Hot Flash Forum!
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Ren - Basically you boil the milk, wait till it cools to 110 degrees then mix 1 jar of store bought yogurt and a couple cups of the warm milk then mix it all together and pour into the jars. Let it stew for about 10 hours or so (the machine has a timer). I used 1% for the newest batch and it's not super thick like greek yogurt but a delicate custard type composition with a mild flavor.0
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My latest discovery at the market - cultured almond milk, in other words yogurt made from almond milk. It's pretty good. I drink almond milk all the time. They also had cultured coconut milk, but the fat content was higher. You can find almost anything out there if you have the right place to look!
My HF's are better through the night for some reason, possibly because the weather is cooling off and it isn't 90 all night anymore. I didn't take my Effexor at the usual time yesterday, and felt funny in the late afternoon and evening, feverish, dizzy,etc. I usually take it in the AM but got the rx refill about 5 and took immediately. Maybe I'm reading too much into it and it was dehydration or something. I had the window open and the fan going at bedtime last night - it was 50 degrees out. DH was even shivering. I know it's cool when my hairy corgis cuddle up to stay warm!
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supersally -- where did you find the cultured almond milk/yogurt?
~lulubee
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I was wondering the same thing! Supersally: Whole Foods? Trader Joes?0
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Linda
I behaved ! And I am barely flashing !
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Great news ShannonR ..... I am still doing good too!!!....I can tell when I have messed up and then I get mad at myself....
Omaz ... I went to check out the yogurt making machine.....thinking about it. ...I order from Amazon...thanks for the site
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Thank you Kaitsmom for the suggestion to go to World Market. I found the $4 fans and got 3 of them to start. These are going to travel so much better than my homemade cereal-box fan.
Sometimes, between about noon and 5 pm, I get a break from the every-10-minutes hot flashes. If that holds true today, I have 83 minutes to hang in there until noon. Ha. Hope everyone is having a good (as possible) Monday!
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I got the cultured almond milk, and they also have the cultured coconut milk, at a market called Sprout's that is here in TX. I haven't seen it at WF. We don't have TJ yet, although they are coming I hear. It's pretty good as far as taste, can't really tell a diff between it and cow yogurt. I actually much prefer the almond milk for drinking purposes. I buy the unsweetend with vanilla flavor for cereal.
I feel sweaty and hot all the time! I thought it would be better when the weather cooled down, and it is. But I just get a hot flash and I don't seem to cool off. Also, the Tamox seems to give me an energy buzz? Anyone else? I notice that I have super energy in the morning after I take my Tami, but that if I forget and take it later, I don't have that. Not sure if it's in my head or for real.
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No energy buzz from the T...I wish. The only thing I like about HF's at this time of year is that when I'm too cold to get out of bed, I only have to wait for a HF, which never takes too long
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This is off-topic for flashes, but it was stated erroneously on this thread that saccharin could lead to bladder cancer. Well, only if you are a rat. Rats have a protein in their urine that led to the overgrowth of cells in their rat bladders. Humans don't have that protein, so if are quite sure you have no rat ancestry, you should be o.k.
Saccharin has been around for over 100 years. While it did get misplaced on the carcinogen list by the FDA for some years, due to the whole rat thing, it was removed from that list about ten years ago. If you are going "natural" and want to avoid it, that's cool; but current data does not support a cancer causation or link if that is the only reason you were avoiding it.
No, I'm not a Sweet-N-Low employee. I do put some in my tea though.
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I think I'll get one or two of those paper fans at World Market tomorrow! Great idea.
Supersally, I get a slight buzz from the Tamox. It affects my sleep, actually (surprise, surprise!) Back before I started Tamox I was taking Wellbutrin, which gave me a similar buzz (tho more of one) and I had to take Xanax at night in order to sleep. I went off the Wellbutrin when I started Tamox, and noticed I still felt a little rev at night. Not much, but it's enough to make me unable to sleep well without Vitamin X. I tried taking Tammy at night but that REALLY was a problem. So yes, in some people I think it can give you some energy. Small miracles!
PS I switched over to unsweetened almond milk too. Coconut milk is also not bad. Both are terrific substitutes for milk when baking. (DH is lactose intolerant so I can't bake with milk anyway.)
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NO MORE HOT FLASHES!
I'm not sure if this will work for everyone, but I wanted to share it anyway. I've been on Tamoxifen for about 6 months. Hot flashes and night sweats started about 2 months in. I decided to change my diet for a number of reasons and opted to cut out flour and sugar. I've noticed that WHEN I DON'T EAT FLOUR OR SUGAR, I DON'T GET HOT FLASHES OR NIGHT SWEATS. I often travel for work and find it hard when on the road to find food without flour or sugar so I usually end up having to it eat a bit. I notice that immediately upon reintroducing sugar/flour to my diet, the hot flashes/night sweats reappear. When I get back home and stop eating flour/sugar, they disappear again.
I know we've all been through a lot already (and giving up flour or sugar on top of everything else may be the last thing you want to do). That said,if you're really desperate for relief from hot flashes/night sweats, I'd consider at least trying to go a week without flour or sugar (I still use honey as a sweetener and eat fruit, potatoes, and brown rice for carbs) and see how it goes.
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kymberlimc...... that's what I've been talking about....the diet!!!....makes a big difference. Like you said...it may not work for everyone. How about leaving off all white stuff....replace white potatoes for sweet potatoes...love them. I am so happy it is working for you. Mine are not totally gone but the few that I have are tolerable. I am not rushing to find a fan.
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Sweet potatoes are tricky for ER/PR+ gals aren't they? B/C of the phytoestrogens? That's why flax is not good for us?
All this diet stuff has me very confused. I feel like I don't even know what I can eat anymore!
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Rennasus, I eat all the phytoestrogens I want and never worry about it. The weak estrogenic properties that they all have can't compare to the stronger stuff made in our bodies and they may even crowd out some of the stronger stuff, actually taking it's place in some of our cells. I know that there are many conflicting theories on this, but this is the one that makes the most sense to me.
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Renn, I struggle with knowing what we "can" and "should" eat, too. My MO told me that phytoestrogens are ok so long as they are dietary and incidental. In other words, don't give up meat to eat only tofu. I know flax, soy, green tea, etc. are controversial and you can really find studies that go either way on many food items if you research it. That said, I still minimize my phytoestrogens, along with white flour, sugar, and processed food. I have also reduced my alcolhol consumption, not that I was a big drinker but one a day was about right on average. Now, I try to limit to 2-3/week. Caffeine, I haven't given up but don't drink anything besides one cup of regular and one cup of half caff Coffee every morning. Unfortunately, I still have hot flashes. At least the weather has cooled off some so I can get some relief outside.
I asked my MO about taking a multi-vitamin, and his response was that he likes his patients to get their vitamins from their diet. Duh! I thought that was sort of a no-brainer. Anyway, he said he thought it was fine. I have chosen at this point not to take anything beyond Biotin, Vitamin C, a multi, and calcium.
I actually did some reserach on the Effexor side effects, which I'm on as a dual drug for hot flashes/anxiety. Interesting to note that sweating and perhaps my increased energy level are possible SE's of the Effexor.
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rgiuff, Supersally, thanks for the info!
I think getting rid of the processed crap has helped me too.
The only vitamin aside from a multi that I am taking is D3. My Internist told me to take it because I was low. I just had some bloodwork done on Tuesday, so we'll see if the D3 the past 3 months has made a difference. I know studies show D deficiency is a BC risk factor too.
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Rennasus, I also take 1000U of D3 as well, and try hard to get my daily omega 3s. I use tumeric powder daily as an anti inflammatory and eat my rainbow of fruits and veggies. Other than this, I don't take any other supplements. Processed food is a very rare occurrence for me to eat. Most meals are made from scratch. And the phytoestrogens just happen to be in many of the most healthy foods, such as beans, fruits, veggies, nuts, whole grains, which is another reason why I indulge in them completely without a second thought. They are good foods for preventing many other illnesses!
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I wish we had a "LIKE" button like on Facebook.....
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rgiuff: Sounds like you are on the perfect nutritional path!
Linda54: I wish we had a "like" button on the boards too! BCO, if you are listenng, we would LOVE a LIKE button!! ;-)
Now that the weather has cooled, I def. see a reduction in my hot flashes. You all?
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No, not me. Hoping they let up though soon. Ugh!
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I think I usually get a reduction in the fall. It seems to be a trend. But then they usually get bad again sometime mid winter, probably because of all the heavy clothes and indoor heat.
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My flashes are better from about Nov. - Mar., without altering my diet, so I always thought it might be the humidity.
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My flashes are definitely better now that it's cooled off some in TX. Still there, but at least I can cool off outside!
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I'm just going to put this out there again as I experience my 15th hot flash of the day. . . Does anyone else feel like they have more flashes when it would have been that time of the month? OMG I've been in chemopause for almost 11 months now and I can tell when it would be about that time without looking at the calendar because the increase in hot flashes is incredible. So. . . Does that mean my ovaries are still pumping out loads of ER??? Or is the increase a result of being ER starved???
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sundermom For what it's worth, I've been in menopause for nearly 8 years, and my HF's wax and wane for no apparent reason.0
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I went through 3 yrs of peri-menopause before my periods compeletly stopped...been post-menopausal for 5 yrs now...so been suffering for 8 yrs too wenweb ....when will it ever stop???
I have not been very disciplined with my diet the last few days and I have been suffering more....today I will do better!!
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Hi everyone. I do hope the trend toward less flashes with cooler weather is real! We shall collectively see!
Sundermom: That is an interesting question. I too was in peri-menopause prior to BC so my periods were already sporatic, so i haven't paid attention to where or not they are clustering at certain times of the month. Something to pay attention to though!
Linda54: Go girl!
Wenweb: How many years of your menopause (of the 8 you've been in already) are drug-induced? Curious. That is a long time to live with HTs.
I had Halloween candy last night and am afraid I will pay today with more HFs...
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Supersally: Just wanted to add that I had increased sweating overall when I was on Effexor.
I will be starting Tamoxifen this week and am nervous. Of course hoping for few mild side effects - we will see!!
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Rennasus I was 6 years into menopause before my BC DX. I do think that the HF's were starting to wane before I started (first) Arimidex and (now) Tamoxifen. My understanding about menopausal related HF's was that they could last for 2-10 years. I was hopeful that they would be ending any minute prior to my DX.
Now, Linda54 I feel like they are NEVER going to end. In the great scheme of things, it's not much to complain about. More of a big annoyance with lots of showers.
I work in the medical field, and about once a year I run into an woman in her 80's who still has HF's. As Murphy's Law would have it, I figured that would be me. The way things are going now, it probably will be
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