I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Trill, that was very funnyHappy and did sound just like Trump. Loved the Mike Angelo too. As far as Trump -- I think today ( not that it has anything much to do with Labor Day ) I am just grateful about the number of people who have good sense. We get depressed at the number of Kool-Aid drinkers knowing they are scary and focus on that. Just sets up a lot of worry. Worry can be productive too and I hope that it is helping get people registered to vote and help Biden all they can.

    Sad as Chevy says that we are all so divided. We do need someone who can start the process of getting us a bit back together. If we get Biden in ( good chance ) it will be interesting to see how things really do go at that point. We desperately need Mitch McConnell out.

    Trump is going to cause as much destruction as he can. What a way to end a failed four yrs.

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited September 2020

    First thing that came to mind with the holster mask: “You’ll shoot your face off, kid!”


  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited September 2020

    The Atlantic's editor-in-chief says his story about Trump calling vets 'losers' is just the beginning

    New York (CNN Business) — Jeffrey Goldberg, editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, said his magazine's story about Trump calling Americans who died in battle "losers" and "suckers," was just the tip of the iceberg.

    "I would fully expect more reporting to come out about this and more confirmation and new pieces of information in the coming days and weeks," Goldberg told CNN's Chief Media Correspondent Brian Stelter on "Reliable Sources" Sunday. "We have a responsibility and we're going to do it regardless of what he says."

    The magazine received backlash -- from Trump and many others -- for attributing the information to four anonymous sources. CNN has confirmed several aspects of The Atlantic's reporting, also with sources who chose to remain anonymous.

    But Goldberg said that's how the media is able to do its job of uncovering stories that take place behind closed doors.

    "We all have to use anonymous sources, especially in a climate where the president of the United States tries to actively intimidate," Goldberg said of his editorial decision to cite nameless people. "These are not people who are anonymous to me."

    Carl Bernstein, the investigate reporter known for breaking the Watergate story that took down President Richard Nixon, told Stelter on Reliable Sources Sunday that anonymous sourcing is often a crucial tool for reporters.

    "Almost all 200 of our stories about Watergate were based on anonymous sourcing," he said. Bernstein added that during the Trump era, "reporting is almost uniformly based on anonymous sourcing in part because that's the only way we can get to the truth."

    When it comes to the current presidency, Bernstein said, "We have to recognize that almost everything we know about the truth of Donald Trump and his presidency comes from reporting," adding, "The fake news is the president's news," and journalists are "doing the real reporting."

    On Sunday, Trump fired back at The Atlantic, directly attacking its majority owner, Laurene Powell Jobs.

    "Steve Jobs would not be happy that his wife is wasting money he left her on a failing Radical Left Magazine that is run by a con man (Goldberg) and spews FAKE NEWS & HATE," Trump tweeted. "Call her, write her, let her know how you feel!!!"

    Goldberg shot back at Trump, saying that the magazine will continue to report on his administration.

    "We're not going to be intimidated by the President of the United States. We're going to do our jobs," Goldberg said

  • divinemrsm
    divinemrsm Member Posts: 6,614
    edited September 2020

    In the above article, Trump's patriarchy is showing big time when he says, “Steve Jobs would not be happy..." about how his wife is spending “the money he left her...." on a radical left magazine.

    Welp, Steve dead. But Trump thinks Laurene Jobs need to be good little girl and do what she thinks will make dead husband happy. Don't work like that, Donald! She is free, free indeed, to spend her money as she sees fit. Of course, that’s giving Trump the fits.

    I so despise how THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES admonishes people to attack others who do not agree with him. WHY would anyone want a president to be like that?


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Divine, I saw that article and thought I had read it. I did have a feeling that the story was NOT going to go away -- but it didn't come from reading that article which I did not. Glad you put it in. It is a strange thing that so many people think it is just ducky to have all agree with ( burp ) Trump. That is so unrealistic. There is little to be learned ( in fact Trump just doesn't /isn't happy with your knowing much of anything), when everyone thinks alike. It is discourse in different opinions and about just who in the heck wants to be a Trump clone.

    There is a lot as yet I'm sure in lots of categories to come to light where Trump is concerned. He is excellent at chaos and I have to say I do wonder if there is truly anyone who has/knows right now all the pieces of Trump. Of course, right now, most people would be satisfied with just find out enough to successfully oust him from the WH. We need to know enough to keep such a hideous thing from ever having a re-play though. So, I do hope a huge amt. of blanks in time will be filled out. That might also curtail the rest of the family a good deal.

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited September 2020

    Honestly, I was wondering how any serviceman or servicewoman or veteran could support tRump and then I found this. Made me feel a lot better.

    Jason Kander: Why do the troops support President Trump, you ask? They don't


    "Why are the troops for President Donald Trump?"

    People are constantly asking me this question, and for four years, I've been answering it the same way: "The military leans slightly toward the conservative side, but so would any American workplace in which only 1 in 5 employees is a woman and the workforce is drawn heavily from the South and Midwest."

    But from now on, I can just say, "They don't," because the latest Military Times poll has former Vice President Joe Biden leading Trump among military voters, and it's not difficult to brainstorm a litany of possible reasons why.

    Trump refuses to defend America from Russian attacks on our democracy, or to confront Russian President Vladimir Putin about the price he has placed on the heads of American service members. Biden has a record of standing up to America's adversaries and enemies, as well as marshaling the help and support of our allies.

    Biden has reflected honestly on his initial support of the Iraq War, calling it a mistake, and demonstrating that he's learned from it. Trump, on the other hand, supported the war until it turned out to be a disaster, at which time he pretended to have been against it all along. Having learned nothing from Iraq, Trump took us to the brink of all-out war with Iran simply because he wanted to appear tough.

    As U.S. senator, Biden worked tirelessly to secure funding for heavily armored vehicles in Iraq and Afghanistan and state-of-the art prostheses at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. Trump recently ordered the military to assist in using chemical agents on peaceful protesters so that he could take a picture in front of a church while holding an upside-down Bible.

    Trump uses the military as a prop in parades and as a captive audience for overtly political speeches. When not in front of a camera, he reportedly refers to America's war dead as "suckers" and "losers." Biden once showed me a card he carries in his pocket with updated military casualty numbers.

    Trump has lied about how many visits he has made to welcome home fallen service members at Dover Air Force Base. He launched political attacks on Gold Star parents and claimed our military no longer fights to win.

    In March, when Dr. Jill Biden joined me on a tour of Veterans Community Project here in Kansas City, she correctly referred to the Bidens as a military family, a reference to the late Beau Biden's deployment to Iraq with the U.S. Army. That really means something, by the way. Not since the Eisenhowers has America had a first family who knows what it's like to hug a child one final time before they head off to war.

    Trump once characterized combat veterans not stricken with post-traumatic stress as "strong" and those who do suffer from post-traumatic stress as the ones who "can't handle it." When I went public in 2018 with my own PTS struggle, Biden immediately issued a public statement calling my decision "brave" — but he also called and texted me multiple times that day.

    This all brings me to the real reason our troops prefer Biden to Trump, because, in reality, it's much simpler than the indictment I've laid out above. In the military, leadership is more than just a buzzword. It's at the foundation of everything we do, which is why that same Military Times poll reported roughly 3 out of every 5 military officers to have a "poor view" of the president.

    Our troops — no matter how deep their ancestral Republican roots may be back home — know bad leadership when they see it, and they see it plainly in Donald Trump. In Joe Biden, they see a steady leader who has confronted challenges in his life more difficult than elections, and — even if they don't always agree with his politics — that's something they can respect.

    So no, the military doesn't support Trump's campaign. The troops are hoping we relieve their commander in chief and give them one worth following.

    Jason Kander is a veteran of the Afghanistan War and former Missouri Secretary of State. He hosts the weekly political podcast Majority54.


    https://www.kansascity.com/opinion/readers-opinion...

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,307
    edited September 2020

    I am hoping Steve Job's widow tells trump that the money he thinks was left to her by her "husband" is actually her money and she can spend it as she sees fit. I do not know the financial arrangement they had in their marriage but can say we have "our" money in ours since we both worked and contributed to our savings, etc. I have an ongoing battle with companies that do not want to list me jointly on their bills, etc. now but most certainly will know my name if something were to happen to my husband. Are you listening Comcast?

    I am sure he browbeat Melania into lying about his "losers" and suckers" comments. She knows who her bank roll is and will do everything she can to maintain that prenup.

    It is appalling that he is trying to enlist others to attack her for what he deems unacceptable behavior in his eyes. He is a control freak and likes his women submissive. Just look at who he has married.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Glennie -- great piece. Made me think about a couple of people I've talked to that did the ' I don't want to vote for Trump' but Biden crapola. I really wanted to say -- must be a major pain to you that your guy BOMBED so badly. Well, I have no problem with a Republican who wants to stay a Reps. even though it is hard to envision. I just can't figure totally why they have to justify a write in just so they can say they are still stalwart Reps. They know that they are voting for Trump.

    I am still reading " Melania and Me " and maybe I will feel definite by the end of the book but somewhere along the way I've felt like Melania likes to have things the way they are. She likes that no one quite knows what to make of her. She likes to be cloaked in some mystery. She doesn't just blurt it all out like Daffy Don. I think both she and Trump had dysfunctional families and in that way make a great match. I hope they all ( Melania included ) end in in the hoosegow, but if Orangeguy and Jr. are the only ones ( along with the loss of funds totally ) I could live with that. I worry about the last child ( taller than Trump now even in lifts, I think ) but it sounds like between the parents I'm not sure how well he ill come out of things either. Just doesn't sound like much of an enviable life. How strange to see the whole family as the real losers which is how I see them.

  • shellshine
    shellshine Member Posts: 930
    edited September 2020

    My best friend of 40 years and I love each other like sisters. She plans to vote for Trump again. We both treasure our friendship and strongly agree not to discuss politics. She is the only Trumper in my orbit and it works, so go figure! In a way I think it enlightens each of us.

  • trill1943
    trill1943 Member Posts: 1,135
    edited September 2020

    Glennie---Face mask holsters....Hmmmm....what could possibly go wrong? Well, he could blow his chin off. That would be a start.

  • trill1943
    trill1943 Member Posts: 1,135
    edited September 2020

    Shellshine, I have a friend who's also a Trumper....but not a very vocal one...guess cause she lives surrounded by Dems.....yards plastered with Biden signs.......so she knows to be quiet.....think she has a screw loose in some part of her brain.....I totally don't understand her in this regard..... I've heard so often that they like him because he "tells it like it is" but they credit entirely too much the "tell" part and not the "it" part. The "it" is what bothers me!

  • shellshine
    shellshine Member Posts: 930
    edited September 2020

    I connected with a grade school friend on Facebook recently and unfriended her as soon as I saw what kinds of political posts she attracted.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,701
    edited September 2020

    I joined a fun Facebook group of people who grew up in the same small town as me (and we only discuss memories of our old town on that site). Several have requested to be my Facebook friends, but I check on their feed before I accept their request. If they are Trumpsters, I decline. I know for sure that I would not like them in any context other than being from the same town, and they would not like me either.

  • shellshine
    shellshine Member Posts: 930
    edited September 2020

    Hi Spookie!! Thank you all for the welcome greetings.

  • di2012
    di2012 Member Posts: 871
    edited September 2020

    Hi Shellshine!......... it has been way too long since you been on......I missed you......are you still working?

    Hugs,

    DI


  • di2012
    di2012 Member Posts: 871
    edited September 2020

    SHELLS, I was on a cruise when last in Hawaii, and on Oahu on Thanksgiving. ....we had cruised from Tahiti, Moorea, Boro Boro, on to 3 islands in Hawaii, then on to LA

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,701
    edited September 2020

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Trump Declares Himself The Most Innocent Man To Be President Ever

    At a Labor Day press conference, Trump declared himself to be the most innocent and honorable man ever to be president.

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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,701
    edited September 2020

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    I have people who don't really talk politics and I suspect are Reps. Then there is my family -- too many of them drowned in the Trump Kool-Aid. I still associate with all of them, but there is a rule -- don't talk politics because that will end the visit we are having. I'm not sure what their excuses are since Trump has been a rather transparent creature to say the least. It amazes me that anyone would willingly let on that they agree with much of anything that he does. I still recall the person I grew up with ending a note with MAGA at the end. These people are not dumb by any stretch and some are still in the military.

    It would be difficult and was a time or two when I didn't agree with Pres. Obama -- but the thing is even when I didn't agree I saw that he handled things with tact, towards the world audience,understanding, and a good political diplomacy. In the end, he did way more to suit me than the other way around. I'm sure complete sentences helped a lot plus not bad-mouthing those who didn't boot-lick. He was just smooth and even and un-ruffled. So, how "Trump people can look anyone in the eye with their whiney, lying, weak person who mainly plays golf and tries to get air-time ALL the time often mystifies me. Why he isn't as much an embarrassment to them ( probably because he isn't smart enough to be embarrassed himself ) as he is to all of us just floors me. Any time he speaks I'd have my eye on whatever hole was large enough for me to drop into.


  • illinoislady
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  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited September 2020

    Hard to pay attention to a dog when you are on the golf course🐕🦺🦮🐩

  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,408
    edited September 2020

    I have a dear friend who lives in an exurb SW of Joliet. Her late DH was a rock-ribbed libertarian, refusing to ally with any political party (and had some, uh, interesting, ideas about income tax laws--namely that it was unconstitutional despite it being an actual amendment). She had triple-neg DCIS in 2016, and after her bilateral mastectomy her surgeon told her she was essentially "cured" (no rads, no chemo, no endocrine therapy). So as a result, she decided this was a sign that she should live her life to the fullest and not concern herself with politics or even the news. Therefore, she had no idea until I told her last fall at Bob's birthday party what Trump had been doing. I've not seen her since New Year's Eve, before the pandemic, but I suspect she's an anti-masker: she spends a lot of time hanging out with her friends from her old neighborhood who moved to the other side of her subdivision. They're retired CPD, so they're probably Repubs or at least conservatives (and no fans of minorities). Unsurprisingly, her exurb is Trump country. (Last time I visited in June 2019, we took her car to go out to the local diner/sports bar, lest my Clinton/Kaine bumper sticker get my car--a "Commie liberal" Subaru--keyed).

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited September 2020

    OH, the pouting child pictures!! There is a family-famous pic of me at age 4, pouting in the backyard next to a large bush. Arms crossed, head down, and I'm MAD. At what,, who knows?? LOL!! tRump's crossed arms posture does totally remind me of that.


    And that meme of the dog thanking Jesus, that tRump doesn't have time to own a dog! Perfect!!

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited September 2020

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    Hey Chevy!! Support this person!!!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,258
    edited September 2020

    Hey Spookie! MAN it's cold here! 37 degrees & snowing! It was 92 yesterday, and I am just DONE with this Summer heat! Got a little heater on in the living room... Hah!

    And okay, YES! I would support any human who clearly sees, and will fight against what Trump has done to this country. I don't understand it all, but I just feel like attaching oneself to any party is accepting that party's nomination... no questions asked. So that is why I really can't understand why it is sooooo important to go along with the crowds, and vote for who and what their party stands for...

    Seems like something is wrong with this system.... Same with I don't understand the reasoning behind the electoral college... what good it does... Why can't people just nominate and vote for .... PEOPLE??? The most respected, honest, qualified candidates would be allowed to compete against each other! And then what if the runner-up was VP???

    People shouldn't feel like they have to follow their party's choice... because they will choose and follow that person's whims ... no matter what. Just like what is going on now. So many excuses you hear from the reps! And they excuse him.

    So are there enough lame-brain people to try & put their hopes on ANYone running for President? Like Kanye West, Kim Kardashian, or even Ted Nugent? With all his NRA backing? All it takes is MONEY and enough followers for the party you choose to attach yourself to! It seems like all you HAVE to have is a lot of money, and power and popularity.

    Something is wrong with this whole system! I mean a LOT of things are wrong... We should just rethink this, and start all over. So there's my 2 cents for the day.... Love you guys!


  • JCSLibrarian
    JCSLibrarian Member Posts: 548
    edited September 2020

    I watched Trump’s press conference yesterday. He says so many exaggerations that my head was spinning. Plus, he kept spitting! He got really angry a couple of times at various reporter questions. I am the lone liberal in my family. My Mother used to ask me what she had done wrong to make me into one. LOL! I am reading a really good book about the criminalization of poverty. Thousands of people are in jails and prisons because they could not pay the outrageous fines and fees attached to non lethal/social crimes. Many counties and cities raised these fines and fees when the tax base disappeared in 2008. This activity hurts those already in poverty. All part of the systemic racism in our country. One more reason to be aware of what is going on in your local community and not just a federal election.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    True success is bringing joy to yourself and to others.
    Success is measured in lives bettered, not in money or power.
    - Jonathan Lockwood Huie