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Now Blessings! WTH is Mexican Train? Is that like what the guys asked us
to play when we were in High School? Bet not! Was that like when they asked
us if we wanted to go watch the ducks fly over by the lake at night?I know.... it's hard getting up and down when the little kids come by, but
it was fun for us to see all their costumes their Mom's made... and how happy
they were.Maybe you will get used to your machine soon? It is supposed to help you sleep & breathe better?
Yes, I turned my clock back last night... It just gets dark earlier
now...222222222222nd ! I like that, about being in each other's life for a
reason. I remember a saying.... "People are in your life, for a reason, a season or a lifetime."And yes, things WILL get better.... sorry about that.....
Blondie! What did you do?
And morning Teka, Foots and Wren! Our leaves are about done in. They were
the prettiest I have EVER seen this year! You could turn a corner, and a huge
mass of GOLD & YELLOW was there! Just takes your breath away.Morning to Rosie and Meow also! I didn't take any of those pills.... Only
Tamoxifen for about 1 1/2 years... SOME women really have joint pain with
Arimidex, but others not so bad.... ask you Doc?Meow, can you take something like Benadryl before bed? Or rub yourself
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Good sunday morning peeps.
To much to catch up on but I ditto Blessings words--she always says nice things. Some don't always say nice things--no name mentioned, but it's a name that mimics riding in and can have a horn in the body of this object with a car engine. See I didn't say any name.
Spookie u'r arm? OMG can u still use u'r middle finger? hope it's healing is quicker than they think. Spookie is adorable (as usual)
Teka u'd better hurry up and eat the candy, u know it won't stay good to long and u don't want to waste it. LOL
Time change ick in the morning it's still dark. I get so confused when we change times.
We have a dog that's 1/2 border collie and 1/2 lab--well he always watches when my cat walks on me and cuddles with me when I lay down. First time he ever did this jmped on the couch and walked on me to lay down on me I couldn't breathe and yelled get off, I scared him so he was still walking on my ribs, OMG I started LOLing cuz I thought this is it for me, I told him how sorry I wa yelling, he finally got off all confused but my ribs took a beating and my cat just watched like this is not going to work--if cats could laugh she would be hysterical, brat. I feel battered this morning, So I didn't sleep much. So I'm crabbier than usual
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You yelled at the dog? Oh Noooooooooo! He was just pretending he was a cat, like your other one! At least you told him you were sorry! You probably scared the crap out of him... He is going to have "issues"... And confusion is one of them.... Ha! Katy-Kat was probably thinking "HAH!"
Just don't be crabby.... don't you have a job to do? Somewhere? Yes.... I need a horn.... My car horn is such a pitiful little thing.... It's like "beep-beep".... like the Road-runner would say... I would like one like the TRAINS have! One that would BLAST that car ahead of me that is on their CELL phone, right off the road! Yes, like the Semi's have... An air-horn! That would DO it! And a battering-ram..... A big steel plate that would come out of the front of my car, and SHOVE that car on their way!
You think YOU are crabby? Ha! I beat you! xoxoxo
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Chevy, she had three fingers pinned because she had broken them when she fell. They thought her right index finger had a hairline fracture in it, but it turned out to be okay. She may be getting the pins out by the end of the month.
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Chevy- your last post made me laugh. My husband has a Passat and that car horn sounds like a little girls bike horn! A wimpy "please move" kind of tootles! Embarrassing! Especially for a car with a turbo charged pick up that can nearly break your neck when it kicks in!
Camilegal-poor lab! He was just being a copy-cat! Ouch a big lab kneeding your chest.. ouchie. Pretty funny though. We used to laugh at our cats and the dogs when our rabbits were out running around the house - everyone was afraid of the rabbits! (they were dwarf bunny and a mini lop) Great big dogs and the cats way bigger... oooohhh stay clear of the killer bunnies! Something out of comedy. The rabbits would jump up on the couch and stretch out - couch carrots we called them. The cats would copy and jump up on the chairs lay down and watch those weird animals with the crazy ears, big feet and twitchy noses!
Cold and wet here.. brrr. Stay warm.
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That sounds so fun Rosie! I've always loved bunnies! Okay thanks Momom! I remember you saying that now.... So many people been falling lately! Everyone is copying me I think.... Ha!
Morning Teka!
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Well, Chevy, if I had had a pole handy, I probably wouldn't have landed on my face.
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Mags How did you fall--story please?
Yes so many falls, Let's not mimic each other.
Spookie, did you ask for purple? There's quite a few colors. What does DD say about the story? I can here you growling from the west ohhhhhhhh
Smarrty, Oh have so much fun. I love cruising. Never felt so pampered. Looks like excellent weather. Do you remember when I said November was allot like April in Florida. November's just a tad less predictable than April. But they are great months for Florida. All the supplies I lay-in in June for hurricane season, I start using them in November, till there gone. Then lay-in supplies when the next June comes.
Blondie I think Chevy was trying to say GIRL what did you do to your hair. You carry the spiked look well. I can't find a hairdo with all the weight I gained. Still see the chubby cheeks and chins. Damn Thyroid and Steroids.
Okay just opened a bottle of wine getting warmed up to do an editorial LOL.
Pepper, What about a poncho to cover your wheel chair? Sounds wonderful that you all had such a great time with the parents and kids on Halloween. Special. I remember those days. All the local kids are grown and gone. Here we are what we call a drop off-drop in street. But still like to give candy even though it's only a four local kids and probably a couple hundred of outsiders. Candy is so expensive Whew........My neighbor does a real full yard cemetery and flying ghosts and bats etc.. At the very last minute I pulled out the Christmas candles and put them on the wall. Looked pretty good.
Remember when we talked about our dogs talking. Dini the lab is about 7-8 y/o. He's just learning to talk. He was talking to the kids Halloween night. First I said not to bark. Then he started talking. It was so sweet. 2 years ago now at his old home, all he knew was attack and aggression. If I ever loose the DBF, Dini must stay. He's so happy now.

Cami sorry about the ribs, but I can just imagine your border collie trying to do what Katy-Kat does. Rotten Katy was probably delighted that he got shooed away. I laughed that you apologized to the dog. I apologize all the time when something happens. I know the animals get it. I think all animal lovers get it. Non-animal owners just don't understand. Hope you are feeling better
I hate that all the drugs mess you up.Foots, did you check out any of the links in the topic box to see if they will help with sleeping? Sorry you are having pain and so many troubles
L&H&P's:)Chevy lot's & lot's of people have outdoor showers. Not as nice as that picture. Most folks want to be able to wash off the chlorine.
I did have too wash outside two days last week. OH my was it cold. Oddly, though I felt so refreshed for hours after. Different than a regular shower.Susan, remember when you said Bag Balm was stinky. My sense of smell is coming back with the thyroid meds. I was able to smell the BB yesterday, EWHeeeee. LOL I wonder what everyone thought of me ????????
GolfGirl, I had an increased heart rate when you said you were getting rid of stuff. Are your son and Daughter taking any thing?
Blessings, good luck with the Apap. They can be a godsend once you get used to them. So many illnesses tied to the sleep disorders. I know you have it all researched. DH got them all.
Where's 3rd? Nettie did you get you're ears checked?
Meow, I'm and old nurse. If you'd like me to take a look at your meds to see what may be causing your problem I will. I have Genelex, it's a special drug checker that not only has info about individual drugs, but it's the best in the world at checking drug interactions. It's better if your genetics are tested, but still is reasonable without the genetics. If you'd like me to run them through the checker send me a list by PM. Genelex is truly the best in the world. That's not an euphinisim(sic) that I often use.
For our Maddy , 2TA She needs our prayers now. She has stayed the course as the dutiful daughter in a very tough situation with her Mom & Dad, dealing with two idiot brothers, and a problem husband. Everyday has been a trial for months now. May our prayers fortify her in this time. As she has given so much to others, let that now be reflected back to her, enveloping her in love, strength, and warmth. For this we pray L&H&P's Maddy, we are with you

Edit: Maddy's Mom's time is close---when only God knows. Her situation of dementia clouds the situation. Her DH wants to do everything b/c he doesn't want to part with his beloved. Letting go is hard. Please, also, add Maddy's Mom and Dad in your prayers.
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KACI HICHOX---- A hero for Science and Constituitional rights.If you haven't followed the Kaci story. When She returned to the USA through N.J. Her temperature showed an elevation. It later tested as normal. She stated she was flushed. The people involved in New Jersey, went haywire. They put her in a tent outside of a hospital. Stupid people
The science: If she was really sick with Ebola her temp would not have shown to be normal within a short period of time. Doesn't happen.
My guess if they had tested her BP, it would have been elevated too as her heart rate would have been.
Red heads are different, I looked for EVIDENCED based scientific material but came up short. The fact that under anger and pressure that her temp elevated didn't surprise me. When I worked in the operating room I soon learned to respect the concerns of the anesthesia folks about doing surgery on red heads. Touchy. Very different. That was the 70's. I did find in Wiki references to anesthesia and pain issues.
The other references on Wiki ----well...........historical references to red heads are discriminatory.
What is important about Kaci. She understands the disease and she understands the constitution. The way she handled this important to all citizens. Studying from the beginning of her quarantine in NJ till the outcome of the case in Maine is incredibly important. It will set the standard for future cases.
Everyday more of our rights defined in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution are abridged in some way. Often the reason given is "We want to be safe".
What Kaci kept saying is it isn't based on science. She was right.
She has agreed to abide by the Maine's judicial ruling. BUT that ruling was already what the CDC was espousing. That ruling was just rendered. Not sure that the media realizes that Kaci new more than they did. This is a huge landmark ruling. Will either be taken to the Court of Appeals and the Supreme Court. If it's not it will become the landmark case by which all states will follow.
What muddies the waters----the young nurse Vinson that traveled with CDC approval and the New York doc that both got Ebola. The Vinson case caused the CDC to change their rules. Not heard anything in regard to the New York doc.
Each of their cases is different ----very different-------------so very different. The problem is unless you can decipher the differences, the seem the same.
What the ruling about Kaci will do is cause all states and the federal government to develop plans that are consistent. THIS IS BIG & IMPORTANT.
I so love this gal. She stood her ground against everyone and changed the world by a bike ride. The significance of the bike ride. Notice she didn't go towards town. It was a statement "I am free, but responsible". In the article that follows, it says as much. But when I was trying to explain it to DBF why she rode and everyone was following, she was keeping the world looking. She was following her beliefs in Liberty. Making everyone take notice, forcing the government to answer.
Ya got to love it----in the USA, one determined person can make a change.
I would love to call her my friend.
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hey all
SAS. I just read your post. Man I wish I would have read it to use the poncho idea. It was chilly out. Like around 42. Brr. Thanks for keeping us updated with 2nd issues going on. Will pm her. It's nice to have people from here for support
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I sent 22222222222222 an email..... Hope she lets us know what is going on, and if we can help? It's so hard to go through this crap without "friends" to "talk" to....
Maddy.... come talk to us.... Love you! xoxoxoxo
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Here was my Friday morning, Sassy.
DH put up a gate thingy behind our new pit group to keep the cat from using it to sharpen her claws. I'm walking back to the kitchen from the back door after letting the dogs out, and my foot catches the edge of the gate. Down I go, landing on my better knee and bad elbow. Cat takes of like a flash, cousin comes running, "I'm calling an ambulance!" "No, I'm ok!" She helps me up, I'm really ok but I have a "mouse" on my knee and I'm definitely limping.
Fast forward an hour or so, she's feeding the animals before she goes to church to help out. Can't find the cat anywhere. She's so skittish (the cat, not the cousin) that when she took off when I fell, she could have gone anywhere. Finally found her the second time we looked under my bed. By now I'm really limping.
Fast forward, cousin finishes getting ready and heads off. Minutes later, she's back – she has a flat tire.
So that's the story of my fall, and what followed that had me texting DH and telling him to be VERY careful for the rest of the day.
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Bummer, Re:Kaci On FB she is being castigated. I will probably too b/c unknown to me they gave my real name. But That is interesting. There wasn't a request to allow. I will deal with that in the future.Here and Pre-here---------I've stood for RIGHT. Please, as women follow Kaci's story. Her story is a point in history. It will change what is.
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OHhhhhhhhhhhhh Mags Ouch............I hate ouchies .It takes so long to recover. Good knee and better elbow...........so get it........krips, if the falls haven't killed me, I have time left.
Got frisky in the kitchen tonight. Something flew. Result several Claudia glasses broke. Only on the counter cuz DW still broke. Damn. Poop. ERGHH. POOP/
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Sassy - who is Kaci?
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thanks to you all, especially Sassy, Patty, Chevy, Teka, Blessings and everyone who has included me and my parents in your thoughts and prayers! They are felt and appreciated more than you'll all know!

Thought that last word was Friendship, darn, other than that it applies.
As I have said to some, if truth be known, I'm ashamed that there are so many others dealing with Stage IV DX and SE's I don't experience, my piddly problems seem so minuscule in comparison. I know ladies must be tired of hearing me complain (and frankly, I'm tired of writing it), I'm trying to stay upbeat so it's just easier to stay away. Your sweet words and funny postings cheer me up. With all the chit I'm going thru, can't keep up and get people and things messed up when I do have the time. I can honestly say the ONLY things keeping me going lately are my faith, and my BCO friends (IT and met thru other threads) they have embraced me as friend and family for which I will forever be grateful. As Sassy said, Mom's time may be near (never know with the ups and downs of dementia/Alzheimer's), Dad is very frail and suffering. I know this is the natural order of things, just didn't realize Mom would be in the hospital so much (the 5th trip to ER yesterday since mid-July) and I would be responsible for so much of it.
For those who are tired of hearing this, I'm sorry.
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So sad to read this
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2TA, my mom's been gone for 10 years now, but the memory of her last few years is still vivid. I think I speak for other Owlettes when I say, this is the place you can vent to your heart's desire. There's almost always someone around to give a listen. If we haven't been through it, we probably will at some point in time. And you need a safe place to unload so you don't explode from the stress. We're here.
Sassy, thanks to the immediate and consistent application of ice to the knee, the swelling went down and there's barely a bruise now.
Shame about the Claudias.
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Yes just sent a prayer to someone here, and other that ask
for prayer, How are You doing?
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I have alittle cold but taking a lot of vitamin C and hoping it
will go away, I bet the fire Department breakfast was good
Faith is doing much better and helping me again. I love her
like she was my child. How was Your day?
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It sounds like You had a clean up day, and then rested.
I got my trees taken down cause its hard to do them all.
but love the shade. I am going to check and see if I can
get help to put all my summer chairs away if its not raining
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Have a restful night too, I have full body lymphedema
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full body LE? How do you deal with that?
Teka, you're up late! Sweet dreams!
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Hi Rosevalley, I was 95 percent er and less than 10 percent pr. I had the generic anastrozole and the joint pain became too.painful. exemestane is better.
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thanks Teka, Mags and Little Foot!

For all who need or want a hug
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Oh yes I would agree with that. Arimidex's joint pain was debilitating, did me in. Aromasin is better but still makes me ache. I was wondering, since most I talk to stay on it until their 5 years are up.
Your cats are cute. I need to put something in my avatar. Maybe my prick eared Border collie whose effervescent personality and sheer joy in living makes me laugh. Tess does not know the meaning of the word sad. You can not be sad around this dog. She is irrationally exuberant! I have had folks drive by roll down their window and laugh and tell me -"shame that dog is so sad!" She literally bounces on walks, wagging her tail like a black and white flag. Wish I could keep up with her! Thank goodness she can get exercise with frisbees and balls and pull toys!
2TA- Vent all you need. We have all been there or will be at some point. My Mom has dementia and it breaks my heart to see the changes in her personality. Pitiful. You have both your folks to deal with and that's tough- and your own needs. ugh.. Hugs for you.
You know I just read that report about Brittany and her death. Why they would put in all that crap about priests for life and the "culture of death that permeates our culture" and then not have the other side of the story. I wonder how many folks against assisted dying have watched some one with a huge brain tumor suffer headaches, seizures, inability to talk, walk, express themselves just wither under the crush of something growing inside a closed skull squeezing the brain against bone and their lives with it. It took courage to do what she did and bless her for doing it publiclly so folks have a choice. America is about choices. Don't want death hastened - don't use it. I have often said if my doctors won't treat my pain, I know how to end my life without a script.
One of the saddest conversations I hve ever had was with my father in law. He was 90 and had a brain mets from colon cancer. He called while I was making dinner and stammered to find his words. I was trying to help him and couldn't, since what he was saying mostly didn't make sense. Finally he blurted out, " Love you all." I started to cry and said," I love you too." Thankfully besides right sided weakness and losing his speech he seemed to have little pain. He died in his community with hospice. Not everyone is so lucky. Funny to think that after my FIL's death, 10 months later my Dad would pass and 1 month after that I would get stage 3 cancer. When it rains it pours.
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2nd Time/Maddy, so sorry to hear that your parents are struggling so with their health issues. It is never easy. This is your safe place to vent & share your grief. Hoping for better days, soon.
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maddy-don't feel bad about talking about your stuff ((hugs))I'm praying for peace of mind and strength for you and comfort for your parents. Take care and vent when you need to!
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Morning gals.....MADDY............ I swear, you are living my life! I mean I went through all of this not that long ago! First, you will come out of this, but you won't think so yet....
But after Mom died, it was my DAD that also had CHF! I got there one night from the airport... His legs were both "leaking"... I couldn't underSTAND what was going on! Or what to do! I wiped them off, put this ointment on them... but it didn't help! I mean WHAT DO I KNOW! I drove him across town at night, to the emergency room.... He had been getting blood thinners, then blood thickeners, every DAY! HE had been driving over to the hospital!
I hope your Mom can stay comfortably in a nursing home.... there is so much going wrong with her, that you or your Dad can't possibly take care of it at home..... And no-one knows how long this will go on! I was frantic every day while watching my Grandmother go through this stuff... I just didn't want them to force-feed her.... the tubes... the dialysis... nothing.... Just "keep her comfortable".....
I tried to help my Dad, and talk to him all the time.... because Mom died 1 1/2 years before this.... He kept going downhill.... drinking, not eating, and losing Mom just tore him apart. I'm just sorry that anyone else has to go through this.... because it just breaks your heart. I know it's so frustrating for you! But you have to hang on for the ride! YOU are the only thing they have right now....
Your family can't even help you.... they probably don't want to get into it.... and they can't help. It's just you.... It's just you little Maddy.... Having gone through this, I can only say do as much as you can, then go home and let it go..... You have to find some sort of peace inbetween times....
It was during this time, I started having all of those heart problems.... Stress will take over, and your body can't take it. I had palpitations... wore heart monitors, and all because the stress will take over your life. It gradually went away,. a couple years after they both passed. But I felt like passing-out every day! Even after my Dad's funeral.... This stays with you, until YOUR body can heal.
And just try and not get involved with your Daughter too much.... she is on her own train-ride right now.... she'll come out okay.... maybe a lot going on in her life too....
And your BROTHERS? I would go find them and kick them in the butt, and sit them down and tell them the WAY it is going to BE from now on! Either YOU are taking over, or they are going to HELP you do it! If it's too much for them to handle, then STAY OUT OF THE WAY!
I'm thinking of you Maddy.... Love you! xoxoxo
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Did you hear about the Skeleton that walked into a bar and asked for a beer and a mop?
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