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Hope everyone had a nice Thanksgiving and did not eat too much of the trimmings. Who invented some of those horrible recipes anyway? I love the thanks part, but hate the food.
Kouragio-you are doing the right thing by researching. Have you tried any of the alternative care facilities? They usually put a lof of emphasis on nutrition. I met a gal at the Health Freedom Expo who swears she cured her cancer with graviola. I also just went to a seminar by a nutritionist who was teaching about the Kelley/Gonzalez program, which emphasizes eating for your metabolism and I met another gal who wrote a book after being treated at the Rubio Center, where they use the body's own immune system. And one of my doctors is talking about a supplement he got in Japan called AHCC. There are lots of different things that you can try. Just keep looking for information and testimonials. It seems like you already have a good support system which is great. God Bless.
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Kouragio, Sorry to have to welcome you to the club...but you've come to the right place. The ladies on this forum are very well informed and I'm sure you can find alot of answers to your questions if you just read back from the start. It's alot to take in but you'll be doing yourself a big favor by reading and making informed decisions.
Speaking of the dirty dozen and clean fifteen, is there somewhere where I can get a list of those items???
This may sound stupid, but I've been washing my veggies (non organic) with a bit of dishsoap and then wiping them off really well where I can. I feel I'll take my chances with the soap over the pesticides....Those that can be peeled are peeled otherwise I try to clean them as well as possible. I do understand though that some of the chemicals are absorbed into the layers of the outer skin so it's impossible to get it all off. I know organic is the best, but they are so expensive in the stores where I live and being in Canada, we can't grow organic all year round so the cost of imported fruits and veggies adds up.
Terri
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apple cider vinegar and baking soda work as a great cleanser for fruits and veggies
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Actually here is the recipe
and website for good and bads
http://www.doctoroz.com/videos/produce-and-pesticides-what-you-need-know
Ingredients
1 cup water
1 cup distilled white vinegar
1 tbsp baking soda
1/2 of a lemon
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Here's another list...
The 2010 Dirty Dozen
1.Celery
2.Peaches
3.Strawberries
4.Apples
5.Blueberries
6.Nectarines
7.Bell Peppers
8.Spinach
9.Kale
10.Cherries
11.Potatoes
12.Grapes (Imported)
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The 2010 Clean Fifteen
1.Onions
2.Avocado
3.Sweet Corn
4.Pineapple
5.Mango
6.Sweet Peas
7.Asparagus
8.Kiwi
9.Cabbage
10.Eggplant
11.Cantaloupe
12.Watermelon
13.Grapefruit
14.Sweet Potato
15.Honeydew Melon
http://www.kitchenstewardship.com/2010/04/29/2010-dirty-dozen-produce-list-released-by-the-ewg/
That's actually good to know about the mangos...as I have two large trays (30 mangos) sitting on my kitchen bench.
Victoria
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Claire82: Thanks so much for the link and the recipe for the veggie/fruit cleaner. I'll make up a batch tomorrow. Makes me feel sick just thinking about all the pesticides were ingesting!
Asschercut: Thank you for the dirty/clean list. I'll be sure to knock off the "dirty" from my grocery list until I can get my hands on some organic. I just LOVE blueberries and apples and hate to think that I have to give them up! And your link is very informative...thanks for sharing.
Terri
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Mollyann, you're on! Anyone on this thread who can make it to south Texas next year for Thanksgiving is invited to my house! Bring your own pheasant! lol The glass is for collecting the aroma of the sauce, which contains brandy, wine, cream, broth, shallot, and mushrooms. ...and the jus de poulet, aka demi glace, which packs some extra flavor into the sauce. Here's the link to the recipe I used if anyone's interested.
http://spectacularlydelicious.com/2010/02/09/recipe-pheasant-under-glass/Placing the birds under the glass is for keeping them warm and for collecting the aroma. When the glass dome is lifted, the aroma wafts over the table for everyone to inhale and get the taste buds watering.
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kouragio: Gret advice above! I would also go to breastcancerchoices.org not as an alternative for treatment but for information and also to look into iodine supplementation: http://breastcancerchoices.org/iodine.html0
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Claire & Ashercut: Thank you!!!
Althea: Sounds amazingly rich but maybe I will make this for Christmas! Thanks!
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Thanks everyone for the advice. Where can I get Graviola juice?
Althea: I was called "wonderwoman" till 3months ago b/c I managed to "appear" to balance raising 5 children, have a busy job, and run a busy home...BUT I did not take care of myself! I ate crap, was highly stressed, never had a whole day to myself, haven't slept for longer than 4 hour uninterrupted period in 6 years (b/c of the children), and now I am paying the price of having Stage 4 cancer at 39 years old...but I have always been optimistic, and will try all the above..xox
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Dear Kouragio,
You've come to the right place! Hopefully we can offer those tools that we found beneficial. When I was diagnosed and treated over 9 years ago, thankfully, my oncology team (at one of Boston's world renowned hospitals) suggested I get a second if not a third opinion as to my course of treatment and that lead me searching for answers. In the very least it lead me on the path to a healthier lifestyle as most of the ladies here can attest too. But, what does that mean!
Although you may hear some different opinions about specific diet choices for healing and good health, the good news is you've discovered it's mostly about diet. I think most of us can agree that the terrible fake-food products of the typical Western diet were reeking havoc on our bodies.
So...on to more interesting thoughts...some books and movies that might be helpful:
Book: Your Life in Your Hands, Understanding Preventing and Overcoming Breast Cancer by Jane Plant (Read it when I was first diagnosed and have not consumed dairy since.)
The movies: Food Inc. and King Corn (Fascinating insight in to our nation's food supply and the industrialization of it)
Book: The Omnivores Dilemma and Food Rules, by Michael Pollan (Just really cool books on the subject...he was featured in movie King Corn way back when...)
Book: Skinny Bitch (I had a colleague ask me what do "they knew about healthy lifestyles" and I flipped it over and showed her their pictures on the back cover. They are both super models. It's a fun easy read. They promote a vegan diet.)
Please keep us posted.
p.s. You can change a households diet, albeit slowly. Our youngest is 11 and I can't remember when he last stepped foot in a large "super" market chain (besides Whole Foods) because he was so little when I was first diagnosed and treated. A few years ago he asked my mother for a fruit platter for his October birthday and we all thought he was nuts because we live in New England and it would cost a lot less to make a cheap crappy cake with nasty icing for about $4.99. So...I remembered the adage "What's the price of your health." Every October he gets cut up pineapple and other fruit for his birthday. Now, he can't wait for his 17 year old brother's November birthday when clementines from Spain are in season. Our 15 year old daughter is still licking the icing from the pan. But, hey...I'll pick my battles. At least it's not dairy and we use the non-hydrogenated cooking margarine's.
All the best health always,
SuperMom101
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Few more resources:
Anticancer - A New Way of Life by DavidServn-Schreiber, MD, PhD (He was diagnosed and treated twice for brain cancer)
The China Study, Colin T. Campbell (Western diet and diseases vs. Traditional Chinese diet)
American Institute for Cancer Research http://www.aicr.org/ (Funding research on the relationship of nutrition, physical activity and weight management to cancer risk, interpreting the accumulated scientific literature in the field, educating people about choices they can make to reduce their chances of developing cancer)
The Cancer Project http://www.cancerproject.org (The Cancer Project promotes cancer prevention and survival through a better understanding of cancer causes, particularly the link between nutrition and cancer. Through research, education, and advocacy, we are saving lives.)
Best health always...
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supermom- Thanks for the excellent roundup of resources. I had missed a few on the list. Right now I am reading Anticancer by SErvan. Fabulous!!! By the way, as I am so often delayed in radiation, lots of the ladies asked about it. Now I see there are three of us sitting there reading the same book. Hooray!
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Dr. Servans book is indeed one of the best out there. I also recommend "The Wisdom of Menopuase" by Dr. Northrup (this book empowered me to have faith in my own instincts), "What Your Dr. Doesn't Know about Nutrition" by Dr. Ray Strand ( I took supplements during treatments based on his own positive casestudies, and had great results) and "Treatable and Beatable" by Carolyn Gross. Carolyn is also a thriver, 8 years out, after a recurrance she went "natural" and has never looked back. I met her at the Health Freedom Expo, and I felt like I met a sister.
About the Graviola-I just found a summary about alternative treatments and Graviola was listed as not very effective. I posted it on my website but forgot to post it here.The truth is, no one thing works for the same person. But I say, throw the book at it and use them all!
Althea-I am so glad to hear you are finally getting to the root of your problems. You are such a testimonial to perseverance. FYI, Carolyn Gross was treated at the Rubio Center, right over the border from El Paso, I think. Sad that so many people have to go to Mexico for treatments because the FDA would shut them down if they dared to "cure" cancer in the US.
Speaking of sad, or should I say MAD. The senate just passed the extremely flawed S.510 bill. This bill puts more power in the hands of the FDA. Not only could this put an end to farmers markets, because every person cannot sell anything unless it is FDA approved, it would do the same for our supplements. It just infuriates me that our freedoms are slowly being taken away. Imagine if our grandmothers could not get milk from the neighbors cow because the neighbor was not FDA approved. This is what is happening. Iodine is next to impossible to get in EU because FDA convinced CODEX that is was dangerous. Next stop for banning iodine, the USA! I am sick and tired of government controlling my life.
Wish I could afford to buy my own island.
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vivre, that is so disheartening that S.510 passed! Politics makes my stomach sour, but I did step up and ask my senators to vote against it.
I've read nearly all the recent reading suggestions. I love Dr Northrup's books, but she doesn't focus on breast health as much as I'd like. I loved Dr Strand's book. I've read two of Pollan's books, and I liked In Defense of Food a lot more than Omnivore's Dilemma.
One of my favorites along the way was Dr. Christina Horner's Waking the Warrior Goddess. She was the driving force behind the legislation that led to insurance companies being required by federal law to cover reconstructive surgery at the same rate as any other surgery.
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Hi ladies, me again.
This time I'm writing because of my mom. I'm involved with her doctor visits and phone calls now, and it makes MY head swim, and it's no wonder she exhibits mental confusion with all the dozen plus meds she's on. Now they want to add another one -- again -- for yet another urinary tract infection (so glad I haven't inherited this problem). She's had them time and again for decades.
The previous bout was last summer. I bought her some d mannose hoping it would help. For whatever reason, she's compliant in taking scrips but balks at supplements (and she's related to ME? go figure!) Anyway, she didn't want to take the d mannose, and later I read that it's only effective against e coli infections.
Her current infection, and the previous one, are caused by Pseudomonas aeruginosa. From the reading I've done so far today, it sounds like it's very difficult to treat, and it can be deadly for people with AIDS or cystic fibrosis. Mom's allergic to sulfa drugs, and she tanked after taking cipro.
Despite all the exposure to our 'health' care system that bc gave me, I still feel like a babe in the woods when it comes to knowing how to navigate for my mom. My mom is a perfectionist, and her mom was also, so I was raised to think it's reasonable to have ridiculously high expectations of people. I've worked hard to dial back this trait, but geez louise, doesn't it seem OBVIOUS that it was time for her to see a specialist a LONG TIME ago?? ....dont' know if there's a specialist worth a copay around here, but that's another matter. I look forward to y'all's feedback.
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Girls, I've been so depressed today about S.510 passing... it's absolutely sickening. Obviously we all agree that food should be safe, but that means de-industrializing it, dumping GMO's and other poisonous industrial food products, and letting small farms flourish!!
It's INSANE that the major food recalls, e coli/salmonella outbreaks, etc. have to do with industrial food... NOT small farms... so why punish the small farms and those of us who buy from them?? Ugh, I'm just sick to death over it.
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Claire82- Thanks for the solution for cleaning the veggies/fruit. And to Asschercut, the list of dirty/clean foods. (My little notebook I keep by the computer is getting full with all the great information.)
I've been reading about Kelley/Gonzales but can't find anyone but Gonzales that will give any info about the treatments. I'm not able to fly to NY to see him either. It does sound like the blood typing and eating the right foods for your type is the answer for me. I'm not crazy about meats but can try and eat healthy chicken/turkey. And, the milk thing makes sense to me since it's on the no list for my type. No wonder it always upset my stomach.
About the pans for cooking. I've tried some really nice stainless that work my my electric glass top. I would love to have the cast iron but they're not recommended for this type of range. Does anyone know if the ceramic coated work OK?
Looks like I'm going to have to go find more of these wonderful books that you all recommended.
Pheasant under glass sounded amazing!
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Ok, it's me again, and this time I'm here to vent. My oldest brother is such an ASSSSSSSSSSSS!! He's been steadily frosting out his entire original family for years now. Nearly a decade between the two brothers, he's frosty to my mom, and then he started being frosty to me also 3 years ago. There *might* be phone calls in excess of dozen. Maybe. And with maybe one or two exceptions, when I call him, he'll preface the call by saying he can't stay on the phone very long. Then he'll complain about people keeping secrets from him! Good grief.
So in the interest of 'not keeping secrets' I sent an email to both my brothers about my mom's latest debacle with yet another uti. Mainly, I'm casting my net for information about this Psuedomonas aeruginosa bacteria and what kinds of treatments are available. ...because as we all know here in this group, lord have mercy on anyone who depends on their doctor to provide a complete list of options!
I sent the message then left the house to get some groceries and fix dinner at mom's house. Within moments of walking in the door, the phone rings. It's my jackass brother. He starts by saying he left a message on my phone and figured I'd be at mom's so he calls my mom's house to talk to ME. And then he proceeds to say it's very very bad that she's getting so many uti's and it's time to make arrangements to put mom in an institution. He didn't even want to TALK to mom! I put him on the phone with her anyway. I figure she won't remember whatever he says to her anyway. Meanwhile, I'm keeping my cool. Now that I'm home I just have to tell somebody that I have a total jackass for a brother!! What on earth could possess ANYBODY to think it's a good idea to call me at my mom's house to say it's time to put mom in an institution?? What an ASSSS.
Ok, I feel better now
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althea vent away. We all need it sometimes. It is hard enough dealing with aging parents much less dealing with family members that don't get it.
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Aw Althea, I'm so sorry you're going through all that. Ugh. Like Sherry said, VENT AWAY!!! and if you need someone to come over and give your brother a good swift kick, I shall be happy to oblige!!!!
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Althea: Yeah...he is a real ASSSSS.
I have one sister like that (my other 3 sisters a pretty cool) whose cup is always half-empty. Never sees the positive in a situation, always thinks she is so super-smart by engaging in talk that will make her life easier. I think your brother started feeling pressure that he might actually be asked to do something constructive for your poor mum and be required to help out a litle too...heaven forbid!...xox
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Althea..has your mom tried D-Mannose? My daughter started taking this many months ago, and has not had a UTI since. Trust me she had UTI's and bladder infections all her life.She was dx with TNBC in 2007, and just from the hellish chemo she had repeated uti's.
http://health.learninginfo.org/natural-remedy-urinary-tract-infections.htm
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Althea-I understand how you feel. I have 5 brothers and have taken care of all of them from time to time and not one of them ever called to see how I was doing during my treatments, nor did my father. I was so hurt and angry about this for quite a while.I have pretty much just walked away from them. I realized that they could suck me dry if I let it get to me so I moved on. Breast cancer makes you aware that life is too short to waste on people who are not there for you. I learned to accept the fact that I had no control over how they behaved, but I did have control over how I react to them. I have no animosity towards the men in my family, I have accepted them for who they are, and I pray they will be well. That is all I can control.
In Re to your mother-Isn't cranberry juice suppose to be good for UTI? It is obvious that all those meds are doing this. Her digestive system is being destroyed by all those drugs. Perhaps a probiotic would help too?
I am thinking of setting up a live chat on my website so that we can have real time conversations on specific topics, books, etc. I have a couple of docs who might be willing to chat too. What do you guys think?
Our first snow! It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas. I love it!
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Althea, Sorry to hear that you too have a brother that's an ASSSSSSSSSSSSSS! I've had one since 1989 when my Dad passed away. It's unfair that one sibling has to bare the burden of taking care of his/her parent alone but unfortunately that's all to often the case. I did it for my parents and I have 3 brothers! I found that too much information leads to stupid conversations and them trying to fix things the easiest way possible and not necessarily in a way that's best for the parent. My suggestion is to do your best, inform your siblings only when you have to and believe me, someone "up there" is taking notes. Best of all, you'll sleep well at night knowing that you did what you had to do. Your siblings on the other hand will have to deal with their own demons when the time comes....
Terri
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I too can relate to all. I have one brother that didn't call me to see how I was doing during my treatment. He also is an a**hole when it comes to helping me with my mom. I do have another brother that is a real gem so I am very fortunate there!!!! I'm with vivre - I don't dwell on the a**hole!
I have read that blueberry juice is very good for bladder problems. I think the probiotic would help also.
I'm having a colonoscopy done in a few weeks. I'm not thrilled with the prep at all. It says to mix Miralax with Gatorade or Crystal Light. I don't want either of those in my system. Does anyone have any suggestions what else I could use?
We had our first snow fall today. It is beginning to look and feel like Christmas!!!!
Love to all, Patty
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Patty-
I had one earlier this year, and believe me, you'll want Gatorade or some other lemony mix. The prep mix is .... how can I politely say this.... NOT GOOD. The procedure itself will be nothing, but the prep-- the worst! The only thing I could say is maybe making your own homemade lemonade to go with the mix? It might taint lemonade for you. I know I'll never drink Gatorade again, due to that experience!
Good luck with the prep. Just remember to keep lots of magazines onhand for reading time in your bathroom!
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Remember the mid wife saying real 100% cranberry juice being the best for UTI because of the acidity. She said, "Fruit cocktails" have all the sugar which makes it worse.
Probiotics are also another good suggestion to build back up the "good" bacteria. Our oldest had such horrible recurring sinus infections when he was in elementary school that they performed a CAT scan. On the way home I stopped at the holistic/regular pharmacist and he suggested a probiotic when taking the "anti"biotic...he hasn't had one since.
Best health (physically, mentally and spiritually) always,
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Marianna - lol thanks!!! I had the "scope" done about five years ago. I don't do sugar anymore and Gatorade it nothing but (butt, lol). I plan on just sleeping on the toilet the night before!!!
Patty
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