I say YES. YOU say NO....Numero Tre! Enjoy!

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  • minustwo
    minustwo Member Posts: 13,357
    edited September 2020

    Chevy - nice to see you. Yeah - get it on. Oh those dancin days. Thanks PupMom. We needed that on Friday.

    BTW - I have a big poster of your tag line over my desk. LIFE IF WHAT HAPPENS WHILE YOU'RE MAKING OTHER PLANS.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 1,032
    edited September 2020

    Thanks MinusTwo. And ain't it the truth!

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Mouthful big time:

    Image may contain: text that says 'Middle Age Riot @middleageriot Donald Trump: "I don't want to cause a panic." Donald Trump: "JOE BIDEN WANTS TO USE YOUR NEIGHBOR'S HOUSE FOR A METH LAB AND LOW COST HOUSING FOR BLACK BLACK BLACK PEOPLE!"'


  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    I've always liked this guy. He is one of the smartest men I know

    Image may contain: 1 person, meme and hat, text that says 'If you think Antifa is starting fires on the west coast so they can blame Climate Change to push the Green New Deal... YOU MUST BE A SPECIAL KIND OF STUPID'

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    About the conversation a day or so ago. I left a note on a friend's meme -- and I still can't remember what it actually was, but told her it would be kind rather than just dropping in a meme ( since so many are being put out by conspiracy type beings ) if she could verify the contents. I expected to hear nothing or even be dropped off her FB sends list.

    So low and behold she told me she would find it and share it. Since it was a conspiracy type meme I'll have to get the run-down on it for her. Still, I'm doubting she will seriously changer her mind about things. She delights in finding what the right get ( very much like the left ) and gleefully sharing with her co-horts who chortle along with her or use the red faced icon if they are disgusted. Sigh !!! Not sure what they would do if she was not leading them on.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    It is so different now from how good things actually were when the Oval Ofc. was turned over to Trump in a wonderful transition. We won't see it this time. Still, this meme makes he think -- just how many people out there are actually going to vote for Biden. Going to be a couple of months and we will surely have to wait a bit after election day.

    Still, if much of the country easily envisions this when they think of THIS election, then there is good hope that there is more than we think.


    Image may contain: 1 person, text that says 'Amy Siskind Our country is sick, unemployed, starving, being evicted, dying alone, and on fire. Gee, who wouldn't want another 4 years of this! 2:11 PM Sep 10, 2020 VS'

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Image may contain: 2 people, text that says 'Roshan Rinaldi @Roshan_Rinaldi Trump is openly pouting and doing that awful crossed-armed thing,... at 9/11 ceremonies in PA. He clearly hates it, wishes he was someplace else and doesn't understand why it isn't all about him.'

    and his stringy-haired wife doesn't look too thrilled either. What a pr. I've started to think of them as made for each other.


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  • ruthbru
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  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Good for you Joe Biden. It I s a solemn day and I appreciate that you will spend it that way.



  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Trump Claims That Joe Biden Is On Performance Enhancing Drugs

    In an interview that will air on Fox News on Saturday, Trump claimed that Joe Biden is on performance-enhancing drugs.

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    Coming from an Adderall addict -- that's rich.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Image may contain: 1 person, text that says 'Jeff Tiedrich @itsJeffTiedrich America 2020, where the president's racism gets pushed out of the news by the president's disrespect for the troops, which gets pushed out of the news by the president's rape victim, which gets pushed out of the news by the president's indifference to the deaths of thousands'

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Trill -- forgot to mention I loved the meme about Trump taking the Russian vaccine. I had that thought a number of times when I heard that Putin had one ( a vaccine ) on the way.

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    Image may contain: 8 people, crowd, text that says 'DETERINS KEEP AMERICA GREAT VETERANS IGR રo UM He DIDN'T JUST DOWNPLAY THE VIRUS He held big rallies and mocked people for social distancing and wearing masks, knowing Americans would die He called it a Democratice hoax OCCUPY DEMOCRATS'

    And so you are getting rid of how many of your possible voters???

  • illinoislady
    illinoislady Member Posts: 39,770
    edited September 2020

    I think this has been around for a bit but it is still GOOD.


    Image may contain: 2 people, text that says '"Enter Donald Trump, two-bit conman, television huckster, a denizen of gaudy casinos and smoke-filled back rooms, who conned himself into the biggest job of all. He is our guide to a new realm you won't find on any map: a world of his own creation, where words like truth' and lie no longer have meaning, where man's darkest instincts are given license, and where things like human decency and tolerance are relics of a bygone day. Case in point: Mr. Donald Trump, a man with one foot in his mouth and the other... in the Twilight Zone."'

  • chisandy
    chisandy Member Posts: 11,408
    edited September 2020

    And now it turns out that the fund a bipartisan Congress appropriated to compensate and provide treatment for 9/11 first responders who developed cancer as a result of breathing in debris particles...is being drained by the Trump Administration...with no explanation as to where it's being spent. (The one thing we do know is that there is very little evidence of it reaching the first responders or their health care providers).

  • trill1943
    trill1943 Member Posts: 1,135
    edited September 2020

    INTERESTING READING FROM THE SPECTATOR......


    WAS THE 'PEE TAPE' A LIE ALL ALONG?

    Not necessarily: despite what his critics say, Christopher Steele's 'dossier' has not been 'discredited'

    Today, 9:10am

    Was the 'pee tape' a lie all along?

    Donald Trump (Photo: Getty)

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    Sir Anthony Eden's wife, Clarissa, famously said that at times she'd felt as if the Suez Canal was flowing through her drawing room. Over the past four years, perhaps American voters have felt the Volga lapping at their feet. There's been no escape from Russia and even the Mueller inquiry did not put the matter to rest. Before Mueller's inquiry a year ago, the headlines were about whether President Trump had conspired – or 'colluded' – with the Kremlin; the news now is all about Trump's revenge for what he calls a conspiracy 'bigger than Watergate'. This Russia conspiracy has the intelligence agencies cooking up a fake story about collusion in order to investigate Trump and overturn the result of the presidential election. In Trumpworld, this all began with a phoney 'dossier' from a former British spy.

    So expect to hear about Christopher Steele all the way to the US presidential election in November. Trump's biggest cheerleader in the Senate, Lindsey Graham, has published a declassified summary of the FBI's interview with the most important contributor to Steele's dossier. This was his 'primary sub-source' who collected information from several other sources. Graham said the summary showed 'how unsubstantiated and unreliable the Steele dossier was'. Steele's main source wasn't 'some well-connected… Russian official' but a researcher paid by him to go to Moscow and who got 'second and third-hand information and rumour at best'. Even then, Graham said, this source 'did not know where some of the information attributed to him… came from'. It didn't take long for the internet to figure out that the 'primary sub-source' was a Russian analyst at the Brookings Institution in Washington DC, Igor – or Iggy – Danchenko.

    Danchenko had been arrested for public drunkenness, according to a court filing. Or as one pro-Trump website put it, he was a Russian national whose past included personal baggage. But this is being either prissy or disingenuous. An intelligence source with 'personal baggage'?! 'I am shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here' (as the police chief in Casablanca says while closing down Bogart's casino). It is also unfair to Danchenko, who was a gifted researcher. His boss at Brookings, Fiona Hill, says in her biography of Vladimir Putin that Danchenko 'gained notoriety' as the only person to get hold of Putin's doctoral thesis, finding that large parts had been plagiarised from a University of Pittsburgh textbook. Steele likes to show friends the page from Hill's book where she writes about 'Igor's remarkable ability to locate sources and material that other researchers considered totally inaccessible'. Did Steele put things in the dossier that Danchenko never said? The inspector general at the Department of Justice, Michael Horowitz, made that accusation when he released his report into 'Crossfire Hurricane', the FBI's collusion inquiry. But he later published a correction: Danchenko had told the FBI he 'couldn't recall' saying some things to Steele, rather than denying he'd said them – an important distinction.

    Steele's friends say he felt burned by Horowitz, having spent several days being interviewed in London for his report. I'm told he thinks Horowitz had to 'throw some red meat' to Trump and the attorney general, Bill Barr, picking out the most damaging things Danchenko had to say about the dossier. It's true that Steele did not speak to anyone in Moscow himself and, as any journalist knows, a story's reliability may have a short half-life as it is passes along a chain. But then, many of the people quoted by Steele would not have spoken at all if they'd known these were not private conversations. That may be true of the dossier's most infamous allegation, strongly denied by Donald Trump. This is the story that the Kremlin has a tape of Trump watching prostitutes urinate on the bed in his suite at the Ritz-Carlton hotel in Moscow.

    I happened to be one of the first journalists to hear this story. In October 2016, I was in Washington DC and getting strange reports that the FBI was investigating the Trump campaign. I asked one contact what he thought and he came over to the BBC bureau, where I was working. It was lunchtime and we took tuna sandwiches to an unused studio to eat and talk privately. A sheaf of papers was produced from a black briefcase. 'I don't know what you'd even be able to do with this…' My informant trailed off. There were a dozen pages from what would later be called 'the dossier', the most consequential piece of opposition research in American political history. I blinked at certain phrases that jumped out: 'Trump's personal obsessions and sexual perversions'; 'defiling the bed'; 'employing a number of prostitutes'; 'golden showers'.

    The page in my hand said this story came from 'Source D', a 'close associate of Trump who had organized and managed his recent trips to Moscow'. Source D had 'been present' for Trump's 'perverted conduct' in Moscow, if not actually a witness to it. The identity of Source D was later reported to be Sergei Millian, a Belarusian-American businessman who, among other things, sold condos for Trump to rich Russians. Once the dossier detonated publicly – put online by Buzzfeed – Millian ran for cover, telling Russian TV he didn't have any 'compromising information' on Trump. He denied being a source for the dossier at all. That wasn't surprising but Steele must have had a sickening feeling as Danchenko did the same. He told the FBI he'd never even met 'Source D', Millian. He'd tried to meet him but it hadn't worked out. An unidentified Russian who might have been Millian had rung up but, even then, this anonymous source didn't say anything damaging about Trump.

    If that is true, then Lindsey Graham is right: the dossier is a bad joke, invention masquerading as 'intelligence'. But I'm told that in 2016 Danchenko gave Steele accounts of three meetings with Millian, as they happened, at restaurants in Washington DC, New York and Charleston. Steele called Danchenko his 'head agent' in the field. There was back and forth between them about these meetings. A lot of details were given afterwards. Either Danchenko was producing Pulitzer-prize-winning fiction for Steele or he later felt he had to be extremely careful with what he told the FBI. Steele's supporters believe this is what happened. You can certainly imagine Danchenko's state of mind, a Russian in the United States, terrified of being arrested and deported, trying to downplay his role in finding dirt on America's new president. Time and again, he 'could not recall' something quoted in the dossier.

    Either Danchenko was producing Pulitzer-prize-winning fiction or he felt he had to be extremely careful with what he told the FBI

    Steele has five other sources for the 'golden showers' story. One is the hotel manager, another a maid. Neither had first-hand information, the manager agreed it might have happened, the maid relayed gossip among the housekeeping staff. One is 'an American' who supposedly saw a row in the hotel reception about whether a group of prostitutes could go up to Trump's suite. This American is not Keith Schiller, Trump's bodyguard, who told a Congressional committee he had 'stopped' five prostitutes from trying to visit Trump. Another source was a friend of Danchenko, described as a Russian with a 'wide social network', who said the story was common knowledge around the Kremlin. Finally, there was another Danchenko contact, a 'former senior intelligence officer now a Kremlin official'. This was later said to be no less than a former head of Russia's foreign intelligence services. This source did not talk specifically about the 'pee tape' but, Danchenko told Steele, he said they had sexual kompromat on Trump going back years. 'We've got him over a barrel.'

    Since then, I'm told that Steele has had 'new reporting' about another Trump sexual encounter in the Ritz Carlton: just one woman this time, it's claimed, allegedly there the evening after the supposed bevy of urinating hookers. Like many other journalists, I have tried to get at the truth of the 'pee tape' story. I found three sources, all claiming to have seen a Trump sex tape. One is a former US intelligence officer, who said a senior official in eastern Europe had shown him stills from 'one of the tapes'. The second source is in one of Russia's most feared mafia groups, who said they were the ones who had filmed Trump. He said the gang's leader joked about Trump to Putin: 'I gave you that putuch' – Russian criminal slang for the 'bottom' in prison sex. The third is a former colonel in Russia's intelligence services. He described the Kremlin elite gathering in a villa outside Moscow to watch the 'pee tape', tears of laughter streaking their faces. 'That is our candidate for President of the United States!'

    These different sources might be saying the same thing because the story is true – or because of a clever disinformation campaign by the Kremlin. Danchenko's old boss at Brookings, Fiona Hill, told a Congressional committee that Steele had been 'played' by the Russians. I'm told that he now believes we may never know the exact details of what happened behind the closed doors of Trump's suite at the Ritz Carlton. But he is apparently convinced that the Russians have sexual kompromat of some kind on Trump, enough to blackmail him. Steele had '20 to 30' sources for the dossier and in two decades as a professional intelligence officer he had never seen such complete agreement by such a wide range of sources. He thinks it impossible the Kremlin could get so many people to lie so convincingly. He tells his friends and supporters that the dossier was a 'damn good' piece of intelligence work that will be vindicated.

    Steele was first to warn that Russia was mounting a covert operation to elect Donald Trump. Fusion GPS – his partners in Washington DC – have called this the dossier's 'foundational initial assertion' and it was correct. Much later, the Mueller inquiry would state that 'the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome.' Steele wrote about what was happening as early as June 2016, his investigation costing a grand total of $169,000 (£130,000). The US intelligence agencies – annual budget, $63 billion (£48 billion) – did not publish their findings until December 2016, too late to prevent the effort to influence the election.

    Steele has issued similar warnings about Britain. He told the inquiry on Russia by the Parliamentary Intelligence and Security Committee that the Kremlin had tried to interfere in the Brexit referendum. He said there had been disagreements within the Russian government about this, the effort stopping and starting according to who was winning the argument. I'm told this was based on information from Steele's confidential sources and is part of a classified appendix to the Committee's report. But the rest of his submission is public and can be found on his company's website. It's worth reading in full.

    Steele writes that the Kremlin has 'an obsession' with the UK. 'Putin and his cronies have a love-hate relationship with Britain. They firmly believe that if they can bully, embarrass and humiliate the UK, this will cow others in Europe and elsewhere to tolerate, and in some cases further, their corrupt and amoral agenda.' This agenda consists largely consists of measures to allow a 'corrupt political elite… to protect its ill-gotten gains' but also – as he said in the Trump dossier – to divide and weaken the West. He believes that Russia has become a 'powerful rogue state' with a growing appetite for 'asymmetric warfare: hacking, fake news, infrastructure attacks and the corruption of national politics through dirty money'. He says: 'The failure of the West… to deter the regime has allowed this to happen.' If so, little has changed since 2016, when Steele wrote his dossier.

    WRITTEN BYPaul Wood

  • trill1943
    trill1943 Member Posts: 1,135
    edited September 2020

    Jackie, I heard about that Russian vaccine too.....can't trust it! Tastes like.....a neurotoxin!!

    I thought the combo pix of Trump/ Putin----was weird. it sure gave me the total creeps!!

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