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  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,932

    They have shown that abuse and trauma change kids brains. It would be wonderful if a cure could be found that would prevent depression. I worked in mental health and 75% of our clients were survivors of some sort of abuse.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Hi Hurricaine update : Intermittent bands, ground water keeps absorbing and evaporating. Wind speed approx. gust 75 mph(guess). Lots of tornadoes here and throughout florida.

    West coast, well it will take years. Storm surge as high as16.4 ft south florida. Google pictures of Miami. Looks like a modern Venice. Oddly, dogs are doing well, not hiding , pacing, or panting.

    Donnie mostly sleeping. Worked on his ac stuff outside until 11:30 am. We took a drive to get out. I95 ahd Hwy 50. 1/2 dozen motels packed and bbig truck rigs everywhere. No restaurants or food stores open except one gas station. Hmm idea. Anywhooses, that's my newly learned thing. I have never evacuated, Must take food and water for 4 days(?). Toughy, they've already been here maybe two days. We have till sometime mid-day tomorrow. Hard to tell the wind field is so huge and it's moving so slow.

    It's back up to Cat 4. b/c it's back sucking up water around the Keys. Not good. Reporting sucks. One report had it already up to Naples. So, all I can say is it's over there.

    A fella from Texas Tech Kishor Mehta, that was a wind man. I met him the same way I meet Dr Retsky. I called him when I was working on a tornado plan. His comment about Andrew was "We thought we knew something about wind, this will change everything"(pretty close). Irma will be the next teacher.

  • shepkitty
    shepkitty Member Posts: 878

    Mari - Those are not suspenders on the house silly goose......Those are some old belts FFH (Fart Face Husband) "outgrew" !!!

    I had seen that same theory about treating depression in a diferent article. Incredible.....so many poeple could be helped.

    Sassy - hoping you still have power.

    All is quiet here in SC . It has been predicted we will have heavy rains Monday with some coastal surge. Flooding will be main issue.

    Stuck here at home with Tropical Depression FF. The worse the weather outstde, the more he seeks out potentially dangerous projects to work on. The roof has been his latest obsession. Very possible the weekend could end on a positive note Happy

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 2,181

    HaHaHa Shepkitty, your husband is a Big man! I think he ought to apply for a patent, a vey creative way to keep the roof on

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Hurricane update Port St John. Massive power loss in florida, but we still have power. Oodles of tornadoes. The amount of tornadoes post recording of storm , I think will be a record. Oddly, for our area many are occurring at Port Canaveral and track northwest. Once we were identified in the group, I packed the safe room. Donnie's no help he thinks I'm over reacting

    Yes, he took the car out earlier and came home. ANDDDDDDDDD I said do I get to say I told you sooooooooooooo. He said yes. In the middle of and increasing wind speed he opens the garage door.. DUH. Now consider that the house is 1988. I'm on my third garage door to keep up with Miami-Dade standards which were created after Andrew.. --------The biggest failures of roofs coming off were the implosion/ lifting from the bottom of garage doors. I replaced the first in 1999(?). Then 2016. He goes and opens it. It wasn't at a critical point, but it wasn't a smart move.

    It's on land Cat2. Horrible for any land folks. The west coast and central florida are going to be devastated. Just seeing this now. But had it remained off shore the devastation would be far greater.

    Retrospectively, I would have preferred to see it track up the center of florida. That's mostly swamp land. Low density very low density population. Would have lost huuricane power very quickly.

    What I object to now is getting accurate information of what's occurring.

    This has been the worst. This will change everything.

    The house is solid, But of course a direct hit with a tornado, oh well. The problem with solidness we have to open the door to see what's going on, b/c inside you can't hear the stuff outside. Major wind as evidenced by the trees and shrubs. First time I ever had to force the front door shut and do a knee bend to do it (*25 years). That was the front door. The power is in a counterclockwise blow. So, depending on the position of the house you know where the power will be. The power of the blow is at the front of my house.

    Well, The beeping for the tornadoes has stopped. Their guessing 8-12 hours more for my county

    Then comes the walk around and the drive around.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Damn Hurricane report. , Irma did come central, is losing power majorly, BUT can still can create mischieve. . They talked about how much it decreased. I went to the doors --less push front an back, but still worrisome. But it's over. Maybe. But really it's over. Maybe. We have had hurricanes do crazy things that have never got notice We had one that sat over the top of us for three days and never had a name. It ended up being called the no name storm.

    Talk is about all that are out of power. Oddly, they are talking about calling about power outages. Hey, I haven't a cell phone. I have land line....But I have power.

    Unless Irma diverts right or left , it's over.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    It ended right over Disney. Still lots of wind.

    But what the next phase is the wake up and the walk around, in the am b/c the wind is still heavy. You walk around your house and see what kind of damage has been done.

    Next is the drive around to see what kind of damage has been done in the neighborhood. Then there is the drive to further places to see what their damage is. This occurs on the 3rd to 4th day. It's an odd an needed thing. A need to know how the whole region has done.

    Report on central florida Orlando is where the storm is dissipating 85 mph. The oranizine storm is disentigrating.(sic).


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Wells goes to show ya, hurricanes are unpredictable. But the most accurate model was the European model. There's a study. The mostly inaccurate is the US model that is based on a system. That system was old. They just recently upgraded. The folks within our system recommended not to buy the new system b/c the applied to old tracks. It showed the system was flawed. GUESS WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT DID? They bought the flawed system.

    So, in future hurricanes, Pay attention to the European model. What makes it more confusing is the European model is owned(?) by Britain. I thought that odd when I read it. But our negative weather can affect Britain

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 2,181

    Sas, thank you for all the updates. Not sure how it's ended because IRMA is on it's way to Tampa?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hurricane-irma-florid... Powerful storm floods streets, spawns apparent tornadoes, knocks out power to millions and snaps construction cranes in Miami


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Okay, I studied the spaghrtti models I had time an was interested, Plus kinda pissed/ WHY all these models? Who was the most accurate? What was the history?

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Mari , It's disappatted basically in Orlando. We still have storms. BUT it.s gone now . It's just a remnant. What you are looking at is hours old. Which has made me crazy about this storm is we had no realtime report area for info. We will have rains in Florida for the next day may be. BUT IRMA is dead, unless it arises again. Irma is dying It will take a few hours. BUT it is dead. It will not travel up to Georgia, It is Volder a Mort in his last dieing moments

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 4,243

    Thank you for the updates, my friends from the east side. The pictures of the flood and destructions were hard to look at. I am glad you still have power and you are smart to keep the land line. We should have kept ours.

    "GUESS WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT DID? They bought the flawed system." Hahaha. Ms Sas, were you at my work place recently?

    Forward, happy to hear you are enjoying life. Love the photo.

    Felines, hope your DH's relatives are safe.

    Mari, another interesting article! Thanks

    ShepK, I am afraid to read into your last sentence. WildT would think the same.

    MammaRay, hang in there. Hugs

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 4,243

    Sinus headache. Yuck! You can send the rain to the west side of the country to put out the wild fire andclean our dirty air here. Going to hit the sack. Finger crossed for minimal damage. Night night

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 2,181

    Just posted - everything you want to know about IRMA. So far


    https://www.accuweather.com/en/weather-news/hurric...



  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Mari, we still have a storm, but Irma is dead.


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Well dying fast,

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Mari, the news in realtime on this storm sucked. Channel 13 is central florida. Had/ has the best radar stuff. Irma is done as a hurricaine, but not done as a storm. Irma can create some havoc as it disapates, and she can recreate herself as many storms have. BUT She is falling apart like the Wiked Witch from the West. Hoping nothing revives her

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    this is Irma now

    http://www.mynews13.com/content/news/cfnews13/weather/radar.html.html

    what worries me is she could grab on to land or ocean.

    BUT what is grand is she is gone from us

  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,145

    Glad to know you are doing ok Sas and fingres crossed for the garage door not too much damaged.


    Thanks loverly. DH spent a good bit of the night in communication with his brother. My BIL and his kids had done all the prep and were barricaded in the sitting room. Does anyone know why part of the instructions is to have your outdoor shoes on? (Great house, modern build to all the best specs, but tornados chew up even great houses.) They had no power but still had wifi(?) internet so they were able to talk on the magic jack internet phone. We have a magic jack here in our house in Ireland so most of our US calls are via that anyway. SIL was at work as she is in Miami Police. Must have been hard having to be separate from her family during the hurricane but that is the job. Apparently ALL the police dept was in but no catering staff so they all got pretty hungry during the night as naturally all the local food businesses were shuttered. However compared to what might have been, that was a minor complaint. DH's niece and hubby made it to her Mom's in Deland (she's the daughter of DH's other brother). She lives in Tampa, which got the news to evac fairly late as Irma changed course. As she is heavily pregnant she had to grab baby stuff etc as part of the evac! One day it will make a great story to tell her daughter but I doubt it was much fun in real life. Her in laws stayed in Tampatoo, ended up having to go to shelter. They have a business there and only a couple of blocks from the Bay so that may have be taking a pounding. Niece's house is in same neighbourhood. We heard the FL governor on Irish radio saying people's property and belongings can be replaced but people's lives cannot, so true.

    Edited for multiple tyopos, ...tyops,... typos

    Loopy

  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,932

    Feline, If you had to leave your house for any reason, you'd really want outdoor shoes. Think of all the stuff blowing around.

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 2,181

    Sas I agree with you on the news - it was confusing but then I don't know the area. I hate to see destruction, the thought of all the rebuilding and those poor tired people that have to deal with this. Then your lights never went out?

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    OOPs I posted at 2-3 pm today and it's not here. I did loose internet connection.

    My neighbor and I agree this was the worst

    Steve's back in Tampa. Tampa's good

    House walk around minor damage

    Community local drive around : good trees and fences.. Yard debri

    Odd, since we agree this was the worst, damages are way less than others

    Water: major portion of the region is without water---A main break. We got water back

    Electric. My side of the street has electricity, the other side doesn't. One neighbor is here and the other neighbor is using our generator and I gave them ice. A friend is coming tomorrow, she's been without power since last night. She wouldn't come tonight.

    Haven't turned the news on today, not once. May not turn it on ever again.

    Spent all waking hours checking in on friends and neighbors. 5-6 hours outside. It was a gorgeous sunny , blue sky day with a balmy breeze and cooler than usual. Great Day

    There was a rainbow, that at our angle looks like it's ending on my house. :)

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Feline glad your family did okay. I'm glad they went to Deland. Hope they stay there a few days. We were taking gas to someone today, on I 95 which is the road they'd start out on to go back home. Traffic going south is very heavy, but moving well. Gas stations are still not resupplied. Some places were very long line ups when they did have gas. No restaurant or fast food.

  • lookforward
    lookforward Member Posts: 372

    Sas good to hear that you came through okay and your home has minor damage.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Mari, I agree about all that those that have serious trouble. their exhaustion i can fathom, but ours here is over. Kinda. I didn't do anything , but yak and visit. Theirs will go on for an indeterminate amount of time. Crazy computer activity again. Oh well. it'll just have to be.

    Waving to everyone :)

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Member Posts: 8,950

    Sas. So glad you are ok and still has a place to stay.

    Hootie hoo


  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,757

    Heard from our friends and relatives in Florida. They are all okay and no damage to their property

  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,145

    ThumbsUp

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 2,181

    Calling all computer whizzes! How does it work that when I finally really really need my calendar, Windows hides my data less the most recent three months?? Not fair! I've looked high and low, where did it go? I was going to create a long story for my PCP, she lucked out.

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Member Posts: 8,950

    Sas. Didn't see your last post til now. So so happy you are ok and your ds also

    Radio said over 12 MILLION people without electricity in FL not even counting TX. Wow can't believe it's Millions.

    Hootie hoo