I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • nkb
    nkb Member Posts: 1,561
    edited November 2022

    I am hoping that the Dems realize how important state legislatures are so that they can control or get rid of the gerrymandering - as many pundits said every day an old republican voter dies and a young dem voter turns 18. the number of young (18-30) voters this midterm almost doubled and most went for Dems, esp Black voters and hispanic. apparently the 18-25 year olds have gotten very politically active with all the school shootings they have lived through.

    Yeah- they had voice mail recordings of Pence's SS left for their families- made me cry.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,617
    edited November 2022


    After the 'red wave' flop, we need new male political experts who are always wrong. I'm in.


    USA TODAY columnist Rex Huppke


    If you weren't paying attention to the men on television who get paid to be incorrect, you might have missed their supremely confident and wildly wrong predictions of GOP dominance in the midterms.

    As the dust settles, it's clear the key takeaway from the midterm elections is this: America's cable news networks need to clear out their stable of male pundits who are consistently wrong about everything and bring in some fresh male voices who will also be consistently wrong about everything.

    As someone who checks both boxes – male and regularly wrong – I humbly submit my application to fill this important role.

    If you weren't paying attention to the men on television who get paid large sums of money to be incorrect, you might have missed their incessant, supremely confident and wildly wrong predictions of a Republican "red wave" in the midterms.

    The wrongness of the pundits prior to Election Day was staggering

    ►On Oct. 27, Fox News host Jesse Watters told Geraldo Rivera the GOP would win the Senate and the House. Watters was so confident he bet Rivera $1,000. (Democrats kept the Senate and if the GOP does win the House, it will be by a narrow margin.)

    ►On Nov. 4, Fox News contributor Newt Gingrich predicted that Herschel Walker would win the Georgia senate race without a runoff (he didn't), that Mehmet Oz would win the Pennsylvania Senate race (he didn't) and that Blake Masters would win the Arizona Senate race (he didn't). Gingrich also guessed Republicans would wind up with a 44-seat advantage in the House, which we already know won't come close to happening.

    ►Sean Hannity responded to the predictions by saying: "You've never been wrong. You're almost always right."

    There are bad male prognosticators on TV, then there's CNN's Chris Cillizza

    The day before the election, Fox News host Pete Hegseth said: "This midterm election is the end of Joe Biden's political career. When the red wave comes, and it is coming, Joe Biden's political utility is over."

    Over on CNN, the most regularly wrong person of all time, Chris Cillizza, wrote columns with these headlines in the run-up to Nov. 8.

    On Nov. 3, in a piece on CNN's website, he wrote: "Biden's decision to use his bully pulpit – just days before the election! – to give a speech about democracy seems like a strategic blunder given what we know about the electorate and its priorities."

    Cillizza and all the rest of them were wrong about everything. And on Cillizza's last point, exit polls by the Associated Press found that 44% of voters said the future of democracy was their primary consideration for voting.

    There was no Republican red wave, but there was definitely a television pundit "wrong wave." And I want in on that.

    I am among the best at being wrong. Call me, networks

    For too long, my ability to be invariably wrong about things has gone unappreciated. It's clear from the money cable news networks are paying these other men that there's a market for erroneousness, and it's high time those networks brought in some fresh male voices that sound self-assured despite lengthy track records of speciousness.

    Here are just a few of my qualifications:

    • I predicted that "Morbius" starring Jared Leto would be one of the best Marvel movies of the year.
    • Since the beginning of the NFL season, I have incorrectly picked the winners of games more than 70% of the time, all while insisting I follow football "very closely" and "really have a good sense of the sport."
    • In 2016, I didn't believe Donald Trump would win the presidential race, and every month thereafter I have predicted that something he did or said "would be the end of him this time."
    • Prior to the midterm elections, I wrote about the risk posed by Republican election deniers who were on ballots across the country. That was a Cillizza-like wrong prediction that I'm very proud of.

    Why should I get the job? I'm a man, and I'm rarely right about anything

    It's with great and wholly unearned confidence that I say, without hesitation, that I'm the man for the job of being wildly incorrect on television.

    I'm male, and I'm wrong a lot. What other qualifications does one need?

  • miriandra
    miriandra Member Posts: 2,211
    edited November 2022

    Re: Kimberly Guilfoyle's transformation -

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited November 2022

    Well, I was really wrong -- the Loon filed to run and I'm awaiting his announcement. Don't necessarily look forward to listening to the misfit Loon. Hard to look at him too. Still I don't want snippets of his speech. That often leaves me with questions. I'm not going to enjoy a moment of it though.

    Divine -- too funny.

    I do think if anyone else remembers (although I may have read it in a book. Pence got advice from someone he respected a great deal who had retired from government. I can't recall who this was, but I do know this man said in so many words that there wasn't any way to do it -- that Pence had a ceremonial role and NOTHING more period. Sure wish I could recall who this was. I do know at the time that I knew who the person was fairly well. If I keep forgetting these things I may have to go and have a test.

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited November 2022

    So he did it. I’ve seen a few reports that when he announced, a group was ready to trigger the 14th amendment that says he CANT run. And they are ready for him. Not that he ever paid any attention to the Constitution anyway.

    I feel nauseous.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited November 2022

    Miriandra, I do recall incidents with her beloved, Jr.and Guilfoyle, when they chose to check out for a bit with a little white powder. really sad in a way when a person seemingly with a lot of acumen decides to go over to the wild side. Now she is just another slab of orange Trump do-do.

  • janett2014
    janett2014 Member Posts: 2,950
    edited November 2022

    illinoislady,

    Are you thinking of Dan Quayle?

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited November 2022

    janet, I looked him up since my feeling was that it was some VP or Attorneys General. Turns out that it likely was Quale. I probably wouldn't have been able to jog my memory without your input here. I was trying all sorts of questions on the Internet to no avail what-so-ever. Quale said:

    During their conversation, Quayle said Pence had no wiggle room and told him to certify the election results. "Mike, you have no flexibility on this. None. Zero. Forget it. Put it away," Quayle told him.

    When I read those words, especially the Put it away line I realized it then had to be Quayle. In further conversation Pence mentioned something going on in Arizona. That was the first state chosen for a recount which I think turned up more votes for Biden. In any case, I think Pence didn't realize Quale lived in AZ. Quayle said to Pence that he lived there and there was nothing going on.

    Thanks for helping me out.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited November 2022

    Tonight, Lawrence O'Donnell had a lot to say about the Loon's big announcement. Said no one, ever in our political history has ever announced basically 2 yrs. in advance. Lawrence also said that apparently Trump still thinks running for office will give him the privilege of not having to go through indictments, or trials. I guess Trump gets ideas and some of them can't be budged or nudged away.

    We may be lucky if he runs because I just don't think the votes will be there. He may though be able to run out other candidates. My guess is he and DeSantis will attempt to strongly take the other apart. Maybe some of those who have thoughts of trying again like Ted Cruz may decide they don't want to be lambasted again by Trump.

    ETA: Forgot to say, watch out for fireworks on Thanksgiving Day. Peace now might easily get disturbed.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,617
    edited November 2022

    Well at least he didn’t get too much coverage last night, aside from Fox and CNN. I blame broadcast networks for aiding and abetting Trump’s rise to demonic power in their bloodthirsty race to make as much money off of all stories about him as they possibly could, at the expense of our democracy. This article says one Trump spokesperson said it was censorship not airing his announcement. What garbage. Our country wants to move on from his divisive outdated pukefest shitshow.



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    When Donald Trump announced on Tuesday night that he will mount another run for the White House — a rare case of a former president seeking his old job — the country's three major broadcast networks opted not to carry his speech live.

    ABC, NBC and CBS all decided to stick with previously scheduled entertainment programming — reality show "Bachelor in Paradise" on ABC, science fiction drama "La Brea" on NBC and a fictionalized show about the FBI on CBS.

    On cable, Fox News Channel aired most of the speech live while CNN carried the first 25 minutes before switching back to a panel discussion after Trump formally announced his 2024 candidacy. MSNBC, however, chose not to air the speech, choosing instead to stick with Alex Wagner's 9 p.m. show.

    Fox's decision to carry the speech is notable considering that several network commentators expressed a clear on-air preference last week for Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to take over as the Republican 2024 standard-bearer after the party's disappointing showing in the midterm elections. Two other properties in Rupert Murdoch's media empire, the New York Post and The Wall Street Journal, also signaled last week a preference for DeSantis, with the Post declaring him "DeFUTURE" on the tabloid's cover and the Journal's editorial board declaring that "Trump Is the Republican Party's Biggest Loser."

    During the 2016 presidential race, CNN was frequently criticized for giving ample airtime to Trump's speeches. The network's new chief, Chris Licht, told employees on Tuesday that coverage decisions about Trump as a candidate would be made on a case-by-case basis.

    While ABC, NBC and CBS did not preempt prime time programming to air the speech, the networks all had correspondents stationed at Mar-a-Lago who reported on the announcement earlier in the evening during the nightly newscasts hosted by David Muir, Lester Holt and Norah O'Donnell.

    Liz Harrington, a spokeswoman for Trump, told the conservative channel Real America's Voice earlier in the evening that such a decision amounted to censorship. "They don't want the American people to hear directly from the biggest leader of the greatest political movement in our history, so I do suspect they will try to censor and cut away," she said.

    Fox host Sean Hannity, who informally advised the former president during his White House years, said on his prime time show Tuesday that Trump was "laying down a marker" by announcing his 2024 campaign so early. "I'm watching this president at this hour and I'm seeing a guy that looks like he is dead-on focused," the host told viewers.

    Fox News host Pete Hegseth declared during a break in live coverage that Trump was "in as good a form as you have ever seen him," while former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee called the speech "pitch-perfect" and Trump unbeatable "if he keeps on like this tonight."

    On CNN, two former Trump aides harshly criticized the speech. Mick Mulvaney, former director of the Office of Management and Budget, called him "the only Republican who could lose" in 2024, while former communications director Alyssa Farah Griffin said Trump is "wholly unfit to ever be in office again."

    Yet neither Fox nor CNN carried the entire speech. As Trump was discussing what he called the "tremendous problem" of transgender athletes, CNN anchor Anderson Cooper had pivoted to coverage of a missile that killed two people in Poland.

    Fox also cut away, and by the time Trump's speech concluded, after a little more than an hour, 10 p.m. host Laura Ingraham was instead getting commentary from Hoover Institution fellow Victor Davis Hanson.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,617
    edited November 2022

    P.S. Saw a headline that Ivanka skipped the announcement saying she doesn't plan to be involved in politics.


  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,617
    edited November 2022

    I did not read the article but was happy to see this headline on USA Today FB page.

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  • cardplayer
    cardplayer Member Posts: 2,051
    edited November 2022

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  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited November 2022

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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
    edited November 2022

    I wonder if they are getting tired of 'so much winning'?

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  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,617
    edited November 2022

    I wonder if it’s pay back for Trump. Does he think the Republicans could have done more for him to overturn election results? I know he lives to cause chaos and destruction. If he has to do it by trying to taking down the Republicans, he will. I wonder which ones in office now will kiss his ass.

    Any average person still contributing to his cause might as well stick a wad of cash in an incinerator. Why would they even bother? What a waste.


  • cardplayer
    cardplayer Member Posts: 2,051
    edited November 2022

    NY Post Page 26 Florida Man Makes Announcement (I wish) Happy

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  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,617
    edited November 2022

    Haha! Love it, Ruth!


    Here’s an excerpt from Heather Cox Richardson’s newsletter:

    November 15, 2022 (Tuesday).

    After filing the paperwork earlier today, former president Donald Trump announced a run for the 2024 presidency tonight in a speech from Mar-a-Lago before an audience that included a number of far-right social media influencers, his wife Melania, and family members Eric, Lara, and Barron Trump and Jared Kushner, but, so far as I can tell, no members of the Republican Party leadership. Trump's daughter Ivanka, who was a key advisor in the Trump White House, was not there, and said tonight she does "not plan to be involved in politics."

    The speech was a subdued version of his rallies, claiming he is a victim and offering a replay of his inaugural address, which focused on what he called "American carnage." Tonight he warned "our country is in a horrible state, we're in grave trouble" and said he was leading "a great movement" to take the country back. Compared with the midterms crowds yelling for their candidate, the lack of enthusiasm in the room seemed marked, and after about an hour, while Trump was ranting about former German chancellor Angela Merkel, the Fox News Channel cut the live feed.

    Domenico Montanaro of NPR indicated that Trump might not enjoy the same uncritical coverage he received in 2016 when he began his story on the announcement: "Donald Trump, who tried to overthrow the results of the 2020 presidential election and inspired a deadly riot at the Capitol in a desperate attempt to keep himself in power, announced he is running again for president in 2024."

    According to Mark Sweney of The Guardian, after the Republicans' poor showing on Tuesday, in which the high-profile candidates Trump backed lost, media mogul Rupert Murdoch has told Trump that he will not support Trump's 2024 candidacy and will instead back Florida governor Ron DeSantis should he decide to run. If Murdoch follows through, this means Trump will lose the backing of the New York Post, the Wall Street Journal, and the Fox News Channel.

    The party's losses in the midterms appear to have opened the door for Trump's opponents to toss him under the bus. According to Jonathan Swan at Axios, at this morning's annual meeting of the Republican governors, former New Jersey governor Chris Christie got "huge applause" from the room full of hundreds of politicians, consultants, and wealthy donors when he blamed Trump for three cycles of losses for the Republican Party. Christie said voters "rejected crazy."

    Trump has likely announced his candidacy so early either to try to stop DeSantis from announcing and attracting Trump's voters, or to try to avoid indictments, or both.

  • pingpong1953
    pingpong1953 Member Posts: 277
    edited November 2022

    Divine, I agree. They should send their money to me!

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited November 2022

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    At his big speech last night

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,709
    edited November 2022

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited November 2022

    Our workaday lives are filled with opportunities to bless
    others. The power of a single glance or an encouraging
    smile must never be underestimated.

    G. Richard Rieger

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited November 2022

    Interesting, the Loon's speech when he was about 2/3ths. into it, turned into his whining rant that he is sort of famous for. Cardplayer, I also laughed at the piece you put in where Mar-a-lago became his resort and classified documents library. spookie, I also read where some people were trying to leave the SPEECH and were not allowed to leave. He is apparently still trying to have more of everything including attendees. Afterall, he had more attendees at his swearing in than anyone ever had. Shawn Spicer knows it well since he was recruited immediately to set the record straight, and that started Shawn Spicer on to job of " Dancing With The Stars ". I think he might have been the first one to be used abused and suffer a big reputation downfall by getting too close. It was never a safe thing to do where Trump is concerned because you might even get yourself killed.

    I really still can't see him actually go totally through with all of this. George Conway said that he is doing it because of his vengefulness and to avoid the lawsuits. I also think he would not be able to take the loss of losing AGGAIN.

    I am wondering what will happen to his followers if he is ignored by big money, backing, and the possible loss of those who became heavy with support on the Reps. side of our government. While some are always going to worship the creep, some may see a little light about things, especially if they are reminded that he keeps losing lots of contests.

    It is all interesting but here we go again with that maniacal loser possibly taking up blocks of daily time in everyone's life again. Very un-happy with that. I do hope the media comes to their senses.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
    edited November 2022

    Omg -- I really did think I was going to end up on the floor with paroxysms of near hysterical laughter. This is so trumpy.

    May be a Twitter screenshot of 1 person, riding on a horse, standing, footwear and text that says 'Middle Age Riot @middleageriot Every time Donald Trump opens his drool-spattered lie hole, poor approximations of human speech fly like shrapnel from a shit grenade.'

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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    May be a Twitter screenshot of 1 person and text that says 'Ben Wexler @mrbenwexler So we fired him, he stole a ton of sensitive shit on the way out of the office, we caught him... and now he's re- applying for the job? 9:00 PM Nov 15, 2022 9,635 Retweets 513 Quote Tweets 49.4K Likes'

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    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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    May be an image of 1 person and text that says 'Kumail Nanjiani @kumailn He's just so stupid. He's so breathtakingly stupid that the above statement is all it takes for every person reading this to know exactly who I'm talking about.'

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    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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    May be an image of 1 person, standing and text that says 'If you think we should deport the MAGAts and their tantrum king to Whogivesafuckastan, you are my people. AMERICAN NEWSX'

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    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,835
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    May be a Twitter screenshot of 1 person and text that says '"2016: Trump cheated and won. 2020: Trump cheated and lost." -Morgan Freeman CALL TO ACTIVISM'