Single life after a mastectomy

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  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

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  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    yes Jazz totally agree he is a bastard lol I am only sad for my niece in law cuz she waisted 5 years with him but I am happy she will move on now.  I don't think she knows he is a cheat though. I hope she leave his sorry a s s and finds someone else.  

    What I hate is that my sister and brother in law were thinking it's her who is the cause of the problem so I cleared out lol 

    Now they know he is an idiot.  They now lose a daughter it's sucks. 

    I got a msg from my dear friend asking me what i am up to?  I told him not much. He says he has a private board class but will let me know when he is done if I want to go grab a coffee or ice cream lol so if he does I will go, why not this guy makes me laugh and takes me back in time to when we were silly 20 year olds lol 

    I ll letvyou all know if I meet him or not. 

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

    Enerva- go have some ice creme or the like with the young man. It is nice to have some quality male companionship even if you are not ready to formally date. Never mind people we can be silly with.

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

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  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    well I am hopping he does msg me,  it's still early 7:40pm his class is till 8 pm so ll see if he doesn't forget or back out lol 

    He sent me a msg from his mom s place saying she would love to see me soon. I love his mom I used to call her mom when we met 21 years ago I am surprised she remembered it lol he told her we reconnected last week n she told him,  she remembers how wild I was n how he used to copy all my math work lol he says he passed cuz of me ha ha ha I used to go over his mom and scream from outside mom! Mom! Is paul here?  lol she could look out the window and scream back I am not your mom and yes he ll be out in a minute ha ha ha I will get her # and address cuz i want to visit her. He said she lives in a condo by herself now. His dad die five years ago. Him and his sister got his mom a small condo. It breaks my heart to know she is also alone now. Funny how things change in 20 years I am sure I ll have a great time with her. I am so good with old people as if I myself am one old soul too. Wierd 

  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    no msg girls so no going anywhere it's 9 pm 

    Oh well just the usual man says something does something else lol 

    I made a tiramizu just now hummm tmw I will enjoy a piece ;) 

  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    BB, yes I already told him about bc, we are great friends and I am sure he is not into me lol at least he does not show he could be so I am ok with that. 

    I hope bdavis is with the new love and things are working out for her ;) 

    Hey bb, do you have fb? I recently opened one account I will send you the info.

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

    Enerva- sorry you did not hear from that fellow. Maybe something came up and you will hear from him again soon. In the mean time, the tiramizu sounds yummy! 

    Went to the pool to swim and that felt good. I use the scales there to monitor my weight. I am up three pounds from the vaca so I am taking your advice Enerva, and no carbs after 2 p.m. Will let you know how it works for me.

  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    oh it will work ;) 

    Yes tiramizu for Tmw before 2pm lol  

    No I don't go on fb much I actually deactivated my original account but opened one for craft stuff lol like my crochet for babies lol and I have seem so many beautiful ideas now. 

    Yes my friend probably got something else going, can't blame him it's Saturday and normal people are having a night out lol 

    Will hear from him soon I bet. Specially cuz of his mom I need to meet her soon, take her out to a nice garden place I used to go. And get some organics fruits up there. 

    It's more fun when you go with someone than going alone.

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

    BB- my mother had first alert and when she had her stroke, it did not really help her as she did not realize what was happening and did not press the button. The cleaning woman happened to come that day and found her in a chair unconscious. I wonder how much that actually Life Alert helps people? I saw that commercial tonight too, it does get your attention.

    Enerva- I like the idea of going with the mom to the garden and/or to get some fruit. Gotta make your own fun and not wait for people to reach out to us sometimes. Maybe you need to call her and ask her? I am going to the farmers market tomorrow and meeting up with a friend there who has been wanting to checking this one particular one out. Usually I go alone, but lately, some friends like to meet there. 

    I am an exciting girl tonight doing laundry. I am happy to be home from my travels though and like settling in again. Going to bed soon and wishing you all sweet dreams.

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

    BB- I think when you are not working, everything can overwhelm you. This may sound strange, but when everything was coming apart for me in 2012 and I had the chance to pick up a new contract ( I was still to do my rads treatment), it actually stabilized my life in many respects. But working while you are going through treatment and after is hard. There are pros and cons to every way we go through this.

    I am on the generic, anastrozole. I started March of last year (2013) so not even quite a year and a half yet, and supposed to do five years. Some question of longer, but not sure I will be willing to compromise by bone health for that. 

    And you asked if I noticed any SEs? I had a lot of problems with my feet, but went off it for a month and that is better (although my feet still get stiff). Joint stiffness too. Your skin with thin out with this too, including vaginal tissue. 

    My gyn noticed during my pelvic exam last year I had a lot of irritation that comes with the thinning of the skin in the netherlands. She perscribed a small about of estrogren creme (called estrace) to help with things there. She said the bladder can get compromised to on this med, so she instructed me to ensure the opening to the urethra got some creme once a week. She said if I was to be sexual again, I will need some sort of other solution. I think a vaginal ring that applies estrogen to the area. The docs are usually okay with this, they just don't want your full body getting the dose of estrogen if you are ER positive. Talk to your gyn next visit about your pelvic health and what to expect going forward?

    I am just starting to feel better about my body. Taken almost two years since it all went down for that to happen, year and a half almost since I finished rads. Scares are fading, and think with a few more pounds lost, I will be even more open. People tell me I am looking healthier and that feels positive. Right now I am working on my well being.

    That being said, the men I have met even prior to BC seem to be either JUST interested in sex or just want to be friends. One extreme or the other. I think I would be more inspired to intimate with someone who really likes me for me. Trying to be open to that.

    And please don't be too hard on yourself. We are all damaged and broken in some way. You have had much to deal with and still have more surgery to do. So you are still in the thick of it. My major treatment ended back in March 2013. It takes a long time to feel better from all this. Be patient and kind with yourself. 

    Hugs sister.

  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    hi all I went for walk with a girlfriend and her dog it was nice but it reminded me the commitment it is to have a dog lol I am not ready for it lol he was so hyper he barked a lot wile in the car and just wanted attention all the time ha ha I tire him up for her lol

    Runed Hom up and down made him swim in the lake Haha I bet once they got home he went straight to bed lol

    It's beautiful out here, came back and put a few vegetable to cook and salmon in the oven,  took a cigarette from her and just had it in my balcony ha ha felt good and bad at the same time run to brush my mouth twice n hand I just miss it but can't really get in to it which is a good thing but sometimes feel like been a bad ass. 

    Hope you are having a great day, never heard from my buddy today, or well that's that. ;) 

    bb, I hear that tamoxifen also has those Se, so maybe it's the mess that is causing you to feel off now. I am so glad I am not in any hormone medication, my body somehow is low on Er, all by itself it just did it. I guess I am lucky that way.

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

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  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    lol yaaaa so true jazz

    freaking universe lol

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

    BB- oh dear about your hair. I know the AIs can cause hair loss. I had a lot of hair loss during my surgeries, but it got better after awhile. I do think my  hair is generally less full than it used to be, but I eat a lot of protein and that is good for hair growth. Keratin hair products are good for thickening hair, but not sure what you can do about baldness. Maybe you need to find someone who is experienced with styling around hair loss? 

    I was on the arimidex thread for awhile (still pop in every once and awhile) and remember some women talking about hair loss there. Are you on that thread? Might be a good way to ask what other women are doing?

    Now that I understand all the things estrogen did to help my body, I wish I had not cursed it for all the years I did when I wanted my period to be over with. My PCP used to say you want to keep your estrogen as long as you can. She knew.

  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    some one posted this in the insomnia tread, I wish I could do it :( 

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  • grayeyes
    grayeyes Member Posts: 533
    edited July 2014

    Wow, this forum has been active.  I had to do a lot of reading to catch up.  :-)

    On the subject BB & Jazzy are talking about:  I hesitated to comment earlier on estrogen-inhibitors and SEs.  It's such a personal matter, and I don't want to put very personal info out here.  But, I do wonder if the SEs many women experience are really caused by the lowering of estrogen, or if they're caused more by stress and depression. 

    The reason I wonder is that I haven't had the SEs we've been warned about.  First, the chemo put me into early menopause.  Then I was on Tamoxifen for 2-1/2 years, and I had an oophorectomy.  Now I'm on arimidex (really it's anastrozole).  So far, aside from the hot flashes - there's no SE at all (knock on wood).  It's like I never even went into menopause, had my ovaries removed, or took estrogen-inhibitors.

    So, BB, I'm thinking that, once your life turns a corner, and your ex finally backs off (hopefully), and you meet someone special, you might feel much better, and you'll become interested in dating again.  Just my .02.  :-)

    (For the record, I'm not interested in dating now because, just like E, I kind of see all men as liars and cheats.  But, that doesn't have anything to do with side effects.  It's more about the issue of trust for me.)

    Goodnight, all!

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

    Life- I think you are right on about some of your insights. I am also glad you have not had the SE's from the meds. I think women all have different experiences with them from no SE's to severe ones. All my SE's I have been able to cope, with and feel I have a good quality of life.

    I am less interested in dating right now, because I am still trying to get things put back together after an unbelievable year in 2012. I am now just getting around to taking care of some things at my home I have not been able to get to since before my diagnosis. Did the minimum, but now getting to many other things. But along with you and Enerva, I don't trust much either. I did not have much tolerance for the BS before, now I really don't. I don't tolerate it well from anyone beyond that either. Life is too short and unpredictable to be wasting my time with people who don't care.

    A new week begins and going to get busy today getting my house ready to be painted starting next Monday. Wishing everyone here a good start to the new week. May something nice happen for all of you this week!

  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    happy Monday!!  

    Jazz be careful when painting, hope you are letting someone else do it. I did all the reno in my apt by myself and it was very hard. Now I know I just don't have the strength lol I could not even paint my place again by myself. 

    Bb I just remember something else, one of my sisters hair a few years back started to thin out and she was so stress, it turn out she had very low iron, have they check your iron lately, just something to keep in mind, me I always have to take 300mg iron pills for a few months then go of it but I now seam ok I have low iron reserves but I also take biotin which you can get over the counter for the hair. I always forget to mention it.

    Hope your hair gets back to normal soon. Don't worry it could be temporary likewise says must be stress too.

    Well I am going to study and see how the day unfold ;)

    MILKYWAY hope you are doing ok with the pain in your abdomen 

    Talk to you ladies later 

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

    Enerva- I am having a painting company do the job. Much of my house has vaulted ceilings and no way I will get up on a ladder to do that. They have asked me to put away the breakables, get the pics off the wall, they will move around any of the furniture they need to to get access. They are doing the living room, kitchen/dining area and master bedroom. Phase 1. The bathrooms and 2 additional bedrooms don't have vaulted ceilings and can do some of that myself, but next year. Or I may bring them back for it. 

    Good luck studying!

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

    Lots of nice rain late yesterday with the summer monsoons and the clouds last night at sunset were beautiful (I took a walk and enjoyed the views everywhere). Just to share with you what it looks like where I live.

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  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    OMG I love it!!!!  

    I am so wanting To go on a road trip lol 

  • Stix
    Stix Member Posts: 610
    edited July 2014

    Post more pics. It is beautiful

  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    i agree with Stix,  let as see more lol 

    Today I ll meet a bc sister she ll meet me by the lake yaaaa I love to walk around there ;) I ll ask her to take a picture n ll post later 

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

    From the storms sat night.

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  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

    Probably the best one I have seen this year. 

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  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    wow, scary did u take those? Amazing, last night here rain was pretty bad. Power went off twice 

  • jazzygirl
    jazzygirl Member Posts: 11,974
    edited July 2014

    No, all of them came of group pages on FB in my city. I stay far away from lightening. We top the nation in lightening deaths.

    Did you hear about the people out in CA on Venice Beach that got struck by lightening yesterday? Several died. T-storms are unusual for California and it seemed to come out of nowhere.

  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 2,985
    edited July 2014

    OMG, here last week a guy was struck he was on a golf course and he past away. 

    So I finally met milkyway, we went to walk brother lake and she made me broke my diet lol we went to anyplace and eat so late I am feeling guilty now lol here she took a few pictures of me lol

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    It was great meeting her she made me laugh, she has a great attitude and smile. Lol

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  • grayeyes
    grayeyes Member Posts: 533
    edited July 2014

    Jazzy - I hope the paint job turns out well.

    I reread my post above, and I realize I didn't mention that there was ONE side effect - extreme hot flashes.  But, now I think those were related to the early menopause.  I started getting them while on chemo before I started Tamoxifen.  I'm sure the Tamox prolonged them, but I don't get them anymore, at least not that I've noticed.

    But, I wanted to put out the idea that maybe some of the SEs are related to other things.  I realize some SEs are caused by the meds, though, so I don't want to diminish what anyone else is experiencing.  I just wanted to offer a different thought that hopefully is a positive one - if it's true, it would mean that some of the SEs we experience at first could be reversed later, even as we continue with the medicine.  (At least I hope so!)

    What a beautiful picture above of the road, Jazzy. 

    So sad about those people at Venice Beach.  Every day the news has another terrible story.  It's almost unbearable to read sometimes.  :-(