Hot Flash Forum!
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Interesting, do you think I can ask my employer for straight days seeings that nite shift has been detrimental to my health???? HMMMMM
Still waiting to hear the miracle sleep cure ladies! Would love to know what works best. UGH, I can't stand the sweats at nite, the day I can tolerate! Why do they seem to just go crazy at nite?? I don't get that!
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Craisydaisy-------------If we knew, we wouldn't be here, we 'd be dry and asleep-----------
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http://news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/12.07/11-dairy.html
something new to bum us out. Always chose milk as drink of choice over junk drinks.
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I just found this topic....lots to read and catch up on but I wanted to respond to susieq88 from page 1.....yes, I do find that having to pee and hot flashes go hand in hand. The onset wakes me up so I have to suffer while I pee. During the day if I need to go I also have a flash.
I forgot who mentioned the fan...I also have a little white fan on a plant stand blowing on my body all night. It would be lots harder to make it though the night without the fan. I also have one on my vanity, in the kitchen, at work...I have paper fans everywhere.
I could not take effexor so my doc put me on low dose BP meds called Clondine. I think all it does is keep my heart from racing away when I am flashing.
I have found that if I eat a very healthy diet then I have an easy day but if I eat junk food or something with perservatives then it is gonna be a bad day. Anyone else think this?
Thanks for starting this topic. Good to share with others who are suffering. A woman who has never experienced a flash don't have a clue what we go through. It is not like just getting hot from the temperature....it is a heat from our core...like the oven was turned up to 500 degrees.
I will read the other responses when I have time.
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Linda54 Welcome. You know the saying. Misery loves company. My Dr. put me on Clonidine for the hot flashes (it's way back near the beginning of this thread), and I thought that it worked very briefly. I now know that it does not. However, some of the listed benefits of the Clonidine were anti-anxiety (which I am overdosing on now) and headache reduction. It's been over a month since I have had to take any migraine medication. Given that, I have decided to stay on a very low dose of the Clonidine.
sas Thank-you for the wise and caring advise regarding the Valium
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Hillck-----I'm even more bummed that article was published in DEC 2006. It should have been a Public Health Warning issued from some agency. You noticed that at the end of the article they said they were going to lay low. It was fascinating that the Mongolians to empirically figure this out and have been doing it for 2 thousand years. That's HUGE.
TO ALL---read the above hyperlink.-----How it affects us is-----what if on days we drink milk that is estrogen loaded and it's fighting with the antiestrogenic drugs we take, would that have any impact on flashing. We have pretty much agreed that alcohol has an impact and sugary drinks. Now we may have to make choices about milk.
I'm going to add the hyperlink here and re-post it on a couple of threads. i added some moore thoughts so it will look like a double post, but it's not
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A few seconds ago sas-schatzi wrote:
2 minutes ago, edited a few seconds ago by sas-schatzi wrote: I'm re-postig this from another thread. tested hyperlink. There are implications , not just for us, but all women and childern males as well as females. Children being exposed to high levels of estrogen. Could explain why early onset puberty has been such a problem. AND newborns being born that have signs of going through puberty.
Hillck-----I'm even more bummed that article was published in DEC 2006. It should have been a Public Health Warning issued from some agency. You noticed that at the end of the article they said they were going to lay low. It was fascinating that the Mongolians to empirically figure this out and have been doing it for 2 thousand years. That's HUGE.
TO ALL---read the below hyperlink.-----How it affects us is-----what if on days we drink milk that is estrogen loaded and it's fighting with the antiestrogenic drugs we take, would that have any impact on flashing. We have pretty much agreed that alcohol has an impact and sugary drinks. Now we may have to make choices about milk.
Another thought the government has NOT dealt with the public impact of what this article identifies. Guess it's not politically correct.
I'm going to add the hyperlink here and re-post it on a couple of threads.
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Hillck--------well look at the Reticular Activating system in the medulla--google. Then look at what brain area the drug effects. Also, you say you sweat so much i'm guessing you have wet sheets >>>yes or no>>>. So dry sheets/ deep sleep/ suggest no flashing
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Hillck just wiped out my response by looking at Omaz's link before submit-------boo hoo
Go back to our discussion a page ago and look for the post about The RAS. That I said was an interesting clue. It will make more sense now that you know more about the RAS. It was in our discussion about Freedmans article.
The medulla/hypothalamus/thalamus/pituitary are so connected. Then add in the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems and blood vessels it's mind boggling (pun intended). Temperature regulating mechanism is in the medulla too
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Omaz--------technical yes , but it supports what Ganmaa says in a much less technical way. Pooper, I have always described myself as a milkolholic. I guess I will immediately make a change, but don't know what to use.
Lesson learned I had re-posted that post to multiple sites , some people keyed into the sugar/alcohol. Here people would get the point b/c they have been apart of the discussion all along. I had to go back and re-edit all the places I posted it. Pain in the patutty.
I still pose the question? Would a day, that I'm on a milkoholic day affect my estrogen levels enough that then when they drop after the day would that contribute to flashing? Whew, that's pretty esoteric and out there or is that redundant.
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sas - GOAT MILK???0
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Omaz-----Goat milk is worth a research. It's been used for thousands of years. I do have a little experience with it for my Dad when he was ESRD. The canned stuff smells like an old foot. The carton stuff isn't bad.
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I love goat yogurt!!!
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Omaz --------Who makes goat yogurt?
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It's gotta be good for you because those goats are sooo cute!!
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Omaz super -------sounds good.
I'm not happy at all about this milk issue . It should have been page one-----------For children , it could be the major contributor to precocious puberty and leading to hormonal problems in boys. AS well as what it means to women of all ages.-------Bummer. Well time for meds too sleep , but they won't work for awhile.
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My hot flashes have gotten worse in the last couple of weeks. But I was reading on this thread that sugar can cause it. I think that is my problem. I was really eating healthy no sugar, no refined carbs, lots of veges, grains and meat. and some carbs but the more healthy ones. Well I am going to have a MX and reconstruction and I have to gain weight so I thought sugar would be good as it is empty calories. Thinking about it now that is when my hot flashes started up again. I have had them off and on but not too bad and never thought of the correlation between the two. I do notice that if I drink more than one glass of wine I also have hot flashes. Will have to rethink how to eat more calories for this weight gain. My surgery is not for six months and I cannot live with the hot flashes that long. Daytime is OK but I need my sleep.
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I've been taking Ambien CR for almost 2 years now. If I take it alone I always wake up several times a night from hot flashes. If I take painkillers in the evening a few hours beforehand, I sleep through the night. Which I've started doing these past few weeks. And the funny thing is, these days I'm only getting 5-6 hours of sleep a night, but I feel so much more well rested than before - waking up every few hours really does leave you exhausted the next day. OK, painkillers and sleep aids are probably not the best combination, but after a lifetime of insomnia, this is bliss.
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I've been taking Ambien CR - 12.5 mg for a couple of years now. It didn't make a difference one way or the other with my night sweats.
About the milk study...it stated that green leafy vegetables are another way to get our calcium, but it just doesn't sound as appealing to me to have lettuce with my cookie instead of milk
Oh, there's just so much to learn. Thank you so much for all of this good info Sas-Schatzi
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The milk study is very interesting and very discouraging. I like hillck just switched to organic milk thinking it was a better option even though I only use it in my coffee. I've had an aversion to goat milk products since my first pregnancy so that's not an option. Even the thought of it in my coffee
yuck. Seems like no matter what you do, you can't win even when you try really really hard. 0 -
Wen I just bought some plain rice milk, not bad.
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Hot Flashes have gone away for me with increases in my Prozac. I increased 10mg and experienced half as many flashes daily (20), and recently just increased another 10mg and haven't had a single hot flash in 2 days.
My friend is on Effexor and has been for years. Her Hot Flashes are hourly and killing her. She's ready to take estrogen. Not a BC survivor like us.
I say prayers to God that they don't come back.
Hugs,
Kat
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sas I have been using soy milk for cereal. It's not good in coffee, and isn't the same if you use it to make pancakes etc. I don't think there is any good substitute for real milk in those situations. If you try the rice milk to bake with, let me know 0
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Just stopping in to say the hot flashes continue with a VENGENCE! OY
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Katarina...are you taking Tamox? Prozac and Tammy interact...
wenweb: I too switched to organic post-BC but realize now I have to give it up. I do use Almond milk when baking since DH is lactose intolerant and it substitutes very well for milk. I also use it (unsweetened) on cereal.
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Wen I'm not cooking much, But I did use home made rice milk, when I made it for my mom in 1996. Basically, high number of eggs custard. Trying to keep her cholesterol up b/c of questran. Iatrogenic induced diarrhea post hospital acquired c-diff Cdiff eradicated but they destroyed her bowel took months to heal.. I used to boil Uncle ben's till it was mush, blenderized it till liquid with cooking water. Therefore, there were no persatives. Did it every couple of days. I forget everything I used it in, but everything I cooked for her, it was used in.
Ren----thank goodness we have you as our resident drug person!!!!!! Let me re-phrase that person knowledgeable about drugs!!!!!!!
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I have used almond milk for cereal and cooking, but not for "drinking". I tried unsweetened cocoa-nut milk and it didn't have much of a taste, so it was like putting water on my cereal, not so good. I just tried Hemp unsweetened vanilla and it was very good on cereal.
Is there a "list" of supplements that are contraindications for tamoxifen? If yes, where would I find it?
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I am so tired of hot flashes. sigh.
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