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I know I missed a bunch of you and I'm trying to catch up. 44444 your pics make me laugh.
Hi Sas, I'm still feeling yucky from iron infusions. Labs will be repeated after 8th infusion.
Celebrated my 60th birthday over the weekend. I guess now I can officially post on the old ladies thread
)Smaarty, congratulations on your weight loss. Did you post any before and after pics?
Yea, Blessings, your long post came thru this time. Thank you info on seep apnea. So glad I can do the test at home. I'll have to ask my doc about it.
Hope you're doing okay 2nd, miss your posts.
Goodnight all, sleep well.
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Congratulations Smarty! You DID it girl! That is a great accomplishment... Now if I could just DO it! I guess I just don't want to try hard enough....
Nettie, we are all trying to fix you... like notself says....You just gotta try it! Besides, maybe you aren't old enough to realize that all this stuff is not about your DH, it is about you...
You are just like the way I used to be... Afraid to make waves.... But you could just mention that you are going to TRY sleeping elsewhere. I don't mean with your neighbor, oh well wait... maybe that WOULD work.
But I mean you need YOUR sleep.... we don't really care what DH is doing in HIS space... but that is not YOUR space.
There are times in our marriages, where us WOMEN get to play boss, and not succumb to husbands wishes... now is the time.
I don't know ANYone who could sleep under those conditions... NOT in the same room... We have a couple little night-lights on, so we don't stumble and fall all over again in the dark, but I am used to them...
So just "man-up".... take the bull by the horns, and TELL Mr. DH that you are sleep-deprived, and that you can't STAND to follow his instructions anymore concerning you.
That if you get any crankier, you are going to smack him over the head with that stand-by cast-iron skillet. Period. There! I fixed you! If DH has any questions, tell him "nothin' doin!" That "Chevy is a busy woman, and her pay is exorbitant."
I don't know nothin' about pain... so someone else has to fix THAT for you.
Morning miss Cammi... you are right.... about something.... I forgot what it was... Oh wait.... It's that thing you said about our brains catching up with our bodies... You KNOW our brain does not work together with our body, our heart, or sometimes our desires.
Our brain has a mind of it's own. Our heart works with no-one. And our desires? Forget it. See, our brain is supposed to be in charge, governing our other parts... but our other parts over-ride our brain, and just go off on their own.
See, my brain was begging my leg to MOVE... but it wouldn't. Leg was just off on it's own somewhere... It is STILL fighting my brain.
Our heart just works willy-nilly, and thinks things that our brain would like to slap the hell out of it... but our heart is hell-bent on destruction sometimes.
And our desires? Forget it! The brain has no control over what we WANT and what we shouldn't have. That's with sex, food, and going out and partying ... like the Cammi does.
Okay, now what else can I fix?
Geese Tang! I don't think I have a clue as to how to help you... just to say I'm sorry for all that stuff... Hoping you get all fixed up SOON!
Enerva! That is some contraption! Man, I know nothing about drains.. I just had tubes hanging out from the MammoSite device.. but only had that going on for a little over a week, until they removed it!
44444444444444444! I just always love your pictures! I sent it to my Daughter's!
Morning Sass, Dwilli, Susan and Blessings!
Yes, Good Morning Littlepaws! How's those fur-girls? Happy Birthday! Geez, you guys are ALL younger than I am...Wish you would hurry and catch up! And thanks for the compliments gals... it means a lot!
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happy 60th paw!!!!!!!!!! Hope you celebrated in style:)
Blessings. I think we have twins for husbands..lo. I actually stood on the bed, years ago, and started hitting him with my pillow....lol. Told him he had to go to a sleep clinic cause I couldn't sleep with HIS sleep disorders
Never went....those men.......but I bought him a tenperpedic pillow....WHEN, he uses it, he sleeps like a baby...still some muscle twitching , but not as bad, and doesn't wake me up. But the nights are so funny...he falls asleep with 2 or 3 pillows, and when he falls asleep I pull the 2 pillows out so he just has his tenperpedic . He tries to grab them from me and we have a tug of war...lol so funny....until he kinda wakes up and is like...ohhhhh.....then we both sleep more peacefully. But I have been known to throw him...nicely, out of the room...he slinks out with is head down 
. I do worry about that twitching thing, his body can't be resting well with.Have a good day everyone
Chevy, my daughter and hubby are on their way back from Florida, they kayaked...my daughter wouldn't get out of the kayak cause of sharks and alligators.....lol. Not as brave as your kids !!!!
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oh I need to tell you all that my dogs past away around 7 years ago. I didn't mean now. I only was saying that in answer to Nettie who asked me what was my avatar all about. Thanks you for.you kind words I still keep my babies cloth and toys I adored my dogs so much that I have not been able to get another one here is a picture of us.
back then. 
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Enerva, I knew that.... but I know how you still miss them! I just wanted to ask... do you want to get another one? Our Daughter's keep pestering us, to get another puppy, but I reallyt want one just now... I'm so afraid when the Orlando one gets here, she will try it again!
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oh no, I could not get another one, at least not now. I live in a condo and it's not nice to have dogs in an apt maybe if I one day move up north to a house. Went I went home to visit my family I spent time with my brother s new puppy. It broke my heart to say good bey it also reminded me of the great feelings my dogs provided me all those 13 years but also of the pain I felt when I had to let them go. I personally am not ready. I have to focus on my health for now, I now live in this Wierd fear 😨 that I may not live too long lol
Now I LL just live LA vida loca. Lol
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Okay.... I understand... That's how I feel too... just can't do it... Thanks.
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Morning owls! Happy birthday paws! We could have had a party, I guess better late then never. So let's party on! I think Tang and Nettie could use a little fun. Someone should bring the booze, must have fancy coffee for this (and Chevy can bring the cannibus).
Enerva, like your pics. You'll know when it's time to get a new fur baby in your life.
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Tang, sometimes I need a kick in the head anymore for stuff to fall out. Your life is at risk b/c of BC. But your life is also at risk from your life saving treatment. Based on what you described, they closed the incision after the clean out(debridement). The infection was given another closed environment to grow. Then your immunity was decreased again by the chemo. Chemo stops the healing phase of tissue growth. You are on very high powered antibiotics. Antibiotics themselves can suppress the immune system.You need an advocate. Please call your insurance company and ask for a "Critical Care Nurse manager that handles complex major cases". It's important to use these words. This type of person will review your records and step in to talk with the docs re: your management. To get this position this person has to have a very strong clinical and management background. They are not the couple years in med-surg type. That type in this situation would not work well.
If the incision was closed, you are at risk for it opening again. As it is, in the development of the treatment plan, another debridement should be discussed. Generally, a wound such as yours is left open and allowed to heal by filling in from the bottom. This takes a very long time. Very often today a Wound Vacuum (Vac) Is used. It shortens the healing time. But nfectious Disease doc would know if can be treated this way. There is criteria a wound bed site must meet in order for a Vac to be used. A vac used improperly can cause problems.
Your Infectious Disease doc should be directing your wound management. Is this happening? Talk with him about the situation.
Someone prescribed high powered antibiotics without a culture and sensitivity being repeated. Without a C&S they are guessing that it's the same bacteria. A new bacteria could have moved in and set up housekeeping.
Please, call for the advocate. They can cut through the bullshit and get answers that we can't.
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Paws HAPPY BIRTHDAY
. Nice to be able to chalk up another one YAY Enerva and Chevy, sorry about your sad memories of your furbabies passing.
Blessings, Your description of your Dh's OSA was perfect. There should be a diagnosis "Obstructive Sleep Apnea by Proxy". It would be all the problems that a sleep apneic has, but is manifested in their sleeping partner. OSA can cause obesity, high blood pressure, diabetes, heart disease, memory issues oddles more. This is why it is taken so seriously. OSA can kill, slowly, but your still dead from the diseases that it causes.
This link is from Mayo Clinic. It discusses the complications of OSA. It, also, discusses the problems of partners AND children of sleep apneics. The affect on children is new information for me, bummer.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/sleep-apnea/basics/complications/con-20020286
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Great pictures from everyone. Looks like a Cliff Swallow Enerva. How cool to be nesting on the rock wall. Love min pins.
Tang, you poor thing. Sending lots of germ-free hugs and positive healing. I had a miserable time for months after my flap construction and you will get through this! We are all with you girl!
Nettie, I had good luck with a TENS unit also. The electrical impulses help break up the nerve pain cycle. I also used an egg crate/memory foam mattress topper that helped my sciatica when I had it. Good luck finding some pain relief.
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I appreciate all the suggestions and concerns! But the one thing that you do not understand…I
can NOT sleep other than in my own bed!
I’ve tried, it just doesn’t work
and we are not financially able to buy another bed identical to the one I sleep
on! Now that being said, I can force the
DH to sleep in another room although he could quite easily adjust as he can
sleep anywhere. However, he absolutely
refuses although he is only in “our” bed approx. 4 hours per night! In other words, he comes in after I’m asleep,
which wakes me, I struggle to get back to sleep, which by the time I do, I get
about an hour before his alarm goes off at 4 am and then I’m awake again! I then, try to sleep a little more, but find
that this just makes getting up even harder!Our house is small and therefore, any movement or light
affects my sleep also!I’m trying to get us an appointment with a counselor to try
to convey to him how important it is that I get my rest, but so far, no luck
getting in. I will pursue!!And Chevy, how wonderful that you don’t have pain! I hope to be so lucky one day!
Happy birthday Paw!!
Tang, hope today finds you more comfortable and resting!
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Chevy, Preempt your Orlando DD by offering to foster a dog for a shelter. Then there's a dog on the premises, so you clearly don't need another. We fostered dogs for several years before moving on to cats. It's such a joy to see a young dog go to a family with children.
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Good morning all! Many pages behind as this has been a very busy week. Job hunting continues, job fair Tuesday, should be getting ready for one instead of stopping by here, one on Monday,..... Hoping something good comes of all this. Glad I get notifications on my cell...
Want to wish all those having pain some relief. Pain sucks!
Pawprint, want you to have a very happy birthday!
Hopefully, will BBL
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Good Morning or afternoon whatever it is.
Oh Tang what a mess u've been having and ended up in the hospital oh that's horrible.I'm glad u'r home, now u have to take care of u'rself and plenty of rest.
Nettie I wish we could help u more, I think everyone is trying to help u sleep better cuz maybe u'll feel better.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY PAW---Hey Chevy Paw said oh maybe now I could post on the old thread---well let's just say if I were 60 again and knew what was coming ahead--well I guess I'd still be in the same place I am now, so no sage advice.
A little busy and so tired--no good reason.
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Tang – gentle hugs to you…
Pawprint – wishing you a belated happy birthday! Only 60?
You’re just a baby!!!Dwill – hope better days are around the corner for you…
Notself – so glad the Alka Seltzer Plus works for you. I’m
terribly allergic to several of the ingredients in it. However, when I’m having
a bad reaction to something environmental or something I’ve eaten, I take Alka
Seltzer Gold – it does have a high sodium count, but it somehow manages to
alkalinize the blood to offset the acidic reactions that cause release of
histamines. Crazy how some things work for conditions totally unrelated to what
they were designed to fix!Susan – yep! Twin hubbies. Unfortunately, mine does more
than twitch… I’m talking major karate kicks and chops. To end that would mean more medication… just what he doesn’t need. At least
yours doesn’t remember much of the pillow tug-of-war!!!Enerva – beautiful picture of you and your furbabies! I feel
the same way about my kitties as you do about your dogs. I put the last one
down several years ago, and I miss them every day. But our house is very clean,
DH has no more cat-hair allergy, and we don’t have to find someone to come in
and take care of them if we travel. So wherever we are, when I see a cat, I
yell “KITTY!” and have to go over and get my Kitty Fix… rubbing their ears,
their bellies, whatever they let me do. For now, that’s all I get.Smaarty – that’s some party you’re planning! I will bring
the sugar free Torani Almond Roca syrup to spice up my coffee!Chevy – Amen, Sistah!!! Keep that cast-iron skillet handy!!!
Oh, Sassypants… you are such a…. NURSE!!!! And a dang good
one at that. Thanks for the link to the OSA info. DH did his study last night;
I will be requesting a referral from my PCP today. It’s so crazy… we have all
these symptoms, and I am dumb enough to always think, “Well, A happened, then B
happened, so it stands to reason that A caused B.” NOT!!!! Our health
conditions can be peeled off like layers of an onion… one thing leads to
another, and sometimes treating one symptom ignores the core issue completely.
These days I feel like the medical Dick Tracy!!!Hi, FierceBluebird – how is it that I am just now reading
your siggie line? I LOVE it!!!!Wren – Fostering furbabies – what a great idea!!!!! I would love to foster some kittens, but DH
is not a cat – or dog – person. He’s very allergic. Plus, I would never be able
to give any of the kitties back, and pretty soon Animal Control would be on my
doorstep citing me for having 75 cats in my house!!!!2TA – you are in my prayers for terrific results on your job
search. The perfect job is out there somewhere. You are awesome, and I believe in you!!!!Cami – yesterday was our anniversary. DH had a doctor’s
appointment, so I lay down at 2 pm for a nap. I woke up at 7 pm, having
completely missed dinner! Oh well, like my mom always used to tell me, “Your
body must have needed it.” Ya gotta do what ya gotta do.Nettie – did you see my question to you?
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BIG day today… haircut and color at 1:30…. And then…well, I
guess nothing else is on my agenda.DH did his sleep study last night and should get the results
in a week. He also had his first acupuncture session today. Said it went well.
(He’s really a needle wuss.) I told him he wouldn’t be able to see anything. He
said he felt relaxed.Have some yard work to do but it’s supposed to be 108 by the
weekend. Whoopee! Maybe I can sweat off some of this excess poundage…. Kidding!!!Hugs to all my Owlettes, especially those I didn’t respond
to personally!!!xoxoxoxoxo
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Blessings---you are so sweet and good, we are blessed to have you here.
In fact there are so many good people here, it makes me tear up. Love you all, I need a good cry.
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Ohhhhh My Dog
Each time I loose a pup I'm ready for the nut house. It hurts soooooo much. But I always knew, even before they were gone, I'd have another. I just can not imagine life without a dog.
My previous love was an Australian Shepherd. I always thought I'd have another. They are tied for first place with Border Collies for brains. Aussies do it all!!! Ring side, ranch work, couch potato, best bud, that's an Aussie. Champion shedder too.
Why did I get one that's a few (a lot) of fries short of a happy meal? I needed a small dog. She does exactly what her breed is supposed to do. Look pretty, not much else.
I guess my point is, I just NEED a dog or 2 in my life. And I think Vulfie would approve.
If you don't want a pup, go to your local shelter, give an older dog a chance for love! Or contact a rescue group. Kris, and Rooney before him came from poodle rescue.
Do it for a pooch, do it for yourself!
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Officially on a downer. This should have been my 42nd wedding anniversary on the June 24th. Dh died of Lymphoma. But what lead to the path of his destruction was OSA. He developed it in the late 80's. They just came out with the assisted sleep apnea machine. The research was really taking off. In the early days OSA was believed to be caused by obesity. But that didn't explain the people that had OSA that were normal weight. It was a chicken and egg thing.He refused the machine. He yoyo'd on dieting. He didn't use me.
His weight wasn't too bad then just over 250. He had a weight problem his whole life. I observed that each time he lost weight, he then would regain it, but with an additional 20-30 pounds. His apnea symptoms would appear around 220. I suggested he just stick to a goal of weight that he wouldn't have the apnea symptoms. Nope. He kept yo-yoing. Everytime he got heavier.
His highest weight was >400. It was helped along by his diabetic specialist who put him on Actos. Biggest s.e. of Actos was weight gain. He gained approximately 60 lbs on the drug. At the time I wasn't studying his drugs b/c I figured a Board Certtified Endocrinologist would be intimately be aware of drug affects. Wrong. No idea what the doc was thinking. Dh dutifully went for all office visits. Doc evaluation each time.
Progression of diseases from OSA. Obesity, hypertension, High cholesterol, diabetes, prostate problems, Gout, back & hip problems b/c he carried his weight in the belly. He was a mess
Forget the exact year he started to use the apnea machine--around 2000. But the conversation included him saying he'd rather be dead than use it. I said okay you will be. He started to use it, but by that time so much damage had been done.
The final blow was cardiomyopathy. Lipitor joined the party and dropped his cardiac output to 20 % from 65% in one month. Transplant time is 15%. He'd been on it for years, but the cardio doc tripled his dose. He was disabled at 55y/o.
Thousands of details left out. I said in a previous post that OSA kills, it just kills slowly. The coup de gras was a Board Certified Internal Medicine doc who kept feeding him pain pills for the back pain without a single diagnostic test to determine origin of the pain. He never complained to me about the back or hip pain and I didn't know he was a narcotics for pain. He kept it hidden. Did he become addicted --yes. Probably why he kept it all hidden.
On April 17th 2009, acute abdominal pain got him a Ct scan. The GI doc described " the lymph nodes in the space around the lumbar nodes as lighting up like a Christmas tree." Further testing, it was everywhere. Retrospectively, at the time I figured he had it for years. But all his doctoring failed him. There was a preset in the docs minds b/c of his weight.
Where was I. DH wanted to NOT have me involved in his medical business. I respected that when I could, and barged in when I did at times. Then he'd push me away once the crisis was over.
OSA kills, it just kills slowly. Dh died on August 20th, 2010. Age 61
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Well, guess that's a husband for you.... I would LOVE for mine to go get a physical at least once every 10 years.... But nope, he won't go.... even though it is free every year. He will only go if he is really SICK with something that we can't fix.... Like the gout.... And the Doc, diagnosed THAT as a torn Achilles Tendon in his heel! It wasn't that. The pain pills didn't help much.... He was using a walker, then crutches... We SHOULD have taken him to ER, so they could have tested something! She only did blood-work, and it came back okay... He didn't have an X-ray.... I think ER would have done that there... But when you can't walk, you have to go somewhere, and you trust your Doc.
BUT he started getting better within a week! It had to be gout... An actual tear of that tendon would have laid him up for WEEKS! And he didn't hurt it!
So he won't go Sass... And I can't make him... good thing he is pretty healthy! He is stubborn.... even more stubborn than when he was younger. Sorry about your DH, but I know how it is.... they won't let us try and talk them into anything, even if it is for the good of them! So no tests....
Sass, tell me what OSA is....
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Spookiesmom stopp lol I am not ready you make me feel bad but I am in not place to get a baby just now, I mean even if it is an older dog it's just going to be my baby 👶 n I promise in the future maybe I will
blessing thanks I really appreciate all the knowledge you provided me
Here a cute one !
With that face I could just give in all the treats in my home lol
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Oh Sas, so sorry. Yes, they can hide things well. As for the narcos, I think mine is abusing too. DD has noticed some changes too, it's that or dementia.
Enerva, don't feel bad, get one when you can!
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Chevy
Obstructive Sleep Apenea
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Thanks spookie
Chevy, Dh was soooooooooo stubborn it eventually led to his demise with a little help from his docs. The OSA is what we've been talking about the last few pages. Nettie's husband is disrupting her sleep with his problem which is causing much of her problems. He won't leave her bedroom.
Nettie be outright blunt with him." Dh you are killing me. Is that what you want?". Sometimes use of certain words can get them to change their behavior.
I remember this one patient one time that was bleeding allot from the rectum all over the floor. He wasn't doing anything the nurses wanted. Refusing blood transfusions. One look at the situation as I walked in the room and I could tell he was going into shock. He was mottling---very bad sign. Everyone's worried about wiping the blood up and changing the sheets. I ordered them to get him down. His nurse said just a minute we'll have the sheets changed. "Down now" They all, even him responded. I asked the charge nurse if anyone had told him how bad his condition was. She says "we told him he was taking a turn for the worse". I said "has anyone told him he's going to die if he doesn't do what he's told?" He became very cooperative. He needed to hear the words----he was a lawyer with an attitude that he could control everything.
Nettie is he that selfish? Well if he is, you need to get it through to him he is causing you to be ill. You can do this.
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Spookie one of the long term outcomes of obstructive sleep apnea is dementia. Has to do with the long term lack of oxygen getting to the brain.Whooheee big storm a comin`
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Chevy, the test for gout is Uric Acid. It's a special order. Gout can't be picked up with regular labs
Spookie ---no luck on the china pattern. But the company is still in business. I went through replacements .com.
Try calling replacements.com and ask if they charge for pattern identification. I talked with a thrift seller that was wanting to sell stuff to replacements.com. There requirements for selling to them are off the wall crazy.
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Oh sas, I've said that believe me, he just looks at me, rolls his eyes and says "oh please" and just continues with his ways! and yes he is that stubborn! I don't really know how to explain him to you so that you will understand! He doesn't "do" doctors accept for a kidney stone! and then he only goes to ER for meds! He is either really convinced that I"m ok, or he is in complete denial! and I can't get through to him! He tells me that he hurts all the time and just deals with it and so should I!
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