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Terri, I asked my holistic dr what an overdose level would be of omega 3 and he said 9000mg and not that it would be an od but it would deter the effects of any other essential oils. If you want to have a phone consult with him I can give you his name and number.
..also, he believes in the iscador and he said that 'if he had cancer, he would take it' a conventional md for 25 years and has been holistic since 2000. Also, regarding the iscador, he told me to look into Raph Moss - a phd who worked at Sloan for years but is now solo and an advocate on alternative therapies. ..i think there was some scandal with him blowing the whistle on a few sloan colleagues and getting fired - not quite sure of the story though and I may be mixing him up with someone else.
ralph moss: http://www.cancerdecisions.com has some interesting and thought provoking articles. I liked the one on the antioxidants and chemo.
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Hi Spring:
I take Essiac tea. I actually like it. I buy it in a liquid form and just add hot water. Renee Caisse (Essiac backwards) got the recipe from the Ojibwa Natives. Antioxidant. Again no studies to prove it's value. Make sure not to get the competitive brand Flora Essence as it contains 2 extra herbs and one is Red clover, and it's a phytoestogen.0 -
PS - Ralph Moss did work for Sloan Kettering and was involved in blowing the whistle on the cover up showing laetrile as an effective treatment against cancer. When the doctor who did the study reported his findings, Sloan tried to cover them up and insisted that laetrile is not effective (many of the board of directors at that time had strong ties to pharmaceutical companies). Ralph Moss and a few other researchers went public to say that they indeed saw the studies and saw that laetrile was effective. They were fired from Sloan as a result. If you Google it, there is plenty of info out there regarding this cover up.
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Jenny, I processed the salt until the dye was evenly distributed maybe a minuite. It is really sticky and if you were to do it by hand it would take a long while. I drizzled almond oil into the processor at the same time then the fragrance I used almond. Then mixed all of that into a large bowl of salt by hand. About 2 gallon ice cream buckets. After i layered the epsome salts (white) and the bathsalts (green) in clear jars.
Lilli, I got my sprout kit at totally tomatoes for around 20.00. It does the trick. I start a tray every two days. It has 3 trays. Mung beans sprout well in it.
I really need some inspiration or some new recipes here! I am trying to get back on my vegitarian diet that I was on before the holidays. I have had the same shake every morning for 8 months and I am not liking it any more. I have eaten the same group of veggies until I am not liking them any more.the only thing I am liking is the sprout sushi. Same dressing same toppings I dont think I can take any more HELP!! Any ideas?
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aha deni, that is the story - and YOU are the one I heard it from too
I have alzchemo I think these days!0 -
Lydia, you need to work on variety for sure. Eating the same thing all the time, even if it is greens will leave us nutrient deficient. I do eat small amounts of meat now. I just make sure it is hormone and antibiotic free. If you do not eat any meat you could be deficient in certain digestive enzymes and B12, so make sure you supplement for that.
My favorite lunch is still sliced avocado and salsa with a few greek olives. I also found this recipe for a veggie burger. I have not tried it yet, but it sounded good:
1 small onion
2 cloves garlic
2 shredded carrots
1 small yellow squash
1 small zucchini
1 1/2 cups oats
1/4 cup cheese
1 egg
1tsp soy sauce
1 1/2 cups flour
Saute onion and garlic (I would use coconut oil), add carrots, and squashes. cook 2 min. more, remove from heat and mix in oats, cheese and egg, then soy sauce. Refrigerate 1 hour.
Form into patties, dredge in flour and grill or brown in small amount of oil
I would probably add some herbs for flavor and maybe even some mushrooms since I love them.
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Vivre,
I am copying this one to try. Thanks! I am just out of ideas for variety. Any help is appreciated! My favorite salad has no appeal for me any more.
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Hi Girls....haven't posted much or in awhile. Having a tough time deciding about the drug therapy as I don't really want to start it and it has been two months since my last radiation and five months since last chemo. In Dr. Lee's book I came across a paragraph that makes me anxious about doing the progesterone cream, which I used to use about ten years ago. On page 245 the first paragraph under "When During the Month to Use Progesterone Cream" he states that in relationship to breast cancer it may be harmful to use too much cream. So that leads me to think you have to constantly check the levels and may cause too much anxiety. Two naturopaths I have seen don't really recommend it either which surprised me. Would love some feedback from anyone. BTW, here in WA a naturopath needs extensive training after a BS or BA and they are then eligible to be family practitioners for all our insurance plans .Patti
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Hello everyone
I am new to this particular board, finished radiation in Nov. 09 and was given a prescription for one of the ALs. I decided not to take it because of the SE's.
PAP, I have also been reading Dr. Lee's book. Also reading about Iodine, Vitamin D3- thyroid and hormonal balances, bone loss, nutrition for patients post cancer treatment, and am not sure where I am going and what, if anything I will be doing to avoid bc recurrence.
As there are 157 pages on this thread, it will take me some time to catch up on all the posts.
I am glad I found this thread.
dsgirl
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http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/79/topic/733550?page=3#idx_66
Lydia
You will find some more yummy things at the above thread called Vegetarian living
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Good morning Ladies,
Lydia-Thank you.
DSgirl-Welcome
It took me a while a while to read through all of the post a few months ago, but it is soooo worth it. A LOT of knowledge and Heart here. Pap-Gald to hear from you again. Wow, that is great about the Naturo Docs there.
Big hugs.
Jenny.
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dsgirl:
Welcome! I'm a newbie, too. It is overwhelming at first. There is so much experience and knowledge and I found it helpful to look for recurring themes as a starting point. I think it is important to also find a naturopath or functional medicine doctor who can support and guide you.
Good Luck!
Beth
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DSgirl-Welcome, and happy reading!
Merilee-How are you feeling?
Patti-I would not feel comfortable taking any hormone treatment, or the hormone blockers the onc's perscribe without regular hormone testing. Too much progesterone can convert to estrogen so it is important to keep everything balanced. Keep looking for a doctor who really understands hormone balance. This is definitely a route one should not travel alone. I found a former obgyn who now does hormone balance. I know she works with a group that has other branches across the US. PM me if you want to know the group name.
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vivre ~ I wasn't familiar with oil pulling, so, out of curiosity, just looked at a site that describes the technique, along with a couple of how-to videos. It looks harmless and interesting, although the claims for cures from a host of serious diseases seem a bit over the top to me. But what I'm not understanding and hope you can explain is the biology or physiology behind it. What exactly is swishing oil in your mouth doing to create change in one's body? Does it supposedly stimulate production of something??? The site I looked at didn't really explain what it does that's supposedly so beneficial: http://www.oilpulling.com/ Deanna
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LOL, Deanna, I have the same questions. But it sounded interesting and harmless so I decided to try it. What the heck? I have tried everything else to clear up my post nasal drip, which I am beginning to think may mean that I have to remove some amalgam fillings. I was hoping this would work. So far my teeth are looking whiter and feel really clean, and my tongue is looking pinker, but not much else. I will give it a couple more weeks. It is pretty yucky, so I have to do something to keep my mind off of it. It is supposed to draw out toxins through the saliva.
We shall see . . .
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ewwwwww
I could never do it because the germaphobe I am would never put fingers in my mouth, lol!!!!!!!!Patty
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vivre ~ Which oil are you using? And are you doing it 3x a day??? And, Patty, I didn't see anything about putting fingers in your mouth. Am I missing something? I thought it was pretty much swish and spit!
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Has anyone ever heard of eating according to your blood type? I think I'm A+ but not 100% sure. I'm reading a book by Dr D'Adamo called "Eating for Your Blood Type" and he writes that everything we eat should be in tune with our specific blood type. That not all vegetables, fruits, grains, etc are suitable for all blood types. It has to do with the lectins produced by certain foods. He also writes that Type A's are more prone to cancer than the other blood types B, AB and O. It's very interesting although I'm now hoping against hope that I'm not blood
type A !.Terri
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Terri ~ Eating for your Blood Type was discussed here not too long ago -- maybe last Fall? I'm also Type A, and while the vegetarian diet he recommends for us feels right to me, I could never give up some of the fruits & veggies he doesn't recommend for us. Without looking it up, I think strawberries and sweet potatoes were two of the not so good ones. I don't know if there's any benefit to his recommended way of eating, but it did help me understand why my Type O DH feels dinner isn't complete without a meat, fish or chicken protein.
I also wanted to share something I just came across on Isacador in Dr. Keith Block's book, Life Over Cancer. In a chapter entitled "Leaving No Stone Unturned," he lists Mistletoe as the type of alternative he would label reasonable and responsible for those who have active residual disease and no course of traditional tx left to them.
"Mistletoe has been used by physicians in Europe, particularly Germany, since 1920. The preparation called Iscador consists of fermented extracts of European mistletoe (Viscum album) and has been shown to have anti-cancer and anti-metastatic properties when tested on cells of lung, breast, bladdder, and several other types of cancer growing in lab dishes. In animal experiments, mistletoe compounds called lectins have been shown to kill cancer cells, stimulate anti-cancer immune defenses (especially natural killer cells), and block tumor growth. According to a 2003 review, eight controlled clinical trials have now demonstrated significant improvements in survival for cancer patients receiving mistletoe preparations. This remains a controversial conclusion, however, in part because the best-designed studies did not show any benefits in survival."
It looks like he's noted a research reference, but, unfortunately, I bought an advance copy of the book on eBay before it was up on his site, but it's missing the research addendum, as well as an index, so is a bit difficult to navigate. If anyone else has it, you might want to see if there's a research reference that would be helpful to add to the above. Deanna
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Hey Patti, miss germaphobe: The oil pulling is kind of like brushing your teeth, with no brush. You just swish it around for about 20 min. and then spit it out and rinse. Like I said, I will hold off touting it until I see if it does more for me. But I can say that it is better for teeth whitening than all those toxic bleaches and flourides.My teeth feel like I just went to the dentist to have them cleaned. Also, I found another brand new hotel that is eco friendly to hold my prevention convention so I am hoping that will help you with the ick factor. I would offer to have you stay nearby at my house, but I have to admit, the hotel is probably cleaner.LOL I think they are going to give us a good deal, so I am hoping to get it all finalized in a couple of days so everyone can make plans. I sure hope a lot of you will come. If you share the cost of the room, it will be even cheaper. The rooms are really nice, with spa tubs, great showers and robes, and big flat screens if you bring DH along.
D-I am using coconut oil. It has the least taste. I am thinking about adding some peppermint oil if I can remember to buy some.
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In the morning before breakfast on an empty stomach you take one tablespoon in the mouth but do not swallow it. Move Oil Slowly in the mouth as rinsing or swishing and Dr Karach puts it as ' sip, suck and pull through the teeth' for fifteen to twenty minutes. This process makes oil thoroughly mixed with saliva. Swishing activates the enzymes and the enzymes draw toxins out of the blood. The oil must not be swallowed, for it has become toxic. As the process continues, the oil gets thinner and white. If the oil is still yellow, it has not been pulled long enough. It is then spit from the mouth , the oral cavity must be thoroughly rinsed and mouth must be washed thoroughly. Just use normal tap water and good old fingers to clean.
That is what I read on the website Deanna posted. Again ewwwwww!!!!! I would love to stay in a brand new hotel. Call them and tell them to hold a new room (never used) just for me!!!!
Patty
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Did this yesterday and woke up this morning without the drippy nose I had yesterday. Go Figure
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Hi everyone -
Since finishing rads on the 31st of Dec (what a way to start the new year - being finished!), I've been trying to get back to life as normal. The past year seemed to change my whole identity into "cancer patient". Ugh. It's been nice shaking that off.
My loss of fitness has been the most shocking revelation as I've started feeling better and trying to get back on track. One day I realized that my abs had become so atrophied, that I could not sit up from a prone position without using my arms for support! I was shocked. So off I went into the fitness world, searching for just the right thing to get me back in shape.
I found a wonderful yoga instructor on YouTube and wanted to share her name with you all, in case you haven't heard of her - Sadie Nardini.
http://web.mac.com/sadienardini/Site/Free_Yoga.html
She has a great little rise and shine practice that you do just after you wake up, before you get out of bed. I wish I had been doing this one all along through tx! So simple, but what a nice way to start the day.
She has quite a few free practices posted for specific purposes - better sleep, fertility (Crunchy!), rebuilding your core - etc. I especially like the restorative practice - a great way to relax when those inevitable upsets come along in your day.
My latest aggravation happened when doc announced that she spotted a new nodule on my lung that we now have to "watch". Just 2 weeks after I thought I was home free..... Great.... :(OK, so I'm off to restore with Sadie....
There seems to be something that would help no matter where you are right now in your journey. I hope you find something you like!
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Thanks for the Yoga link. I'll try this. This group has been an inspiration for me in the creative fitness department. Thank you for the nudge and suggestions.
Now, runswith, honey, I don't want to sound stupid but did they give you a before rads xray and a post rads xray? So they had a baseline xray to compare?
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Morning ladies!!
I hope all is well! So, I just had my hormone tests re-done, I have an appointment with the naturopath on Monday, however she did email them over to me.
I can't believe the difference in the 2 hydroxyestrone, 16 hydroxyestrone and the 2:16 ratio. Last test showed 2 hydroxy (the good stuff) at 283 (reference range 112-656 pg/ml) new reading is 990, 16 hyroxy (the bad stuff) was at 525 (reference range 213-680) new reading 413, the last 2:16 ratio was a sad 0.54 (reference range 0.40-1.40) new reading is 2.40!!!!! YAY!! This stuff we are doing works!!!!
on another note, which is really weird, my progesterone is 0.30 (reference range 0.95-21.00), it was 0.73 at the last test!! WTF!! They actually retested that one because I think they were suprised it was so low!!
You all know I have been on the progesterone for months! ummmmmm, my appointment on Monday is scheduled for 1 1/2 hours, so any questions you guys need answers for send em' over!!
L
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Lorraine ~ YaY for the improved estrogen #s!!! And, assuming progesterone is protective vis-a-vis too much estrogen, could that extremely low reading have something to do with your excellent estrogen ratio not needing as much progesterone to balance it??? Not sure where all the progesterone from your Kokoro Creme is going, but maybe this is what happens to our progesterone reading when our estrogen is truly where it should be??? Is it somehow being used up or converted in the balancing process? D.
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D, I honestly don't know, I am really confused by that progesterone reading, I can't wait until Monday to figure it all out, I do think that I will be asking for some estrogen (estriol), my estradiol has gone from 60 (ref range 27-246) at the last reading to 32 this reading, so thats good, that the bad stuff is lower. But I know I need some estrogen as I have been having horrid hot flashes and horrors!! acne on my chin aaaaahhhh!!
I am quite thrilled by the results except for the flippin progesterone!!! I emailed the doc to see if she had any answers, too impatient to wait until Monday LOL!!
L
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Oh and I had my 4 month bloodwork for the Onc this week, all was good! another YAY!!
AND welcome to the newbies!!! So sorry for not starting off by saying that!! As you will find out I get very excited about hormone levels LOL!!
L
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This is the response from the Dr regarding my question on low progesterone.........
Well the hormones (especially the progesterone) are on a rollercoaster ride all
month, what days of the month do you take the kokoro cream? and What days of the
month did you draw your labs? Are you having periods , if so when?
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> As we approach or enter into menopause - the first hormone to decline is the
progesterone. Also the progesterone disappears when we are no longer ovulating.
If you are taking a progesterone cream then you want to take that cream for 10
days +/- just before you draw the labs so that there is plenty of cream in your
system when the labs are drawn.
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> Now sometimes too much progesterone can make acne worst so be aware of that -
obvioulsy you are not too high, but if you increase the dose with Dr. Garilli
watch for changes and then retest,
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Lorraine,
Your doctor wrote, "draw the labs."
Does this mean she is measuring blood levels of progesterone?
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