?  Do you get  yourself hooked on crack, spend most of your time with a drug cartel member and ship your kids off to their grandmothers for days at a time?  That is what she did and when we found out we fought for over a year to get custody.

    So there it is.......maybe I am being too sensitive but this boy needs to learn that he has really cut me to the core on this and it hurts.  Whether or not things improve, I don't know but at least after 4 years of keeping this bottled up inside of me I let him know how I felt.

  • Janzin
    Janzin Member Posts: 491
    edited November 2009
    Hi Ladies, I am sad to say I did not make it. Maybe the timing is not right even though I really want to quit. But I am putting that on the back burner for now so I will not be posting as much, but I will drop by to give some support from time to time. I will still build that website for us and still work all of that. I can't be a moderator since I am still smoking, I hope one day to go from BCBF to BCBK (breast cancer butt fondlers to breast cancer butt kickers) I hope that by hanging around here in there I will find my way. I do know that you really need to want it to quit and you really want to be a nonsmoker to stay quit. I think I will feel better once I have a solid foundation under my feet again, something I lost during the divorce. So my fears are getting in the way. Amazing all the things you can smoke over.

    Mimi, you are going through such a hard time so I would count all the one you did not smoke. BC sucks! It seems that it effects everything from your health, your bills and your emotional well being.You are one of the brave warriors out there trying to quit when times have been tough. When you think about it, you can see your inner strength just be trying to fit in one more unpleasant thing in your life. I think all you gals trying to quit are awesome and amazing!!! Tough Chickies! Our group is awesome because here we are trying to do something that is really hard and trying to deal with BC too. I think it brings out our compassion for our fellow sisters! Thanks for joinning this group, you rock!

    Jancie, thanks for your support, it makes me really sad not to be a big part of this thread. Before I have intention of quitting soon but I guess I don't have enough strength in me at this time to deal with it all. I hope that will change. But I will definitely stop by and see how you all are doing. This thread and this group of special women have save my life in so many ways!!! I know how it feels to break down and smoke. But don't beat your self up too much, rather focus that energy into I can do it. You are really close. I remember in NA, we would talk about the things that makes us want to smoke, and it's good to share that. Because those things can make you start back up again. Part of quit smoking is also a part of addressing things that get in the way of our smober life. I feel really bad about what you are going through with the boy and his self centered wacked out mom. It took me a while to accept my parents who really raised me but I had to go through a process of seeing my real parents for what they really are instead of this make believe world I lived in. I think that boy will one day realize your love and he will love you too. You can only brain wash for so long till they get old enough to start
    making up their own minds and seeing the reality of things. Keep loving him, he will come around.

    MsMarilyn, welcome to this awesome group. People may not understand what you are going through but we do. It drives me nuts to see people look and judge me for smoking with cancer. I tell people that if you haven't walk the walk, then shut the F-ck up. Just kidding, lol. I tell them that they can't talk the talk if they haven't walk the walk. This is the perfect place to vent, get it out as those things may encourage to smoke more.

    Fifish, I had no idea you were feeling bad, sorry that I wasn't there. Been really busy and I am way behind again. You can call me anytime, we could get drunk tougher on the phone, that would be a hoot. I have a phone that does a 3 way call, more the merrier. BCBF gals going mad. I will be adding a chat to the bc quit smoking website. I am hoping we could get a once a week rant and rave chat. I believe the same thing as you, you are all here in my life at a time where I was lost and alone. I am so thankful for that. Love my sisters!

    O2Bhealthy, I am going through crap with my insurances too, will tackle them before the new year starts. Nancy just told me that she did not know that the insurance companies are by law suppose to pay for the total reconstruction and match both breast, that means also pay to make the cancer free boob match the new cancer implant. So we may research that for her as an option. We should have an insurance blog!!!!!

    Sorry this is a long one again, I may not be posting much since I am not actively trying to quit soon, have no future dates in line yet. But haven't given up and will support all of you through your ups and downs, the things that we smoke over. Will miss you all!! Nancy, Nadine, Nobleanna, Denise, Mallem, ReKoz, Candie, Sue, I am sure there are more but can't remember who haven't posted in while. Newbies, keep this thread alive!!!

    Hugs, kisses and much love!
    Janet

  • cleomoon
    cleomoon Member Posts: 152
    edited November 2009

    Yet another big reason to stop smoking.

    www.lifeclinic.com/fullpage.aspx?prid=620335&type=1