MIDDLE-AGED WOMEN 40-60ish

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  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,890

    Sorry that your nest is emptying so suddenly, Barsco, but that is a lovely area that your son is moving to, right?  So you'll have to plan a visit before too long.

    Chacha, I have a feeling you are right about the percentage for hotties, with another 2% being added just for Marlegal's posts alone!  On a related note, did you see the new People Magazine's Sexiest Man that just came out.  It is Channing Tatum.  So disappointing.  He's just not my type at all.  Not even if I was 20 years younger.   I'd take the kid from the Twilight movies over him, even.

    Cindyl, I hear you on the overkill of appointments.  Don't you just resent having to give B/C the time of day?  So many times I felt that I'd rather be doing anything else other than all that follow-up, including poking myself in the eye with a sharp stick. 


  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 498

    Yeah, I am so over spending my time sitting in waiting rooms and spending my money on meds, copays, etc...

  • eph3_12
    eph3_12 Member Posts: 2,704

    Ok, so I semi-agree on the Channing Tatum thing (altho the Twilight boy DOESN"T make the grade at all) BUT, BUT, BUT Channing Tatum in "Magic Mike" is well MAGIC.    

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,890

    I fell asleep during Magic Mike.  When I woke up, some guys were giving ruffies to sorority girls (in the movie.)  I could not even watch that, Eph!  Granted, we're not young ladies anymore, but what is passing for studly these days...sheesh!   Or must I have estrogen to even have an opinion about this?

  • chachamom
    chachamom Member Posts: 410

    This about sums up my opinion...from the Washington Post blog.



    There has been much pushback already against People magazine’s selection of Channing Tatum as its “Sexiest Man Alive.” Everyone agrees with the third word, but that is as far as it goes. Slate’s Amanda Hess quibbles: ”Our Sexiest Man is white. Straight. Ginormous. Frequently goateed. Wearing a white tank top in his cover photo. Yes, he can dance. But as a nation, we must ask: What is left of Channing Tatum’s sex appeal after the final strains of Ginuwine’s “Pony” recede?”



    This is a good question. I wish I could say, “I’m not against Channing Tatum, at least, not as often as I’d like to be,” but, ew. I’m sorry. Buzzfeed is right: He looks like a thumb. A thumb not gifted with tremendous personal magnetism.

  • valjean
    valjean Member Posts: 1,110

    A bit of a change of subject here.

    Given our middle ages these days & having undergone bc DX & TX stress & trying to focus on moving forward, has anybody found themselves to be more forgiving of, let's say, a friend or family member? While not going into long drawn out details, there is someone that I considered a very good friend, in a round-about way related through family, that, a few years ago, after her DH passing away, moved forward in a direction that I did not agree with. At first I did not have a problem with her decision & then, as time passed, I began to change my mind. What was happening with her was very similar to something that had happened to me a very long time ago by someone very close to me. I found myself pulling away from her, I didn't contact her & I barely responded to any communication from her, if at all.

    But, as time has passed, I have softened in my opinion & a few weeks ago, she reached out to me again & I replied back. I was not proud of my past feelings (I know I hurt her beause I pulled away) & I discussed it in depth with my DD & a very good friend. I wrote to this person & explained how I felt, what led up to it (an incident that she was aware of), and how I was feeling about it now. I asked her forgiveness & told her how sorry I was.

    Has this happened to any of you? Maybe because of what we have gone through... the bc, all the treatments, trying to wrap our heads around everything? Maybe our outlook on life is ............... different?? As we grow older (who, us?!?), we see things differently, don't we? Do we realize that we have changed? That we are changing? We see things in a different light because our children see things in a different light? We see through newer eyes? Our older parents & older aunts & uncles are, too?

    Sorry to be so long here & to hijack this away from the celebration & the C/C topic before (love ya, E!!), but this is something I have been thinking about.

    We are more forgiving? I have become that different person. I believe it is one of the ways that bc has changed me. And, being in the middle of my life and beyond, I have grown.

  • chachamom
    chachamom Member Posts: 410

    On a more personal note, today is one week since my DIEP. I was feeling like superwoman until last night.....

    Today was tough to slip.....but an important lesson to me to slow down. It's difficult to know that line between staying active enough and get enough rest. I am SO SWOLLEN!!!!!

    My DH has me on "lock-down" now. But I know he's right....

    My DM came over tonight and gave me a shampoo and a back rub.....heaven!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 2,845

    Valjean, yes, I think my approach has changed somewhat. I am still the same person obviously, but I second-guess myself much less, I am more forgiving of the small things, I stress much less.

    But it goes the other way too. People who disappeared when I got sick? I am not angry, but I am also not going out of my way to call them or look them up, something I might have done in the past. I avoid BS and things that bore me, where in the past I might have put up with it. I am more direct, for better and worse.

  • LindaKR
    LindaKR Member Posts: 1,304

    Valjean - I think that I am, I'm also more likely to not sweat the small stuff, definitely more direct.  Pretty much agree with everything that Momine said, I still stress some, but a lot less.  When I read Momine's though I thought why is she avoiding the breast surgeon Tongue Out, the realized she really meant BS Laughing

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 2,845

    Linda, sometimes avoiding BS and avoiding the BS amount to the same thing ;)

  • TAB55
    TAB55 Member Posts: 71

    Momine: So true Smile

    Valjean: I think the biggest change I've noticed is that I am SO grateful these days.  I don't take much for granted (like having two breasts) anymore. I also appreciate the friends and family that were supportive of me, and don't have much time for those who were MIA.  I think the gratitude has softened my attitude about minor annoyances.  I've always been impatient (especially with BS) and direct, and I can't imagine being more impatient or direct.  Actually, I can imagine it, and it's not pretty.  I guess we can't go through the cancer fight and not be changed.

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 498

    Valjean - mixed bag here.  Some things I used to worry about a lot don't even get a second thought anymore. Other things that I was OK with? REALLY tick me off now. I'd like to claim that I'm a better, stronger person now. More understanding of people's foibles.  But the truth is I'm still me, still "just like your father" as Mom always says when she's mad at me. 

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,890

    LOL, Momine, you so funny!

    Chacha, Give it a rest today...your Superwoman cape has to go into the laundry.  You'll be putting it back on soon enough.

    Val, Maybe the lesson was to just deal with things directly (which it sounds like you did.)  B/C certainly teaches us that we can't run, hide, or stick our heads in the sand when faced with something unpleasant or something we cannot control.  Life continues to be full of growth, but we have to guide the direction of that growth.  I have to say one thing about middle-age, the self-awareness can be pretty incredible.  Sounds like just being honest and putting your feelings out there was the best approach you could have taken to repair that friendship.

  • Meece
    Meece Member Posts: 10,618

    Been submerged in prep for DS's wedding for weeks and am trying to catch up on everything.  

    Stopped by to say hi, and hope everyone is doing well.

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,890

    So I had two exciting scans yesterday and this is how it went...

    I said it before and I will say it again...I love MRIs.  To me, the noise is like techno-industrial music.  I like to pass the time giving the different "tracks" names, like "Woodpeckers on Crack," and I am pretty sure I recognized a few punk riffs from the early 80's.  Plus, the tube is warm and cozy.  I almost fell asleep, but in the last five minutes my neck got a little pinchy and the adorable chipmonk pose I had assumed with my forearms was no longer comfortable.  After the MRI was finished, the tech told me I could toss my earplugs or take them home with me if I wanted.  "Well, I am married," was my reply.

    My second scan did have a surprise:  I had a reaction to the iodine-based contrast dye used for the CT.  I had a couple views already done, then I got the dye injection and tech did another series, then asked how I was doing.  I told her my throat and tongue and lips were itchy.  Things came to a grinding halt and she had a nurse in there in about 10 seconds, a doc about 15 sec. later.  I got a little hivey around the mouth but then the itching kind of receded and we were able to complete the final series.  They wanted me to stay for another 30 min. to observe me, however it had been a long 3 & 1/2 hours, so after I was dressed and had drank a Sprite, I told them I was fine to drive home, just 10 min. away. 

    Are any of you allergic to the CT contrast?  They told me I would have to pre-medicate with Benadryl and Prednisone for my future CTs.  Annoying!

  • elimar
    elimar Member Posts: 5,890

    Congrats, Meece!  Which of your two bachelor's is getting married, and when?  How much work is there for mother of the groom these days?  With two boys, I hope I don't have to have too much responsibility when my time comes.   I don't fit the description of "doing well" right now, with that story already told in the last few pages of this thread and still unfolding.

  • chachamom
    chachamom Member Posts: 410

    Eli:  You are SO funny!  LOL re: the cape!  I've never had a reaction to the contrast......but I wonder if, like other things....you can develop an allergy over multiple uses? 

    Re: the conversation of how we are changed...TAB55 said it best for me....SOOOOOO Grateful.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605

    Jill, if by DM you mean mother then I am GOBSMACKED!!! When my mother was alive, she wouldn't wash my hair or give me a backrub if you put a gun to her head!!! I hope she is reading this in heaven or hell or wherever she is. I just KNOW that she wouldn't touch me in a loving way!!! So I am just blown away that you have that. Hold on to it tightly, you are very, very lucky!!

  • chachamom
    chachamom Member Posts: 410

    Yes, Barbe.....I am VERY lucky!  She is not only loving and caring as my mom....she is my dearest friend.  And at 82, she is incredibly healthy and strong!

  • nativemainer
    nativemainer Member Posts: 7,962

    Most allergies develop after repeated exposure to something, like the contrast dye or latex rubber.  People have had near fatal reactions to bee stings after getting them for years without anything more than the usual reactions.  Anybody ever develop a rash while taking an antibiotic?  That's an allergic reaction developed after repeated exposure.  The same thing happens with pain medication, most notoriously oxycodone/oxycontin. 

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605

    OMG if I ever become allergic to morphine (the oxy's) what would I do???? I presently take 140 mgs a day and can't imagine what they would change it to if that happened!!! I was given a "test" drug once for a lung infection. The drug was FACTIVE and my lower face swelled up so hard that fluid was oozing out of my skin!! The drug never did get approved!

  • nativemainer
    nativemainer Member Posts: 7,962

    Barbe--if you develop an allergy to morphine you could be switched to oxycodone, codiene, dilaudid, or methadone.  Cross sensitivities between opioids are unusual, and there are enough classes of them that I've never been in a situation where something didn't work without triggering allergic reaction.  Also, allergies to the opioid medications is relatively rare since the body makes it's own version of them called endorphins.  Most of the time it's not the opioid itself that someone reacts to but one of the chemicals used in processing or as a filler.  I know several people that can take one brand of a medication but not another for that reason. 

  • Dianarose
    Dianarose Member Posts: 1,951

    Elimar- when I had my CT after she put in the iodine I felt like I had a boa consticter around my neck. I just started to cry. I was pretty frazzeled by then. She had to stop the IV and did the scan with what she did get in me. It ended up that I had to have a PET scan anyhow. I say skip the CT and go straight to the PET scan. Did you have to drink those wonderful coffee flavored shakes the night before?

  • Reality
    Reality Member Posts: 532

    barbe - thanks for your concern, but being alone is great for me. I really just want to be with my 3 cats and dog. I love my daughter dearly, but she works a lot of doubles as a CNA - our schedules are so opposite - I feel like I am walking on egg shells most of the time - I just want my space back. She also needs hers - She will only be 5 mins away from me. Also, my grandchildren only live two blocks away and my son is 10 mins. away. It really will be fine. 

    Sherry

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 7,605

    Glad you let me know Sherry! It's been a while since we've heard from you. I love my own space too, so I understand.

    Native, I had a doc tell me that codeine and all the oxy's are just morphine in different forms (I get Morphine Sulphate which is just purer morphine apparently). So methadone is my next step if this stuff stops working. This is the first time I'm balanced on pain/meds, so hopefully I won't need an up-dose for a while yet.

  • eph3_12
    eph3_12 Member Posts: 2,704

    That's quite a tree!

  • Outdamnedspot
    Outdamnedspot Member Posts: 164

    I was thinking the same thing about that tree.  Mother Nature is amazing.

  • eph3_12
    eph3_12 Member Posts: 2,704

    Outdamnedspot-love your name!!!! Are you not starting Tamox till next year? 

  • Outdamnedspot
    Outdamnedspot Member Posts: 164

    Yikes!  Thanks for the heads up on that Eph3...first it was my memory, now my eyes.  

    I started Tamoxifen last Tuesday, November13.  So far so good.  

  • Cindyl
    Cindyl Member Posts: 498

    So, I was complaining to a friend about hot flashes and not sleeping and she bought me a package of Estroven, Nighttime.  Do I dare take it?  I supose I should check with my MO or pharmacy, but I figured that someone here has already done the research...