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  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 4,243

    Went to the store to get almond butter for DD and ended up with these.:

    imageI couldn't help myself. Flowers make me happyNerdy When DH saw them, he asked "You don't have enough orchids?" Silly man! The answer is obvious. I have to wait until March for my other ones to bloom. Instant gratification for $5.99 each.....much better than a bouquet of roses I told DH to stop buying for me a long time ago. So Jaymeb, take Ms. Sas' advise; be proactive, don't blame yourself, go with the flow, and do what makes you happy.

    Shep, you is mean! I like the birds singing in my backyard . Better than constant barking from neighbors' dogs when I am trying to sleep. Yeah, I remember the time when Ms. Chevy fell in the snow and was stuck there for awhile. Thank God it was fluffy snow and not ice. Oh how I miss MamaJ.

    Kath, I am heartless also when it comes to rats/mice. Ok ok Shep, I know I have double standards and bias.

    Blue, you have a heart of gold. I don't think you would harm a mosquito, would you?Told my DD about your pet skunks. She was amazed and wondered if you ever got sprayed.

    Tarenee, you don't have to worry about people not finding you with that pants. Hah!

    Eek! It's way pass my bedtime. Night to all.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 4,243

    Oh hi Jwoo! You are up late! Hope sleep fairy comes soon for you. Mine is tapping her foot and pointing at the clock. Good night!!

  • TaRenee
    TaRenee Member Posts: 406

    Morning everyone. I am seeing the thaw of the snow now. Nothing left in my front yard after yesterday. Kind of sad actually. It was so pretty.

    I’m on Effexor for both sleep and hot flashes. Tho I haven’t seen much of a change in either yet. I’m giving it a chance but I don’t know that it works for me.

    This is my entertainment with the snow melting. He loves that red ball. imageimage

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 4,243

    Tarenee, pretty feline!

    Junie, one more week and you will be reunited with your baby. Yay!

    Happy Saturday, everyone. Hope this video causes you to laugh out loud as it did with me. I would love to go to their concert.



  • Bluebird-DE
    Bluebird-DE Member Posts: 1,233

    Took so long reading to catch up - only a few min to type.

    JWoo - oh nooo when coats were coats ?

    Loveroflife - I actually do think twice before smacking a mosquito and ticks too. But in the end I am evil and kill them. Everything else gets a fair shake and new place to live. Though there was one spider, it was in my skunk's den when I pulled out her blacket, a massive wolf spider, about a foot long. I threw the blanket over it and I had on shoes so I jumped up and down on the blanket / spider. I still feel bad. But the last wolf spider I tried to relocate that was that size blew on the wind back at my face and stopped my heart, another story but you have to believe me, Hubby is a VERY VERY BAD MAN. Put the pile of smooshed spider in a blanket into an old garden cooler I used just for sitting on because well blech! and rolled it out to the yard. Next morn Hubby came home from work and I told him, he opened the cooler and the spider was still alive! So he took it to the woods and let it go, far from home which made up for his other wolf spider debacle. This skunkette was Blossom, otherwise called Honey Bunny because she bounced most of the time.

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    The spider was in MY den said Blossom, but I was going to eat it later.

    Those orchids are so beautiful I wouldn't want roses either.

    Kathindc - that reminded me to two cats we had, male and female brother and sister. We fed them seafood scraps or something delicious on a newspaper in the bathroom. The female was less than half his size. She decided he was not getting more than a mouthful and without stopping eating she used one paw and clenched his head to the floor, all nails impaling him, she did not let him up either. When he struggled she growled and he quit. We rescued him though.

    Junie - we are expecting 58 degrees her at tip of Lake Michigan during this coming week, in January!

    Tas - I know what you are talking about. My BearBear had a few stokes at the end and he emptied his bladder a few times in the house whereas he never had, he just couldn't hold it any more. But the actual poop incontinence could be a problem for Danny Boy. He had a problem in leaving a straggler a few months ago, it was at the end of hall after he stood up. I thought it had been stuck to his fur maybe. But I have seen another one just last night. So now I wonder if he is having incontinence. At least the poo is firm with no smell. The ones in his yard are perfect so doesn't seem to be a blockage or too dry. We will keep a watch on him. Oil given would only make him arf it up in the night, he and oil do not mix at all. Thanks for the heads up. I will watch him.

    Tas - I will work on the and add it to my blog of stories. I have a lot of them to do. Out of all the stuff or plans and goals that were in my hutch drawers and file drawers, I kept stories to write and books to finish. The rest is all tossed. Imagine that, a lifetime of plans and when it comes down to what is most important if you have six months, it is never a question, is it. So the mouse castle. The wolf spider stories. Some real doozy Hubby stories, like the rock salt for one.

    Here is a Blossom story for anyone up after hours and no one to chat with. https://skunkiedelight.wordpress.com/2008/12/15/do... Spoiled rotten and not by me.

    Sorry but I tried to log in to that blog and cannot figure out how. Chemo brain again. I just wanted to unlink some links but now cannot - so don't use them, they are old anyway. I will get these cleaned up soon.


  • jaymeb
    jaymeb Member Posts: 241
    Ladies

    Normally, before I start on a thread, I read from the first to the last posts. For example, I read all the Stage 2 sisters club before I started responding. That tread started in 2012, I think, with 125 posts, so far, and still active. It took me a month to go through it. It was my way of getting to know the ladies on the forum, reading what they had to say before I joined. I'm not sure if this sounds crazy(well I am crazy) lol, but I could tell what type of personalities they have, and how everyone had different opinions. Everyone is welcoming, and great support.

    Well, then I got on the pros and cons of tamoxifen, middle age 40-60ish. That was easy to read, since it was recently started. On that one too.

    Now, I'm still lurking in the singles after mascectomy forum, that one has 245 pages. I started reading that one several weeks ago, and I'm at the end of the year 2014. It will take me another month to finish. These forums are like reading a book. One lady in that thread said this is a very busy thread, and hard to keep up.

    Well, I was going to start at the beginning until I saw there's 1454 pages!!!! I would never finish. I've just read a few posts. This thread is fun, and like a casino in Vegas😀😀😀. What's so funny is that the women who start these forums don't stay on long. Well, some more than others.

    Bluebird-DE, that's so funny that you realized in an instant I talk a lot. Many people, especially the ones closest to me call me the energizer bunny of conversation. I barely take a breath lol. You have a great personality, and so full of life. Where did you get the name you're using? What does it mean?

    Ladies, I also love to see pics. Keep on a sending. I see so many of pets and animals. I'm a single mom with a 15 year old, and we love cats and dogs. Well, my daughter loves all animals, and very much an animal activist. We have two cats, and if it were up to her, we would have many more animals. Two cats, and hamsters are enough in this apartment!!!! I told her when she gets on her own, she can have a farm if she wants. The way it works with the cats, is she plays with them, I clean the mess, and feed them🙄🙄🙄. I just found out recently there's a pet forum. Does anyone post on that? Sorry about my long winded posts, love to talk.
  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,931

    Cats Cats Cats is a popular forum with lots of photos of adorable cats. I think there's a different forum for dogs. We'd love to see your cats over there.

  • jaymeb
    jaymeb Member Posts: 241
    TaRenee

    I just saw your snow pic. Love it. If you don't mind me asking, where in NC are you? If you don't feel comfortable answering test question, I certainly understand. Well, as it shows, I'm in High Point near Greensboro. I was stuck for three days. Well, I could have gotten out, but I refuse to drive in snow. When I was married, my ex drove like it was nothing. The tempatures are climbing, and the snow is melting. I'm sooo glad. I'm a spring/summer girl. I've been ready since November for sping💐💐💐🌺🌺🌺. You said you're on Effexor, does it help at all? My ambien works, but I never sleep a full 8 hours like it's supposed to. My doc wants me to try to wean off them. They are addictive. I just can't imagine taking something less powerful. Sighhh.
  • jaymeb
    jaymeb Member Posts: 241
    Hi Wren44

    Just saw your post. Thank you. So there is one for just cats. Great. I will check it out. You're going to think I'm stupid, but I don't know how to post a pic on a thread. Reece, my daughter, and I have tons of cute pics of our cats. I'm sure it's easy, but I'm horrible with technology. I bet Reece will know how.😂😂😂. Thanks.
  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 1,667

    Hi Jaymeb! Welcome. It's not you. A lot of ladies need help the first time. It took me a while to get the hang of it. Just above the reply box you will see an icon of a box with mountains in it (eighth one over). It says Insert Image. Click on that and a new box comes up that says insert image. Click on choose file. Go to the picture you want to post and click on that. It will highlight and at the bottom Choose will highlight as well. Click that. It can take a bit to post. To resize, click the picture and put the cursor on the bottom right corner, enlarge or minimize the picture to what you want. FYI, I'm on a Mac and resizing hasn't worked for me for a while so sometimes my pictures are larger than I would like. I guess I should tell the Mods but so far nobody has asked me WTHeck are you doing? If my directions are confusing give a shout out and someone will probably come up with a better explanation.

  • m0mmyof3
    m0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,753

    TaRenee, your cat is so handsome!

    So mad right now. Opened my blind on my side porch to see that the stupid squirrels have chewed up and pretty much destroyed one of my bird feeders!!!!!


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Tarenee, I'm an old nurse, and an old teacher. therefore, very opinionated and a PITA. I would suggest considering a better tool (med) for your sleep and hot flashes. Effexor is a bitch. A nasty bitch. Once it gets you it can take six months to a year to wean off. Even for depression they're better drugs. Of all the drugs in the SSRI and SNRI families, I disrespect Effexor the most.

    Years ago I worked with some gals on the Hot Flash Forum. It's inactive now. I was there for maybe the first 30 some pages. That is where I learned to disrespect Effexor. So many ladies had a horrible time with it. But you make your own judgement once you read the pages. I linked to the first page of the forum.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/78/topics/770796?page=1

    Jaymeb. I'm linking to the Warm & Fuzzies thread. In the topic box, I've placed links to a bunch of threads. Cats, dogs, other funny threads, gardening........Some are active, some inactive. Anytime something is inactive, you can restart it by posting and see if anyone pops in.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/102/topics/818346?page=693#idx_20766

    Jay & Tarenee in the topic box of W&F's there are instructions towards the end to go to page 508(?) and there are directions from several people on how they post pics.


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Tarenee back to Effexor, there was never a study that proved that Effexor was good for hotflashes. It started to be used off label for that around 2010 thereabouts. As for sleep they're much, much better tools. The SSRI's and SNRI's are messing with Serotonin and Norepinephrine. They are two of the biggest neurotransmitters in the brain. At this end of my life, I feel that taking all other measures possible before messing with them is the first course of action. Frankly, I will be bold enough to suggest not taking the drug until you do all the reading on the Hot Flash forum. I, generally, don't say such a thing, but that's how serious I think these drugs are in hurting versus helping people.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Bummer lost a long post

    Loverly, loved the picture

    Junie, no phone oh my.

    Jwoooohottiehoo

    Blue, darn I lost this complete thingy about dog incontinence, The short of it was internet recommendations. 1. vet visit to check neuroexam and stool for parasites or if urinary incontinence check for infection. Xrays as determined by vet exam. My vet deferred on the xrays. Ordered a course of Flagyl For Shats that worked. For Shats we backtracked and determined she had an intestinal thing just prior to this happening.

    She hasn't had a problem since, the flagyl treatment

  • Bluebird-DE
    Bluebird-DE Member Posts: 1,233

    Jaymeb - there are several pet forums, each w its own style. I talk a lot when I write. What takes someone an hour to type takes me about 10 minutes, just easy for me. To talk to people, it's a lot harder for me. I then am more the listener. And with the voice compromised it is moreso now. I just love birds. I started a collection of them when I was 23, found one at a flea market. The clear blue-coloured glass bluebirds of happiness were always a favourite. But now more the porcelain birds that look real. And the resins, and the wood carved. Some years ago I got ticked off at these people trying to push me around and changed my name to MadBluebird and used that little picture of the mad bluebird face. A few months later I dropped the 'mad' and kept the bluebird. Michael L Smith is the photographer. I imagine her was too close to the nest in order to earn that face! I have had wrens look at me like that.

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  • Bluebird-DE
    Bluebird-DE Member Posts: 1,233

    Got through baskets and crocks in living room / dining / office. There are always a lot of crocks and baskets in all my rooms. I am a born nester. and now to the last two closets, hall and coat. Hubby keeps saying I have done enough for today but I do not want to put off those closets yet again.

    A lot of pain in liver right lobe area since last evening. Have been coughing a lot from bronchial irritation that was mostly cleared up and now isn't???? and why I do not know????? and that aggravates it, middle of night the sharp pain also moved into shoulder which is referred liver pain. Tylenol last night did not seem to help. I just took two more x strength tylenol. Ate cereal. If that doesn't work in an hour I will try the fentanyl patch at 12.5 mcg / hr release. I can take it off if it bothers me, better than swallowing a pill and can't back down except w ipecac in the first few minutes....... which I have done, btw.......

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 4,243

    Blue, could all that cleaning stir up the dust bunnies and they are now taking refuge in your airways? Organizing/cleaning ...I want to do that too, but that means I will be tempted to give away DH's and DDs' stuffs. I am sorry to hear you are having uncontrolled pain. Fentanyl patch may take up to six hours to work and 12-24 hours to see full affect. The coughing probably doesn't help with the liver pain. :(

    Please do share your pics of your collections of birds when you are up to it. I like birds too. That blue bird looks familiar.



  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    BLue hoooooooo irritation. So, I know liver stuff is going on. But do you still have your gallbladder?

    Referred pain to the shoulders is part of a differential diagnosis. Referred pain that only goes to the shoulders is part of the differential between heart pain and abdominal pain. Shoulder pain with all the regular heart stuff ruled out is b/c of irritation of the phrenic nerve on the underside of the diaphragm. Gallbladder should be considered a culprit, even if liver is a problem. Even if the GB is gone the common bile duct can be a problem for some post GB removal. Long story, but they're is a certain old drug that is helpful with that type of pain. The drug isn't used much anymore in this country, but can still be used by an ordering doctor. Most just have forgotten it. OR are too young to even know about it's use in Common bile duct post removal pain. Yes, it's that old. Hey, I'm old what can I say.

    I'll await your reply.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    LOverly, so right about dust bunnies. Environmental stuff can create havoc. My house is still in construction disheaval. The drywall dust for me is trouble. I was sensitized to chalk in the teaching days with chalk. Drywall and chalk have a common base. Donnie got drywall dust all over everything. Now mostly confined b/c of Di's good cleaning. But my closet......walls of clothes with the dust. I took out what we needed and made baskets in the other bedrooms. But there are clothes in there that have the dust on them. Di will have to help with getting things either washed or discarded. Di and I took a days cleaning of all the high boxes, but construction dust is months of cleaning per Di.

    OH, was using the facilities in the construction bathroom and looked up. There are two water marks on the ceiling. New within a short time. Not sure when, but recent. So, means there's a roof leak until proven otherwise.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Jay and Tarenee, yes we talk about everything. Very mixed group here. From long term survivors to severe stage 4. Unusal. but we like what we have. It's almost like a relief from cancer thoughts, but when someone needs cancer help, well, folks jump in.

  • TaRenee
    TaRenee Member Posts: 406

    Jaymeb I’m in NC in a tiny town north of Raleigh. I went to grad school at UNCG so I’m familiar with Greensboro. And I had a few friends who lived in High Point. Some of them still do. I don’t get there often now. Work gets in the way lol.

    Sas, I’m not seeing a lot of results with Effexor. Honestly, I’m not sure I’m going to keep taking it. My MO said give it 6 weeks. I’m going to talk to my BS tomorrow and ask her opinion on what helps. Ambien never worked well for me in the past so that is already out for me. I just want to sleep better. The hot flashes during the day I can deal with. The night sweats that wake me up are what is getting to me. It’s not every night. But it’s often enough to be a problem. Thank you for the link and the information. I’ve never been a big one for drugs. I’m just searching for answers now. I stay so tired

  • wren44
    wren44 Member Posts: 7,931

    My non-medical opinion is that after 6 weeks you'll have some problems getting off effexor. Be sure to do it slowly. I take trazodone to help me sleep. It's an old old antidepressant that's pretty useless for depression, but does help with sleep.

  • junieb
    junieb Member Posts: 945

    Sas - Yep, No phone for now. I feel rather lost. The battery will NOT take a charge. Maybe I can replace that first, before actually buying a whole new phone. I filed my taxes today thinking my refund would be deposited by maybe the end of next week. That has been the pattern I've experienced over the last several years. However, at the end of my form as I clicked the e-file button I read a note saying that the IRS is not accepting forms until January 29th and mine wouldn't be accepted until the 31st. Yay! NOT! Oh well, it is what it is.

    Loverly - You seriously could have held the camera a bit lower and kept me out of the pic totally. I looked awful!

    The Orchid is gorgeous. You found that for only $5.99? I see them here at the stores and they are priced anywhere from $25.99 to $39.99. I watched a show yesterday on horticulture in Costa Rico. They showed how Orchids are somehow planted on the sides of certain trees and they thrive beautifully. I am lucky to keep my 4 houseplants alive though.

    Kathindc - The next 8 days are going to feel like forever. While I understand that Kirby being at the trainer is a good thing, I can also see in my demeanor that not having Kirby with me is having a majorly negative effect on my mood. I find myself not being motivated to get much of anything done. I volunteered twice last week just to keep my brain busy. Kirby missed his January grooming, so he's going to be one shaggy little boy when he gets home, but he has an appt. on Feb. 1st.

    On Friday I stopped by the store where I had my quilt up for sale. The quilt has been there for several months with no potential buyers, so I removed it and am now thinking I will donate it to a charity for a fund-raising raffle. Based on my experience I think quilts should be made mainly for gifts for loved ones, because most people don't realize how much time and expense goes into the making of a quilt and don't want to pay a fair price for it. I don't remember if I ever posted a pic of this one, so here it is.

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    Anyway, guess that is all for now. I guess I'll go find something productive to do. Later to all.


  • Beatmon
    Beatmon Member Posts: 617

    junieB: your quilt is beautiful. I treasure all of mine, made by my grandmother. Oh, how I used to fuss getting the quilting frames down every winter...I was just a kid of course.

    Didn’t use my quilts for the longest time, but now I’ve decided to enjoy them

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    JUNIE 64 degree's haha.

    Loverly, I so wish you were in the picture of Shep and I cuddling with Junie sitting there.

    What was so unusual was. the weather was freezing. That's why we were so covered.

    What Shep & I , multiple time's we called the "resort" was to make sure our rooms were next door to each other.

    The walls were common, but you had to walk into an open air hallway then go into the next hall way. BUT THE ROOMS HAD A COMMON WALL. How were we to know that several, miles away or states away. Made visiting between the rooms miserable............

    Another reason to get a cellphone ... I have no pictures.

    I so loved the visit

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    TaRe, Please, reconsider Effexor. You have just started it , you can stop it with out repercussions. JUST like Wren said if you give it six weeks you will have problems coming off it. Doc's prescribe things b/c it supposdely fits the scenario. They don't have to live with the side effects of the drug.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 15,894

    Junie the quilt is beautiful. Talk to Smarrty about selling.

    Beatmom Hmm the use of quilts. My Mom and first cousin had identical quilts from the early part of the 1900's. Mom used hers , Mary didn't. One was worn and a bit ragged, one perfect. Not sure what the right thing was.

    I did , however, make a decision on china and glass. I observed that special glass and china(like linens) were put in cupboards. Rarely used. Then passed from Mother to Daughter. Then rarely used. Then styles changed. and the grands discarded these once thought valuable "things".

    So, use your most precious possessions at every moment you can, that's why you love them.

    I rescue glass.

    I gave my neighbor a bowl that was from 1886. Her response was " Why would you do this".... I was teaching her how to love glass, I was teaching her about glass history, I was teaching her about USA history of glass.......We met during Irma.....She is a thrifter, but wasn't into glass. We talked about the thrifting mantra. I made her promise to keep it forever or make museum arrangements.

    It caused her to see the value of something different than she knew.

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 1,667

    Sas, last year at Christmas DD2 had brought her boyfriend for dinner. I have Waterford, made in Ireland not the newer stuff and was told there is no resale value for it. Didn't buy it for resale value but for the beauty of it. Broke a flute years ago and couldn't get upset about it. The sound was glorious when it broke, LOL. Have several leaded glass bowls and a vase that belonged to my grandmother. My aunt tried guilting my mother to give them to her. My mom gave them to me so she could tell my aunt she didn't have them anymore then told me to hide them. Nope! put them in my china cabinet in full view. My aunt rarely came to my house.

  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,145

    TaRenee my DH is from Charlotte.

  • jaymeb
    jaymeb Member Posts: 241
    JunieB

    Beautiful quilt. I don't think many women quilt much anymore. My grandmother did, and I have many of her quilts. I'll pass them to my daughter, and hopefully, she'll do the same, and keep them for many generations. How long have you been quilting, and what got you interested in it?