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  • zarovka
    zarovka Member Posts: 2,959
    edited March 2017
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    Some doctors feel a significant rise in tumor markers is 5x to 10x. There certainly is considerable normal variability so month to month changes are not very meaningful. Watching people on this forum, I believe there can be significance to a long term trend ... a consistent rise over several months. Particularly with ILC.

    Of course, when mine went down last month by 10% (from 44 to 40) I felt that was very significant!

    >Z<

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 3,063
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    Kandy, what about calling this week to set up a palliative care appointment, rather than asking your onc next week? I understand that palliative care specialists can work in detail with you on pain issues.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,028
    edited March 2017
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    Thinking of you, Kandy.


  • Lita57
    Lita57 Member Posts: 2,338
    edited March 2017
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    Kandy: Could you possibly rent a heat/massage chair?

    We have a La-Z-Boy, and I turn on the heat and the massage buttons just to hit the lower spine, and it does help.

    When I was still working, I bought a large heating pad from Rite Aid to wrap around my lower back (small heating pad not big enough). The heat helps somewhat.

    I FEEL for you as my back pain is getting worse, too. Gonna have to re-think radiating again :o(.


  • Key2
    Key2 Member Posts: 54
    edited March 2017
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    Kandy

    Thinking of,you...praying and positive outcome for you next week!

    BIG HUG

    Kimba

  • artistatheart
    artistatheart Member Posts: 1,437
    edited March 2017
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    Thinking of you too Kandy while you await results. I hope you got something to help with the back pain as pain can just drain you for anything else.....Let us know how you are doing.

  • zarovka
    zarovka Member Posts: 2,959
    edited March 2017
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    Thinking of you. Praying.

    >Z<

  • Kandy
    Kandy Member Posts: 424
    edited March 2017
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    I just got back from seeing the MO. The scan showed mixed results with the chemo. Some lesions were smaller, some larger. There was also new lesions, 2 of them was in my liver. I asked about him doing a biopsy on one of the liver lesions. He did not think there would be any benefit from it. He thinks that some of the cancer has already figured out how to survive with Abraxane. So his plan was to keep taking Abraxane but to add Carboplatin. I will start that next week after insurance approves it. He is going to do 3 rounds, which is 9 weeks then rescan. I'm praying this works this time. Thank you all for the thoughts and prayers. Take time to enjoy the moment

  • 50sgirl
    50sgirl Member Posts: 2,071
    edited March 2017
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    Kandy, I am sorry for the mixed results, but your MO was armed with a new plan, and that is good. I know how stressful this is for you. You remain in my prayers. I hope the new combo treats you gently and is effective beyond belief.

    Hugs to you,

    Lynne

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,028
    edited March 2017
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    Kandy, I second what 50sgirl says about hoping the additional treatment is both gentle and effective. And I really listen to what you write about taking time to enjoy the moment. I remind myself to take it all in. Many hugs and prayers for you.

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,173
    edited March 2017
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    Big (((HUGS))) Kandy.

    I'm sorry for the mixed results, but glad that your MO has a new plan. Here's a third vote for "gentle and effective" results.

    Now, go get yourself some grandbaby therapy. That's the best treatment.

    Love, Madelyn

  • zarovka
    zarovka Member Posts: 2,959
    edited March 2017
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    Hugs Kandy. It's tough to stare down an ambiguous result like that and keep going ... but you have a good plan and many reasons to get back in the ring and fight.

    >Z<

  • Nan812
    Nan812 Member Posts: 224
    edited March 2017
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    kandy, you have been in my thoughts so often these last 2 months...please show me how you pull yourself back up and out of this...I am continually sending strength and healing thoughts your way ( actually to all of you....oh I wish it did more good ) thanks for the updates, dont know about every one else, but I always worry when its been awhile between posts.

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 3,063
    edited March 2017
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    Kandy, that sounds like a sensible plan to add the carbo. Wishing you lots of moments to enjoy and forget about cancer.

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 2,394
    edited March 2017
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    Kandy,

    I took some time away and have just found this thread. I am so sorry to hear that you are in pain and that your bloody little mutant cells have woken up. You have my best thoughts. Gosh, I hope they figure out how to make you more comfortable. Chronic pain is simply not acceptable.

    *susan

  • kae_md99
    kae_md99 Member Posts: 394
    edited March 2017
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    Kandy,

    i just laid my hands on your picture and prayed to God to relieve you of the pain....God bless you.

  • Lita57
    Lita57 Member Posts: 2,338
    edited March 2017
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    Kandy, have you tried acupuncture for pain? Some women in my live stage 4 support group have tried it and say it helps.

    Palliative radiation can help for pain too, but once you have a series of multiple rad sessions, you can't go back and do the same area again from what I've heard, or you'll have tissue necrosis.

    I have pretty bad chronic pain now from spinal bone mets and mets in the muscles adjacent to the spine from tumor progression, so that's my dilemma...do I pull the radiation arrow out of the quiver and use up that option or do I try something a little less invasive?

    Praying for pain free days and nights.


  • BabyRuth
    BabyRuth Member Posts: 107
    edited March 2017
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    Kandy-Hoping your new plan works wonders for you and that you get some relief from the pain. Been thinking about you and sending many hugs and prayers your way.

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Member Posts: 8,950
    edited March 2017
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    hi Kamdy. Sorry to see her latest results. Hoping that the new addition on your chemo is kicking cancers but. Sending you a big hug today.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 4,784
    edited March 2017
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    kandy,

    I have been around sporadically, but please know that I'm thinking of you. Very glad that you and your mo have a plan moving forward

  • artistatheart
    artistatheart Member Posts: 1,437
    edited March 2017
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    kandy, Sorry this new worry has been added to your plate. Carbo has been very good to kaayborg and I pray the same for you.

  • Mominator
    Mominator Member Posts: 1,173
    edited March 2017
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    Hi Kandy, thinking of you.

    Did your insurance approve the Carboplatin, and have you started it yet? Wishing for gentle and effective treatment.

    Did you get some grandbaby therapy?

    All my best wishes, Madelyn

  • shutterbug73
    shutterbug73 Member Posts: 284
    edited March 2017
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    Kandy - I have no words of wisdom to add to what has already been said, but I wanted you to know you are in my thoughts always.

  • Kandy
    Kandy Member Posts: 424
    edited March 2017
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    Hello Ladies.

    I started carbo yesterday. So far, I have had no other side effects. They do give an anti nausea med that is good for 3 days, hopefully that won't be a big issue cause I hate nausea. Really praying this works. I'll still get abraxane and the carbo every 3 weeks. Keep your fingers crossed. I do get to see and love Harper a lot. He really is great therapy. He melts my heart with that smile. Holding all of you up in prayer. Enjoy the moment.

  • zarovka
    zarovka Member Posts: 2,959
    edited March 2017
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    Fingers crossed the carbo works.

    >Z<

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Member Posts: 8,950
    edited March 2017
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    kandy. I am keeping my fingers crossed for you and praying this is the med to kick those cancer cells bootie. Glad you got Harper therapy. How's your youngest with all the change I am assuming In your energy levels etc. ? Reaching out a hand to hold yours 👋

    💪and a lil extra strength.


  • artistatheart
    artistatheart Member Posts: 1,437
    edited April 2017
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    Awww Kandy, I hope the carbo is the ticket too and the nausea stays away. Focus on that baby and be good to yourself. I hope Spring is blooming for you in NC and you can start enjoying your pool and garden.

  • lulubee
    lulubee Member Posts: 903
    edited April 2017
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    Kandy, I came by the thread to check on you and I'm sorry to learn your mixed results on Abraxane alone. I sure hope the carbo chaser does the trick for you and your pain levels improve fast.

  • Nel
    Nel Member Posts: 597
    edited April 2017
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    Kandy,

    Gentle hugs that the new mix works wonders,  Hug that grandbaby and keep us posted.

    Nel

  • Southernsurvivor
    Southernsurvivor Member Posts: 569
    edited April 2017
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    Kandy,

    Praying for the best for you as always. Love that you have that little bundle of joy Harper to keep you smiling!

    Thanks for keeping us updated - we all sure care about you! 💕

    Sheri