I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,369

    Well, isn't she the happy little warrior.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,649
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    betrayal Member Posts: 3,649
  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,369
  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,649
  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,649
  • illinoislady
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  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,649
  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,369
  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,649

    Especially from PA since the repugnican house would not approve counting mail-in ballots early.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,369

    No one, and I do mean no one wants to hook up with a demented loser.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,369

    Giving me hope.

  • illinoislady
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  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,649

    The fact that Pat Toomey isn't voting for or endorsing Trump doesn't mean he is voting for Kamala. It just means he is finally divorcing himself from the MAGA party. He voted for everything DT wanted while he was in the presidency. He did nothing for his constituency the entire time he was a Senator for PA. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Too little, too late since he voted him in in 2016. Can't rewrite the past.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,809
  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,369

    Betrayal, quite true on Toomey. He really didn't say who he was voting for — only that it wouldn't be FG. Another jewel, huh !!! The holier-than-thou's and I guess one could say better late than never, but you won't be convincing the many I know that you've done them any favors. All of you have backbones and spines that are mush and most of you are the most useless warts humanity has hanging around. One could find the black plague a mite more pleasant than the likes of you and your kind.

    I still have so many questions about this whole journey — like how people EVER could see in FG anything worthwhile enough to endow him with the highest office in the land. To me he has always been one and the same — just living, breathing evil. Perhaps though I encountered that evil early on and quickly — trying long ago (seemed possible to enjoy at the time) to watch "The Apprentice". As mentioned previously, after ten minutes I turned the program off. I was actually felling agitated and ill and I never turned it on again, ever.

    How this man seemed to have amassed a huge amt. (not quite enough really) of followers early on is beyond me since I think of the people, I knew at the time who chose to vote for that swine. I knew these people as bright and capable and I generally thought of them as people who would, for themselves, thoroughly investigate a person they might wish to vote for. If they did, they didn't do much of a job of it. I don't know if these same people have continued or not. I hope not, but some people don't get over stupid or a cult mentality. Probably more dependent on just how many rt. wing news outlets they allow themselves per day.

    And one of the biggest questions of all — when does this one get treated like all the rest of us as he grifts us into oblivion. How much do we have to pay and keep paying for this hideous abomination that no one should have to endure.

    I so hope and pray it is soon that we can start to rebuild, heavily all that was taken. Also that books are no longer banned, and people like DeSantis are dumped in favor of those who have the welfare of all in mind and who will follow through. That we can dump the Eileen Cannon's and give ourselves a much fairer and just system that brings us closer into equalities. A lot to ask and more to do but we are worth it.

  • illinoislady
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,369

    Media

    Did the 'L.A. Times' and other news outlets pull punches to appease Trump?

    Updated October 25, 20248:59 AM ET 

    Heard on All Things Considered

    David Folkenfli

    Los Angeles Times owner Patrick Soon-Shiong, shown in 2012, blocked his paper's endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris. The editorials editor resigned, saying the decision made the paper look "craven."

    Recent episodes involving major U.S. news organizations have stoked fears that outlets are preemptively self-censoring coverage that could offend former President Donald Trump, who remains neck-and-neck in the polls with Vice President Kamala Harris ahead of Election Day.

    “One of the central media stories in the U.S. right now is the people who run big media companies making accommodations for a second Trump presidency and thinking about how to avoid antagonizing him,” Ben Smith, editor-in-chief and co-founder of the news site Semafor, tells NPR.

    Los Angeles Times editor resigns after owner blocks endorsement of Harris

    Semafor’s Max Tani first broke the news that the owner of the Los Angeles Times, Patrick Soon-Shiong, intervened to block the publication of an editorial endorsing Harris. The Trump campaign swiftly shared the Semafor story with supporters.

    The L.A. Times’ editorials editor Mariel Garza resigned, saying Soon-Shiong’s decision made the paper look “craven and hypocritical.” The newspaper has endorsed Harris, a Californian who lives in Los Angeles, for public office before; the paper’s editorial pages have routinely condemned Trump’s character, policies and record. Shortly after Garza quit, two more members of the editorial board resigned.

    Last month, in endorsing state and local candidates, the L.A. Times editorial page said voters would confront “the most consequential election in a generation” — though, it added, it was “not just talking about the presidential race.”

    Publishers and owners have the right to weigh in on endorsements, of course, and often do soThis time, Soon-Shiong says he wanted something different.

    Investigations

    Trump has made more than 100 threats to prosecute or punish perceived enemies

    On the social media platform X, formerly Twitter, he wrote that the assignment had been to provide “clear and non-partisan information side-by-side.”

    “The Editorial Board was provided the opportunity to draft a factual analysis of all the POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE policies by EACH candidate during their tenures at the White House, and how these policies affected the nation,” Soon-Shiong wrote. “In addition, the Board was asked to provide their understanding of the policies and plans enunciated by the candidates during this campaign and its potential effect on the nation in the next four years.”

    Semafor Editor Smith noted that Soon-Shiong, like many media owners, has other business interests that can be directly affected by government actions. As a physician and medical inventor, Soon-Shiong has medical products subject to review by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and applies for patents to federal regulators as well.

    Media

    Jailed reporters, silenced networks: What Trump says he'd do to the media if elected

    “If you have a lot of exposure to heavily regulated industries, I’d be very surprised if it’s something that media executives are not thinking about,” Smith says.

    In addition, according to Stat News, which covers science, health care and medicine, Soon-Shiong unsuccessfully sought a senior role overseeing U.S. health care at the outset of the Trump administration in 2017.

    The Los Angeles Times did not respond to requests for comment beyond Soon-Shiong’s statement.

    Concerns at NBC over Trump documentary

    On the campaign trail, Trump has repeatedly threatened to strip broadcast licenses from three big television networks -- ABC, CBS and NBC – in retribution for moderators fact-checking him and running mate JD Vance during debates and for news coverage that Trump claims is unfair.

    That’s not how such federal regulation works: the Federal Communications Commission licenses local television and radio stations. But the three broadcast networks own 80 local TV stations among them, making those licenses a pressure point.

    As CNN first reported, CBS News has resisted Trump's threats of legal action to force the release of its full, unedited interview with Harris.

    A documentary based on the reporting of NBC and MSNBC Correspondent Jacob Soboroff about Trump's border policy will air after the presidential election.

    “For the past decade, Donald Trump has been running a campaign against the media straight out of the playbook that authoritarians have used around the world, which is to threaten retaliation against news organizations if they don’t provide him with favorable enough coverage,” says Ian Bassin, an attorney and founder of the not-for-profit advocacy group Protect Democracy. “We are seeing now the seeds of that campaign bearing fruit.”

    Three journalists at left-leaning MSNBC told NPR that colleagues were concerned that a documentary produced by NBC News Studios about the effects of Trump’s policies on migrant families separated at the southern U.S. border will not be shown until early December, a month after Election Day. (The staffers asked for anonymity in order to discuss internal network matters.)

    MSNBC star Rachel Maddow has been among the film’s biggest boosters internally. It is based on the reporting of NBC and MSNBC Correspondent Jacob Soboroff and directed by the noted filmmaker Errol Morris. Morris has publicly questioned the network’s decision.

    “Why is my movie not being shown on NBC prior to the election?” Morris tweeted earlier this month. “It is not a partisan movie. It's about a policy that was disgusting and should not be allowed to happen again. Make your own inferences.”

    NBC News executives rejected the idea that political considerations had played any role in its programming decision about the film. MSNBC has shown another film, called “From Russia with Lev,” about the allegations against Trump from an ally turned critic, Lev Parnas. Top MSNBC hosts have called Trump a “fascist” repeatedly in recent days, based on caustic characterizations from several of Trump’s former top aides.

    In a statement, NBC News says it is proud of Soboroff’s film, noting it is based on reporting that previously aired on NBC and MSNBC.

    “We are fortunate that even amid this challenging documentary climate, we have been able to obtain significant visibility at several prestigious film festivals and an expanded theatrical run, which qualifies it for major awards, including the Oscars, ahead of its television debut soon,” it said.

    Soboroff has been on the network frequently talking about related matters. NBC News Studios says it could not air the documentary while it is being shown at various film festivals and theaters. MSNBC officials concluded it would be better not to interrupt its intensifying political coverage immediately before Election Day.

    Lingering uncertainty over Washington Post endorsement

    The Washington Post's investigative reporters have been in the vanguard of exposing wrongdoing by Trump and his associates while in power. Its editorial section, which is operated separately, has been sharply critical of the former president.

    Yet less than two weeks before Election Day, the Post’s opinion-section staff does not know whether the paper will run an editorial endorsement for president, as first reported by Status and confirmed to NPR by two people at the Post with knowledge. (They asked for anonymity to talk about internal matters at the paper.)

    The last time The Post did not make an endorsement for president in the general election was 1988, according to a review of archives. The Post has been endorsing candidates for local office this fall. The New York Times endorsed Harris on Sept. 30.

    Post owner Jeff Bezos is the founder of Amazon and space company Blue Origin, both of which have contracts with the federal government. During the Trump administration, the Pentagon had to scrap a $10 billion cloud computing contract with Microsoft after Amazon filed a lawsuit alleging it had been passed over to punish Bezos for the Post’s reporting.

    Trump had said publicly that he, personally, had been reviewing the contract, which Amazon had previously been expected to win. Ultimately, four companies, including Amazon and Microsoft, were awarded parts of the contract.

    Bezos's new chief executive and publisher at the Post is Will Lewis, who has conservative bonafides. Lewis held the same role at Rupert Murdoch's Wall Street Journal; served as the editor of the London-based Telegraph, which is closely allied with the Tory party; and was a consultant to Conservative Boris Johnson when Johnson was prime minister. Colleagues have told NPR that Bezos selected Lewis in part for his ability to get along with powerful conservative political figures, including Murdoc

    Corporate spokespersons for the Washington Post did not respond to requests for comment.

    “Outlets from the Los Angeles Times to perhaps even the Washington Post are engaging in what the historian Timothy Snyder has called anticipatory obedience — pulling back from their obligation to tell the truth in order to placate the tyrant so he doesn’t come after them,” Protect Democracy's Bassin says

  • miriandra
    miriandra Member Posts: 2,233

    That's the funny thing - he's actually very liberal (and vehemently supports reproductive rights), is married and has a wonderful teenaged boy. I'm guessing he has a friend who went through a negative experience with vas reconstruction, and that's where it's all coming from. But it does conveniently ignore all the female tolls - physically and financially - that births take on women. And he's witnessed it all first hand!!

    I guess sometimes cognitive dissonance isn't always that dissonant?

  • miriandra
    miriandra Member Posts: 2,233
  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,649

    I would like a vomit button and probably would be flagged for using it appropriately. Having a teen aged son only gives him one experience with maternal/child care so his perspective is very limited.

    Did his friend have the vas snip after fathering children and then later want to father more? Sorry but I think it is very hard to be a responsible father to two families. So while I do feel sorry for his friend, I am hoping that his children get the fatherly oversight and financial support they need.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,649

    The fact that major news outlets are tempering their editorials and press releases based on fear of retaliation makes me want to vomit. I would drop my subscription to the LA Times like a hot cake and yes, I realize it has a financial impact on those who want to report the news. If enough people do this, perhaps the owner would feel the repercussions of his actions.

    What is it with these South African billionaires wanting to dictate US policy? Yes, they have citizenship and maybe that's what we need to look at. The owner is concerned about his pocket due to dealing with the federal government for contracts, etc. His contracts should be voided.

  • trishyla1
    trishyla1 Member Posts: 103

    I did just cancel my subscription to the LA Times, my local paper. I also canceled my subscription to The Washington Post, due to their refusal to endorse this election on Bezos's orders. I will also start weaning myself from Amazon. If Trump steals another election with the help if the Despicable Billionaires Club, I will cancel my Prime membership, never to buy from them again.

    People keep saying they think there will be a Civil War if Trump loses. I can almost guarantee a break up of the country if he cheats his way back into office.

    Blue states are getting damned tired of supporting deadbeat red states, only to have them spit on every value we hold dear. There is a large contingent who would support blue states leaving the union, including many Trump supporters who are too ignorant to realize that we're their meal ticket.

    I'm beyond disgusted with any person who would vote for that despicable lump of human excrement.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,369

    I wanted to hit the agree button a hundred times at least, Trishyla. I don't take our local paper anymore although I will admit it had nothing to do with politics and and I read through a few newsfeeds and a couple special articles.

    I gave up excessive news and only catch up in the morning. Dh insists that it go back on at night but unless it is something I think might be good (like an Obama speech say) I don't bother with news anymore then either. First I became dis-enchanted, then dubious and then sure that pieced together but generally barely true items were being used by everyone to enhance the viewership numbers. Even in an instant news world surely we can do far better then to cherry-pick for God's sake.

    We have always had from long ago personal favorites from the newsrooms — ah I remember Dave Garraway with great fondness . Tom Brokaw, and the oh so famous Tim Russert.

    Well some things won't be back, but I see no need of the adulterated crap that often passes for news these days tortured and twisted and pretzeled into something that hopefully keeps you glued to that channel, possibly all day long. I just can't do it anymore.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,398

    I live in a serious RED state, but luckily in big city Houston - which tends blue. I do take the daily paper, but it's a Hearst publication & they seem to be reporting what's true & calling out the lies. I don't watch any TV and can easily click away from what I read/see line if it's obnoxious (or nonsensical).

    Have some friends who were going to see Kamala tonight, but I was babysitting my grand niece. I'm looking forward to their report. For the most part, neighbors just don't talk about politics or religion - since of course we're also in the bible belt. Sure hope we can get rid of Ted Cruz…..

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,369

    I have been hoping for Cruz to finally be exited out of politics too and hope this is the time. I can think of many others as well like good ole' GYM Jordan. I marvel at times that despite the fact they mainly do nothing but cause issues, that they keep getting re-hired. I would like to think under better conditions (we take total control for a cycle or two or three) we could finally get a dump going on the totally worthless troublemakers who actually do nothing for their constituents.

    Here's hoping !

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,809