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  • Bluebird-DE
    Bluebird-DE Member Posts: 1,233

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    omg - is that what that face is, Loveroflife -- I always called it his alpha face. Probably same thing.

    BearBear did not like the camera, when we first adopted him he looked like this. But one he realized I was not going to really shoot him, he was the ham.

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    and Jeronimo looked like this - he was a skunk. Which may have been what your baby was chasing tonight.

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  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,145

    Jeronimo Heart

  • fallprincess
    fallprincess Member Posts: 4

    Loveroflife, your dog's look is hilarious! Not a happy camper, haha.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Spookie just announced great news on this thread. Congrats are in order YAY

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/31/topics/755825?page=160#post_5129477


  • Bluebird-DE
    Bluebird-DE Member Posts: 1,233

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    Hubby asks, "Can I have your bean?"

    "No," said Jeronimo.

    When we had pet skunks they were so very spoiled.

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    all Jeronimo - otherwise known as Baby.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Thrifted today. nice finds. 10 inch saute Tramontina tri--ply clad.---stainless with inner core of copper.---New by weight and outer look it was a good pan. Then the "tri-ply" told me it has an inner core of copper. First search says it's a good brand. Set goes for 349$ First cleaning looking good. Next cleaning will be done by Donnie. Once found a Capholon stock pot for 18-19$. Almost chocked. Retail 249$.

    Did I sy DS Stephen is NOW asking me to find stuff for him. This is the young man that used to be irritated by my thrifting. He said at Christmas that he has been singing my praises for awhile. I was stunned and happy.

    NOW he asking me to find stuff that his friends want. How cool is that????

    We have finally intersected on something.

    Oh two doc visits, ladida who cares what they are about. WNL

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Loverly, Yes, I still look like the picture. Where is the picture of Shep and I cuddling and you doing the selfie?

    TaRen Hi welcome here, we are here lot's any time of day or night. we would really like you to stay, new energy is always lovely.

    Thank you Blue for all the pictures. I was wondering about Danny Boy's speckled feet.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    OH OH OH, I ordered Amora coffee online, got a charge of 68$ for 8 0z . Let you know out come

  • TaRenee
    TaRenee Member Posts: 406

    tonight is ... boring. Internet, cable and phone out due to snow/accident. Glad to have power. Read 2 books and am going to try to get some sleep now. I maybe got 3 hours last night. The snow day off was a blessing cause I know I would have been dragging at work! Don’t want to kill my data plan but wanted to say Hi

  • jaymeb
    jaymeb Member Posts: 241
    Hi Ladies

    Wow, what a thread!!! I heard this thread is very busy. I thought I was the only one who stays up late, and I mean until 2-3 in the morning every night!!! I also sleep half the day, as I'm on leave from work. I'm only typing early now, because we have snow, and can't get out. Ugggg, I'm in the south, so snow here is a big deal. The young people love it, you would think it's a carnival for them!!! Will be inside for days. Well, a little about my story. I was diagnosed with breast cancer in February 2017. Didn't have a mammogram for 8 years. I'm almost 49. Yes, I know it was stupid, and I had risk factors, with extremely dense breasts. I had a unilateral mascectomy, with 13 lymph nodes taken out. One was positive. I had a palpable lump seven centimeters, but only 1.3 cm was cancerous. Last year, I noticed my left nipple was inverted, but ignored it. Well, a month later, it was still in inverted, and I knew something was not right. Well, I started googling about bc, and saw a symptom could be a sudden retracted nipple. I freaked, and demanded a mammogram the next day. I was there for 3 hours. Took many pics, had ultrasound, and I could tell the radiologist was concerned. A biopsy was scheduled the next day, waited a week, and it was benign. My breast surgeon was not convinced, and neither was I. My intuition was I had cancer. Thank god the BS did another biopsy, and another week of waiting, it did come back malignant, as we thought. Of course my life was changed forever. It took hours before it sank in, and just cried. As we know, the beginning is always scary, because of so many unknowns. I had some testing, including a CT scan. That one scared me the most. I was afraid it might have spread, however, it came back negative. After my pathology report came back, I'm Stage 2a, and I qualified for the onco geonomic testing. Never heard of it. I was sure I would need chemo. Well, my score came back at 14, so my oncologist said no chemo. It would have only helped by 1or 2 percent. I did not get a second opinion, and I still worry about that lymph node. I hope this was the right decision, but now, for sure, it would be too late. I got a second opinion on radiation, and I had to do it. Did fine on it. So, my best friend for ten years is tamoxifen. When I reach menopause, I'll be switched to another hormone therapy. Usually, before I join a forum, I read all posts, but this one dates back to 2011, and now, over 1450 posts. Sorry to be so lengthy, but I would like to join, if that's ok. I'm going to read some previous posts, to see what you all talk about.
  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,931

    Welcome Jaymeb! Love to have new people join us. I'm sure snow stops everything there just like it does in Seattle. Lots of fun when I was a kid.

  • jaymeb
    jaymeb Member Posts: 241
    Thanks Wren44

    I've been skimming through these threads. I love that we can talk about whatever we want. I wasn't' kidding when I say I go to bed in the wee hours. It's 3:18 am, and still wide awake. My 15 year old daughter, well during school goes to bed around 10-11pm. She's a morning person, never have to get her up, she gets me up in the mornings when I take her to school!!!! Usually, it's the parent who gets the child up. I've usually only been asleep for 4-5 hours when she gets me up. I take her to school in my night gown with a robe on, since I only have to drop her off. Then, I can't wait to get back into bed and sleep four more hours, although it's hard to since I've been up. I take ambien every night, usually around 12-1:00 am. There's nights I'm asleep in 30 min, sometimes it can take 2 hours. Been on it for many years. I don't know how I'm going to get back on a schedule when I return to work. Still about 4 months, as I'm having reconstruction in March. Does anyone take sleep aids? Also do any of you go to work with little sleep?
  • TaRenee
    TaRenee Member Posts: 406

    Jaymeb I don’t take a sleep aid but I did just get put on Effexor (anti-depressant) and that is supposed to help with SE and sleep. But I’ve only been on it 2 weeks and I haven’t seen much of a change.

    I’m in NC as well. We got almost 10” here so we are completely shut down. I teach school and have been back at work since mid October. I don’t get a lot of sleep but I do try to rest a lot. I stay tired but I’m managing.


  • TaRenee
    TaRenee Member Posts: 406

    imageDo I at least look cute? For the record, I’m so excited for snow! AND I can’t see any grass anywhere!!!

  • celiac
    celiac Member Posts: 1,260

    Welcome, Jaymeb. Yes, you do look awfully cute, TaRenee and also warm! Less than 20 degrees here in greater Cincinnati, OH when I left for the office this AM. Now a whopping 26 degrees - at least it's Sunny!

  • Bluebird-DE
    Bluebird-DE Member Posts: 1,233

    Have been hibernating for five days now, gone nowhere. Slick snow first of week.

    Welcome, Jaymeb. You are talkative like me, cool! Melatonin is a big one for many people, it is also suppose to be good for putting off breast cancer. I had flipped hours due to a worsening condition and cough, have righted them lately for most part. If I am up by noon it is now a late morning. Rest is really important when healing and sleeping in the dark hours is up there with prompting the night hormones to do their thing to help get us weller and stronger.

    sooooooooo, been home since Saturday afternoon....... and Hubby only leaves the property to drive the mice he live-catches two miles away to release in front of our friend's house. Seriously. Last night I told him, just knock on her door and ask her if it can live there until Spring, she will keep it. I cannot stand for mice to get in the house. I found EVIDENCE yesterday and told Hubby to set the traps right and do it now. So he did, he lets the bait get old. But OMG I cannot handle catching mice then having to put them outside where the cold will kill them or the feral cats or hawks will get them. They are so secure in our little world, our house, all the food they could want, fabric for nests. Then like Peter Rabbit's papa they get caught. At least we don't put them in stew or anything, but out they go. Hubby is heartless about it but one of us has to be. In our other house there was a pole barn. I created a mouse castle in the back w bedding, food and water and then when I would live-trap a mouse in the house I would take it to the mouse castle and settle it in. People laughed, I know you are too, but it was the only way I could live with myself. My DBIL said the mice would beat me back in the house, he saw one run by him one day when I just put it in the castle. Then Hubby realized what I was doing so he started letting them loose at a farm. When he was at work I would be in charge and since my mouse castle was condemned, I made one in the front yard under an old treefort. So I would take new capturees there. Better than "his" barn. Eventually, we found the one hole they were getting through and steel wooled it, no more mice there again. Here, never had a mouse until DD lived on sun porch and had food out there when we told her not to do it, it is attached to the house and that doorway was a pretty big hole inviting them in because she would leave the door open between sometimes. Now mice and probably with spawn of I don't know how many. Perhaps I should ship them to her? But they would have to go through customs. Try explaining that?

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 1,667

    Bluebird, I love your writing. Had me laughing while I was reading. Ok, I'm cruel and heartless. I guess it's city life but I use spring traps or glue traps. One reason I feed feral cats is that it has cut down the mice getting in tremendously. Must say, one time I had a spring trap set by my stove. Got up one morning and it was gone. Thought hubby had ditched the trap with our visitor in it. Nope. I hunted for that trap. Something made me take the drawer out of the stove. Yup, there was the trap back against the wall with a little something on it. I think it was its foot/paw. I had visions of it running around with a limp. I live in a row house and the mice are known to go from house to house. Told my neighbor two doors down if she saw a mouse with a limp it came from us. She feeds the feral cats as well. Loved it when we had cats but they have since passed and I found out that I was allergic to them. Did the shots as I didn't have the heart to re-home them. Oh wait, I do have a heart, just not for mice.

  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,753

    Not doing much today.


  • Bluebird-DE
    Bluebird-DE Member Posts: 1,233

    Kathinco - Once in a river cottage 38 yrs ago we had a river rat that took the rat !!! trap which are bigger and the entire box of poison into the basement and ate it, left it's leg? I don't know but it still got out and left, never to be seen again. Hubby is heartless but once I saw that thing in our house - we just bought it and had not moved in yet - I wasn't sleeping in there for nothing.

    Damn dog.

    Shepkitty - today the birds ran out of feed for 5 hours. We brought a bag home. I was at desk and Hubby was sitting here, planning to feed them laterrrrr. I looked out and the birds were hopping around and pecking in the frozen dog poop. Apparently there is still some inside him. Anyway, your idea is not so far fetched. Hubby instead went out and filled the feeders and baskets. Not the tables.

  • shepkitty
    shepkitty Member Posts: 878

    Miss Blue ~

    See? An added bonus to filling the dog and not the feeder. Less doggie poo to pick up - those little feathered freeloaders should be doing something to earn their keep! You never would have to worry about tumbling in the 20 ft snow again either.

    Loverly,

    Remember poor Chevy almost freezing her "everything" when she got stuck in that snow that was over her head...........feeding the dang birds?

    Chevy ~ You out there? Tell 'em!

    I do not understand why people who don't have cats feed birds? Hummingbirds, yes. They are so dainty yet fierce and eat up mosquitos - all while looking like beautiful winged jewels. That cuss. I adore them! Otherwise, ick. Birds make way too much noise in the morning and defecate all over your nice patio furniture and your mother. So unpleasant. The FFH likes the dang things and takes the bird feeders up when he sees them in the yard. Something about hanging them too low......🙄 The Hummers have feeders up high 'cuz they deserve 'em.

    Howdy Carolina Girls! About time some of y'all showed up here - It's so lonely being the only true Southern Lady on the thread. (I can hear those snickers and I KNOW who you are. So HUSH!)

    Gotta go prep for roadtrip to get this -

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    Sure wish I could go back in time for my Baby Marti 😢

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    We were visiting her - only 5 weeks old and too young to come home yet.

    Still have a last chance for a veto if the breeder/parents/pups aren't up to my professional standards. FFH at least understands that my knowledge exceeds him in this. Just wish he would have asked before paying for the darned thing.

    Eeyore - Corgis are so silly! Odd fact. You love Huskies, which are considered a Spitz. Corgi's are herding dogs, but considered to also be a Spitz. I don't know why? Gotta read more.

    M0mmy - I would so love a Sheltie! Soft, cuddly and oh so smart!

    I ratted FFH out to my Neuro Onc Thursday and told him about the darn Bloodhound pup. His eyes lit up "Oooh! They are such cute puppies! Bring me some pictures!" Oh, the unexpected betrayal........ Mens.

    Kath - love hearing about your porch kitty colony. They are good to keep the rodents out of your house - how about the feathered things?

    Junie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Stay warm Sassy! 65 degrees? Gah! Spend the extra 10 bucks a month to be comfortable. You don't want to get pneumonia sitting in your own living room!

    Wenchie is back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Now we need Sensi and Peppy and all our other busy sisters to at least peek in and say "hi"

    Love to all 💕


  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 4,243

    Hey! What a coincidence. I was going to post the pictures Ms. Sas was asking for. Internet near the school is very slow. But first....WELCOME to the new ladies.

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  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 4,243

    Photos are not loading. Kids are almost out. I think they slow down the internet on purpose around here. Will have to try later when I get home.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    OH Hello, hibernating. This is the fourth year of increasing cold in Florida. I only can say this b/c when the kids chose last year to have an outdoor wedding on Feb 11th. I quietly said don't you remember the last two years. Well last winter was worse than the previous two. Now this is worse than the previous three. So, new normal will take adjusting to. Go figure, I'm setting the thermostat at 65 and wearing layers of clothes. My twin in Michigan setting her temp at 78.

    Blue, there is a condition of older dogs of pooping and they don't know it. It started a few months ago with Shats. Threw some keywords into the computer and there it was....Keywords Incontinence in old dogs and sleeping. I'll leave the details out. Never ever heard anyone talk of such a thing. It was a shock since I've been around dogs my entire life and knew mostly dog people. You would think something like that would drop(pun) in conversation. Now hasn't been a problem for several months. ?????

    "Shepkitty's birdfeeding solution: " Miss Blue, why what an amazing time saver you have discovred! No more slogging about in inclement weather to fill the bird feeders.... just fill the dog and let him loose!" Masterful!


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    TaReney Sleeping is such an issue Duh that's why this thread got started. My most recent thing of trying to manage it is likely outside the normal, as I now have to use CPAP. My doc says cpapers, most generally, have to use a sleeper(medication). SOOOOO, this years routine is Ativan 2mg and Melatonin 10mg at 10pm therabouts. But sometimes I get distracted and forget till later.

    Jayweb welcome here come often SOOOOOOOOooo, glad you and your doc were proactive. YAY. Intuition has save me several times. My Twin was dx'd at 46. She skipped a year on Mammo's. She felt guilt about it. BUT the machines are fallible. Whose to say that had you had a mammo the year before that it would have shown up. Don't guilt yourself on it.

    I was going for a prophylactic bilateral. Clean mammo in August. December MRI positive. 4 month delay was b/c there was no imperative b/c it was clean in August. I simply thought oops, I have approval getter done before January and new deductibles. Then bingo the signet ring in the MRI was bright and clear.

    The more you are around BCO you will see that there is some rhyme and some reason, but you may also conclude there is NO rhyme or reason. At this point in history we don't know enough. A hundred years from now will be different.

    For now just go with the flow, be proactive, and find the joy wherever you can.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Jaymeb, just saw your post about ambien and when you take it. I'm not a fan of Ambien. But a real key to any sleeper is to take it between 1-1/2 hours before you wish to sleep. Think about moving up the pill time to 11:00pm for one-two weeks. See what happens. Then try 10:00pm for two weeks.

    I can do the 10pm routine for a few days, get great sleep, then I have all this energy and destroy it by staying up all night. BUT then I take a bed day by napping on and off. Then try to do better with the close to ten routine of taking the pill. SLEEP OH GLORIOUS SLEEP.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Ta Re---Effexor taking it for depression or hotflashes?. LOve the pants. THey can light the way.

    Blue, you should add the mouse castle story to your blog. SO funny, We had a similar problem with squirrels. I used to feed the birds. But once when a bunch(afew) broke through the screening and it was like the Hitchcock Birds attack.. We stopped feeding the birds and relocated the squirrels. Bummer.

    Shep what a beautiful picture with Marti Awwww

  • junieb
    junieb Member Posts: 945

    Sas & Shep - My phone has finally bitten the dust. It is nearly 4 years old and has 2 cracks in the screen from me dropping it. I am concerned that I'll need it to call for help or something. Gotta do my taxes and maybe I can get a new one. But rest assured that I am not ignoring you.

    Last Sunday we had a bit of an anomaly weather wise here. It was sunny, 64 degrees and dry. I had gone to church in the morning and had planned on taking a nap once I got home, but the sun was just too inviting. So instead of the nap, I went out and raked, swept and weeded. I've been having excruciating pain in my lower spine & pelvis. I went to the chiropractor and had a massage, but they only helped minimally. I've been wearing my back brace and using pain meds., but I could barely get cleaned up & dressed this morning. Will I ever learn?

    Only 9 more days until Kirby comes home from the trainer. She texted me early in the week saying that they had had a great session and that Kirby was doing well. I hope he'll be ready for his CGC certification test soon. I've been catching flack from a couple local businesses and the local transit company saying that they don't believe he is a service dog in training. Hmph!

    Anyway, I am tired, so I will wave HI to everyone and wish you all a good restful nights sleep.


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  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 1,667

    Trying again. Went to submit my message and I got logged out instead.

    Shoe, must say bloodhound puppy gets an awwww, BUT not so much when they get older. Do you have to give your reason for turning down the pup? I’m thinking that the color of the kennel is wrong, LOL. Love the picture of you and Marti. The look she is giving you says it all. You can see the special bond the two of you had.

    The female of the three I feed is the huntress. Have seen her get a mouse and a bird (grackle). She’s a stealthy little thing. The male she hangs with took the mouse away from her. Leaving her with the little leftovers he left for her. You could tell the next day that the mouse didn’t agree with her. When she caught the bird, he tried getting from her but she got first dibs on it. This year saw a lot of small branches and leaves on the ground near one of the trees. Feathers on the ground and porch. My neighbor (she feeds about five ferals different from mine) two doors down saw her going up the tree for the birds a few times. DC has a TNR clinic and they have each had a visit to it. Several people in the area are active at trapping them and arranging for their operation.

    Junie, can you get a “service dog in training” vest for Kirby? Worth a try if it saves you from being hassled. I know some business don’t want to acknowledge the dogs that are in trading though

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 4,243

    Ok, here are the photos:

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    Shep and Ms. Sas hogging the blanket and Junie is on the right looking at half naked men on her phone. Me...somebody has to be the photographer.

    And the lame selfie....sorry Junie I cut off your head to fit my big head. A selfie stick would have been good.

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  • jwoo
    jwoo Member Posts: 931

    hope everyone is staying bundled up and warm


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