I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527


    Whether you know it or not, one of the most important relationships in
    your life is with your Soul.  Will you be kind and loving to your Soul,
    or will you be harsh and difficult?  Many of us unknowingly damage
    our Souls with our negative attitudes and actions or by simple neglect.
    By making the relationship with your Soul an important part of your
    life, however, by honoring it in your daily routine, you give your life
    greater meaning and substance.  Use your experiences--all of
    them--as opportunities to nourish your Soul!

    Elisabeth Kuebler-Ross

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527

    Thank you Betrayal. I am glad to hear what others are feeling and thinking. I live in what I think is something of a little sea or Republicans. You are aware of some of the non-family members in your life who are Reps. As a kid (boy, are we talking long ago now) growing up here I have little interest in anything even remotely connected to politics and or the parties. I can't recall people talking to each other about the subject save for my mom and dad occasionally.

    Leading up to my return home after 34 yrs. gone w/o returning once in that time. For a long time the subject of politics didn't come up — too busy getting re-adjusted to life here. I went to work (was there 8 yrs.) in the office of the realtor who sold us our house. My extended Reps. family one by one came for visits here to buy homes to retire to. One of the things they did at the office was to bring up politics. They did not see the eye rolls and the highly dis-enchanted looks, but I did. I just instantly knew what it meant — do not talk politics in this town. It's neither appreciated nor welcomed. Not sure why I GOT that so quick but thank goodness I did.

    To this day I can't say for sure, but I think the ofc. I worked in had Reps. ownership. There are many others who seem on the few occasions anything is said to lean more to the rt. I don't ask since it early on had shown itself to be a taboo subject. So, I have not lost friends, but it is only due to not 'exactly' knowing they don't share politics with me.

    I know the majority of my extended married family are Reps. We've had it out about it and their incessant political talk and need to have Fox news on often when I've been to their houses. Likely said it here before, but in desperation — because my 'conversion seemed so uppermost on their minds', I finally told them, if I come to a family gathering and the tv is on I will leave and if the tv is off and I'm there and the political talk starts I'm gathering up my food and I'm leaving.

    They tested me only once — and promised if I un-covered my food again and stayed they would be quiet. It has been yrs. since I've heard more than a minor quick peep out of them. In fact, two of dh's siblings have passed away — sadly, fairly young.

    Here's an even sadder thing. I'm not even sure about some of my family. I do think for a time a number of them (again it was something at the time I never asked) were Democrats, but I know some 'switched' and have re-registered -ugg. Went on a visit across the river to St. Louis and since the St. Louis cousin is Reps. some things (thankfully not too much) were said and now I know. They are family and they will always be, but I have to admit there is a wrinkle that didn't use to be there — a little place of pause. An odd interruption of feelings once so thoroughly wholesome has a little mar.

    So, I do feel like I will benefit from what others have to say and how they feel. It is hard to feel that you can't even totally commiserate with your own family because they might have voted for FG.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527

    Especially when anyone with 'brain cells' knows exactly why you are there — but heathen that you are, for you it works.

    Obvious you stand there feeling NOTHING !!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527

    I guess it so bugs me that people know what they are getting with FG, but they seem oddly incapable of extrapolating how it is going to get to them, as if it won't. In that area I just can't seem to make my brain function. I guess the same way that Pillow Guy, Rudy Guiliani, Sidney Powell, and others thought they could hob-nob with the so un-loyal user and remain in their fairly positive positions before their brush with evil incarnate.

    No one seems to get they now have one foot over the edge and FG could be the slipperiest slope they have ever been on. I can't see it going well, but what do I know.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527

    Did I put this in yesterday — is so pardon me. I just looked at it and wondered IF when we might get the opportunity again, if we are smart enough to once and for all to FIX the pig in the poke opportunities of misfits running for high office.

    Sadly, this misfit, even sicker and more dangerous now. I had no idea so many dumb people existed in the U.S. Perhaps, only thinking it was the hard-core MAGA mainly.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,138
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527

    Maybe part of the problem? Do they think if they 'vote' for him now they will be given a pass. Really people you will get your pass, and it will say DEPORTATION.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,138
  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,138

    Exactly…

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    betrayal Member Posts: 3,138

    He'll kill off the ones FG didn't

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,138

    So true.

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527

    So many people knew this and yet voted for him anyway. They just can't picture evil visiting with them. Many of us are somewhat invisible, but we do have some differences.

    1. As Reps. you don't seem to extrapolate very far out.
    2. As Democrats, we already did it four yrs. ago and we are highly in tune with loss, degradations, depletions, and many other things you think you are safe from because you voted for a demented felon.
    3. We may be depressed at what you do, but we know what happens to bugs that hit the grill of the car. You don't — yet. Welcome to the cold, hard grill that help you understand sad realities.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,138

    Happy Veteran's Day to all who served.

  • mom2bill
    mom2bill Member Posts: 8,084

    The start of many horrible picks for positions in T’s administration.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,138

    Ding, ding, ding, he met the criteria for all 9 of the diagnostics for narcissistic personality disorder but then we already knew that without it being spelled out. He told us himself by the behaviors he has displayed in the last 10 years.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,654

    I'm here. I just don't have anything to say right now. I am horrified & I know the worst is yet to come. My closest friends are on the same page as me, but I have family & friends of many years who I know voted for Trump. Our relationships aren't ones that center on politics, and are important enough to me to keep alive. But, I certainly don't feel like spending time with them right now, and going forward our relationships will be on a more superficial level.

  • ruthbru
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527

    💚 Anne Frank and John F. Kennedy. I so agree with each thought. I was listening to some Meidas Touch just now and lo and behold, a lot of trouble is already brewing about not only FG going back to the WH, but who was voting and why.

    He showed a younger looking woman likely a young homemaker who said something to the effect that she voted for Trump and was really happy about it, but then she cried from the upset of a whole lot of her close family not going to spend the holidays with her. That in fact seems to have turned up as a 'theme' in several families. He also mentioned a man who was already served divorced papers and his wife said she will not reconsider her decision to end the marriage now.

    There could be (and it is what was strongly indicated) many, many stories going on like this all over. I understand the upset. I put up with my bil's because our understanding is that if you spend ANY time at all with me, keep your mouth shut when it comes to politics. I'm a bit surprised that it took THIS election for these people to find their relatives voting for Trump, but at the same time likely because he is getting a second chance to desecrate us. Many could say they didn't "know" who he was before, but they do now and still voted the way they did.

    So, FG isn't anywhere near as yet being sworn in and sounds like the holidays have definitely been ruined for many families. Who can blame them. You really don't expect your own family to aid and abet a person who you KNOW darn well will be destructive to you and your loved ones. Frankly, I'm expecting things of this nature will only get worse. Also more 'situations' added.

    So regrets are laying very heavy in the air and we haven't even gotten to the part where all those great promises made are tossed in the nearest trash bin since they were never meant and a number weren't even possible since they were diametric of each other, but no one seemed to notice that.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527

    Don Jr. Taunts Zelenskyy On Social Media After His Father’s Win, And People Are Outraged 

    And people should be. You are definitely a boulder off of the old orange block. I don't wish you well at all in spite of the fact that I think you might desperately need it someday.

  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,340

    Jackie - my brother doesn't care what I think or believe. Or how it effects the entire family. He is going to steamroll his views anytime we communicate. SOOOO glad he lives in a different state and we don't talk often. I just have to delete all the Trump memes he emails to me. I won't be planning a trip to see him anytime soon. I'm sick enough about the election w/o listening to him.

    I do have some good friends who are trumpers (this is Texas after all) but they know if we are to stay friends they'd better not talk about politics - OR religion for that matter.

    Love the Anne Frank.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527

    Boy was he ever right in spades.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527
  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,527