Topic: Treating estrogen responsive cancer naturally

Aug 28, 2020 05:34AM GoKale4320 wrote:

https://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/wp-content/uploads...

This link is the transcript of an interview that Chris Wark did with Dr Joel Fuhrman about nutrition and boosting immunity. The actual video can be seen on Chris Wark's web page, ChrisBeatCancer.com

Sep 4, 2020 03:45PM BlueGirlRedState wrote:

I've read that melatonin might reduce estrogen as well as increasing the effectiveness of drugs that affect estrogen. This study listed/described many studies, concluding that it should be studied. You might want to track down the specific studies that are cited. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6017232/

Sep 5, 2020 05:46AM booboo1 wrote:

Thanks all. I did contact her, and she was very helpful. I appreciate all of your responses. God bless.

Nov 22, 2020 02:24AM - edited Nov 22, 2020 02:24AM by Aseye

I am wondering if anyone knows anyone premenoposal with high Er with lots of nodes involved and just went natural with no reoccurrence

Nov 22, 2020 07:04AM MelissaDallas wrote:

Aseye, anyone who would encourage a premenopausal woman with IIIB cancer and 20/21 positive nodes who is at such extremely high risk of recurrence and especially metastatic disease does not have their best interest at heart, or is extremely unschooled and ignorant as to the consequences of ignoring best medical practices

Nov 23, 2020 05:04AM dtad wrote:

Aseye...I never took an aromatase inhibitor. Ive been trying to lower my estrogen levels naturally since my diagnosis almost 6 years ago. I lost 30 pounds, try to exercise daily and take several supplements. So far so good!

Jan 3, 2021 02:05AM PebblesV wrote:

Aseye - there is a thread for stage 2 with lymph node involvement here that maybe you can ask the question to:

https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/145/topics/743397?page=75#idx_2232

As for me, I did the surgery (lumpectomy) to remove the lump, followed by radiation since I had 2 positive nodes, and am also on tamoxifen. I chose a middle path - while I said yes to some treatment, I also said no to some (said no to a full axillary node dissection due to the high risk of lymphedema for example, and luckily had a low enough Oncotype score where I did not need chemo).

I’m 2.5 years out so currently in the feeling fine but still anxious stage. Hopefully one day we can all come back here as success stories

Feb 9, 2021 11:12AM PAKNC wrote:

I have not necessarily given up on medications but I stopped Tamoxifen in late December after six months because I turned pre-diabetic quickly and my provider suspected that I may be a non-responder due to my DCIS progression during that time (I'm currently planning surgery and was in a clinical trial for active monitoring). I don't want to take AI's for various reasons.

Since I stopped Tamoxifen, I decided to start BreastDefend a month ago, which has DIM and other ingredients that I believe are natural aromatase inhibitors. I have noticed that the shoulder pain I had on Tamoxifen, which was minor but definitely worsened a bit (I had some stiffness before starting it), has really flared up on BreastDefend. I am starting to think, well, maybe this means it's working? I have heard general comments re: Tamoxifen that if you have no symptoms, it may not be working much for you. I didn't have any bad side effects other than turning insulin resistant.

Has anyone else experienced joint pain on DIM or other natural aromatase inhibitors?

Feb 16, 2021 10:28AM PAKNC wrote:

@Jinx27

No provider told me to take it, I opted to take it while waiting for surgery. I will ask an oncologist about it when I have that appointment in the next month. I am currently on nothing as I wait for surgery. My shoulder joint pain has gone down since I stopped it. Not sure if it's the DIM or not. My biggest concern first is to address the pre diabetes that Tamoxifen caused and get my blood sugar / triglycerides under control. I am not willing to start another medication until I have this fixed through dietary changes, increased exercise, etc. Then, I can entertain either a natural supplement or try an AI for six months to see what it does to my metabolic syndrome. Right now, I'm not willing to take a medication if it makes me diabetic in return. My nutritionist recommended Broccoprotect, it's also less expensive than BreastDefend. Broccoprotect is supposed to reduce the "bad estrogen." I can't eat cruciferous vegetables due to a food sensitivity. Again, recognizing that none of these natural supplements are likely going to be as powerful as a drug, they may be an option for some women.

Feb 24, 2021 11:56AM - edited Feb 24, 2021 12:16PM by GoKale4320

Hi Purple 32- I buy most of my vitamins from LifeExtension.com They ship quickly.

I have also gotten a lot of information from NutritionFacts.org

The China Study- by Colin Campbell

Elyn Jacobs website: ElynJacobs.com has a ton of information on nutrition, particularly about estrogen metabolism and natural alternatives to Tamoxifen or Aromatase Inhibitors. She is not a doctor, though.

Feb 26, 2021 10:48AM - edited Feb 26, 2021 10:53AM by GoKale4320

Purple - I guess I misunderstood your comment. I thought you asked where people buy vitamins. I just added some resources for further reading.

From the information I have read, I have made many changes in my lifestyle that are holistic not pharmaceutical.

Take care!

Feb 27, 2021 05:25AM dtad wrote:

meink7...so sorry I didn't see your post sooner. I take Breast Defend, melatonin, mushroom extract and baby aspirin. Hope this helps!

Feb 28, 2021 05:51AM dtad wrote:

happycook...sent you a PM too!

Feb 28, 2021 09:34AM BlueGirlRedState wrote:

dtad - BreastDefend. Looks like it could help. NIH has post how it seems to boost Tamoxifen. I wonder if it would help with AIs. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/artic... . My DR reluctant to talk much about suppements, since often not well studied and could interfere with an "approved" drug. . But AIs block, and I guess Tamoxifen interferes with production of ER. I use a lot of tumeric in foods, and take GAIA supplement. Eat lots of mushrooms.

Mar 1, 2021 08:21AM MelissaDallas wrote:

Actually, it is just the opposite BlueGirlRedState. Tamoxifen keeps circulatingestrogen from binding to the estrogen receptors and AIs block production/synthesis of estrogen.