Pinktober Revolution
Comments
-
That's what I was thinking, too. Wouldn't that be just as mean? I do understand the anger that pinktober stirs up.
0 -
Traveltext - a picture is worth a thousand words, and you made your point perfectly!
0 -
When I see someone wearing something like that boob scarf, I think it's all about drawing attention to themselves, and not the issue. They think it's good for a laugh, or people will notice them or talk about them like they've done something really cool or outrageous. They are being very egotistical. It's not really about awareness or finding a CURE. It's about them. They want all eyes on them.
0 -
I can understand those wanting to parade around wearing a pair of knitted balls to visually show how offensive and degrading it is to see others wearing scarves with fake breasts attached to them. It is in trying to make a point for some people to see that perhaps they might not comprehend any other way.0 -
You both make good points.
0 -
I think the Divine one is correct-the scarf is about calling attention to the guy who is wearing it and not the cause. I bet his wife has never had BC-no way she would let him march around wearing that. Actually, even money the guy does not have a wife, because even before BC there is no way I'd let my spouse wear something like that, LOL.
0 -
Very good points, now let's go towards the deep end again. It's nice to dream of what we could do. Doesn't mean we would do it.
0 -
2 hours ago Chevyboy wrote:
Have you guys seen this?
Umbrella Trick
There were protesters at the
grocery store handing out pamphlets on the evils of
America. I politely declined to take
one. There was an elderly woman
behind me and a young (20-ish) female protester offered her a
pamphlet, which she also politely declined. The young protester
put her hand on the old woman's shoulder as a gesture of
friendship and in a very soft voice said, "Lady, don't you care
about the children of Iraq?"
The old woman looked up at her and said: "Honey, my
father died in France during World
War II, I lost my husband in Korea, a son in Vietnam and a
grandson in Afghanistan. All four died so a young little bitch like
you could have the right to stand out here and badmouth our
country. Now . . . If you touch me again, I'm gonna stick this
umbrella up your ass and open it."0 -
Last year when I went to the cancer center for an appointment, I walked in to find a large wall with ginormous bras garishly decorated in various themes. I couldn't believe my eyes. I asked them if we could expect to see an equally appalling display of giant decorated jock straps for testicular cancer awareness. She just looked at me like I was stupid. I was floored that with all that they see there, they would still think the display was appropriate.
0 -
I have a friend on FB, she lives hours away and we never get together these days, but we have a bond from days gone by. The other day, she posted that garish picture of a silhouetted woman holding up a bra with the caption, "celebrate breast cancer! October 13 is do not wear a bra day!" People were posting the picture last year, too. But this year, I just posted a comment to her post, "with all kindness, as someone dx with bc in 2011, I don't see the point in how this helps those with breast cancer". I wasn't gonna be rude about it. Or self righteous. And it was even hard for me to post what I did because I didn't want to seem nasty about it. And she wrote that she didn't mean to offend, she thought maybe it meant that everyone should have a day to feel good (?) and wasn't even sure it was a "real" day. Then she deleted the picture. She said I was more important to her, which was really sweet of her. I think it is small exchanges like this that get people thinking. At least, I hope so.0 -
Mini1, I found the same thing at my radiation center and posted a picture of it on the fall rads thread. Let me see if i can find it...
This picture was only part of a long hallway of bras. I was so upset that I demanded to be allowed to change in a different area so I wouldn't have to look at those every day. They accommodated me. But NONE of them seemed to have a clue as to why something like this might offend a woman, a feminist, a bilateral mastectomy scarred person. I also asked them if they had a testical wall for the same thing and they looked at me with that "deer in headlights" look.
.;.. sigh ...
0 -
good lord!! Yes, in reality swanning around in a ball scarf would be just as bad as some doofus who thinks he means well in a breast scarf. I know this, but when I think about things it does offend me and bother me that this particular cancer is so sexualized. One does not find that in ovarian cancer, or testicular or prostate cancer. This is an illness that we all deal with both male and female and I also can't imagine what it's like for the guys, such as my across the street neighbor the West Point grad being surrounded by pink and tata jokes. It's still cancer and saving second base is not as important as saving lives. I had my first mastectomy in my 30's , my second 25 yrs later at the end of last year, no reconstruction, and my husband has never regretted me losing second base, nor have I. I'd just prefer to keep the fluffy, sexy, pinky stuff out of it, as many of us care more about saving our lives if we can rather than second base. I understand the whistling past the proverbial graveyard, and infantalizing of this disease by making it seem relatively easy and harmless the "good cancer" but boobs have been a joke long enough ( I know this as a screenwriter) cancer shouldn't be.
0 -
Hi everyone! This is my first time at this thread, and I hope it's the right place to share this.
At the gym this morning, I saw a man wearing a t-shirt with the stupidest slogan that I've seen yet: "SAVE SECOND BASE". Hot pink letters on a black shirt. Made me so mad ...
It's probably been covered before, but there is no logic in this whole "saving" breasts argument. But second only to poop, boobs are just so funny (and I guess balls and weenies are next in line, but somehow we aren't seeing "save the tea bags" on t-shirts).
Thanks for letting me vent!
0 -
I saw an ad on FB last night for a Dallas Cowboy's tees shirt, "Sacks for Racks". Big pink ribbon down the middle...it really pissed me off. I have no "rack" to speak of anymore and I find this sentiment highly distasteful and hurtful.
0 -
Gemini,
Teabags, yes!!! You read my mind I was just saying that to my husband last night!!!! When guys wear those shirts it's really like the breasts belong to them...not us
0 -
ugh...disgusting....I'm SO.PISSED.OFF.
0 -
Hi Everyone,
I have so many friends on this thread, I thought I must check out this thread.
Last October, I was in the middle of chemo so I really didn't think much about pinktober. I was just trying to keep food down and get out of bed for my kids. Now I am dreading it. I hate "save the tatas", "I
boobies", "save second base" and so on. I'm more of a f*ck cancer person.0 -
Hi Poppy! 🙋🙋🙋. I agree. uck-fay ancer-kay.
0 -
Tang- being rackless as well, I totally agree. Tasteless. I'm glad I didn't have to see this in person. I might have had to junk punch somebody. You've been through so much. I'm very sorry you came across it. Was assaulted by it. Why are people so stupid? I almost wonder if too much "awareness" has caused a type of familiarity that has bred a sort of contempt. It is not funny. Breast cancer patients should not EVER be subjected in this way to someone elses's antidote for fear.
And yes, it is so glaringly obvious that the Dx is sexualized. Where indeed are the teabags?
0 -
How about this t-shirt?
0 -
Poppy- Yup!
How about
" Save home plate "
For testicular cancer. I get too riled up. I'm really not a tit for tat person. I don't believe in an eye for an eye, or a boob for a ball. I just can't help but think this is "handled" differently because it's largely a female condition.
However, as I've said before, male bc must be one of the loneliest dxs ever. My only acquaintance/exposure to male bc is here on bco. Travltxt is a class act. He has never shown the slightest snarkiness or bitterness. I could and should learn something from him
0 -
Poppy-omg that PISSES me off!!
0 -
Hey Y'all,
I've lurked but never posted on any of the boards before. Reckon I had to get riled up enough!
I just found this "inspiring" message in my inbox: "Help Us Fight Breast Cancer One Taco or One Selfie At A Time!" https://www.pfchangs.com/info/pfchangspink
P.F. Chang's is putting pretty pink scarves on the giant horse statues outside their restaurants. Take a selfie with the horse, post it to #PFChangsPink and they will donate a dollar to "The Cause". Plus, pin your own personal pink ribbon to their ribbon wall! Or buy a taco. Poor Spookie, the damn tacos made me think of your horrible experience
I would love for us Pinktober Revolutionists to take this as an opportunity to overload P.F. Changs's with our own "messages". Let's all take selfies holding signs and wearing shirts to get the truth out about pinkwashing, the fact that we are all aware and want a CURE, the horribly insensitive ways BC is portrayed, that cancer is not pretty and pink and fun.......all the garbage that is ticking us off. Plus, remember to create a REAL personal pink ribbon to post to their wall!
Chang's has done all the work to set up the social media stuff. Let's take advantage of them and make it ours!
People do want to help; unfortunately most people are pretty darn stupid. They see what they want to see. It's time for their eyes to be opened!
0 -
shepkitty- an excellent idea. The media circus is in place. It would be great just to hop on that bandwagon.
Thank you for getting angry enough to post. I mean, I'm sorry you had to get mad enough. That there was something that could make you so mad...oh heck...nice to meet ya!
0 -
Nice to meet you too Jackbirdie! Sometimes getting real mad is a good thing ~ when I was first DX'd almost 3 years ago I was told I would "drop dead" in 6 months. I was so angry at that "doctor" that I've stayed alive just to spite him! Though I suppose my awesome Oncology Team deserves some credit too
The P.F. Chang's fiasco just makes me soooo sick. This was posted on their FaceBook page.......Do we really need "heroes" like these spreading such insulting shite?
Cancer is whack, save a rack! #PFChangsPink
It'd be a pity to lose a titty! #PFChangsPink
0 -
I've had two cancer diagnoses 25 yrs apart. The first one 1990, sort of almost pre Komen and all the pink shit, the second last year with benefit of the internet, social media, etc. The things that drive me nuts and gets me all ragey is the sexualization of this disease. The Save Second Base, Save the Tatas, Sacks for Racks etc. Where in the fucking world is sexualization of any other life threatening illness. They don't do that for ovarian cancer,or prostate cancer, we don't see signs saying Save the Teabags for ball cancer, there is no jokey, sexy bullshit over AIDS. Breast cancer is not a joke, funny, sexy, fluffy or pink. It is all the stuff all of you have pointed out and more. It kills people. It is not the "good cancer" the "easy cancer" nor the "curable" cancer. It's just plain old cancer, yes early detection is great and helps..but not always and to lull people into thinking if they're "aware" whatever the fuck that means, and wear enough pink or show their bra straps or whatever FB code is rampant this year they're safe. No. Just no. It's a disease. Treat it that way, not like Womens' History Month or whatever. Find a cure, or find a way to make this merely a chronic survivable illness similar to diabetes, or high blood pressure, or the friends I have who are HIV positive, for those diagnosed with Stage IV. Otherwise they can take their pink crap and shove it where the moon don't shine.
Shepkitty,
omg! Shoot me now!
and I saw this on Lord Google and would only get one if I could use it on the guy wearing the tits scarf
0 -
Sula- you're rapier- like wit mixed with intelligent rage is always so refreshing. All I can say is:
Ditto.
0 -
Last year, PF Changs invited people to show up and help paint the horses pink.
I agree Sula!
Why are all of the BC survivors in the ads young, vibrant and beautiful? The statistical patient isn't all that young. Treatment can be devastating. More realistic ads. We need a cure, not more pink crap. I never really hated pink. I just hate companies using a serious disease to market their product or increase their profits.
0 -
Wow, this thread is going off!
JustJean: Very tacky display. Loved your response.
Suladog: Good points re sexualization of BC compared to testicular and prostate cancer. And, yes, the boob jokes are wearing thin after years of pink fundraising that really has neither done much at all for those diagnosed stage IV, nor greatly improved the chances of the rest of us moving out of our stages.
Tanga: 'sacks for racks' would have to be the worst slogan I have ever heard of. Next we'll have 'racks for sacks'.
Poppy: That t-shirt has just beaten 'sacks for racks' and must now be the worst slogan ever invented!
Shepkitty: Good luck fighting Chang's pink washing efforts. The horse image is insane!
Suladog. Your post says it all very eloquently and forcefully. Time to move on from the awareness campaigns and find cures. And that would certainly put a stop to companies profiting from our conditions. Perhaps they would just move on to sexualizing some other cancer.
0 -
It'd be a pity to lose a titty? Please tell me that was not a real slogan. OMG,,,,, sunk to a new low,
Like THAT is the biggest problem?
0
