Treating estrogen responsive cancer naturally
Comments
-
https://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/wp-content/uploads...
This link is the transcript of an interview that Chris Wark did with Dr Joel Fuhrman about nutrition and boosting immunity. The actual video can be seen on Chris Wark's web page, ChrisBeatCancer.com
0 -
Great link - thanks GoKale!
0 -
I've read that melatonin might reduce estrogen as well as increasing the effectiveness of drugs that affect estrogen. This study listed/described many studies, concluding that it should be studied. You might want to track down the specific studies that are cited. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6017232/
0 -
Booboo, I second contacting exbrnxgrl. She is very knowledgeable and also very kind.
0 -
Thanks all. I did contact her, and she was very helpful. I appreciate all of your responses. God bless.
0 -
great question ..no answer
0 -
I am wondering if anyone knows anyone premenoposal with high Er with lots of nodes involved and just went natural with no reoccurrence
0 -
Sorry Aseye, I haven’t heard of any. I chose not to take AIs but I was 62 at diagnosis. I am taking a DIM supplement (in addition to a bunch of others that I was taking before my diagnosis) and do take melatonin more nights than not for sleep-had no idea it may reduce estrogen until I read it above in this thread. Hope you find a treatment course that works for you
0 -
Aseye, anyone who would encourage a premenopausal woman with IIIB cancer and 20/21 positive nodes who is at such extremely high risk of recurrence and especially metastatic disease does not have their best interest at heart, or is extremely unschooled and ignorant as to the consequences of ignoring best medical practices
0 -
MelissaDallas thanks for your thoughts I have under gone all conventional treatment available for me and currently on tamoxifen. I asked because this is a tread for treating estrogen responsive cancer naturally so I'm wondering if anyone has a success story to share
0 -
Aseye...I never took an aromatase inhibitor. Ive been trying to lower my estrogen levels naturally since my diagnosis almost 6 years ago. I lost 30 pounds, try to exercise daily and take several supplements. So far so good!
0 -
dtad... did you have lymph nodes involved, were you premenoposal or post menopausal at diagnosis
0 -
Aseye - there is a thread for stage 2 with lymph node involvement here that maybe you can ask the question to:
https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/145/topics/743397?page=75#idx_2232
As for me, I did the surgery (lumpectomy) to remove the lump, followed by radiation since I had 2 positive nodes, and am also on tamoxifen. I chose a middle path - while I said yes to some treatment, I also said no to some (said no to a full axillary node dissection due to the high risk of lymphedema for example, and luckily had a low enough Oncotype score where I did not need chemo).
I’m 2.5 years out so currently in the feeling fine but still anxious stage. Hopefully one day we can all come back here as success stories
0 -
hi dtad I'd love to hear which supplements you're taking. I had surgery 2 wks ago for same stats as yours but had lumpectomy. Pretty sure no meds for me so thinking of I3C. I'm already on a 100% whole food plant based diet so am very thin. I exercise daily but think I'll step that up after reading your posts
0 -
I haven't taken anything ( Osteoporosis here with 6 FX/ cannot do aromatase) and high blood clot risk CATCH 22 , but after 8 yrs had a recurrence ( UGH) just this past FEB. POST menopausal btw. Would like to know more about DIM...BEST source to buy ' the real deal' as well as any SEs . PMs welcome. Thank you to all
0 -
Hi Purple 32- I buy most of my vitamins from LifeExtension.com They ship quickly.
I have also gotten a lot of information from NutritionFacts.org
The China Study- by Colin Campbell
Elyn Jacobs website: ElynJacobs.com has a ton of information on nutrition, particularly about estrogen metabolism and natural alternatives to Tamoxifen or Aromatase Inhibitors. She is not a doctor, though.
0 -
YEAH,, but you take Evista!
0 -
Purple - I guess I misunderstood your comment. I thought you asked where people buy vitamins. I just added some resources for further reading.
From the information I have read, I have made many changes in my lifestyle that are holistic not pharmaceutical.
Take care!
0 -
Hi Aseye...so sorry I did not see your post until now. No I did not have lymph node involvement. I was post menopausal at the time of my diagnosis but I hadn't gone for a mammogram for 7 years so there is a small chance I was premenopausal. I was on hormone replacement for those years and believe it was a huge contributing factor in the breast cancer. Hope this helps!
0 -
meink7...so sorry I didn't see your post sooner. I take Breast Defend, melatonin, mushroom extract and baby aspirin. Hope this helps!
0 -
Hi dtad, I had sent a private message to you, asking about your supplements, but I see them on this thread. I take all of those except the breast Defend. But I take DIM which is probably in the breast Defend. Also, I take vitamin D and K2, curcumin, and also calcium d gluterate which helps expel excess estrogen and toxins from liver from what I understand. Also, daily matcha green tea:)
Best to you!:)
0 -
happycook...sent you a PM too!
0 -
GoKale
I guess so- the thread was treating ESTROGEN fueled ,,,cancer NATURALLY, so I presumed. NP
0 -
dtad - BreastDefend. Looks like it could help. NIH has post how it seems to boost Tamoxifen. I wonder if it would help with AIs. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5314617/ . My DR reluctant to talk much about suppements, since often not well studied and could interfere with an "approved" drug. . But AIs block, and I guess Tamoxifen interferes with production of ER. I use a lot of tumeric in foods, and take GAIA supplement. Eat lots of mushrooms.
0 -
BlueGirlRedState...not surprised your doc wouldn't discuss supplements. They simply are not educated on the subject. it is not part of their curriculum in med school. I guess we have to be our own advocates. Best of luck.
0 -
Actually, it is just the opposite BlueGirlRedState. Tamoxifen keeps circulatingestrogen from binding to the estrogen receptors and AIs block production/synthesis of estrogen.
0 -
I found this interesting, worth to read the food part: Natural Alternatives to Aromatase Inhibitors
0 -
Hi Beauties!
I just wanted to share in response to a few things on this thread. I was diagnosed pre-menopausal in 2017. I decided to hold off on surgery because I believe that my cancer is a systemic issue and I wanted to find what worked best to heal my body so I could live a looooonnng life. I was only 39 at dx with no family history. I have tried lots of treatments thus far, both allopathic and naturopathic. After four years of trying coffee enemas, juicing, fasting, IV Vitamin C, Mistletoe, Myomin/Angiostop, IP6, DIM, Calcium D-Glucarate, Breast Defend (more on that in a sec), energy healing, acupuncture, plant medicine, cbd, rso, and more, all these natural treatments healed my body, my mind, spirit and kept any metastasis away, but the ONLY treatments that shrank my tumor was letrozole, zoladex and Ibrance. I really wanted to be the all-natural woman whose cancer disappeared naturally, but after a few years and a little progression, I decided that I needed more conventional help. I started using western medicine as a way to shrink my tumor before surgery. I have finally scheduled a surgery for this month and I will then be moving into the next phase, joining all of you...maintaining health for life!
I tried Breast Defend, which was such a help for the terrible hot flashes, night sweats and lack of libido from endocrine therapy (zoladex and letrozole), until it gave me a PERIOD while I was on the estrogen blockers. Ruh roh!
So, I would just suggest tracking your hormone levels if you are pre-menopausal with at-home saliva hormone tests, and work with a naturopath or naturopathic oncologist, because herbs can be very powerful. Oh, I also plan to continue to get my CTCs tested (Biocept), as well as follow up breast exams. And although I couldn't find natural treatments to shrink or get rid of my cancer (I am very strongly estrogenic), I am grateful that I know what helps me to feel healthy and most importantly, to heal.
I wish you every one of you the best, and I'm happy to chat about any and all of these treatments. There's a lot of options out there
0 -
midwestsmiles...so happy you found a treatment plan that works for you. We all have to make our own informed decisions. Just wanted to say something about Breast Defend. It s suppose to balance your estrogen levels by lowering the bad estrogen that causes breast cancer but not the good estrogen we all need for our vital organs such as brain, heart and skin. So I'm not surprised you got your period at your young age. Hope you continue to feel better.
0
