I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 4,833
    edited September 2020

    Oh yes, Spooks,, I knew she would too.

    it is disgraceful that he says these things about our service men and women, and our wounded and dead veterans. I do not understand how any veteran can vote for him.

  • trishyla
    trishyla Member Posts: 698
    edited September 2020

    I love Tammy Duckworth. I was rooting for her to get the VP nod from Biden. There is such a directness to her. She would have had them shaking in their boots, just by virtue of who she is. Trump is already losing the military vote by a very small margin. Tammy would have turned that into a landslide.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Morning Joe was adamant about the horror of Trump but did so quietly without the raving statements that often have come from Joe. I thought it was a 'decision' made before air time -- denounce soundly, but with some decorum. I think many now are going to let the orange man rave and rant and carry on in frenetic fashion and others will just be the calm, measured voice of reason. Biden has been behaving that way and I do think it paints quite a picture and comparison.

    At any rate it sounds from what little news I was able to see just now that a lot of denials are coming out of Trump. He also seems to have some people lined up to try to give some basis to his denials. They can say what they will. Trump has a long record of having shown great disrespect for military people and or families. These events are on tape and available, so Trump can deny and line up all sorts of people eager to help him set the record straight. The fact is he has disparaged, lied, used and abused military people along with anyone who disagrees. Even to the point of allowing Putin to get away with having a bounty on our soldiers heads. He is not taking care of our service people or much of anyone else but himself.

    I would imagine Tammy Duckworth would be livid. I haven't looked or heard of her making a comment -- not yet anyway, but if she did, I'd be looking to see if Trump was still standing. I do think many in the military are wising up. Unfortunately, I think many of the military people could be at least a partial, if not more, fan of Fox News. I know in my own family where there are military people as well as at least one Lt. Col. that I served with when we both started out as Pvt's., ( Privates ). She and they seem to be Fox News viewers. I do think those military ( retired or active ) are harder to reach. I find it sad that people like Trump can say and do the things he has and they seem to see something great enough in the situation to dismiss these things. I am not sure they will ever quite some to their senses as even when Trump is gone ( no matter how it happens ) voted out, too full of dementia, or what they will still be watching Fox and a whole new line will come out to keep them hooked. Still, at that, I do think there are way more military noticing what it happening.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    This is an ad so I'm putting in a disclaimer. I'm also putting it in because I found out a slight been more information by reading it. I also should say that I've taken Mother Jones magazine, but need to renew and I've not gotten around to it. So this is just for the content of perhaps your learning something you might now have known.


    Mother Jones Daily Newsletter

    September 4, 2020

    Last night, the Atlantic published a bombshell story that confirmed many of the things we have suspected and known all along about Trump:

    In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers."

    ...According to sources with knowledge of the president's views, he seems to genuinely not understand why Americans treat former prisoners of war with respect.

    This was not the first time Trump has disrespected the Americans who have fought for their country, and it probably won't be the last. But it was hard to read. How the hell did we get here?

    Today, Trump attacked the Atlantic in a tweet: "The Atlantic Magazine is dying," the president wrote, "like most magazines, so they make up a fake story in order to gain some relevance."

    "Story already refuted," he lied. (Indeed, far from refuted, it has been corroborated by the Associated Press and the Washington Post.) "But this is what we are up against," Trump's tweet continued. "Just like the Fake Dossier. You fight and and (sic) fight, and then people realize it was a total fraud!"

    We're not mentioned by name in his tweet explicitly, but he is talking about us. Mother Jones' David Corn broke the story of the dossier before the 2016 election.

    Trump has spent his entire life manipulating the media to his own ends (hello, John Barron). Just this week it came out that Trump's ham-fisted administration is trying to shut down Stars and Stripes, the paper of the US Armed Forces.

    Journalists who don't kowtow to Trump inevitably end up in his sights. That's why so many reporters cave and pander to him. It's also why it's important to support the media organizations that don't back down.

    If there's one bit of truth in Trump's tweet, it's this: Many magazines are dying. Trump thinks that's good! It's good for him as far as he's concerned. I'm sure his personal prospects are better served by just having to answer questions to Fox and OANN. But the country isn't served by it. So I'm gonna say this thing now that's earnest and direct and somewhat embarrassingly vulnerable: Help us.

    Too many of my friends have been laid off in the past few years. Too many of the writers and editors I look up to have been put out of a job in the past few years.

    One of my favorite lines of poetry is from the late Hayden Carruth's wonderful Chicago ode, Scrambled Eggs & Whiskey. "Here we are now in the White Tower, leaning on one another, too tired to go home."

    The election is two months away. It's been a long four years. And here we are now, leaning on one another, too tired to go home.

    Subscribe to the Atlantic! And subscribe to Mother Jones! And say nice things to your neighbors! And pluck an apple from a tree and take your time enjoying it!

    And then—and then let's go home.

    Ben Dreyfuss

    I am concerned about people losing their jobs because they don't kowtow to Donald Trump. Hard sometimes to get the whole truth if you might lose your job. We so need to be back in the days when what needed to be said, could be. Often said -- people like Trump could not exist if they were handled like they should be -- from the first moment on. Of course, too late right now for this political cycle but one can think about how to make things like this much better. Again, I'm not selling anything but somewhere along the way I did miss that Trump admin is trying to do away with the STARS and STRIPES news. I may have heard something and forgot to go back -- but it was new to me today.

  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,408
    edited September 2020

    FOX is confirming the reporting in the Atlantic article. Another aide who accompanied Cadet BoneSpurs said that the latter mused out loud that he couldn't understand why the U.S. joined the Allies in WWII. (He was born after the war, of course--but ol' Fred was definitely a Hitler and Mussolini supporter, which explains the copy of Mein Kampf on the Presidential nightstand).

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited September 2020

    This was put in the pentagon budget to be cut, last year. It hasn’t been approved, yet. But orange man got wind of it and ran with it. Last publication date to be end of September. There is hope this won’t happen. And it was WW1, he didn’t understand why we sided with the Allies. Well, that word alone should explain a lot. He’s pissed off a lot of Marines with that one. Good

  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited September 2020

    Just saw on Palmer report liar caved, says funding will not be cut.

  • BlueGirlRedState
    BlueGirlRedState Member Posts: 900
    edited September 2020

    All this energy needs to be put forward to embrace leadership that is intelligent, kind, tolerant, listens, honest, .... everything that is lacking today. I wrote letters to people in swing states identified as likely left leaning, but might not always vote or even be registered to vote. The letter did not endorse anyone, but encouraged them to register and vote, provided links on how to register in their state and get absentee ballots. I am thinking of volunteering to work at polling stations since they might be short staffed. There are several local elections that need to be voted on. National elections do not really matter in my state in terms of outcomes, but are still important to register sentiment. Below are links to organizations trying to get the vote out as well as information on how to register on line in your state / get absentee ballots

    https://www.nass.org/can-I-vote

    https://www.consumerreports.org/voting/guide-to-voting-during-the-pandemic/

    https://www.bluewavepostcards.org/

    https://votefwd.org/

    https://www.mobilize.us/joebiden/event/270820/?sou...

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,701
    edited September 2020

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  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,701
    edited September 2020

    (CNN)President Donald Trump likes to think of himself as a tough guy. He likes other tough guys. Masks, in the President's world, are not the sort of thing a tough guy wears.

    "But did you ever see a man that likes a mask as much as him," Trump asked a campaign rally crowd in Pennsylvania on Thursday of former Vice President Joe Biden. "And then he makes a speech, and he always has it — not always, but a lot of times, he has it hanging down. Because, you know what, it gives him a feeling of security. If I were a psychiatrist — right? I'd say, this guy's got some big issues. Hanging down."

    HA HA HA. Man did he zing Biden! That wimp wears a mask! What a rube!

    Oh wait. Actually, wearing a mask is one of our best defenses against Covid-19, a virus that has killed more than 186,000 Americans and is projected to kill more than 400,000 by the end of this year.

    Don't believe me? How about Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention? "We are not defenseless against Covid-19," he wrote in July. "Cloth face coverings are one of the most powerful weapons we have to slow and stop the spread of the virus -- particularly when used universally within a community setting. All Americans have a responsibility to protect themselves, their families, and their communities."

    And yet, despite occasional flirtations with mask-wearing over the past month -- the President of the United States not only refuses to consistently wear a mask in public but also mocks his Democratic opponent -- and reporters -- for doing so.

    At a May Rose Garden news conference, Trump said this of the Democratic nominee: "Joe Biden can wear a mask, but he was standing outside with his wife, perfect conditions, perfect weather. ... And so I thought it was very unusual that he had one on. But I thought that was fine. I wasn't criticizing at all. Why would I ever do a thing like that?""

    In that same presser, Trump asked a reporter to take off his mask so he could be heard. The reporter said he could talk louder instead to which the President responded: "Oh OK, you want to be politically correct."

    That back-and-forth came days after Trump retweeted a tweet by Fox News' Brit Hume that appeared to mock Biden for his appearance while wearing a black mask during a wreath-laying ceremony.

    And it all followed on months and months of Trump raising questions about the necessity and efficacy of mask-wearing even as doctors and infectious disease experts became more and more convinced that something as simple as wearing a mask significantly slowed the rate of transmission for Covid-19.

    "I don't think I'm going to be doing it," Trump said of wearing a mask in the April press conference in which he announced the new CDC guidelines making clear people should wear masks when social distancing was not an option. "Wearing a face mask as I greet presidents, prime ministers, dictators, kings, queens -- I just don't see it."

    On a trip to a Ford plant in May, Trump said that he wore a mask away from reporters and cameras, but took it off because he "didn't want to give the press the pleasure of seeing it."

    The conflation of mask-wearing with manliness -- albeit a twisted sense of what it means to be a man or to be tough -- by the President has had clear consequences.

    An NBC News-SurveyMonkey poll in late July showed that 86% of Democrats and 71% of independents said they wear masks every time they go out in public while less than half (48%) of Republicans said the same. A Pew poll from late June produced very similar results. Almost two-thirds of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents said that masks should always be worn while just 29% of Republicans and Republican leaners said the same.

    Given those data points, it's no wonder that many Trump supporters simply don't believe in them. "I don't believe in the mask, that's all," Tony Germaine, a Trump supporter at the Pennsylvania rally on Thursday, told BuzzFeed. "I don't care, I just don't believe in it. Because I don't understand what good it's really going to do, unless you're in a high-risk area like a nursing home or a hospital. I think the left is playing the mask thing to the hilt all the way to the election. In my opinion, they're trying to steal the election."

    And it's also no wonder, as The Washington Post's Philip Bump noted on Thursday, that 7 in 10 new coronavirus cases are in states Trump won in 2016.

    The continued politicization of mask-wearing by President Trump is, in a word, unforgivable. Masks didn't have to be political. This is a matter of public health not partisanship. In his continued attempts to equate mask-wearing with wimpiness (and Democrats), what Trump is doing, in a very real sense, is encouraging his most ardent supporters to engage in behaviors that make them more likely to contract the coronavirus. A virus, I will remind you, that is projected to kill more than 400,000 Americans by the end of this year.

    CNN's Allison Gordon contributed to this report.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,701
    edited September 2020

    President Donald J. Trump told reporters yesterday that he "called home" to Melania Trump at the time and told her how upset he was for not being able to visit the cemetery. Facts First: Melania Trump was on the same trip with the President and was scheduled to attend the cemetery visit. She was not in the US.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,307
    edited September 2020

    If the Repugnants are willing to accept the consequences of not wearing a mask and "dying for their POTUS", I am all in favor of their continuing to do so. Less of his base to vote for him though I am not sure he has made that connection yet, nor ever. The deplorables in PA that will vote for him leave me aghast. They cannot see that that they have lost more than they have gained under his guise of leadership and that while they are happy in the here and now fail to see what a dismal, bleak future they are leaving for their children and grandchildren.

    If he were truly a tough man, as he purports to be, he would not be "Cadet Bone Spurs" as Sandy so aptly called him. He would have fought in Vietnam, not denigrated John McCain nor anyone else who either was a POW, MIA or died for the US in any war. He is a pitiful excuse for a human being and has much in common with any soulless drug lord, despot or serial killer. He has killed over 180,00 on his watch alone from Covid, how many children or adults have died due to massacres at schools, churches or synagogues due to failure to have gun control or regulation of guns capable of causing mass destruction. No one needs an AK- 15 (or the latest configuration), Mach 10, etc for either self-protection and/or hunting. If any of these were used for hunting you'd end up with lead poisoning from the meat if it was even edible.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

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    Blue Girl / Red State and Betrayal. Love your latest entries. Both outstanding.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 47,701
    edited September 2020

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Ready for a little levity -- warning -- I had to pick myself up.


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Just a bit of an observation here. The story held. All day long we heard about the suckers and losers. I think the Trump camp was super freaked. All the denials and they came from Trump as well as others. In the end though, even Trump's major cheerleader Fox News had to throw him under the bus. I'd clap for them but like many on that side -- they know when to CMA and they have no qualms about it. They are in business and if there is anything that might drag them down they scurry to get rid of it. I did hear that some time back. If Trump isn't selling ( that would be huge chance to lose 2020 ) Fox will move away. I think Trump had a few lighter warnings and this is a much bigger one.

    I am wondering how long the latest story sticks to Trump. In his frantic desperation I also wonder what will come next. We still have two months to go, but while a couple of numbers for Trump have improved -- I think that was expected. The thing is Biden's numbers have not changed. So, Trump has messed everything he has tried. I hope we can keep it up.

  • betrayal
    betrayal Member Posts: 3,307
    edited September 2020

    ROFLMAO for the above memes. Add the Goya Gas Guy to the My Pillow Guy as well. Isn't the N. Korea guy dt's BFF? Wonder if he also passed the dementia test and that's what qualifies him to be the autocrat for N. Korea. Then we have the he-man from Russia who feels showing off his bare chest (needs a breast lift but then I am probably being petty) makes him more desirable. Meanwhile he is bare-chested and his entourage has heavy coats on, so what does that tell you about his score on the dementia test? Does anyone remember the translation of LSMFT and I am not talking about cigarettes. The jingle tune filters through my brain every time I see bare-chested Putin.

    Remember the old adage that the size of the hand could be equated to the size of a guy's penis? Well, given the size of dt's hands, mini strokes would do it. Loved that one.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Free will is not the liberty to do what one likes, but the power of doing whatever one sees ought to be done, even in the very face of otherwise overwhelming impulses. There lies freedom indeed.
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  • trill1943
    trill1943 Member Posts: 1,135
    edited September 2020

    Posted by Jill Wine-Banks......


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    trill1943 Member Posts: 1,135
    edited September 2020

    Our Glorious Leader inspires me so much I have to sit down....I'm overcome....


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  • spookiesmom
    spookiesmom Member Posts: 8,178
    edited September 2020

    What nobody seems to remember is there was this thing called the Draft. They had no choice, because they didn't have a rich daddy to buy their way out. They are not suckers and losers. Oh he infuriates me.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Biden has been kicking a** and taking names -- and I hope he just keeps it up. Along with the continuation of calling out Trump as in " Who does he think he is "?


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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

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    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

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