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Does anyone know the stats for node positive and no tam or als?
Patty
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Patty, have you tried using the Risk Calculators?
http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/79/topic/746211?page=1#idx_22
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Hi Julia,
What brand dim do you take? I was taking Natures Way Dim Plus but it was only 25%DIM. I have therefor changed to Source Naturals brand which is 100%DIM. I am from NZ so don't know much about these brands. Do you know if it has a good reputation? Thanks for your help because I really want to get this right!
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Carole, I did but I really can't put in what little chemo I had and get the results. I guess I'm better off just not knowing. I will just let God be my calculator!! Thanks
Patty
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Springtime, how are you? I'm so sorry to hear about those troubling S/E's you were having. Have you had any relief as of yet? I want to thank you for the supportive post regarding my Rads situation. It is almost embarrassing to post the things they have told me so it's such a comfort to have my feelings validated. I decided that I will not be meeting with them anymore since it's too late for Rads even if I wanted it and I am not taking Tamox. Big waste of my time and theirs at this point. Sending gentle cyber hugs and healing thoughts your way.
Patty you are welcome and very well said. Most things are better left in His hands.
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wow, where are the natural girls, I've never seen this thread so down low, ahaha.
I did my first iscador injection yesterday. I felt kinda queezy but that was only because I gave myself a needle. It was fine. I do it every other day now...
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Lucy ~ Wow thank you so much for that concise bit of info! This helps put my mind at ease. While I have never ever felt, in my guts, that I should ever take Tamox, my mind does sometimes cause me to fear. And while my onc calls my decision "emotional, rather than rational" I consider it more of a "knowing in my heart, that is not to be ignored". It is kind of crazy how our society trains us to ignore all of our better instincts and to trust in external manipulation. Oh my onc is so condescending....don't let me get started....lol!
Anyway, thanks to you all for being there...and thanks for all of your wonderfully generous sharing!
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Patty. I love the idea of letting God be your calculator. I really hated the way the doctors kept throwing stats at me, and plugging me in, without even knowing me. I am not a stat! My onc had a treatment plan set up for me, based on statistics, before I even met her! I was so dumb back then, not to think it through. I applaud those of you who are able to ask questions from the get go. I was in such a total fog. I think because I liked my doctors, I was just willing to go along with everything they said, until my inner voice started screaming at me. I still think the team of doctors I had were a wonderful group of caring women. However, they were so busy treating the disease, they forgot to treat the patient. I have not been back to any of them in 2 years, since my last day of rads, and I have no intention of ever seeing them again, though I would love to give them a piece of my mind.
Hang in there Suzanne, and the rest of you, trying to come to a place of peace with your decisions. As you get stronger, and restore your health, you will feel empowered, and more confident that you have followed your instincts. Remember, doctors HAVE to promote standard protocols, even if they have doubts, because they are bound to follow the rules. What we have to do, is promote the idea of reclaiming our health, not with a pill, but with an evaluation of everything in our lives.
Which brings me to my wellness weekend. I cannot tell you all how excited I am about it, and how enthusiastic the pros who are coming to present are too. Yesterday, I talked with a kindred spirit who is going to do a presentation on a dance technique called NIA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iPknX6-o2k
I decided to do this instead of Zumba because it seems to fit in perfectly with the mind, body, soul healing that this weekend is all about. Friday night is going to be about fitness. I am going to talk about my favorite exercise, rebounding, and then she is going to do some NIA dance techniques. Anyone who I have not given the info to, and wants to come, send me a pm and I will give it to you. My hope is that those of you who come, will be so invigorated by the concept, that you will be compelled to go home and have a wellness weekend in your neck of the woods. I hope that the energy from this weekend spreads and that we can encourage others to be proactive about their health, and find the balance in their lives that will keep them from having to go through all the friggin crap that we have. I hope that we will all become part of an army that charges this disease and that the whole pinkwashing awareness bs, becomes a distant memory in favor of a push for prevention. That is what our website will emphasize too. Even if you cannot come to our weekend, I hope that you will encourage all the "healthy" folks you know to join us on our site and learn about holistic health.
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NIA is really awesome. I did it a few days in a row during a yoga retreat. I was reluctant and uncomfortable because "dance-y" stuff is way outside my comfort zone! :-) So, I tried it a few times (largely due to peer pressure!) Within 3 days I felt incredibly empowered, so much more comfortable with living in my body and with fluid movement. There was a certain confidence unearthed by the NIA. I found myself unconsciously dancing around my apartment after that! I am quite sure I never did before that weekend!
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Very interesting, I eat from this list everyday
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Hi ivorymom -- haven't seen you in a while and was thinking of you. Where've you been?
Vivre, I want to come to the weekend even more now that you have NIA. I found some youtubes on it months ago and felt it would be something I'd really like.
I'm now reading Breakthrough by Suzanne Somers. Wow! I had low expectations based on how I didn't really care for a previous book of hers. I don't have a sweet tooth much anymore, but I used to and I checked out her recipe book for desserts. Apparently she'd attempted to launch a sugar substitute at some point called somersweet, and all her receipes called for it, plus there were a lot of eggs. I just wasn't impressed. And when she was promoting Knockout, the whole terminology about being told she had 'whole body cancer' just didn't sound right to me. We know the lingo around here, and no one ever talks about 'whole body cancer.' Now I kinda wonder if she was fed some bogus vocabulary just so she'd sound unsophistocated when she went on to report on her experience.
Anyway, I didn't have any high expectations when I saw the book at the library, but now that I'm reading it, I'm very impressed with the information she's put together and the doctors she found.
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Like Merilee, I eat everyday from that list, ivorymom. Finally a researcher calling food "chemotherapy"? Now that's encouraging.....
Yeah, I had never heard about NIA, but now I am eager to try it, too.
althea: I have not read anything from Suzanne Somers yet, but perhaps I'll try with Breakthrough: it sounds impressive.
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I loved Breakthrough. I could not put it down. I know she is bashed for writing it. The whole dumb blond thing some people just cannot get past. But I liked that she interviewed doctors who think outside the box. Just like us!
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I just did the calculators, it says my life expectancy would improve by 1 day if I take tamox......ummm.......
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fairy: where did you find this wonderful result on Tamoxifen? I would like to do it, too.0
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Yaz, here is the link that Eff had posted on the other page. then scroll up and there a bunch of links at the top of the page.
http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/79/topic/746211?page=1#idx_22
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Fairy, I am DYING laughing... that just struck me as so funny!
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My numbers aren't so good
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..but they could always be worse.
yes - very funny L. Did you factor in the 45% rate though because it may only be a half day.
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Prepubertal Gynecomastia Linked to Lavender and Tea Tree Oils
Publication: New England Journal of Medicine, February 2007 Study summary: Three cases of gynecomastia (enlarged breasts) in prepubertal boys who were otherwise healthy were found to be caused by the topical application of products containing lavender and tea tree oils. The boys were aged 4 years 5 months, 10 years 1 month, and 7 years 10 months. Each boy had normal serum concentrations of endogenous steroids. The products linked to the enlarged breasts were a healing balm containing lavender oil, a hair styling gel and a shampoo both listing Lavandula angustifolia (lavender) oil and Melaleuca alternifolia (tea tree) oil as ingredients, lavender-scented soap and lavender-scented commercial skin lotions. After discontinuing the use of these products, the gynecomastia resolved within several months in each of the patients. Testing using dose-response experiments in human breast cancer cell lines led the authors to conclude that the two oils have estrogenic and antiandrogenic properties.0 -
I cut and pasted the above because I have been trying to figure out whether to keep or chuck my Avalon Organics Co Q 10 Wrinkle Defense Creme. Maybe some of you have seen other research on Lavandula angustifolia (lavender).
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Luna - ugh, I have Avalon Organics' whole line of lavender skin care. I am so terribly sad to read that article.............. 0
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Thanks for posting that Luna. I had read something a while ago about tea tree oil being estrogenic, so I have avoided it. I did not know lavender was too. This is why I have tossed almost all unHealth and beauty products. I stick to pure, organic coconut oil for my skin and lips and only use epsom salts in my bath. I don' t trust any manufactured stuff anymore. They are allowed to put all kinds of things in products that they only have to list as "frangrance". Maybe those three wisemen really were wise. Frankensense and myrr (sp?) are supposed to be anticancer. It is amazing how the old ways still seem best. We need to go back to the future.
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Thanks, Luna.! That is the first I heard about tea tree oil. EVery soap dispenser in my house had Jason's tea tree/Melaleuca hand soap for years.
BTW - I have uncovered so many underlying issues from testing - and my functional medicine doc wants me to do a series of Glutathione IV pushes. Has anyone done this? I remember reading about the Glutathione patches that Suzanne Somers used - although he discounted those. ANyone have any personal experience with the patch?
Beth
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Good morning ladies,
Welcome to all newcomers
Fairy, that made me chuckle
.OMG, I was actually thinking about trying the Avalon Organics. I was doing a little research on this product just yesterday. WOW, I am soooo glad I am a part of this wonderful thread. Guess I won't be using this. I will stick to what I have. Thank you Ladies.
Spring-sending hugs your way.
My Husband and I are on are way to a much needed weekend away from kids, work, etc.
Have a good Valentines weekend ladies.
BIG HUGS,
Jenny.
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Hi Gang...I was quite concerned to read on this thread about Tea Tree Oil and Lavender being estrogenic. So I decided to do a bit of poking. Now this is just a first stab at digging deeper, however, I found this link so I wanted to share it with you. I will do some more research and see if I can come up with anything else either way.
http://bubbleandbee.blogspot.com/2009/09/lavender-tea-tree-estrogenic.html
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Thanks, PurpleMe.
Beth
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Fairy ~ ONE day!!?? Bwah-ha! That's outrageous!
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fragrance standards are actually strict. thats why some products say - linalool, coumarin, eugenol, geraniol, etc called out because they are over the threshhold standards. more and more ingredients are being taken out of fragrances because of the bad press they get.
lavender can be bad in high concentrations but doubtful that the products the boys or any of us use have enough in there to be of concern. if your product says lavender oil then i might not use it just to be safe but its usually 1% in a dilution and that is then diluted further when its put on your body,.
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Here is another link that might "suggest" lavender oil is estrogenic- maybe/maybe not. However, the problem I have with this study is what other ingredients were in these products? Did these scientists test all of the common ingredients separately or just the tea tree and lavender? While I am not saying that their research was wrong...I do question:
(1) the size of the study - come on 3 boys...really? that's it?
(2) the only common ingredient found was lavender and/or tea tree...again..really?
While I definitely agree with the idea that "just because it is natural doesn't make it safe", I also think that if you are going to do a study on a natural ingredient do a proper study.
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