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  • traveltext
    traveltext Member Posts: 1,053
    edited January 2018
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    All 61 pages of this interesting, and perennial, topic prove that we are all more or less concerned about recurrence. The stats are one thing, and we certainly all try to rationalize them to suit our own cases, so here is my rationalization.

    No cancer gets the funding and attention that breast cancer gets, so we're lucky that, as people here say all the time, new research is improving our survival rates, lengthening our remission times, and extending our lives if we proceed to Stage IV. Having had aggressive breast and prostate cancers and two strokes (ischemic and hemorrhagic), I've come to the conclusion that I'd rather have the certainty that cancer treatment involves compared to the sudden death or disability that a stroke patient risks. Needless to say, I've sorted out my affairs and either eventuality will not be a burden on loved ones. But, I look at my bc mate Rob, now four years stage IV, after four years stage III, and he's living life very well. I then look at friends badly debilitated by a stroke and think I'd rather be dead than in their situation.

    I think it all boils down to the age of get this disease, your attitude to death, your psychological strength, and your ability to live life in a "new normal" mode. This said, my heart goes out to younger people here. My mom died aged 40 in 1962 (leaving 4 young boys) and her full treatment consisted of a most radical mastectomy and super-high radiation. Pre cemo, pre hormone blockers, pre Stage IV wonder drugs, she lasted two years.

    The latest stats show cancer survival rates are improving, and that's real good news.


  • anna-33
    anna-33 Member Posts: 108
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    I am so scared.... just waiting for messages about distant metastasis... Every detail in my initial diagnosis seems to show that my prognosis is really poor. What to do with my young kids? They are under four. I am crying all day and night...

  • traveltext
    traveltext Member Posts: 1,053
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    Anna-in-Norway, I'm very sorry to hear this. Tell us about your treatment to date, since that's an important component of your prognosis.

    My oncologist says it's un-constructive to have pre-conceived notions about any aspect of this disease, so perhaps you could bear this in mind to help alleviate your concerns.





  • runor
    runor Member Posts: 1,613
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    Traveltext, I appreciate the practical sincerity of your post. I tell people I fight this disease on two fronts, in my body and in my head. It's like a two headed hydra. (now I have to go listen to that song by Toto, can you tell me where I might find a hydra, is he wearing a familiar face...)

    These are big issues. The biggest, really. At times it is overwhelming.

  • anna-33
    anna-33 Member Posts: 108
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    Mastectomy, 4 x AC and 12 taxol and radiation...

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 2,181
    edited January 2018
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    Metabolic shifts in residual breast cancer drive tumor recurrence


    The researchers identified a chemical signature in the way that residual cells metabolized lipids. The altered process contributed to maintaining high levels of reactive oxygen species, which are molecules known to harm DNA. The team believes that this may play a role in triggering a relapse.


    https://www.jci.org/articles/view/89914?key=67eb30...

    Here’s the interpretation


    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/317464.p...


  • traveltext
    traveltext Member Posts: 1,053
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    Anna-in-Norway, that's best-practice treatment. Are you on hormone blockers?


  • anna-33
    anna-33 Member Posts: 108
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    Yes, but they told me antihormones are not effective in progesteronenegative cancer

  • meow13
    meow13 Member Posts: 1,363
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    Anna, I am 95% er positive and less than 1% pr, so pr negative. Hormone therapy, aromatose inhibitors are proving very effective for er positive and pr negative patients.

  • anna-33
    anna-33 Member Posts: 108
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    Thank you for answearing... I am on AI

  • traveltext
    traveltext Member Posts: 1,053
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    Anna, with your treatment, plus AIs, you should not fear metastatic recurrence.


  • meow13
    meow13 Member Posts: 1,363
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    Anna, I agree with traveltext there is no reason to think you will recur. As time goes on you will find the fear subsides.

  • anna-33
    anna-33 Member Posts: 108
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    I hope so.... cause right now tings feel hopeless! Your support helps a lot. (Sorry if my English is not so good). Here in Norway I feel alone by having lymph node involvement and beeing only 32..

  • DATNY
    DATNY Member Posts: 53
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    Dear Ann, the truth is: you can't predict what will happen to you. But right now you are disease free and should live to the maximum every moment, as much as you are physically able too. Why give cancer more of your life than you are supposed to? And there are many stage 3 women doing well after 15 years, so you shouldn't feel hopeless:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/67/topics...

    The only thing you could do now is to focus on diet, exercise and your spiritual needs, all of which have been shown to help. Not sure how things are done in Norway, but a plant-based diet is now often recommend here. Below is a link from Dana Farber, which is one of the top 3 places to treat cancer in the US. If you search their site, you will find detailed discussion on nutrition:

    http://www.dana-farber.org/health-library/videos/e...

    Regular exercise is one of the most recognized ways to reduce recurrence.

    Finally, studies show that people who regularly meditate or pray fare better.

    I don't go to a major cancer center, because where I live there are none. But even my small treatment place gave me a set of recommendations, which included regular exercise and meditation or pray. Finally, it is also important to have normal levels of vitamin D.

    If none of these help to make you feel better, perhaps you could discuss with your doctor about anti-depressants. And if your doctors can't find a way to help you lift your spirits, perhaps you should look for another one. I have a friend , stage 3 too, who changed oncologists just because the first one put to much emphasis on the negatives.

    Your kids deserve their "fully operational" mom back , and there is nothing at this point to prevent that from happening.

    Hugs!


  • Paco
    Paco Member Posts: 53
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    Hmm, statistics. There are so many factors involved in breast cancer that it becomes very hard to glean any real truths from these numbers.

    For all stages combined, the 5-year survival for female breast cancer is 90% and on average, 80% of people diagnosed with breast cancer live for 10 years or longer. We might also want to consider that the median and mean age for being diagnosed with breast cancer is 62, so half of women diagnosed are older and half are younger than that number. The average life expectancy of a woman in the United States is 81. So I suppose if you are diagnosed above the age of 62, as half of women diagnosed are, you can live a very full and normal life with a 15- or 20-year survival. My husband's grandmother was diagnosed at the age of 80 and lived to be 88 years old. She would make our survival statistics look bad but leaving this world at 88 sounds pretty good right now.

    I would read the statistics that that many, many women living with a breast cancer diagnosis will actually live long and productive lives.

  • NicolaSue
    NicolaSue Member Posts: 18
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    Kelly ,

    The basic fact is that more BCs are being discovered earlier and that makes it difficult to know what the real stats are because a decade ago people were often diagnosed when the disease was more advanced. Take me for example with 'only' LCIS. Most LCIS even now is only picked up when you are investigated for something else. But I have LCIS and just LCIS and there will be many more like me picked up with BC stage zero due to enhanced surveillance.

    When I was first diagnosed I got hung up on the stats - then I decided that as I couldn't change the stats it would be better to use my time and energy on trying to keep healthy. I'm finding that hard work enough!

    If I'm reading your signature right I think you are due surgery soon. Good luck!

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,008
    edited January 2018
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    This is interesting: Long-term breast cancer recurrence risk linked to original TN status


    13-11-2017 | Hormone-receptor positive breast cancer | News

    Long-term breast cancer recurrence risk linked to original TN status

    medwireNews: The risk for breast cancer recurrence increases at a steady rate for at least 15 years after the end of planned endocrine therapy and is strongly associated with the original tumor diameter and nodal (TN) status, meta-analysis data show.

    The findings are based on the results of 88 trials involving 62,923 women with early-stage estrogen receptor (ER)-positive breast cancer who were disease-free after 5 years of scheduled endocrine therapy.

    Hongchao Pan (University of Oxford, UK) and co-investigators from the Early Breast Cancer Trialists' Collaborative Group say the results have "implications for long-term follow-up strategies and [highlight] the need for new approaches to reduce late recurrence."

    "The risk could be somewhat reduced by extending the duration of endocrine therapy, with greater absolute benefits for those at highest risk for recurrence," they add.

    The researchers report in The New England Journal of Medicine that patients with stage T1 disease and no nodal involvement (T1N0) had a 13% cumulative risk for distant recurrence at 20 years. This increased to 20% with one to three nodes involved (T1N1–3), and 34% with four to nine nodes involved (T1N4–9).

    The corresponding risks among women initially diagnosed with stage T2 disease were 19% with T2N0, 26% with T2N1–3, and 41% with T2N4–9.

    Similar results were observed for the risk for death from breast cancer, but there was no association between TN status and the risk for contralateral breast cancer, the researchers remark.

    The team also found that tumor grade and the presence of Ki-67 antibody (which were strongly correlated with each other) only moderately predicted long-term outcome, despite being important independent prognostic factors during the first 5 years.

    Progesterone receptor and human epidermal growth factor receptor type 2 receptor status also predicted outcome during the first 5 years, but had no impact on long-term prognosis.

    When Pan et al further divided the patients according to tumor grade, they found that, among patients with T1N0 breast cancer, the absolute risk for distant recurrence during years 5 to 20 was 10% for low-grade disease, 13% for moderate-grade disease, and 17% for high-grade disease.

    The corresponding risks for any recurrence or a contralateral breast cancer were 17%, 22%, and 26%, respectively.

    The study authors conclude: "Recognition of the magnitude of the long-term risks of ER-positive disease can help women and their health care professionals decide whether to extend therapy beyond 5 years and whether to persist if adverse events occur."

    By Laura Cowen

  • BarredOwl
    BarredOwl Member Posts: 261
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    Lisey posted a link to a BC.org feature about the same Pan study in this thread back in November 2017. The ensuing discussion starts here:

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/105/topics/812929?page=58#post_5089667

    The underlying NEJM publication is here (full-text behind a paywall):

    Pan (2017), "20-Year Risks of Breast-Cancer Recurrence after Stopping Endocrine Therapy at 5 Years"

    http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1701830

    BarredOwl

  • outfield
    outfield Member Posts: 235
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    Kellyoc, the problem with looking at it that way is that you lump a group of very diverse diseases together so for any particular individual, the analysis is useless.

    For example, think of a different disease: Stevens-Johnson Syndrome/Toxic Epidermal Necrolysis (TEN). A lot of people have never heard of it, but it's pretty easy to understand. Usually as a response to an drug, the top part of the skin detaches and people get huge blisters. When those unroof, it's like having a serious burn. If it involves less than 10% of the body surface area, it's called SJS; more than 30% it's called TEN, 10-30% is considered "overlap," but it's all the same disease, just different degrees of severity. The fatality rate for SJS is roughly 5%, TEN is at least 20%. SJS is much more common; this isn't the exact number, but for easy statistics let's say 9:1. Take 200 patients: 180 of whom have a 5% risk of dying = 9 total, 20 who have a 20% risk == 4 total. Add them all together, 13 of 200 expected to die, = 6.5%.

    Do you see how the risk associated with the more common, less serious range of the disease statistically overwhelms the more serious type? The family of a person with TEN covering 70% of their body would be sadly misled if told the risk of death is 6.5%.

    In an analogous way, lumping all breast cancer together (the "combined" thing) helps nobody. Breast cancer is too diverse a disease, especially if DCIS is included. Many women with early stage disease have a great prognosis and a tiny chance of recurrence, but someone like me has a >40% chance of recurrence (20 years for me would be age 64, time that I'm hoping to be part of the prime of my life).

    To lump us all together minimizes how serious and life-threatening more advanced breast cancer actually is. In the worst case, it perpetuates a popular misconception that the disease is trivial.


  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 2,845
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    41% with T2N4–9 (risk of recurrence over 20 years), taken above from Molly50's post. That would be me. Thing is, 20 years from DX I will be 69. Still "young" but not exactly a kid. So far I am 6 years out, and I have lived well the last 6 years. I make a serious effort to live in such a way that I can die at any time without deep regrets. I intend to continue doing so for however long I get. In the end, it makes no sense to ruin your life by ruminating on the prospect of dying, whatever your odds are.

    Furthermore, I deliberately went for the most aggressive treatment possible at the time of my DX. My thinking was that research rolls on, however slowly, and the longer I can stave off a recurrence, the better the chances that some new treatment shows up in the meanwhile.

    Lastly, as discouraging as that 41% stat is, I still have better than a 50/50 chance :D

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 2,181
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    Good News, Bad News on Breast Cancer Survival Rate

    More women are surviving breast cancer, but more than 40,000 will still die from the disease this year. Living with it hasn't gotten much easier, either.

    Early detection and better treatments helped prevent 322,000 breast cancer deaths between 1989 and 2015.

    A new American Cancer Society (ACS) report shows that the breast cancer death rate decreased by 39 percent during those years.

    It's encouraging news.

    But breast cancer remains a significant health problem.

    It's second only to lung cancer as the leading cause of cancer deaths among women in the United States.

    The disease affects women and men of all ages.

    About 81 percent of diagnoses occur in women aged 50 and up. About 89 percent of breast cancer deaths also occur in this age group.

    The ACS estimates there'll be more than 252,000 new cases of invasive breast cancer in women this year.

    And more than 40,000 will die of the disease.

    Stubborn disparities

    Dr. John A. P. Rimmer, a breast cancer surgeon in Florida, told Healthline that a number of factors working together for the past 30 years contributed to the improved survival rate.

    Among them are better diagnostic tools and surgical techniques, as well as newer chemotherapy regimens and targeted therapies.

    The ACS report notes that not all women have benefited from these improvements.

    The overall incidence rate was 2 percent lower in non-Hispanic black women, compared to non-Hispanic white women.

    But from 2011 through 2015, the death rate was 42 percent higher in black women. This is a small improvement from 2011, when it was 44 percent higher.

    The lowest incidence and death rates are among Asian and Pacific Islander women.

    The report indicates that biologic, social, and structural factors all contribute to these disparities.

    These include stage at diagnosis, other health issues, and access and adherence to treatment.

    Also, black women have a higher rate of triple-negative breast cancer, a particularly aggressive form of the disease.

    Disparities vary from state to state. Access to healthcare is still a problem.

    "Breast cancer is very complex socially and emotionally," said Rimmer.

    In his practice, Rimmer has seen women who skipped screening or didn't initially seek medical care due to lack of health insurance.

    Delayed diagnosis and treatment affects chances of survival.

    Others refuse all or part of treatment due to cultural differences or misconceptions. And there are some who choose nonconventional treatments that simply don't work.

    Rimmer said that people aren't always forthcoming about the reasons why they don't show up for treatment.

    What it's like to live with breast cancer

    At the start of 2016, there were more than 3.5 million breast cancer survivors in the United States.

    "If we treat you and you're alive, it's a good thing. But there's nothing good about breast cancer," said Rimmer.

    He added that survivors often experience long-term consequences of chemotherapy, surgery, and radiation treatments.

    Laura Holmes Haddad, author of "This Is Cancer," is one of those survivors.

    The California mother of two received a diagnosis of stage 4 inflammatory breast cancer in 2012.

    She was 37 years old.

    To say her life changed would be an understatement.

    "When I look back, I think about how naïve I was. The things I thought would be the hardest, like being bald, were actually the easiest for me. But the things I thought I would breeze through, like having both breasts removed and having breast reconstruction, were the hardest," Haddad told Healthline.

    "Physically, I faced pain and discomfort and physical changes I couldn't have imagined," she continued.

    Haddad lists nerve pain, nausea, sensory issues, and being bedridden among the physical side effects of treatment.

    Then there's the mental and emotional toll.

    "I felt angry and bitter at first, and sad. And then I felt guilty and helpless. And I tried to feel hopeful and I tried to laugh when I could, because everything just gets so absurd that you just have to laugh to relieve the darkness. I felt lonely and isolated, and that was tough. And then I felt grief and then I finally hit acceptance. And that felt good," explained Haddad.

    For her family, it was a month after month marathon of logistical and emotional challenges.

    Her husband helped as much as he could. But he also had to continue working to keep up with health insurance and mounting cancer-related expenses.

    To get through it all, they relied on help from their extended family, friends, and community.

    A new normal

    "I still have nerve pain in my chest and discomfort, so it is hard to ever completely forget what you have been through," said Haddad.

    She still sees her oncologist every three months. She'll need to take estrogen blockers for the rest of her life.

    "Because I am BRCA2-positive, I have a higher risk of developing melanoma, especially after the extensive radiation treatment I had," she added.

    That means seeing a dermatologist every three months and avoiding the sun as much as possible.

    "I also have to keep my weight at a healthy level to lessen the risk of recurrence. Finally, I have to watch for lymphedema in my left arm because I had 14 lymph nodes removed. I also received radiation on my left side, leaving a high risk for developing lymphedema. I see a physical therapist and do daily arm exercises for that," she continued.

    Haddad's pet peeve is that people often think of breast reconstruction after mastectomy as a "boob job."

    "I can't tell you how many times people told me that at least I'd have a new pair of boobs at the end of it. I tried to smile and joke about it, but in the end, my bilateral mastectomy was one of the hardest aspects of having breast cancer. I will never, ever forget the day the bandages around my chest were unwound in the surgeon's office, a few days after the surgery," she said.

    "But after all those challenges, I can tell you one thing. I do not take one second for granted. I really do try and pay attention to every moment, every interaction, every bird I see, every conversation I have. There is no time to waste on nonsense. And I wouldn't trade that," Haddad said.

    Research is key

    "Cancer cells are nasty and sophisticated," said Rimmer. "The amount of knowledge we have is huge, but the cellular mechanism is hugely complex."

    He emphasized that breast cancer isn't a single disease. Some types are more aggressive than others.

    He believes research is one way to keep the death rate on the decline, especially when it comes to targeted therapies for the most aggressive types of breast cancer. He also said it's important to identify high-risk women, such as those with BRCA gene mutations.

    "At the other end of the spectrum, just simple things like getting a mammogram or going to the doctor when you have a lump are beneficial. Prevention is better than a cure," Rimmer said.

    Clinical trials are crucial to developing new treatments.

    Haddad took part in a clinical trial for the drug veliparib. She credits it with shrinking her tumor enough for surgery.

    There are challenges to participating in trials, even if your health insurance covers all or part of the treatment.

    For Haddad, that meant weekly plane fares, hotel nights, and other travel-related expenses.

    "No one really tells you about the logistics of navigating all that while on chemotherapy," she said.

    But she believes that funding research and encouraging people with cancer to participate in clinical trials is important.

    Many people don't realize that breast cancer can still be deadly, according to Haddad.

    "I also don't think they realize — I certainly didn't — how important medical research is in developing treatment options and hopefully one day a cure for breast cancer," she said.

    Www.healthline.com


  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 2,181
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    Should All Women Be Tested for Breast, Ovarian Cancer Gene Mutations?

    Researchers say testing women age 30 and over would reduce the number of breast and ovarian cancer cases.

    Evidence is growing that all women age 30 and older should be tested for the inherited gene mutations that can cause breast and ovarian cancer, according to British researchers.

    "We could prevent thousands more ovarian and breast cancers through a population testing strategy, compared to the current practice of testing only high-risk women," Dr. Ranjit Manchanda, a gynecological oncology specialist at Queen Mary University of London's Barts Cancer Institute, told Healthline.

    Testing all women age 30 and older also would be cost effective, Manchanda and colleagues wrote in a paper that appeared this month in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute.

    The researchers used a complicated mathematical model to arrive at their conclusions.

    Several cancer experts called the study solid and thought provoking but questioned some of the underlying assumptions.

    Current testing practices

    The most well-known genes linked to breast and ovarian cancer are BRCA1 and BRCA2.

    Together, mutations on these two genes account for 5 to 10 percent of all breast cancers and 15 percent of all ovarian cancers.

    Currently, medical guidelines recommend restricting testing for BRCA mutations to women who have been diagnosed with breast or ovarian cancer, or who have family members with breast, ovarian, fallopian tube, or peritoneal cancer.

    Women who inherit a mutation on either BRCA gene have approximately a 17 to 44 percent chance of developing ovarian cancer and a 69 to 72 percent chance of developing breast cancer over their lifetime.

    These women can reduce their cancer risk with specialized drugs, enhanced screening, or prophylactic surgery to remove breasts or reproductive organs.

    On the whole, women who do not carry BRCA gene mutations have a 2 percent risk for ovarian cancer and a 12 percent risk for breast cancer over their lifetime.

    But the current practice of limiting testing to high-risk women misses many carriers of BRCA mutations, research has shown.

    One reason is that more than half of women with BRCA mutations do not have a family history of breast cancer.

    Expanding testing

    Manchanda and colleagues came to two conclusions.

    The first is that it would be cost effective and life saving to add four additional genes — RAD51C, RAD51D, BRIP1 and PALB2 — when testing high-risk women for mutations.

    Dr. Yuri Fesko, medical director for oncology at Quest Diagnostics, a leading diagnostic laboratory, agreed.

    "We are learning very quickly that there are some additional genes that provide significant risk of breast and ovarian cancer beyond the classic BRCA testing," Fesko told Healthline.

    However, physicians order only BRCA testing for many patients, said Fesko, in part because of health insurance plan limits, which are based on current guidelines.

    The researchers' second conclusion is that expanding this broader panel testing to all women age 30 and older, or almost 100 million women in the United States, would be cost effective and life saving.

    This conclusion is more controversial.

    If that were done, 237,610 additional cases of breast cancer, or about 2 percent of breast cancer cases in the United States, could be prevented over women's lifetimes. Another 65,221 or roughly 5 percent of ovarian cancer cases could be avoided, the study estimates.

    But several experts questioned some of the researchers' assumptions.

    First, the researchers assumed that 1 in 147 women in the general population carries a BRCA mutation.

    "That is far higher than most studies assume," Elisa Long, PhD, assistant professor at the University of California Los Angeles (UCLA) Anderson School of Management, told Healthline.

    Long co-authored a 2015 study that concluded general population testing for BRCA mutations was not cost effective.

    "The estimates that I've seen for BRCA mutations [in the general population] are more like 1 in 400, 1 in 600 or 1 in 800," said Long. "It's like looking for a needle in a haystack."

    The researchers also assumed that a gene test would cost $330 in the United States.

    But there is a wide range in the costs of such tests.

    Direct-to-consumer testing for BRCA mutations offered by Color Genomics, for example, costs only a few hundred dollars. But testing by major laboratories that physicians typically use, such as Quest, costs much more.

    "The billed amount can run into the thousands of dollars," said Dr. Leif W. Ellisen, program director for breast medical oncology at Massachusetts General Hospital.

    The researchers said that if the test cost equaled or exceeded $772, testing all women for mutations would no longer be cost effective.

    Ambiguous gene mutations

    Gene testing can turn up mutations that scientists cannot yet classify as harmful or benign, so-called variants of unknown significance.

    That happens 1 to 2 percent of the time for each breast and ovarian cancer gene tested, said Ellisen. That would rise to as much as 12 percent if 6 genes were tested.

    "It is well documented in the [research] literature that many patients who have variants of unknown significance in this day and age are getting inappropriate and unnecessary treatment," including surgery," said Ellisen.

    And, if testing for breast and ovarian cancer gene mutations were offered to all women, ambiguous results could far exceed harmful mutation results, added Ellisen.

    Manchanda agreed that ambiguous test results are a serious problem.

    "We need to do further research on how to monitor and counsel for variants of unknown significance," Manchanda said.

    The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force, an influential independent, government selected panel of experts, is in the early stages of updating its 2013 recommendation that BRCA testing be limited to high-risk women. The task force weighs harms and benefits but does not consider cost effectiveness.

    "There is a lot of interest in what population would benefit most from this testing," Dr. Alex Krist, a task force member and an associate professor of family medicine and population health at Virginia Commonwealth University, told Healthline. "So, it is fair to say that this is an area that we will be looking closely at."

    Many cancer experts, including Manchanda, doubt the task force will recommend expanding testing to all women without more research on the benefits and harms.

    But it is possible that the task force might recommend testing in all Ashkenazi Jewish women, a group at particular risk for harmful BRCA mutations, said Ellisen.

  • stephaniebc
    stephaniebc Member Posts: 21
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    i manage my fear of recurrence with meditation and -- although it may sound counter-intuitive -- by making a conscious effort to think about death a little bit every day, to get acquainted with it, so to speak, so that it's not so scary. the stage IV threads are very inspiring to me in that respect.

    death is truly a taboo subject in our culture and i feel a little bit more enlightened now.

  • stephaniebc
    stephaniebc Member Posts: 21
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    ps- this doesn't mean that i am fatalistic, of course. i do all the things, the eating well, the turmeric, the exercise and whatnot.

  • Artista964
    Artista964 Member Posts: 376
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    heart disease is higher deaths than bc.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 2,845
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    Stephanie, same here. Coming to terms with death has helped me live.

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 2,181
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    GATA-3 Expression as a Predictor of Hormone Response in Breast Cancer

    Purvi Parikh, MD, Juan P. Palazzo, MDLewis J. Rose, MD Constantine Daskalakis, SCDRonald J. Weigel, MD, PhD (FACS)'Correspondence information about the author MD, PhD Ronald J. WeigelPlumX Metrics

    DOI: https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jamcollsurg.2004.12.025

    Background

    Expression of estrogen receptor-α (ERα) as determined by immunohistochemistry of tumor tissue is currently the most clinically useful test to predict hormone responsiveness of breast cancer. Thirty percent of ERα-positive breast cancers do not respond to hormonal therapy. GATA-3 is a transcription factor that is expressed in association with ERα and there is evidence that GATA factors influence response to estrogen. In this pilot study, we investigated whether GATA-3 expression is associated with hormone response in breast cancer.

    Study design

    Breast cancer tissue was stained for GATA-3 expression by immunohistochemistry in ERα-positive cancers from 28 patients, 14 of whom were defined as hormone unresponsive (cases) and 14 of whom were age-matched controls with hormone-responsive, ERα-positive cancers (controls).

    Results

    Comparing cases and controls, there were no differences in expression of ERα; progesterone receptor, ErbB2; or tumor grade. Using 20% nuclear staining to characterize tumors as GATA-3 positive or GATA-3 negative, 6 of 14 (43%) cancers in the hormone-unresponsive group and none of the controls were classified as GATA-3 negative (odds ratio, 8.2; 95% confidence interval, 1.2−∞; p = 0.031). Using different cut points to characterize GATA-3 positivity yielded very similar results, indicating a positive association between lack of GATA-3 expression and lack of response to hormonal therapy.

    Conclusions

    The study suggests that analyzing ERα-positive breast tumors for GATA-3 using immunohistochemistry might improve prediction of hormone responsiveness. The association between GATA-3 expression and hormone response suggests that GATA-3 may play a role in mechanisms controlling response to estrogen.

  • jojo9999
    jojo9999 Member Posts: 52
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    Does anyone know if GATA-3 is part of thhe Breast Cancer Index? (BCI)?

  • marijen
    marijen Member Posts: 2,181
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    Researchers identify presence of ER gene fusion proteins in treatment-resistant breast cancer

    February 7, 2018

    At Magee-Womens Research Institute (MWRI) and UPMC Hillman Cancer Center, a large team of clinical and laboratory researchers dedicated to understanding treatment resistance in the most common form of breast cancer have identified a new genetic change in the estrogen receptor (ER) that contributes to therapy resistance. ER-positive breast cancer, diagnosed in two-thirds of breast cancer patients, is fueled by the presence of estrogen in the body. Anti-estrogen therapy is usually successful in treating the disease initially, but ER-positive breast cancers will often recur because tumors develop a resistance to treatment.

    Published in the Annals of Oncology, the research identifies the presence of ER gene (ESR1) fusion proteins in treatment-resistant breast cancer. This is the first time that recurrent ESR1 fusion proteins have been identified in human breast cancer, and understanding how they function could lead to improved treatments for the disease.

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    "We first identified this change in a patient who had ER-positive breast cancer, received anti-estrogen therapy, had her breast cancer recur and eventually passed away from the disease," said senior author Adrian Lee, Ph.D., director of the Women's Cancer Research Center at MWRI and UPMC Hillman Cancer Center, and professor of Pharmacology & Chemical Biology at the University of Pittsburgh. "A member of our lab noticed the mutation while performing posthumous genetic analysis from tissue in our organ donation program, and over time we were able to identify many more cases of this mutation in patients with recurrent disease." This work was performed in collaboration with Foundation Medicine Inc., a genomic testing company that examined ESR1 fusions in close to 10,000 breast cancers sequenced with the FoundationOne CDx test.

    According to Lee, ESR1 fusion proteins "outsmart" traditional treatment by splitting in half and eliminating the binding site that anti-estrogen therapy targets.

    "Physicians will continue administering anti-estrogen therapy, not realizing this genetic mutation has occurred," said Lee. "Now that we understand the change, though, we can detect it with a blood test and help improve treatments for this form of the disease."

    According to Lee, genetic analysis will soon be the dominant field of ER-positive breast cancer research, eventually leading to improved treatments and patient outcomes.

    "Genomic sequencing is telling us so much about breast cancer. I believe the research we are doing in the laboratory will have a significant clinical impact in the near future, and the work we are doing will play a large part in improving patient care and survival," said Lee.

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    http://www.upmc.com/media/NewsReleases/2018/Pages/lee-breast-cancer-treatment.aspx

  • lisey
    lisey Member Posts: 300
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    Marijen, Is that related to this? https://www.nature.com/articles/cr201815