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  • Lovelyface
    Lovelyface Member Posts: 563
    edited July 2011

    Roxessence, I am just like you, my 53 years of life perfectly healthy, no falls, no fractures, no diagnoses, no high blood pressure, no nothing, and then breast cancer strikes.  I also don't have any risk factors, no one in the family had any type of cancer, touch wood, I am the first.  Nobody knows what this beast is, nobody.  When I read books about how cancer is a huge imbalance in the body, I feel so outraged, as I never felt any imbalance.  I was perfectly healthy with no medications.  If only, I had a small clue where it comes from, especially the TN, why is that so different from the other types.  There are no correct answers.  One thing I must say is that you being so healthy, is great, it will most definitely help you with your chemo.  I felt really great when my doctor told me that at least I can take in the drugs, there are some unfortunate women who have other diseases and are not able to be given chemo.  So I count my blessings that I was able to take in the treatment.

    My MRI results came out today, which is not bad.  However, there are things which are disturbing such as "a greater amount of background glandular enhancement is identified".  This worries me why there is greater enhancement on the left breast where the cancer was.  I am surprised since this breast had 30 Rads, so why the enhancements just 3 months finished rads?  Does the Rads cause enhancements?  Has anyone else experienced this?

  • Paintingmywaythru
    Paintingmywaythru Member Posts: 221
    edited July 2011

    Katfinn...Dr. Irene Kuder @ MGH is a well known oncologist. There is also someone else on this baord who has an onc from MGH and thinks they are the best.

    I ahve been in the hospital with Low WBC and fever and mouth ulcers. Rough ride. Just got discharged on antibiotics, anti-fungals, and miracle magic moiuthwash---but hven't been able to eat or swallow much of anything. It sucks when it hurts to put water in your mouth.ANd I have open studios today. My family will play me. I can't talk.

    The onc says my body reacted as though it got too too much chemo and htey will reduce the dose and see how I do. Can't be sure I will be over these problems by then. Hope so.

    After a day, I Got very grumpy in the hospital so I knew I was getting better.

    Best to all.

  • kyroheal
    kyroheal Member Posts: 5
    edited July 2011

    Roxessence, welcome to the board! You will find alot of support here. In keeping with the glass half full, your accident may be a blessing in disguise, leading you to the discovery of your lump and thankfully before node involvement. Goodluck, you will be ok.



    In regards to the BMX discussion, I am considering this avenue as I am only 27 years old. My thought is if I can reduce breast tissue (I realize there must be some left) I can reduce my chance of a new primary. I realize that I would be closely monitored with MRI ultrasounds etc. But I don't want to find anything!!! If I get something else, that means more surgery (BMX for sure at that point) and possibly more chemo which would be a nightmare. I just feel the downside to a recurrence is alot worse than the downside to a BMX with reconstruction. I don't know I'm still thinking about it and it's a very hard decision. I also wanna do rads-basically want to pull out all the weapons.

  • Suze35
    Suze35 Member Posts: 559
    edited July 2011

    Okay...Imitrex really helped, thank the flying spaghetting monster above!!!  Feeling much better today, just a lingering headache.  Of course, I stopped Xeloda yesterday, so that could also be helping.  If it is the Xeloda, my doctor said we'd find a way to deal/control it.

    katfin - I think you really have to assess your level of comfort.  Mammogram proved useless for me due to dense breasts, and I had so much disease so soon after a clear mammo, I just couldn't fathom worrying about it down the road.  I chose the BMX.  I also wanted to be "even."  I haven't had reconstruction - I will do that in a year or so if I stay clear of cancer - and I'm very comfortable with my choice.  BUT, lumpectomy is a perfectly valid option, and just as effective.  So you really have to reach within and decide what you are comfortable with.  If you want a second opinion on surgery, I had mine done at MGH with Dr. Michelle Gadd - she isn't very touchy feely, but she is one of the top breast surgeons in the country, and specializes in node removal.  In fact, she helped pioneer the SNB.  Everyone who sees my scars comments how wonderful they are, I had great ROM very soon after my surgery, and my LE is very mild.  Skill of your surgeon is important for these things!

    Kymn - moose!!  I live across from the NH border, so hunting moose is pretty common.  I've seen one or two, but not many.  I love fresh game - elk and deer when cooked right is just so yummy.  My friend's DH has a game dressing business, so I always get some each year.  YUM!  I know what you mean about hitting one - I hit a small deer on the highway, about the size of a large dog.  I just plowed into it at 70mph.  Obliterated the poor thing.  But man, the damage to my car!!

    roxessence - welcome to the club NO ONE wants to join!!  I agree with Lovelyeface, your health will come in handy.  I was extremely healthy prior to this (younger than you at 41), and had very little in the way of compliations from chemo, surgery and rads.  I healed well and quickly.  I also think it can help our immune system fight the cancer, as it doesn't have to focus on other things.

    Lovelyface - I'm not sure about rads causing what was found - but I would think YES!  Rads changes the tissue in your breast from what I can gather, toughens it up a bit.  Which is why some people notice their radiated side is "perkier" than the other side, more leathery.  I also know that changes from rads can show up in imaging for months after you are done.  Has your doctor told you it is anything to worry about?  I am VERY happy to hear the MRI is clean, now go get your clean PET scan and BREATH!!!

    Painting - I may be the one you are thinking of when you said Boston and loves MO, but I actually have my MO in southern NH.  I consulted at MGH and would have been fine with the MO I met there, but I just adore mine.  She is so responsive and caring, and open to complementary methods.  She really works hard to help me feel my best, and is willing to consult with other doctors - i.e. she called and talked with a neurologist about my migraine to make sure I got the best medicine.  I'm so sorry you were in the hospital, but I am very glad you went.  It can be scary when our WBCs get so low...reducing chemo dose seems to be very common, I hope all goes well with you next round.

    kyroheal - OMG, you are way too young for this S&*^%!!!  So not fair, my heart breaks Cry.  Your rationale for BMX was similar to mine, I'm glad you were able to make a decision you are comfortable with.

    ~~~

    Hot as hades here in the NE again!  My water bill is going to suck!  I'm only watering my front yard, who cares about the back, lol, and I have to water every stinking day.  Plus my garden, which isn't liking this heat too much except for the 'maters.  And the june bugs - ugh!!  My poor roses!!  I don't use chemicals, and have those bags hanging all around my yard, lol.  Hope everyone stays cool and has a great day.  If you can't tell, I feel much better Laughing.

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited July 2011

    Kyroheal:  IMO:  If the dr's aren't suggesting a high chance of recurrence in your other breast, then to me it's kind of like cutting off a good arm when it isn't diseased.  My mamo on my right breast has always been good and since I have changed my diet and added certain supplements I also no longer have very dense breasts.  My recent mamo was crystal clear and NED.  This is a huge improvement from my mamo in 2009 when TNBC was discovered in my left breast.  Although I am older then you, for me I wanted to hold on to as much of myself as I could.  Also, I had zero node involvement and since I did an MX I didn't need rads.  Doing rads unnecessarily can hurt your reconstruction options and you should really consider this, too.  I got 3 opinions from 3 different hospitals/dr's and was better able to make my decisions based on this.  Know that even if they remove both breasts BC can return elsewhere, especially with TN's.  So removing a healthy breast is no guarantee. 

  • Suze35
    Suze35 Member Posts: 559
    edited July 2011

    Quick vent...my in-laws are in town helping out this week...generally well-meaning people, but drive me a bit batty.

    If I have to hear, one more time, that "something good" will come out of my cancer diagnosis, I will frickin scream!!  There is NOTHING good about what I am going through, I did NOT need a reminder about how much my family means to me, and I have NOT found a sense of faith that I was missing (I always have had one, just not the SAME one as my in-laws)!!!

    Ugh, okay.  Back to regular programming.

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited July 2011

    Suze:  Big hugs coming your way!

  • Lynn18
    Lynn18 Member Posts: 284
    edited July 2011

    Suze35:  I've been told that also . . .I think that must be one of the worst things to tell a cancer patient.  I met with a support group facilitator, and when she suggested that, I decided not to go to that group.  I agree with you!  

  • Suze35
    Suze35 Member Posts: 559
    edited July 2011

    Thanks guys. I don't mean to step on toes - I know some people truly can find the good in this. Wish I was one! But I know you all understand :). Sometimes I want to pull my best Seth Meyers with them - "Really? I mean...reallly?". Lol.



    Lynn - man I would have run from that group too! I think I need a good, snarky, sarcastic group myself.

  • HeidiToo
    HeidiToo Member Posts: 965
    edited July 2011

    OK guys... here's another one of "Heidi's Diversions"... might need to warn some that is has a bug in it... a big one. But you guys wouldn't expect my postings to be normal or routine anyway...right?Laughing

    http://albums.phanfare.com/isolated/Z438SkkY/1/5203096

  • blondelawyer
    blondelawyer Member Posts: 104
    edited July 2011

    My brain MRI was clean and my breast MRI was okay--it looks like that while the tumor is still large, there is quite a bit of necrosis in the middle, so my oncologist thinks that the chemo is working.  The plan is to have one more round of chemo (AC) and then go on for surgery. I met with the surgeon on Thursday and have my last chemo on 7/25.  We won't know for sure if I will need additional chemo or radation post-surgery until after the pathology comes back from surgery.  

  • roxessence
    roxessence Member Posts: 2
    edited July 2011

    Heidi, I've only been around a little while here but already I smile as soon as your name comes up in a post! I Love your style, woman!!

    Suz, I Totally hear you about the club NO ONE wants to join - whew, ain't that the truth! You have my sympathy re: your in-laws too. Damn, ppl just don't get it sometimes. I've already told friends/family/work associates that I won't stand for platitudes/"poorYou" crap. The "everything happens for a reason" BS has been going around here like a plague lately - I'm sorry, some reasons are Just Plain Sucky!! Really!!!

    Painting, you were dx right before I was...already you're having such aggravation w/chemo? GAH - that's pretty scary s**t! I'm really sorry you're going thru so much pain right from the get-go - it's gotta be horribly discouraging for you, hon. Sure hope they figure out exactly what's giving you hell like this & make it Stop!

    Kyro - 27??? Seriously?? *shakes fist at cancer* You have Such a fantastic attitude, girl - I just Know you're going to whip this thing w/an ugly stick!

    We're enjoying real summer for a change hereabouts - after the nasty wet spring we had, I don't have a problem w/a little heat! Trying to maintain positive vibes is pretty tiring - we're heading to bed early! Have a sweet night, all. No SE's!!!

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 575
    edited July 2011

    roxessence, that's the spirit! Kicking ass and taking names. Feisty is good, I'm convinced.

    kyroheal, my thought process was very similar to yours, and my BS, onc, and RO were all on board with whatever I felt comfortable with. It truly is your decision, so research your options, run the pros and cons, and then go with your gut. The more I found out about BC, the more I realized I already knew what I wanted to do. So, I did.

    Heidi, neat! Even if they are ugly suckers, that photographer managed to capture beauty.

    ETA: How does something bigger come out of something smaller?

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 1,313
    edited July 2011

    Cicada's FREAK ME out!  Especially when they drop out of trees on your head..Yikes!

  • katfinn
    katfinn Member Posts: 15
    edited July 2011

    Thanks with the help of names of hospitals and oncs in Philly (to help me decide if I want to have a BMX as preventative measure for peace of mind).  It looks like I may go to Boston instead.  I called my onc's office and he suggested Dana-Farber's Dr. Eric Winer (guess they know each other) since he has studied Triple Negative.  I had just spoken with a women from the Boston area who sees Dr. Winer and highly recommended him.  She is 6 years out but had a recurrence (same breast and tumor and then in more lymph nodes) and while her cancer has metastasized, she is living with it and has been clean for 2 years.  She didn't come out and tell me what to do but I could tell that she thought I should have my breast removed.  It will be interesting to see if the fact that my tumor was small and that my sentinel node was negative and that there is no BC in my family will have him conclude that I should or shouldn't have the BMX.  I think he's dealt with a lot of TNBC.  I just want to make sure I'm doing all I can to prevent having to go through this again. 

    Luah - Thanks for posting that link that explains that a lumpectomy with chemo and rads really is equal to a mastectomy.  I have read that before but needed to see it again.  I do prefer this path (the one I was on before this little panic set in) and kind of hope that the 2nd opinion doc agrees with this in my case. 

    I'm sorry for those of you that feel yucky in this heat.  I just got my taste buds back and the nausea has stopped so other than feeling tired and having a few hot flashes, I'm pretty happy.  Those first two weeks after each chemo are not fun but I love week 3!  Hang in there...

  • Lynn18
    Lynn18 Member Posts: 284
    edited July 2011

    katfinn:  Eric Winer is a member of the advisory board for this site; I have seen his name a lot.  That would be great to see him, especially since he studies Triple Negative.

    Heidi:  Those are great pictures.  I have never seen a cicada that was green like that.  The ones I see are brown.  I thought he was quite pretty. 

  • Paintingmywaythru
    Paintingmywaythru Member Posts: 221
    edited July 2011

    Blonde Lawyer- great news!

    Suze 35...I am getting annoyed at someof my friends who think homeopathy will cure me. Geez...enough on the advice...OK if one has read up on Triple Negative....want to call it NNN...but when I was in the hospital one friend called and was sending spicy ginger chews to cure my mouth ulcers...OUCH!

    I think well intentioned is great but needs to come withcareful thought. And I'm probably sticking my foot in my mouth.

    I knew I was getting better when I got grumpy in the hospital yesterday when it took them 3 hours to get me a vanilla ensure shake and, first came nothing, then came chocolate ( no desire for chocolate) then my annoyance..then came the nutritionist with a cooler bag of 6.

    Beautiful day today.

  • HeidiToo
    HeidiToo Member Posts: 965
    edited July 2011

    To all- the Cicada WAS pretty, though I agree that the ones I see around the farm typically are not as bright and colorful. It was beautiful iridescent/dayglow green with gold flecks. I started taking pics with my digital SLR but quickly switched to my little point and shoot. And, just for you guys (Warning, violent image approaching)... I was bear-assed naked while I took them. Talk about bad timing. I had just showered in the cabana and was headed back to the house (yes, our place is private... wouldn't do that to my neighbor's eyes, as they'd need acid to erase the image) when hubby spotted it. He ran and got the camera and I put my clean butt in the grass and started snapping photos. Gross, right?

    You heard it here...

  • MBJ
    MBJ Member Posts: 3,671
    edited July 2011

    Lol, Heidi, as always you have brightened my day a little! 

    Blondlawyer:  Congratulations!!!!  That's the best news ever.

  • bak94
    bak94 Member Posts: 652
    edited July 2011

    That is too funny Heidi! Good for you, never miss a moment!

  • Suze35
    Suze35 Member Posts: 559
    edited July 2011

    Heidi - now THAT's living!!

  • Lynn18
    Lynn18 Member Posts: 284
    edited July 2011

    Heidi:  I guess the cicada got an eyeful?  lol

  • navymom
    navymom Member Posts: 842
    edited July 2011

    Heidi....you "crack" me up!  Yes, pun intended.

  • Wrenwood47
    Wrenwood47 Member Posts: 68
    edited July 2011

    Can you tell me about your calf burning? My calf not only burns but itches like crazy. Has a Dr dx this problem....I am scared of some other cancer. Thanks

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 1,313
    edited July 2011

    Good thing the baby cicada's pinchers weren't out and about...Heidi..I've been picturing you all day...still haven't decided if I want to share this with my DH or not..

    Too bad about our US women's soccer team..how disappointing.

    Welcome to our new ladies...as you can see we are kind of a diverse group...actually I don't think you need to go much further away from this thread to learn all you need to know about TN cancer and cicadas and being butt naked..ha ha.

  • rella40
    rella40 Member Posts: 38
    edited July 2011

    Heidi--that is too awesome.  I do NOT like bugs, but that is an amazing process.

  • FrancesC
    FrancesC Member Posts: 61
    edited July 2011

    Hi all, read in papers today that US is having a heatwave.  Stay cool and well hydrated...

  • cc4npg
    cc4npg Member Posts: 438
    edited July 2011

    Just dropping in to say "HI".  All is well here.  Enjoying the summer (but not the hot flashes), and getting WAY more of a tan than my onc wanted.  Never tanned this easy before and with as much land as I have, even with a riding mower, there's not much way to escape the sun.  I hate hats and never been one for using umbrella's.

    I saw the picture of the little frog a couple pages back.  I have been blessed with a bunch of baby frogs this year too!  I tried to get pictures, but they were literally too tiny when I first saw them.  Mine were smaller than a penny!  And a few tree frogs have decided to adopt my house.  Every night, on my windows and door... a couple of them come to collect bugs.  They're green in color, but for my area, they're juvenile brown tree frogs.  Cute as they can be!

    Anyway, doing well here.  You are all in my thoughts...

  • tnbcRuth
    tnbcRuth Member Posts: 338
    edited July 2011

    Wren- My torso itched like crazy for months and no doctor had a diagnosis...just had to wait it out and got some good rx cream to make it bearable.  I rarely have it anymore.

    Calves still burn, and again no diagnosis.  I'm taking supplements and VitB shots in addition to all my vitamins, etc., and they are helping.  The most helpful are the Adrenal Supplements. I am not a homeopathic kinda of person, I want the Real Drugs, but there is a noticeable difference in the burning.

  • Fighter_34
    Fighter_34 Member Posts: 496
    edited July 2011

    Heidi you are something else!! These pic are so clear. That SLR is GOOD. I thought my hubby was buttering me up for another gadget. I just may oblige this time.