I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • SerenitySTAT
    SerenitySTAT Member Posts: 3,534
    edited July 2020

    The David Hogg post is real, but technically, he didn't write it.

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  • SerenitySTAT
    SerenitySTAT Member Posts: 3,534
    edited July 2020

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  • SerenitySTAT
    SerenitySTAT Member Posts: 3,534
    edited July 2020

    These guys need to be in a timeout.

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    All Reps. ( very much especially the enablers ) need to be held accountable right along with Trump.

  • SerenitySTAT
    SerenitySTAT Member Posts: 3,534
    edited July 2020

    This is especially good. Watch for the Usual Suspects moment.


  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,258
    edited July 2020

    You gals just make my day begin happy, Hah! And I love Sarah Cooper.... I'm surprised he ..(meaning the pos in charge_ ) hasn't tried to lock her up! Go Sarah!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    The highest and best thing that people can conceive is a human life nobly and beautifully lived—therefore their loyalties and energies should be devoted to the arrangement of conditions which make this possible. The sole issue is how to make this world a place conducive to the living of a noble human life, and then to help people in every possible way to live such lives.
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    John H. Dietrich

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    Well, it sure does appear that Trump has himself in a big bucket of trouble and I think the desperation which always has a little apparency my word ) is seeping out by a boat load at a time now. When it seems to have to become part of your campaign to try and convince people that you have mind you are not doing well. The schemes on top of that that Bill Barr is coming up with just further the disaster. M. Cohen got such a HUGE gift ( not that he shouldn't watch p's and q's ) and it only took going back to the lock-up for a day or two. Whatever desire for is book was present ( plenty on my part ) is likely doubled.

    The Reps. party appears to be coping poorly as well. Nothing goes right and it is noteworthy in the news that they are in chaos and disagreement. MJ ( Donny Deutsch ) feels that while they may wait for labor Day, it seems there may be no way for Trump to gain the ground he would need to hope to win. Of course, there is massive cheating and suppression and I felt certain that would happen anyway.

    I just sit here wondering what Biden, Obama and others are putting together to handle a lot of that, if not almost all of it. I can't see anyone on our side just letting it all play out as sublimely as what happened in 2016. We were so foolish then, but how could anyone watch the Reps. and Trump and how they have operated the last 4 yrs. ( including Bill Barr being Trump's bully cheerleader ) and not know that big measures would have to survive and flourish to nullify the amt. of super dirty politics from the other side. They are desperate. What will it lead to. Wondering if Trump will go the whole way?


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    For now -- a beautiful picture. You go guys !!!


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    I'm Done With America

    July 24, 2020July 24, 2020 / John Pavlovitz


    Yesterday was a long year.

    I'd only been up for four hours, which was about the length of time I'd slept the night before, and already I'd been beaten relentlessly by a social media tsunami of anti-mask proselytizing, confederate statue worship—and a quick cut horror show of trending news stories about COVID parties, Costco white fragility, pandemic school re-openings, and inexplicable World Health Organization departures.

    I sat there transfixed to the small screen in my shaking hand, scrolling quickly to find something to get me unstuck and jump start my optimism enough to propel me into the day—but I was met with packed pools of virus-deniers, old friends broadcasting their racism, born-again Karens preaching hatred in Jesus' name, and slurs of black NASCAR drivers by extended family members.

    I could feel my heart rate rising and the acid in my stomach twisting my insides. My breathing became slow and sporadic.

    "To hell with it all," I finally said out loud, as if someone else could hear me.

    "I done with America."

    I threw the phone down and stormed into the kitchen to binge another few episodes of Ozark along with a large helping of my feelings, and began dreaming of waking up in another country, of once again feeling national pride, of no longer being embarrassed by the place I call home or the people who lead us.

    I started to covet my neighbor's nation.

    I am done with America.

    I'm done being represented by a needy, belligerent, barely literate mobster.
    I'm done with unrepentant racists and anti-science religious zealots.
    I'm done with confederate flags and Fox News and MAGA cultism.
    I'm done with a grotesque Frankenstein Christianity wildly stumbling around without Jesus' tender heart.
    I'm done living in a nation, nearly half of which wants it to be more white, less diverse, and less kind.

    I imagine I'm not alone in my American done-ness.

    I bet you've long since reached your saturation point for bad national news, been pushed well past your anxiety threshold, and you're wondering how much your already-taxed system can tolerate.

    People ask me every day how they can go on, where they can find hope, what the secret is to staying positive is in these days that seem to provide no respite from enmity—and I only have one answer:

    There is no other choice.

    For all but a select few of us, this is the place we're going to be for the duration, and this is the place we're going to need to defend and this is the place we're going to need to renovate with the capital of our lives.

    It's the place we're going to shout down the bigots,
    the place we're going to outnumber the close-minded,
    the place we're going to demand equity,
    the place we're going to tear down the flags and the statues and mindsets that perpetuate white supremacy,
    the place we're going to expand so that every hungry, exhausted, hurting soul finds rest,
    and the place we're going to lock arms and dig in our heals and push back the terrified bullies trying to drag us backward.

    This is my home, it's the place I've lived for half a century and poured my life and my gifts and my heart into, and I'd really rather not uproot my family and leave my friends and flee to places that feel less violent and less cruel and more welcoming—because that's what we're supposed to be.

    America has never been all that the songs declare we are, never approaching the kind of whitewashed, mythical greatness so many dream of returning to—but it's been a place where tired, poor, huddled masses yearned to reach and breathe in, because it was aspiring to be safe harbor for liberty in a tempest of inhumanity.

    And dammit, I'm going to spend myself to make sure it can become that.

    The racists are growing desperate. I think their violence is going to get worse. I think they feel the head winds of History blowing hard against them and they are going to make one more frantic, brutal, ugly assault on diversity and decency—and we'll have to be here to be the line that will not be moved.

    Yes, I'm done.

    I'm done with this America—and I'm ready to fight for a better one.

    Lock arms with me, friends.

    We have a stand to make.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    I'm Done With America

    July 24, 2020July 24, 2020 / John Pavlovitz

    Yesterday was a long year.

    I'd only been up for four hours, which was about the length of time I'd slept the night before, and already I'd been beaten relentlessly by a social media tsunami of anti-mask proselytizing, confederate statue worship—and a quick cut horror show of trending news stories about COVID parties, Costco white fragility, pandemic school re-openings, and inexplicable World Health Organization departures.

    I sat there transfixed to the small screen in my shaking hand, scrolling quickly to find something to get me unstuck and jump start my optimism enough to propel me into the day—but I was met with packed pools of virus-deniers, old friends broadcasting their racism, born-again Karens preaching hatred in Jesus' name, and slurs of black NASCAR drivers by extended family members.

    I could feel my heart rate rising and the acid in my stomach twisting my insides. My breathing became slow and sporadic.

    "To hell with it all," I finally said out loud, as if someone else could hear me.

    "I done with America."

    I threw the phone down and stormed into the kitchen to binge another few episodes of Ozark along with a large helping of my feelings, and began dreaming of waking up in another country, of once again feeling national pride, of no longer being embarrassed by the place I call home or the people who lead us.

    I started to covet my neighbor's nation.

    I am done with America.

    I'm done being represented by a needy, belligerent, barely literate mobster.
    I'm done with unrepentant racists and anti-science religious zealots.
    I'm done with confederate flags and Fox News and MAGA cultism.
    I'm done with a grotesque Frankenstein Christianity wildly stumbling around without Jesus' tender heart.
    I'm done living in a nation, nearly half of which wants it to be more white, less diverse, and less kind.

    I imagine I'm not alone in my American done-ness.

    I bet you've long since reached your saturation point for bad national news, been pushed well past your anxiety threshold, and you're wondering how much your already-taxed system can tolerate.

    People ask me every day how they can go on, where they can find hope, what the secret is to staying positive is in these days that seem to provide no respite from enmity—and I only have one answer:

    There is no other choice.

    For all but a select few of us, this is the place we're going to be for the duration, and this is the place we're going to need to defend and this is the place we're going to need to renovate with the capital of our lives.

    It's the place we're going to shout down the bigots,
    the place we're going to outnumber the close-minded,
    the place we're going to demand equity,
    the place we're going to tear down the flags and the statues and mindsets that perpetuate white supremacy,
    the place we're going to expand so that every hungry, exhausted, hurting soul finds rest,
    and the place we're going to lock arms and dig in our heals and push back the terrified bullies trying to drag us backward.

    This is my home, it's the place I've lived for half a century and poured my life and my gifts and my heart into, and I'd really rather not uproot my family and leave my friends and flee to places that feel less violent and less cruel and more welcoming—because that's what we're supposed to be.

    America has never been all that the songs declare we are, never approaching the kind of whitewashed, mythical greatness so many dream of returning to—but it's been a place where tired, poor, huddled masses yearned to reach and breathe in, because it was aspiring to be safe harbor for liberty in a tempest of inhumanity.

    And dammit, I'm going to spend myself to make sure it can become that.

    The racists are growing desperate. I think their violence is going to get worse. I think they feel the head winds of History blowing hard against them and they are going to make one more frantic, brutal, ugly assault on diversity and decency—and we'll have to be here to be the line that will not be moved.

    Yes, I'm done.

    I'm done with this America—and I'm ready to fight for a better one.

    Lock arms with me, friends.

    We have a stand to make.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited July 2020

    These are great and worth clicking the link. (A sampling below link)


    Twitter Users Critique Trump's Effort At Compassion — And It's Not Pretty

    The Never-Trump GOP group the Lincoln Project asked for responses, and folks came through

    https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5f1a0afbc5b6128e6823155f?test_ad=taboola_iframe_mw_news


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    If you read The DSMSH the above makes such sense. Trump has no feelings. He has emotional bursts of most of them are not too cool. The majority aimed at people he perceives as having wronged him in some way. It is a remarkable thing to meet an individual who has no ethics, conscience, or moral bindings of any kind. What the majority find normal and quite often comforting. We have all sorts of choices -- Trump has none. His only choice is how do I get for me. He is the only person in the world -- at least who counts. The rest of us are here just to bounce off of him. Sadly, a lot of the Reps. take that role far more seriously than they should.

    You would think a person so devoid could not rise to the level of wealth, comfort, luxury ( gold plated as Trump's may be ) but it is easier at times for them. Since they lack the moral and ethical codes, along with empathy and sympathy, nothing is impossible for them. Often stuns people into getting out of their way and not saying the very loud and often no's that should come. So stupid, heartless, completely un-caring people like Trump can rise to the top because they are empty shells, not bothered by damage to others. People want to believe what they see of Trump is possible for them -- well it isn't. Not if you have a conscience. The rest of us are doomed to feel and feel deeply. Trump definitely is lacking compassion -- along with almost everything else but gaudy trappings and this is the best he will ever be. This is the emptiest you can be and still live. He cannot have what mot others to -- he cannot care, he cannot feel, and he can never, ever know the moments and hours of pure joy and deep emotions the rest of us have. Damaged at an early age and there is no repair. He would be better at being a robot than the human he looks like. That does make him dangerous.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,621
    edited July 2020

    Jackie, I found the photo of every player and every coach from the Yankees and the Nationals taking a knee before the national anthem at the DC game to be very, very moving.


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    Just a picture of a person who thinks he has it going on.

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    Anybody here know who the radical left mob is. After reading this I support sending this one to Russia ( no return possible ) with a lg. portion of the rest of the family. Their dad can stay here in jail, alone forever.


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    Me neither.


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    Sums it up well.


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    One that needs a lot of thought.


    Image may contain: 2 people, text that says 'Tea Pain @TeaPainUSA Since the military won't do his biddin', Trump and William Barr are creatin' their own military to invade Democratic cities just before an election he can't win legally. There's a electoral coup happenin' right in front of our eyes. This is democracy's darkest hour. CALL TO ACTIVISM'

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    Image may contain: one or more people, text that says 'My favorite Bible story is probably the one where Jesus tells the lepers to get used to the idea that a lot of them are going to die, and then he goes on TV to brag about what a great job he's doing. @itsJelfTiedrich'

  • hikinglady
    hikinglady Member Posts: 625
    edited July 2020

    In Portland: Rubber bullets and tear gas + The First Amendment

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    Emily Rutter Hebbron

    8h

    Professor Maureen Healy is the chair of the history department at Lewis and Clark College. She teaches Modern European History, with a specialization in the history of Germany and Eastern Europe (and the rise of fascism). She was shot in the head by federal agents on Monday night and is recovering from the injury and the concussion, but shared a statement of her experience, and gave permission to share this.
    --
    Statement by Maureen Healy, July 22, 2020
    For Immediate Release

    Since June, I have been attending peaceful protests in Portland neighborhoods in support of Black Lives Matter. I have gone with family and friends.

    I am a 52-year-old mother. I am a history professor.

    I went downtown yesterday to express my opinion as a citizen of the United States, and as a resident of Portland. Of Oregon. This is my home. I was protesting peacefully. So why did federal troops shoot me in the head Monday night?

    I was in a large crowd of ordinary folks. Adults, teens, students. Moms and dads. It looked to me like a cross-section of the City. Black Lives Matter voices led the crowd on a peaceful march from the Justice Center past the murals at the Apple store. The marchers were singing songs. We were chanting. We were saying names of Black people that have been killed by police. We observed a moment of silence in front of the George Floyd mural.

    I wanted to, and will continue to, exercise my First Amendment right to speak. Federal troops have been sent to my city to extinguish these peaceful protests. I was not damaging federal property. I was in a crowd with at least a thousand other ordinary people. I was standing in a public space.

    In addition to being a Portland resident, I am also a historian. My field is Modern European History, with specialization in the history of Germany and Eastern Europe. I teach my students about the rise of fascism in Europe.

    By professional training and long years of teaching, I am knowledgeable about the historical slide by which seemingly vibrant democracies succumbed to authoritarian rule. Militarized federal troops are shooting indiscriminately into crowds of ordinary people in our country. We are on that slide.

    It dawned on me when I was in the ER, and had a chance to catch my breath (post tear gas): my government did this to me. My own government. I was not shot by a random person in the street. A federal law enforcement officer pulled a trigger that sent an impact munition into my head.

    After being hit I was assisted greatly by several volunteer medics. At least one of them was with Rosehip Medic Collective. To take shelter from the teargas I was hustled into a nearby van. Inside they bandaged my head and drove me several blocks away. From there my family took me to the ER. I am grateful for the assistance, skill, and incredibly kind care of these volunteer medics.

    We must take this back to Black Lives Matter. Police brutality against Black people is the real subject of these peaceful protests that have been happening in my city and across the country. What happened to me is nothing. It is nothing compared to what happens to Black citizens at the hands of law enforcement, mostly local police, every day. And that is why we have been marching. That is why I will continue to march.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    Hiking Lady -- what a epiphany. Prof. Healy confronting her own government shooting her for just being outside in a group. Who were in fact NOT actually casing trouble. I don't know what the future will bring. or how much effort will have to happen to quell those in our society who are willing to do things like the above to us -- but it desperately needs to be seriously dealt with and repaired as best can be. Un-believable and I know Trump has no REAL notion of some of these things he has set in motion -- the permissions he has continuously given to those people on the negative edge just awaiting opportunities. The one positive thing I guess I could say is that many of those are now identified. Still frightening.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,649
    edited July 2020

    I have stopped watching what passes for the "news" because it is so unsettling and a stressor. I have a lot of things going on in my life that cause stress and really cannot deal with more: repairs to my very damaged house, my health, etc. I read this page everyday (it wasn't available yesterday and not sure why) and find what is important and truthful. I read John Pavlovitz's and Professor Healy's postings with interest and agree with their stances.

    I also get some laughs from some of the postings but it is sad that we have been subjected to such treatment by a person who claims to be POTUS. He is a sociopath not unlike Hitler and Stalin and other oppressive leaders like Putin and Erdogan. We need to take America back to the path of democracy that my dad and many other noble men and women made sacrifices for our freedoms. I do not profess to know what this will take other than a massive push for voting in November and telling those that do not want to vote for Trump and also do not want to vote for Biden to stay home if they fully intend to waste their vote. Every vote counts and I do not want to see the popular vote not support the electoral vote as it did in 2016. He cheated and will continue to do so given the chance. His "tribe" of nepotism needs to go home to NYC or FL residences. If Junior and Eric are examples of today's leaders we are in trouble. Neither one of them appears to be educated though they claim academic credentials and their radicalism smacks of white supremacy. I am so done with this America.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 1,418
    edited July 2020

    I copied this from a post on Facebook. It's called "Walking with the Wind" by John Lewis. ---

    "About fifteen of us children were outside my aunt Seneva's house, playing in her dirt yard. The sky began clouding over, the wind started picking up, lightning flashed far off in the distance, and suddenly I wasn't thinking about playing anymore; I was terrified…

    Aunt Seneva was the only adult around, and as the sky blackened and the wind grew stronger, she herded us all inside.

    Her house was not the biggest place around, and it seemed even smaller with so many children squeezed inside. Small and surprisingly quiet. All of the shouting and laughter that had been going on earlier, outside, had stopped. The wind was howling now, and the house was starting to shake. We were scared. Even Aunt Seneva was scared.

    And then it got worse. Now the house was beginning to sway. The wood plank flooring beneath us began to bend. And then, a corner of the room started lifting up.

    I couldn't believe what I was seeing. None of us could. This storm was actually pulling the house toward the sky. With us inside it.

    That was when Aunt Seneva told us to clasp hands. Line up and hold hands, she said, and we did as we were told. Then she had us walk as a group toward the corner of the room that was rising. From the kitchen to the front of the house we walked, the wind screaming outside, sheets of rain beating on the tin roof. Then we walked back in the other direction, as another end of the house began to lift.

    And so it went, back and forth, fifteen children walking with the wind, holding that trembling house down with the weight of our small bodies.

    More than half a century has passed since that day, and it has struck me more than once over those many years that our society is not unlike the children in that house, rocked again and again by the winds of one storm or another, the walls around us seeming at times as if they might fly apart.

    It seemed that way in the 1960s, at the height of the civil rights movement, when America itself felt as if it might burst at the seams—so much tension, so many storms. But the people of conscience never left the house. They never ran away. They stayed, they came together and they did the best they could, clasping hands and moving toward the corner of the house that was the weakest.

    And then another corner would lift, and we would go there.

    And eventually, inevitably, the storm would settle, and the house would still stand.

    But we knew another storm would come, and we would have to do it all over again.

    And we did.

    And we still do, all of us. You and I.

    Children holding hands, walking with the wind. . . . "

    - John Lewis

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,805
    edited July 2020

    Lovely!

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    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,805
    edited July 2020

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  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 5,318
    edited July 2020

    Trump is supposed to throw out the first pitch at an upcoming Yankees game. By my screen name you may have surmised that as someone born and raised in the Bronx, I am a diehard Yankees fan. It should be noted that both the Yankees and Washington team members took a knee at the game where Fauci threw the first pitch. I imagine that if trump’s pitch is better than Fauci’s we may be hearing about it for some time 🤢. As a matter of fact I’m sure trump will declare, “They say it was the best ceremonial first pitch anyone ever threw.”

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited July 2020

    Who can forget Kent State.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 40,366
    edited July 2020

    I was off the computer much of yesterday, last night and this morning. Don't know what ther glitches were but now and then ( it didn't last long ) I could get through. Finally this afternoon ( some of the BC .Org techs were working as well ) I called a Microsoft tech who made some adjustments in my Int. Ex settings and things seem to be going well now.

    Anyway, the John Lewis piece broght tears to my eyes. Seems like sometimes storms bring out the best in us. I'm with Betrayal and all of you here. This present storm has been a long one and I think the signs have been around for awhile that it is going to be one heck of a rocky ( maybe quite ugly ) road before we see some resolution to what we are having now. I also think -- yes -- staying home if you are not going to REALLY vote is a must. We need overwhelming votes for Biden. I'll hang in there but so easy to get discouraged. These last 3 and 3/4ths. years have been awful, bewildering, and in some cases have shown me much of what I never thought I'd ever see out of our government. Hope is all I have and maybe some wind.