Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?

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  • carolehalston
    carolehalston Member Posts: 8,196
    edited June 2021

    We are headed to Illinois tomorrow. DH's sister's memorial service is on Saturday in Decatur. Her dh, our BIL, has waited a whole year to have this service. What a shame if the weather is rainy.

    We usually mow on Thursday so we'll get that done today, a day early.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,653
    edited June 2021

    Your worth is not measured by what you do. Nor can you calculate the degree of your worthiness by what you possess. Your worth is a function of your being. Your being is colorless, genderless, and believe it or not, ageless. Your being is worthy of honor, admiration, and respect. It is a vessel of love and light. It is a beacon of inspiration. -Iyanla Vanzant

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,653
    edited June 2021

    Also wishing you a wonderful 50th. Sandy. Hope you end up with fantastic memories. I'm so glad that covid is pretty much out of your way for the most part so this could happen.

    Carole, that is sort of a long drive but supporting family is so worthy. I so hope as well that the weather might cooperate for your sil having to wait such a long time to honor her husband and your bil. She ( your sil ) has I know lots of company in similar circumstances having had to wait to honor and remember loved ones, but I feel for any having to do so in negative circumstances at this late date. Here's hoping that some decent weather can prevail for her service.

    We are a bit warmer today, but with the way way lowered humidity, it is hard to tell it. It sounds like we could go back into some of the harsher ( hot and humid ) weather but with the iffiness of the last few yrs. I sort of wait and see now. Sure would love to have a few more days like the last couple.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,207
    edited June 2021

    Carole: Sorry that the memorial service for your SIL had to be delayed for so long. Hope the service brings your BIL solace.

    Sandy: Congratulations on making 50 years of blissful marriage. Hope the weather cooperates so you have a beautiful 'do and your sister and niece can make it. There are rainproof hairsprays and I always kept a can on hand for emergencies like this.

    I was changing the bird cage today and removed the tray to wash and reline. Came back to discover one of the babies poking its head out the opening (small enought for them but not the adults). Did a quick count and found I only had 4 birds and one of the "juvies" had escaped. I was panic stricken that the 2 cats who were in the family room would find it before I did. I looked low but then decided to look high and it was on the curtain rod in the eat-in area of the kitchen which is on the other side ot the room from the cage and 7 feet off the floor. So it flew up there, was not cooperative about being captured and did a tour of the kitchen landing on the light over the island, a wall decoration and finally landing in the bay window where after 3 attempts, I managed to corner it. So yes, they can fly now that their wings are bigger but crash land still. Sort of reminded me of a ball in a pinball machine the way it careened around the room. So now I will need to stuff this opening when I remove the tray. Time for a new cage for the "juvies" since they are driving the parents crazy with their shenanigans and oddball in cage flight patterns. Love watching them since they are so comical but their energy level is like that of a toddler, exhausting.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,653
    edited June 2021

    Betrayal,

    Oh what a story. Sure glad you found the little escapee in time. Also glad you discovered the one who was going to possibly make a run for it too. I imagine the little escapee was delighted about being able to "zoom" around and likely will definitely look for more chances now that it knows it has an ability to soar. Their wings can be clipped, but of course, after a while they grow back. I likely wouldn't bother unless the flamboyant one might need a lot more taming down. All depends on how often you might want to treat them to excursions outside of their cage.

    Hope you are able to re-settle them to another cage soon. Then again, leaving them around for awhile may cool the jets of momma bird wanting to set on eggs and hatch them. w ho knows -- that may not be something she can actually choose al that well. We had two birds at one time but both were males so never had to encounter blessed births as you have.

    Never a dull moment, huh !!!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,653
    edited June 2021

    Hope this link works: https://fb.watch/6jxTXLHglX/

    It's phenomenal.


  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,408
    edited June 2021

    Carole, hope storms don't interfere with the memorial service for your SIL. At least indoor worship is once again permitted in IL. Tomorrow & Fri., we are in the "Marginal risk" area for severe weather. Waves of storms, in fact. It will continue to rain heavily all through the weekend, and there will be rain every single day until next Fri., 7/2 (the day my AC is supposed to be delivered and my HK leaves for her family vacay in AL). I'm not confident anything will be taking off from or landing at either airport this weekend. Yeesh--first the pandemic shutdown robs me of a 70th birthday party, and now the weather will wreck our golden anniversary. I've been cussing out the weather reporters since winter--first Snowmageddon, then fears of burst pipes from subzero temps, and now this. But there is nowhere in America that is safe from the ravages of nature--be they hurricanes, tornadoes, floods, deep freezes, blizzards, wildfires or earthquakes. (Not gonna say why this is happening, lest I incur the Wrath of Mods).

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,207
    edited June 2021

    That artwork was phenomenal. You see a lot of sidewalk artwork in Europe and some of it is like this or sometimes the Old Masters. Great creativituy and talent.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,653
    edited June 2021

    Our rushing and our busyness create a fog layer that

    encloses us, surrounding us with thicker and thicker

    layers externally and building denser and denser fog

    layers within. Pretty soon, we have lost touch with

    that which guides our lives. We need contact with

    our spirituality to be the people we would like to be.

    Anne Wilson Schaef
  • mcbaker
    mcbaker Member Posts: 1,833
    edited June 2021

    Yesterday I met with my cousin from Alaska. We have not been able to get together for two years. His wife, coincidentally, was raised in this town. This time he brought her along. We had lunch and great conversation, as usual.

    I made some changes to the cover to my sofa cushion, as well as putting some fresh quilt batting on it. I am expecting a package tomorrow, so back to work I go. I got two pills for Tippy from the vet today. One if he seems panicky on the evening of the third, and the other for my next grooming session with him (no, I will not give it to myself).

    My shoulder and left arm have not been hurting much, although I have not been very physically active today. I have put up six quarts of dehydrated mint for tea in the past week. I am beginning to see some progress in the later crops, now that strawberry season is ending. Eggplants are blooming, and I see some young tomatoes in the plant in a pot up by the house. I am eating a bowlful of lettuce fresh from the garden, with no lower teeth.

    Doctor complimented me on my weight loss, so looks like I will be going back to the gym. I can't walk much, pretty well restricted to taking Tippy on walks with my scooter. We traveled quite a bit this morning doing errands.

    Yeah, Sandy. When caught between the wrath of the mods and the wrath of God, I guess we have to vent elsewhere. Medicating


  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 4,619
    edited June 2021

    Happy 50th anniversary Sandy - you were just a baby when you got married!!!! Hope the weather cooperates.

    I've been MIA as I was working on 2 special education cases for work since June 6th and finally today was the last meeting. I put in just over 100 hours since June 6th. Lots of comp time for next school year. This week wasn't so bad, but the previous 2 weeks were all consuming!!

    DD#1 surprised us with a visit. She arrived this morning and is her till Tuesday afternoon. We knew she was coming since Sunday. It's 20 months since we last saw each other. She left her husband at home!


  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,207
    edited June 2021

    Mary: You made me laugh when you said you would not take Tippy's pill. As a newly minted nurse, we had a young boy with burns who required daily dressing changes. They were anxiety producing for him but moreso for us since our appearance raised the anxiety level and his flailing. We even decided to let him remove his old dressings to reduce this anxiety and pain. One of the nurses' mentioned to the doctor that his meds were not working (looking for a change in meds) and he told her that "he's on the maximum dose and I can't give him more". She then told the physician she wanted the drug dose for herself, at a dose appropriate for her since it was obviously not working for him but just might for her. I am not making light of his plight because it was traumatic but more psychological at this stage than physiological. Meanwhile that physician sure as hell made sure he was never around when we had to change those dressings and would later chide us that "he wanted to look at the burns". This was far from the truth since he never responded to our pages when we had the dressings off. He did heal well and thanks to our dutiful care we were able to minimize his scarring so he would not require any further surgery for adhesions and he had full range of motion in his arms. He was a brave soul.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,653
    edited June 2021

    Betrayal, your Dr. needed a few burns of his 'own' maybe to help him empathize with his patient a bit. Also guess he wasn't anywhere near up for vocal outpourings of distress for burns. Interesting reactions.


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,653
    edited June 2021

    Thought a couple of you might like this:


    May be an image of dog and text that says 'AS I LAY ME DOWN TO SLEEP, ANY MINUTE I'LL FALL DEEP MY HUMAN WENT το TAKE A PEE, NOW THE BED BELONGS το ME. AMEN.'

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,207
    edited June 2021

    Had to laugh at the above though it is now the cat who steals my spot and protests like crazy when I try to get back in. The dog used to until she got too old to leap onto the bed and settled for one of her own. Looks comfy though doesn't it?

  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,408
    edited June 2021

    BOTH my cats claim the bed as their territory whenever Bob or I get up during the night. We tried buying them car beds--and they looked at us like, "what do you expect us to do with this?"

    We finally got word that our new wood-and-leather Mission-style recliners arrived at the store. Alas, in order to get them delivered, we have to have the ratty old (20 yrs) leather sofabed removed (which La--Boy won't do), and 1-800-GOT-JUNK can't come till Monday. So my sister & niece won't get to see the spiffy new chairs--and instead will see the contraption we rigged up with a lift-assist frame on the sofabed (with a thick layer of memory foam between the mattress & cushions) so Bob can get up from it more easily. (He sits there--more like slouches there--to watch sports & Ken Burns documentaries while Heidi walks around on his chest, purring, nuzzling, and smearing his glasses). Monday he will find out what's next for his bone-on-bone knee after the Synvisc/cortisone shots--maybe an off-loader brace--before biting the bullet and having a TKR. In the latter event, it'll take a team of wild horses to drag him to inpatient rehab (we have 8 steps up from the street to our first floor, and for the first two weeks post-op the protocol is PT twice a day). He's fully-vaccinated, so that kind of congregate-care wouldn't be as scary as it would have been a year ago. But if there were a way we could have a trainer come in twice daily (and set up the right equipment), he'd jump at the chance. They don't allow smoking there, nor alcohol until one's weaned off opioids & gabapentin. I can see him refusing the Norco, through gritted teeth. But then again, in 2015 (a few months before my bc dx) when he was recovering from a botched colonoscopy and subsequent surgery, he had to teetotal for two weeks because of the antibiotic he was on.

    The new chairs will arrive Tuesday. My HK goes on vacay a week from tomorrow--which is the day our new first-floor A/C is delivered & installed.

  • petite1
    petite1 Member Posts: 2,292
    edited June 2021

    Betrayal, I liked the nursing story. I had a similar one back when dial first came out with antibacterial liquid hand soap. The doctor wanted burn patients gently bathed with it. It was so many years ago, I don't remember much more about it.

    My hands are stiff today. It is hard to type.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,653
    edited June 2021

    We all have choices to make about the quality of our presence and how we will affect those around us. The quality of our presence is dependent not on what we can or cannot "do" but on the essence of who we are and how we relate to others.Becoming the presence we would like to be is an intentional work. It grows while we make peace with ourselves and with life. -Sallirae Henderson

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,653
    edited June 2021

    Storms on the way today I do think. Maybe not too bad but you can already cut the humidity with a knife I think. Didn't stay that long outside to find out. No matter what -- with the humidness it will require as little time outdoors as possible. Well, I will work at the farm, and make a side trip later to the bank and to pay a bill -- then back inside. I have supper figured out so no need to go to the store for anything.

    Glad your chairs are here Sandy, but sounds like old courtesies ( old replaced furnishings ) are out the window. Like a lot of people, by the time I'm through with something, even Goodwill may be looking askance. Guess the important part is that you will have the new chairs and can relax afterwards. Just me, but I'd be getting that knee fixed once and for all. Having had a career taking care of others though likely does make you leery. Guess I'm use to the Doc I use to work for. I still visit -- but he is up pretty much for any procedure that helps him accomplish life on the highest plane there is for him. He is in his mid 80's and has had diabetes most of his life so sometimes surgical fixes are not always the answer, but he does full investigations before figuring out what to do. Hope what is chosen works okay.

    Hope you all have a good day. ((((petite)))).

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,207
    edited June 2021

    I can identify with Bob's bum knee since my torn posterior meniscus in August 2020. At that time I was told my left knee was very arthritic (on MRI) and I would need a replacement at some point in time. I have been ekeing it out by getting Orthovisc injections (no cortisone; only lidocaine) every 6 months and just finished the second round. Denial is a powerful coping mechanism but its not alleviating the pain I have, so I will be exploring what the surgery will entail. One problem is I am allergic to cobalt and it is in some of the knee replacement hardware. I would also like have the muscle sparing surgery and am not sure if that is an option. So I can sympathize with Bob. I do think PT can be provided at home but not sure of availability in all areas. I would be able to drive there but even now getting in and out of the car can be a challenge with those lateral moves. Getting old is not fun.

  • mcbaker
    mcbaker Member Posts: 1,833
    edited June 2021

    Karen, I understand completely. School psychologists' contracts should run ~mid September to ~mid-June. It happens every year. Parental denial is tough to work through, even when they are invited to attend problem-solving conferences. Somehow administration never acknowledged the nature of the job when and where I worked.

    There is a mattress, a cabinet, and a sofa out on the curb, left there by a family who cleaned out an apartment. They have been there for about three weeks. I guess everyone is passing the buck on that.

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 4,619
    edited June 2021

    Mary - I'm on the same calendar and pay schedule as teachers. These were extra cases that I was asked to help with - so no issues with the comp time. My supervisor is amazing. We've worked together at first as team mates, then other capacities before she became my supervisor/manager of the SW/SP team. We generally start school (kids) mid-August and finish the end of May. 2021-22 school year we are starting a week later so we go the week after Memorial Day. I don't want a longer calendar - 187 days is more than plenty!!! Well, one of the cases is continuing - after the last meeting, I told the sped teacher I'm working with that I was waiting for the other shoe to drop!! And it did.

    It's been raining for about 1 1/2 hours and doesn't seem to be letting up anytime soon. Glad I grilled the chicken thighs this morning. Most of my shabbat dinner is cooked - just need to heat everything up.

    Cool (70s) and rain this week-end. I'm. not complaining. We need the moisture and the cooler temps are welcome - we were 97 the beginning of the week.

    Have a good week-end. Sandy enjoy your anniversary party.

    Karen

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,653
    edited June 2021

    Got our storms. I imagine there will be more later. Anyway I was out at the farm when they finally came. What an experience. My friend ( her husband passed away about three yrs. ago ) gets very nervous when too much goes wrong -- or things for which she does not have a lot of confidence about. So, I'm running the vacuum and stopped briefly and started a sm. conversation with my friend. The smoke alarm came on. Oops !!! After a few seconds it went back off and she said it was an anomaly that sometimes happened when she used the tv in the living room. So, went to get the machine un-plugged and darn if the alarm didn't go off again. As I was in the sm. hall, I looked at the cat room and saw water ( rain ) dropping through the smoke alarm in that room. It likely shorted out and turned all the alarms on. Yikes -- the sound was horrendous. We took the batteries out of the alarms ( 4 ) and tried the re-set -- nothing but sound still. I offered some suggestions ( call electric company or fire dept. ) but she didn't want to do that. Finally a neighbor came over to help us trace everything in the breaker box. Someone had marked everything wrong. We finally got it stopped, but she had to call a electrician. Hopefully, he came. I hope he will cap the one that got wet and then put the batteries back in the other alarms -- then when all the storms ( all week-end ) are done she can call someone to look at the roof ( the house is only 3 yrs. old ) and the electrician can likely re-wire the capped off alarm.

    So, she had a baby kitten who would not stay out of the road in front of her house and guess who came home with me. She says when it is a bit bigger I could bring it back but I think we both know once it is under my roof it is going to be mine. She said she intended to get it "fixed" and get the baby shots etc. I will let her. I stopped at the vets ( I go past his ofc. on my way home ) and found out it is a little girl. She has some lt. grey hair and some a bit darker with whorls on each side. She is a rather attractive little kitten. If anyone has any name suggestions I would welcome hearing them. I briefly just thought I'd called her Blondie or something -- but she is I think too cute to do that to. Was thinking of Pixie but we will see.

    For now Bill -- my 70 lb. Black Lab is laying with her on his bed and barking at anyone who ( the other cats ) comes near. He seems to want to 'care' for the baby. Ah, what next.

  • mcbaker
    mcbaker Member Posts: 1,833
    edited June 2021

    Comp time is a real issue. Parents may soften up by the end of the school year, but no more consents allowed after- say- first of May, so a golden moment is lost. My work-related dreams last night were actually somewhat funny. Pleasant change.

    I had a rough time with getting a prescription filled today. We finally arrived at a compromise. The pills are huge, but I can do this for a week.

    The neighbor who died was having physical therapy at home for a while.

    I see another piece of furniture out on the curb, She had a box from Lazy Boy in front of her apartment this morning. But this place is beginning to look trashy. Five units empty out of a total of 16. They ought to be doing something about it.

  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,928
    edited June 2021

    One of the shelter foster parents has a large black and white dog. He always takes over the kittens and has raised numerous litters over the years. Huge gentle giant.

  • mcbaker
    mcbaker Member Posts: 1,833
    edited June 2021

    My brother sent me this today:

    Open Photo

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,207
    edited June 2021

    I love gray cats and have a male who has two tiny splashes of white: one on his belly and one on a hind leg. The other two are multicolored: one is black, white and orange and the other is tawny shades of brown with some black accents, thus her name, Tawny. Other than one orange creamsicle colored one in the past, all others have been gray. Tawny was supposed to just board here until DD found her a home and you guessed, right, she moved from being confined in the powder room to roaming the house.

  • 1946taco
    1946taco Member Posts: 300
    edited June 2021

    My daughter has fostered kittens for a local shelter for several years. Her own cats do a good job of socializing once she gives the kittens the run of the house. I don't think they mother enough to let them sleep near them though.

    Hope the weather is kind to you tomorrow, Sandy but if not, still cherish the memories.

  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,928
    edited June 2021

    I have decided that gray cats live extra long lives. Mine lived to be 19 and my foster hospice cat was with us for 2 years before he died at 18. I love black and orange cats. We've had 3 black, 1 orange tabby, 1 gray, and a couple of calicos.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,653
    edited June 2021

    Integrity requires that I discern what is integral to my selfhood, what fits and what does not--and that I choose life-giving ways of relating to the forces that converge within me: Do I welcome them or fear them, embrace them or reject them, move with them or against them? By choosing integrity, I become more whole, but wholeness does not mean perfection. It means becoming more real by acknowledging the whole of who I am. -Parker J. Palmer,