Adhesive TAPE - help need to find non-allergic
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Hmmm - appparently it only went on the active thread once, so here it is again.
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So - I posted 3 times in a row to get this important thread to the active list. Apparently you have to wait awhile between posts. Sending again for all the people who need to know about tape.
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My reply did not appear. Will try again:
The information on this thread has been helpful to me. Thanks for keeping it active
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Pessa - you're welcome. Trickling - the founder - did a great job of pulling info together and 17 pages is not too long to read through. Good luck to everyone.
My first line solution, as I posted on another thread, is to carry Hypafix "tape" with me. I've found it on line and in medical supply stores. Second line is Medipore tape, which is good but not the best for me. And there's the rub. Each of us have different skin so it's trial & error to find what's best for you. Unfortunately even paper tape causes problems for me if I leave it on more than an hour or two.
I do believe that every hospital will have an alternative. If you tell they you're allergic to tape, they will try to work with you. Many docs offices do not have a choice, but my infusion center had an alternate product that worked.
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and most hospitals and tx centers should have a barrier cream or lotion available too. Just ask!
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Moon - thanks. I totally forgot to mention Applicare & can't remember the name of the other one, but this thread is not that long so hopefully people who have similar problems can skim through & get all the suggestions.
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Bumping this thread for kbt and anyone else who could benefit from all the good ideas.
The two barrier film threads I know about are Applicare & Cavilon.
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Bumping for adhesive issues!
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May I recommend to anyone facing this issue, to consult with an allergist? Perhaps those docs would be able to pinpoint the precise irritant and be able to recommend a product that would not cause a reaction
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- Yes, Candles, that's a good idea! But when you are in tx, you usually find out these things because you've got a problem! And trying to get an appointment can take a awhile. These suggestions are meant to cover during that time frame, so you can be as comfortable as possible while finding out why they bother you. As I've gotten farther from treatment, my problems are fading a bit. I can wear a bandaid for 24 hours now, before reacting. So yay! LOL.
- I have no idea why my post is numbering my paragraphs, LOL!
- Much love!
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I have a dermatologist that I see every 6 months. I have an allergist. Tape pulls off my skin - even paper tape - so all my docs have worked to find products that doesn't cause that problem.
That means I use Hypafix or Medipore tape, and I carry it with me in case some doc offices don't have it. And I also carry Aplicare or Cavillon - the individually packaged prep to wipe on before applying any tape. Most hospitals & infusion centers carry one of these - but you have to ask & insist & require them to dig it out.
Oh, I did do OK with the surgical strips that close surgery wounds, so that was a positive thing.
Good to see you Moon.
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I had an open wound from implant removal that became infected. It remained open for weeks to heal. I too cannot tolerate tape. I started wearing a maxi pad for your periods in my camisole or sports bra. This way the adhesive is on my clothes, it provides the protection for the area of skin, and stays in place. They are thin and comfortable too. If it is too large or has those "wings", just trim down with scissors. Hoping this works for you too.
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Meadow - thanks. Mini or Maxi pads are always a great idea. And as you say, the adhesive attaches to your clothes and not your skin. The BS actually recommended that I bring some to the hospital when I had my mastectomy. Needless to say, the surgeon was female.
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lol, very good MinusTwo!
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Bumping and LOL to @ MinusTwo @Moonflwr912 and all those who keep this thread going.
Most importantly I keep the following HOW TO APPLY barrier links handy. I understand that even veteran medical staff sometimes do not apply barrier films correctly.
1) 3M™ Cavilon™ No Sting Barrier Film: Usage & Application
2) Tegaderm™ Film 1683 App with Cavilon™ No Sting Barrier Film
3) Advantages of swab applicator
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Trickling - GREAT to hear from you. I haven't been as vigilant in bumping as I should have. Good videos.
Yes - Cavilon is what most the major hospitals around here have in stock. It works like a charm in the infusion center. When they accessed my port, if they didn't use a barrier film, my skin was pulled off when the infusion was finished. One hospital used Aplicare skin protectant prep pads.. I liked those better, but it's harder to get as an individual patient unless you buy a case of 500 or some such. I now carry some of the individual pads in my satchel whenever I go to the doc. It's so great to have found something that keeps my skin from coming off with the bandage.
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And because it appears I have been lax since last April, I'll bump again.
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And one more bump.
This is such a serious subject. You have to request a barrier wipe from the nurse or doc. I've never seen one who asked or offered. And 1/2 of them don't seem to know what I'm talking about. I always keep one in my back pack, along with one of the two special "tapes" - Hypafix or Medipore.
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>>> ALERT <<< to everyone following or visiting this thread and with special thanks to veteran poster, MinusTwo, for her >> post of August 14, 2017 << ("This is such a serious subject . . I've never seen line [nurse or doc] who asked or offered [barrier wipes]. And 1/2 of them don't seem to know what I'm talking about. . .")
Yes! YES! Yes! Please be respectfully aggressive in trying to insure the best possible care regarding your unique adhesive reactions.
Hooray for *** SERENDIPITY = My history + your nitty gritty post, MinusTwo, prompted me to take aggressive action AND is the reason I am taking this public step of sharing with everyone an incident, still unfolding.
>>> I cannot encourage strongly enough for each of you to try sharing the nitty gritty aspects of our experiences. Some nitty gritty thing, which may seem insignificant, may turn out to be ever so much help for someone else. In that spirit, here's some recent nitty gritty., practical details.
Over the weekend, I received a call from my PCP, who stated that I should have a needled biopsy of my LB based on studies of my MRIs. As directed, I contacted the proper department Monday morning (Aug 14); but, had to leave a voicemail.
*** SERENDIPITY = delay of reply by medical scheduling staff. This delay resulted in the opportunity for me to face the reality of my adhesive tape allergy situation: 1) someone in remission but 2) with no progress regarding assistance in addressing my adhesive tape allergic reactions and 3) the actual approach of 4) the ever looming situation of the need for the usage of adhesives.
%%% AGGRESSIVE ACTION = I personally ordered 3M Cavilon No Sting Barrier Film (See my video post of August 13, 2017.) from Amazon. I chose to order the applicator form. I also decided to enroll in $ Amazon PRIME (I had been toying with this notion for a long while regarding many of my art supplies.) for fast delivery.
*** As SERENDIPITY would have it, I located an Internet source for 3M Kind Removal Silicone Tape, samples of which had been advertised over the last few years (and referred to on this BC thread) and which had been requested by 2 of my doctors from two different institutions at two different times; BUT, samples of which were never received.
%%% AGGRESSIVE ACTION = Despite the shipping costs ($1.95 tape, $4.95 standard 3-6 days shipping) and not knowing how my skin would react, I ordered a 1 in roll of 3M Kind Removal Silicone Tape.
*** SERENDIPITY = continued delay of reply by medical scheduling staff.
%%% AGGRESSIVE ACTION = Yesterday, I used my medical portal for messaging my PCP. I specifically requested that she include as part of her written authorization referral (I have an HMO plan) that 3M Cavilon No Sting Barrier Film be used during my needle biopsy procedure.
** SERENDIPITY = This morning, I received a call by a medical scheduling staff person who was sensitive and willing to do follow-up.
%%% AGGRESSIVE ACTION = I respectfully inquired of the medical scheduling staff person if 3M Cavilon No Sting Barrier Film would be available for use during my procedure.
** SERENDIPITY = The medical scheduling staff person was sensitive and willing to do follow-up
%%% AGGRESSIVE ACTION = I respectfully but firmly stated that I would not be able to schedule the needle biopsy procedure until I was assured of the use of 3M Cavilon No Sting Barrier Film or a comparable product. It is my understanding that 3M Cavilon is not an esoteric product but apparently a somewhat often guarded "secret" relative to patients.
** SERENDIPITY = The medical scheduling staff person continued to be sensitive and assured me of a follow-up within a few days.
LOL, Trickling
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Trickling - GOOD for you. Sorry you have to have the biopsy. Great that you are advocating for yourself. I will look forward to hearing about good results - both from the biopsy and from the new 3M Kind Removal Silicone Tape.
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Kudos to the medical staffing nurse I referred to in my post of August 15, 2017. She went to the director of her department and actually pleaded the case for 3M Cavilon No Sting Barrier Film.
We are well aware that institutional bureaucracy is no little matter. Fortunately, that powerful force was effectively dealt with by her persistent advocacy for the need for specific attention to allergic reactions to adhesive. A needle biopsy is a small incision and the department handling needle biopsies gears its supplies to meet the needs of the large number of patients that pass through.
Therefore, our kind of [adhesive allergies] advocacy is a wave maker, a BLIP on a radar screen that is usually without blips. Hence, barrier films or the like are not stocked by the department. Furthermore, the powerful structure of bureaucracy, which does not encourage exchange of supplies among departments, is formidable.
Add kudos to the director, who was willing to listen with the sensitivity which enabled him to at least take time to check the department's bureaucratic listing of permissible supplies and follow through by ordering some 3M Cavilon No Sting Barrier Film.
I detail these steps in the hopes that everyone (patients, caretakers, low level staff) will try to make an explicit effort to make sure to bleep BLIP bleep in every possible situation -- if for other reason than statistical purposes, i.e., appearing in hitherto unrecognized numbers on the radar screen of bureaucracy.
Our recognizable presence is imperative. By now, you are probably thinking, as I did. What if a product were not already on the list? What if the particular product were difficult to order? What if the situation admitted no time for order processing?
Recall, I had actually declared my unwillingness to go through with the procedure unless I were assured of 3M Cavilon No Sting Barrier Film or similar product. I kept secret my determination to personally order this product. Patients being forced to provide medical products is not the answer and perpetuates a restrictive system. Maybe some of you have encountered these obstacles?
Fortunately, things worked out for me -- this time. People who shared on this thread and those who shared on YouTube were a huge force enabling me to proceed in such fashion.
I have shared these nitty gritty steps so that others may consider taking steps they otherwise might not take. I urge you to take the time to share on this and other threads the nitty gritty of your experiences in your own way.
BTW, I learned that the medical processing nurse will actually be my nurse during the procedure next week! Believe me: next week, I will not hesitate to do my part in personally acknowledging her pivotal role in enabling this procedure to take place.
LOL
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@ MinusTwo Sincere thanks.
While it looks like Steri Strips will be employed. I intend to perform a self-test using 3M Kind Removal Silicone Tape both alone and in conjunction with 3M Cavilon No Sting Barrier Film.
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Trickling! Good for you! Stick with it! (Pun intended) LOL
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This is not quite on topic of what to do for tape for securing needles but it is an idea for securing a bandage over a cut without using an adhesive tapee if on finger, wrist, arm, foot, ankle or leg.
I'm not allergic to adhesive but with a life long abuse of my skin by being outdoors so much and getting older (71 now), my skin has gotten rather fragile causing issues with tape pulling the skin off when it is removed.
Back in Feb I got a fairly 'good' ( about 1 1/2" x 2") skin tear on my arm from BugsaMus (my mini Rex). I got some huge (knee size) waterproof bandaides to use on it. The first I got were by NexCare and didn't have any issues with them. When I ran out, couldn't find any NexCare so got Band-Aid brand. Well, the first time I removed the Band-Aid it took all the skin under one end of it - so then had another 1 1/2" x 2" skin tear next to Bugs tear. Had to come up with something that would cover them but not tear off more skin. Used nonstick pads (yes they can stick but a few minutes of soaking with mild espom salts solution got them 'un-stuck'). To keep in place I wrapped VetWrap (same thing can now be gotten in 'human stores' but a lot pricier) around arm. It doesn't stick to skin - only itself. So in other words, if something needs to be covered and it is where it can be wrapped around, a nonstick pad over it and then wrap VetWrap around where it is to hold in place/secure it.
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Kicks - great idea. I keep forgetting about that stuff even though many clinics use it now. I would never have thought to check a pet store, but I'm sure there 's a big price difference.
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@ Kicks Glad to hear you figured out a way to get back in the running (as in the Kentucky Derby) using VetWrap for those torn areas of skin. Thanks for the heads up regarding Vet supplies as a possible alternative and the tip about Espsom salts. You are on target: this thread is not restricted to needled areas but to any situation that normally involves the use of an adhesive.
?? Can you elaborate a little more about BugsaMus, your mini Rex, for us? I plugged it in to Google without success.
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@ Moonflwr912 Funny, funny :-)
If anyone thinks they have even the tiniest lead to a tape version of the adhesive used in HYDROCOLLOID ADVANCED WOUND CARE (See the introduction to this entire adhesive thread), give a shout, here.
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@ Kicks BTW, you might want to look into HYDROCOLLOID ADVANCED WOUND CARE. Aside from the the non-irritating aspect of this product, it is known for its ability to improve healing and remain in place for relatively long periods of time.
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Also place non stick pad on wound and if it's a limb you can use that circular netted stuff. (It looks like a hair net but shaped like a tube) it comes in different sizes and my Surgery nurse fit it over my trunk to hold dressings after bmx. I havent seen trunk size tubing in store but maybe a wound clinic has some. I bet it would even hold in swell spots or pads for lymphedema swelling.
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BugsaMus (or Buggsy) is my 4 y/o, 3 lb 2 oz, broken black mini Rex bunny. What that means is he is black on his head and along his back and down his sides a bit and white everywhere else so he is a black but not solid black as it is 'broken' by the white. A Mini Rex is a rabbit breed that has been bred down to be smaller than a Rex which is not a large breed anyway as it usually goes about 5+ lbs. Though they can be used for their meat there isn't much on them and there are a lot of much larger breeds that are for meat primarily. Rex 'claim to fame' is their coat. It is like feeling velvet - they have no guard hair (the longer courser hair). The Rex are a coat mutation that was found in the 1880's in France. Rabbits usually have between 12 - 15 hair from each follicle but Rex have between 50 - 60 per follicle. They have fantastic personalities and are very 'people orientated'. BugsaMus loves to just sit on my lap or lay beside me when I'm laying on the couch for hours. (In the 4 yrs I've had him the only time he has peed or pooped while being handled was on the way home from the Fair when I got him.). He walks on a leash - not as good as a dog but MUCH better than a cat will. He get a mani/pedi weekly with a small Dremel type tool. He lives in his nice house inside year round so he has no idea what it is to be hot or cold. He has a big clear plastic ball that he gets to go outside in and roll around the yard and no nasty cats/dogs can get at him. He has a carry case so he can go when I go fishing or whatever.. He's a spoiled brat but my my 'schnuggle bunny'
I've probably given more info about Mini Rex than anyone really wanted but then I get quite 'wordy' at times. Just remembered - if anyone wants to see some neat stuff rabbits can do - google Rabbit Agility. It's like Dog Agility but with rabbits.There are lots of places that VetWrap can be gotten. Pet Stores are definalely an option, your Vet's store (if your Vet has a store at their clinic). If you live where there are feed stores or Ranch/Farm stores they are usually the cheapest. Just got a roll of 2" VetWrap at Running s the other day for $2.09. Lots of pretty colors too! I get my betadine there and disposables gloves (hand and shoulder length).
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